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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 8, 2013 20:03:15 GMT -4
Okay. Well, after reading through, here is what I think. I want to believe JamesV is town. I really do. But his mis-lynch on Speede and the bickering with Reb & Envi, though Envi I'm unsure if she is town. Reb said he promised to be active, which looks to me is a promise he is keeping. James, you are a hell of a Mafia player. But in my opinion, you, along with a few others, are looking at the wrong people. James, you said it yourself that we need to "Think outside the box." Just because Rebel is active one game when he is known not to be, he is scum. By your reasoning James, me being inactive ONE game when I'm known to be active makes me scum unconditionally. You went from Speede, to Envi, and now Rebel. Not to say Rebel is completely and undoubtedly town, but he hasn't done anything to suggest otherwise. Like you already said, we need to think outside the box. Like I said already, all of this bickering isn't going to bring the town anymore closer to victory. If we can trust Reaver's word, you are town. If we can trust T-Marv's and your word, Envi is possibly scum. I won't vote or fos on either because I myself am unsure. But we're ALL poking around the wrong bushes, and once again, it isn't benefiting town. You haven't played mafia with me much. I bicker EVERY GAME. I like how you're twisting this around. Speede tried to make a play on Reaver that made ZERO sense and it backfired on him. He put his foot in his mouth which is why he got lynched. He also didn't do himself any favors in his responses. Intriguing how the mis-lynch on Speede was all me yet he had OVER A DAY to speak up and when he did painted a bigger target on his back. Convenient that you left that out. Bolded section, I trust TMarv. However I must ask, how are we poking around the wrong bushes and who should we be looking at? Your answers have been very vague as it relates to that.
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Post by Brian Hollywood on Oct 8, 2013 20:25:31 GMT -4
Reaver is town.
Sorry I haven't been as active yesterday or today..I've been sick so I haven't been around and probably won't be much tonight as I'm probably going back to sleep.
Just wanted to put my two cents in. Reaver is town, and I'm not sure if I stated this the second day or not, but Varga is town as well. If that gets me killed during the night by the Mafia, oh well.
Thank you, that is all.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 8, 2013 21:00:54 GMT -4
ty BH. we r shortening the list down.
confirmed town - me, james, king, hollywood.
unsure or not confirmed - terry, envi, rebel, kash, raab, fury, jace, smith, kje
dont b offended, we r just in the process of narrowing it down. kash has been very quiet and by my observation alone, the scum team have at least 1 player who is very PW Mafia experienced. i also have a good idea who might b town.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 8, 2013 21:07:15 GMT -4
I want to hear from KJE and AC Smith with their thoughts on the game.
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Post by Gordon Fury on Oct 8, 2013 21:10:36 GMT -4
I haven't been active in many games lately, so if that's your reason for suspecting I'm Scum then try again. L1 wasn't protecting a power role or Scum, I promise you that. He was simply keeping the Town from being to overwhelmed by Mod-killing someone who wasn't going to play. That said, those following AC's lead seem to be setting me up for a bandwaggon with rationale and that to me is suspicious. From what I've seen from back reading and everything else. My biggest suspects at this point are Envi and Rebel. Reasons: Rebel - You seem to be very involved in the game and that's very unlike you from a Town perspective. Leads me to believe you're scum or 3rd party, something extremely interesting to play. Envi - That last paragraphed on Jennings felt very rehersed, like you were trying too hard to point the finger at him, like it was something you put together on a QuickTopic and hashed out so it seemed just right. I don't think James V is scum. Matt Stone came out and said that he thinks James and Hollywood are town... and then Stone died. If James was scum he wouldn't take out his biggest supporter. vote: Envi reason stated above. Vote: EnviI agree with everything stated above. The more I re-read Envi's post, the more rehearsed it seems, and the more it looks like Tmarv is on point. And if Reaver is on the level, which according to Hollywood he is, then my feeling about Jennings being town is right, and he he trusts Tmarv, then im willing to trust them, and my gut. Vote: Envi
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 8, 2013 21:31:20 GMT -4
Okay. Well, after reading through, here is what I think. I want to believe JamesV is town. I really do. But his mis-lynch on Speede and the bickering with Reb & Envi, though Envi I'm unsure if she is town. Reb said he promised to be active, which looks to me is a promise he is keeping. James, you are a hell of a Mafia player. But in my opinion, you, along with a few others, are looking at the wrong people. James, you said it yourself that we need to "Think outside the box." Just because Rebel is active one game when he is known not to be, he is scum. By your reasoning James, me being inactive ONE game when I'm known to be active makes me scum unconditionally. You went from Speede, to Envi, and now Rebel. Not to say Rebel is completely and undoubtedly town, but he hasn't done anything to suggest otherwise. Like you already said, we need to think outside the box. Like I said already, all of this bickering isn't going to bring the town anymore closer to victory. If we can trust Reaver's word, you are town. If we can trust T-Marv's and your word, Envi is possibly scum. I won't vote or fos on either because I myself am unsure. But we're ALL poking around the wrong bushes, and once again, it isn't benefiting town. You haven't played mafia with me much. I bicker EVERY GAME. I like how you're twisting this around. Speede tried to make a play on Reaver that made ZERO sense and it backfired on him. He put his foot in his mouth which is why he got lynched. He also didn't do himself any favors in his responses. Intriguing how the mis-lynch on Speede was all me yet he had OVER A DAY to speak up and when he did painted a bigger target on his back. Convenient that you left that out. Bolded section, I trust TMarv. However I must ask, how are we poking around the wrong bushes and who should we be looking at? Your answers have been very vague as it relates to that. I'm not saying the lynch on Speede was all your fault. He did have an entire 27 hours to reply and I even pointed that out the moment he replied. But after reading BH's confirmation that Reaver is town, and Reaver's confirmation that you in fact are town, and YOU saying you trust T-Marv, then I guess what everyone is saying must be true. But I am going to reread it one more time.
