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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 24, 2013 12:13:23 GMT -4
Hmm. Am I the only one who is seeing one of the town members found James at the end?
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Post by Brian Hollywood on Oct 24, 2013 12:54:45 GMT -4
It's a possibility. Which might indicate there is at least a tracker in the game potentially.
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Post by Matt Stone on Oct 24, 2013 13:05:12 GMT -4
I believe Onyx' arrival in the write-up is strictly flavor to keep the story of the write-ups going. What I find more interesting is that aside from T-Marv, no one has anything to contribute so far. Last game Hollywood was cop and outed himself day 2 with info, and this game he doesn't bring anything forward, leading me to believe he is either vanilla or mafia.
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Post by Evan De Parker on Oct 24, 2013 13:38:28 GMT -4
I was roleblocked last night. Had I not been, I'd probably have some info for us-- or at least something that points us in the right direction.
I do find it interesting that Onyx was "found." I doubt it was just for flavor, but I've been wrong before.
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Jace
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Post by Jace on Oct 24, 2013 13:39:23 GMT -4
With MewTwo dead we now have to concentrate on killing Team Rocket. With that said L-1 is town also.
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Post by Matt Stone on Oct 24, 2013 14:37:12 GMT -4
So we have two people who claim to be Roleblocked, meaning we would need to have a town role-blocker in the game, and two people claiming to be able to clear others (TMarv -> Kash, Jace -> L-1). I have no reason to doubt these clears, so we have somewhere to start with. Anyone else?
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Post by T-Marv on Oct 24, 2013 15:24:00 GMT -4
I'm going to say this real quick. If there are COPS out there, do not for sure CLEAR or INCRIMINATE someone before you check your own sanity.
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Post by Evan De Parker on Oct 24, 2013 17:52:14 GMT -4
This doesn't leave me with very much to go on, even with the write-ups. The only thing I could think of, would be pointing shifty-eyes toward Reaver if it were to be revealed he was lying about being roleblocked, but I have no reason to think that, nor do I believe anyone else does.
So... At this point, all I can do is look for people that are playing differently than they "typically" play. Might be too early in the game to really figure that out though.
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Post by Brian Hollywood on Oct 24, 2013 18:30:56 GMT -4
I believe Onyx' arrival in the write-up is strictly flavor to keep the story of the write-ups going. What I find more interesting is that aside from T-Marv, no one has anything to contribute so far. Last game Hollywood was cop and outed himself day 2 with info, and this game he doesn't bring anything forward, leading me to believe he is either vanilla or mafia. I unfortunately do not have anything to offer except some discussion and maybe some wisdom to the game. I will say, though, that I am town.
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Post by KJE on Oct 24, 2013 19:23:41 GMT -4
I forgot all about the game, sorry. I have nothing to report thus far because of my previous statement. Whoever got Jennings, good going.
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Peter Shelley
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Post by Peter Shelley on Oct 24, 2013 20:31:32 GMT -4
Okay so before I get started I'd like to make one thing clear to everybody so as to avoid confusion later;
I'm new to the board and I'm a new Mafia player here but make no mistake, I have played this game extensively in the past and am more than familiar with the mechanics. The "He could be retarded/new player" excuse will not slide when applied to me if I say anything suspect. I say this because I've seen more than a few games grind to a halt because someone new has said something dumb and there's a 50/50 split debate on whether it was a malicious mistake or not, leaving anti-town to run rampant in the shadow of idiocy. If I appear scummy, hammer me with everything you've got.
Now back to our scheduled programming.
With Jennings/SK down, the length of the game has effectively been doubled because touch wood only one person should be dying per night now as opposed to two. That gives us a lot more breathing room than we otherwise would've had.
Being of the school of players who read a lot into the write-ups rather than taking it as just flavour, I can spot a few potential things we can learn. We can confirm three scum players minimum, but I wouldn't be surprised to see more given the rather high number of players we have and more interestingly the reference to "the boss" that you see in the dialogue. In total we're looking at 3/4 remaining threats to town.
Also, if Reaver and (no subject) are to be believed, we're looking at two roleblockers (one town and one anti-town), either or and a liar or two liars. If we have two roleblockers active, expect things to get messy.
That's all the weather.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 24, 2013 21:39:48 GMT -4
2 rb'ers usually sounds about rite in APW games. the question is, was anybody else rb'd? that might determine a liar but doubtfll anybody would say that now.
i wish i had something to report but theres really nuttn i can do. the best i can do is tell people i was blocked. grateful that the sk is dead and the fact that it was varga doesnt surprise me. he is usually 1 of the 3 people targeted nite 1.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 24, 2013 21:47:49 GMT -4
Jessie: Wha ... what is that!? The rubble starts to move, and them it flies off in all directions. Then, standing against the backdrop of fire and rubble... Mewtwo stands, unharmed, ready for a fight. Slowly he lifts his head to stare at the two members of Team Rocket who stare on in fear. Mewtwo: Did you think you could harness my power? Jessie: Do something James! Mewtwo makes starts to float off the ground, raising his hand as he makes an energy ball. Jessie looks at James. James looks at Jessie. It looks like Team Rocket is about to blast off again ... ... suddenly, a Pokeball is launched at Mewtwo. It hits him, and before he can launch his attack, he starts to dissipate into energy himself. Mewtwo makes one final look at Team Rocket before being captured by the ball. It falls to the ground. There’s a purple top to it, and the letter ‘M’ above the seal. Captured/Dead: Mewtwo (Jennings) - Serial Killer (Even Nights Only) ebwop. i also wanna point this out ^^ it says even nites only so he wouldnt have been able to kill last nite ayways. im wondering if he alternated with the scum and they each have a secondary role or if the every other nite rule was just the SK. might make more sense if theres 4 scum and 1 sk that they alternate kills every other nite.