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Post by KJE on Oct 8, 2013 21:32:37 GMT -4
From the looks of things we have 2 people who are able to clear... Brian hasn't been cleared so if Reaver can clear him that covers that completely. That way we don't have a mafia cop or anything fucking with us and screwing us up along the way.
Like I said, regarding the game, I haven't been following closely, and that is because I am dealing with a lot.
As far as scum/third party. I believe both to be as equal of a threat. I seen it mentioned that third party might only be looking for someone or something? (or did I read that wrong from someone??) But whether they are or not its still someone that has a win condition against the town, and that means they need to be dealt with.
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 8, 2013 21:51:47 GMT -4
My post wasn't based on your activity. I'm simply used to seeing you make a much more vigorous attempt at uncovering details than I've managed to see. All I have to go on is your style, and how it differs from before. I can assure you all that this is the first game where I'm not on the scum team. However, harking back to Jennings' earlier point-- are you insinuating that I should target inactives for a lynch and wait for mafia to pick us off at night? If you're looking to lynch me for "jumping down the throat" of a guy that might not even be town (because Reaver's post means nothing to me unless I missed the part where HE was confirmed town, in which case, I apologize) then I strongly suggest you don't. This town isn't in a position to do so. I'm throwing darts until something sticks; fucks not given. You're all shady until I have reason to think otherwise.Anyway. Back to these videos, because I kept getting distracted while trying to watch them this evening. Bolded Section- So you're just throwing things out there? Not really caring where they land I see. Well let me say; Jennings is one of the most active players in this game besides maybe me and a few others. Because Jennings is not AS active as his previous game, he's scum? Just like my other post, by your reasoning Envi, If you're not as active than you regularly would be, then you're scum? What justifies that James is scum? His slight inactivity? And why are we all shady? What about you? You haven't contributed much to the town. With the predicament we're in, we're all shady means EVERYONE, not just everyone minus one. You're just as shady as anyone else. Italicized Section- Since when we're you made sheriff of our nice little urban town? You haven't even read the videos yet to have any say in what is going on. I highly doubt you are town. Just my opinion. However FoS:Envi I'll wait it out for now. Just to let you have a chance to respond.
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Post by KJE on Oct 8, 2013 21:53:52 GMT -4
I agree with Jennings. Now I can pretty much guarantee at least 1 mafia member was in on the Speede lynch, and unless anyone else has something to go on, looking at that is a good place to start imo This here is something to work off of. We can gather all the names (I know I voted) who voted to lynch speede and narrow down that list since there was at least 1 mafia player on it according to Fury. (just an option of where to start) Myself, Reaver, Fury, Tmarv, Stone, Envi, King, Jennings. From that list the following have been cleared so far Stone Jennings Reaver I think that was it? There might have been another I can't recall right now >_< But that leaves the rest of us. Those who can clear, need to go and look into the rest of us on that list.
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 8, 2013 21:56:03 GMT -4
I agree with Jennings. Now I can pretty much guarantee at least 1 mafia member was in on the Speede lynch, and unless anyone else has something to go on, looking at that is a good place to start imo This here is something to work off of. We can gather all the names (I know I voted) who voted to lynch speede and narrow down that list since there was at least 1 mafia player on it according to Fury. (just an option of where to start) Myself, Reaver, Fury, Tmarv, Stone, Envi, King, Jennings. From that list the following have been cleared so far Stone Jennings Reaver I think that was it? There might have been another I can't recall right now >_< But that leaves the rest of us. Those who can clear, need to go and look into the rest of us on that list. Reaver cleared me, or atleast added me to his Cleared Town list
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Post by Gordon Fury on Oct 8, 2013 22:04:45 GMT -4
I agree with Jennings. Now I can pretty much guarantee at least 1 mafia member was in on the Speede lynch, and unless anyone else has something to go on, looking at that is a good place to start imo This here is something to work off of. We can gather all the names (I know I voted) who voted to lynch speede and narrow down that list since there was at least 1 mafia player on it according to Fury.(just an option of where to start) Myself, Reaver, Fury, Tmarv, Stone, Envi, King, Jennings. From that list the following have been cleared so far Stone Jennings Reaver I think that was it? There might have been another I can't recall right now >_< But that leaves the rest of us. Those who can clear, need to go and look into the rest of us on that list. Hold up KJE, I think you misunderstood me. by "I can almost guarantee" I meant that my gut tells me a scum member wouldn't see an early lynch like that stack up without voting. I DO NOT have any solid information on that opinion. Not saying that it isn't something to look at, but im just making it clear that it was my feeling only.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 8, 2013 22:12:46 GMT -4
i dont believe the 3rd party is a threat. i had it last game and it was a survivor role. also if u notice 3rd party sk's r usually purple where as this is a light blue like mine was last game. maybe im missing something but thats just how i feel about it.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 8, 2013 22:12:57 GMT -4
I agree with Jennings. Now I can pretty much guarantee at least 1 mafia member was in on the Speede lynch, and unless anyone else has something to go on, looking at that is a good place to start imo This here is something to work off of. We can gather all the names (I know I voted) who voted to lynch speede and narrow down that list since there was at least 1 mafia player on it according to Fury. (just an option of where to start) Myself, Reaver, Fury, Tmarv, Stone, Envi, King, Jennings. From that list the following have been cleared so far Stone Jennings Reaver I think that was it? There might have been another I can't recall right now >_< But that leaves the rest of us. Those who can clear, need to go and look into the rest of us on that list. King was cleared too.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 8, 2013 22:21:56 GMT -4
vote; envi
almost forgot
yes king was cleared since i was able to get info.....
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 8, 2013 22:28:37 GMT -4
i dont believe the 3rd party is a threat. i had it last game and it was a survivor role. also if u notice 3rd party sk's r usually purple where as this is a light blue like mine was last game. maybe im missing something but thats just how i feel about it. That might be the case. But we won't know until he/she is taken out
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 8, 2013 22:35:48 GMT -4
i dont believe the 3rd party is a threat. i had it last game and it was a survivor role. also if u notice 3rd party sk's r usually purple where as this is a light blue like mine was last game. maybe im missing something but thats just how i feel about it. That might be the case. But we won't know until he/she is taken out This is very true.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 8, 2013 22:37:07 GMT -4
fair enuff...just sayin
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 8, 2013 22:39:20 GMT -4
Could be a Survivor role for all we know.
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 8, 2013 22:52:22 GMT -4
Vote:Envi
She was online an hour ago and didnt even attempt to defend herself.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Oct 8, 2013 23:11:35 GMT -4
VOTE: Envi
We need a productive lynch. Do I 100% think Envi is scum? Maybe not. But by lynching him, we can potentially learn a lot about the validity of all these claims that have cleared people. At this stage of the game, that could give us a mountain of information we as a town don't have right now.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 8, 2013 23:11:45 GMT -4
Vote:EnviShe was online an hour ago and didnt even attempt to defend herself. For the record, Evan may play a girl on Sunday night fake e-wrestling TV...pretty sure he's a dude. His comments about playing balls to the wall until proves otherwise was enough of a scum-tell to me, and since he's refusing to answer allegations... Vote: Envi
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 8, 2013 23:22:22 GMT -4
I have a tendency to call people girls by their names. FML
Envi knows what I meant...Yeah
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 9, 2013 0:09:03 GMT -4
Like I said yesterday he's playing very similar to how he did the last game when we were scum together. That was a major tell for me going by Envi's play in this game.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2013 1:27:56 GMT -4
AND THAT'S A LYNCH!!!
Evan Envi (7) - Michael Jennings, Gordon Fury, Reaver, The Last King, AC Smith, Johnny Rebel
The count is correct.
Dead day 3 (lynched) - Evan Envi - Dr. Alec Earnhardt - Town Doctor
Write up coming mid day tomorrow. It is now night time. No more talking. The deadline for night actions is 11:00 PM EST time Wednesday. Get er' done.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2013 21:36:48 GMT -4
DAY THREE
Dead day 3 (lynched) - Evan Envi - Dr. Alec Earnhardt - Town Doctor
NIGHT THREE
Before the island...
Characters in this video:
Grant Brody Daisy Lee Oliver Carswell Liza Snow Jason Brody
Characters in this video: Vaas Montenegro Dennis Rogers Jason Brody
With 12 alive, it'll take 7 votes to lynch. Deadline for day four will be @ 11:00 PM EST, Saturday.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 9, 2013 22:09:51 GMT -4
I was roleblocked last night.
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 9, 2013 22:23:29 GMT -4
Jesus. So judging by the third video, a kill was attempted by the Mafia. But it failed.
Now JamesV is getting roleblocked. Do towns usually have to rbers?
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 9, 2013 22:24:11 GMT -4
EBWOP
Cause if not, then we know Mafia has a rber
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 9, 2013 22:27:47 GMT -4
EBWOP Cause if not, then we know Mafia has a rber They likely do since Speede was the town roleblocker.
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 9, 2013 23:02:40 GMT -4
I'm surprised Mafia's kill didn't work. We must have a JOAT, seeing as how we don't have a doctor anymore :/
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