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Post by Speede on Oct 24, 2013 22:21:08 GMT -4
Checking in, and I'd like to say that, if nothing else, I'm pleased to see the Third Party is gone. My only concern is that it probably means we're dealing with a mafia with some measure of experience; if Marv and Jace are to be believed, Kash and L1 are clear, and I'm willing to consider the two clearing them pseudo-cleared for the time being.
So far this day phase, a couple things I've noticed, I like the amount of contribution by No Subject off little info, and it gives me a town vibe from him. On another note, kaylyn's post was rather meaningless fluff, and it sounds off to me that someone as avid in mafia as her would "forget" about the game. From what I've come to expect of her, she's more active in mafia than a lot of people, and that's sort of a pseudo-scum read to me. Not to mention I can tie that into the "experienced mafia" thought, and say she might be my leading suspect right now.
The last major thought on my mind right now is Shelley, whose big post seems rather... Interesting, to say the least. I'd almost consider his comment about not being new and wanting to be lynched if he appears scummy a sort of challenge and a risky move to say by admitting it he's not scummy, but for now, I'm not sure. He's giving a reasonable amount of input toward the goal right now, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Oct 24, 2013 22:47:00 GMT -4
Checking in, and I'd like to say that, if nothing else, I'm pleased to see the Third Party is gone. My only concern is that it probably means we're dealing with a mafia with some measure of experience; if Marv and Jace are to be believed, Kash and L1 are clear, and I'm willing to consider the two clearing them pseudo-cleared for the time being. Speede, I'm not necessarily sure an experienced mafia is the case here. Jennings is a very popular target early on in these games, and for good reason; when he's town, he's one of the most aggressive players on this board. For that reason, why kill him when it's insanely likely someone will in some way, shape, or form, have ample means to discover who did it? That's not to say we don't have an experienced scum group. It's just still yet to be determined, that's all. For the time being, I believe both RB claims. It's very likely the town and mafia each have a role-blocker (maybe that's what Meowth is?), so that's not really a concern here. My main concern is that it doesn't seem like any of our power roles got information on what happened last night. I do have one question before I start cranking out my RP for ONIH. Also, Jason Kash is indeed Town aligned. I'm going to say this real quick. If there are COPS out there, do not for sure CLEAR or INCRIMINATE someone before you check your own sanity. T-Marv, if you're not the cop, how do you know Kash is town? I'm not trying to role-fish, nor am I trying to accuse you of lying, but I'm curious.
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Post by T-Marv on Oct 24, 2013 23:54:49 GMT -4
You're not trying to role fish there AC? Then why ask the question. The only way I could sufficiently answer you is to give you my role...
There are OTHER ways to clear or incriminate someone without being a cop, especially in a game with diverse roles (this is that kind of game I promise)
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Post by Gordon Fury on Oct 25, 2013 0:49:44 GMT -4
At this stage I have no reason or way to discredit the roleblocks or the clears. The main thing that has stood out to me is this: Also, Jason Kash is indeed Town aligned. I'm going to say this real quick. If there are COPS out there, do not for sure CLEAR or INCRIMINATE someone before you check your own sanity. T-Marv, if you're not the cop, how do you know Kash is town? I'm not trying to role-fish, nor am I trying to accuse you of lying, but I'm curious.[/quote] Tmarv's question to this mirrors mine. How else is your mind can TMarv tell you how he cleared Kash without role claiming? How did you expect him to answer that question AC? He tried to give you as best a response as he could, but was that really what you were trying to get from him?
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Post by Gordon Fury on Oct 25, 2013 0:50:49 GMT -4
EBWOP I fucked that up, but it was a response to AC's post.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 25, 2013 1:24:47 GMT -4
#001. AC Smith #003. Gooch #006. Brian Hollywood #007. KJE #010. Gordon Fury #011. Matt Stone #012. Peter Shelley #013. Speede #015. Jace #016. Mannie #017. The Last King #018. Rebel ---
Our three person (perhaps more) scum team is right here. There also may be some other type of non town aligned role out there that is on this list as well.
Night actions should be focused on these players. Your wasting your time elsewhere right now. If your on this list and have a town aligned role, you might want to target someone else on this list.
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Post by SalTal on Oct 25, 2013 1:37:30 GMT -4
The trees part, and in bursts Onyx, carrying our three adventurers into the ruins. Ash: It’s Team Rocket!Team Rocket! turns around, finding this arch nemesis (and partners) dismounting the Onyx. Before they are swamped, Jessie reaches behind her back, then throws her PokeBall. Jessie: Go ... Arbok! Arbok comes out of the Pokeball, hissing at Onyx. Onyx roars back, shaking the ground underneath everyone. It seems like an unfair fight, such are the sizes. Before Arbok can launch any attack, Onyx circles around Ash, Brock and Misty to protect them as they dismount and get their own Pokeballs ready. Jessie: Arbok! Use Glare! Arbok rises up to its full position, then uses Glare on Onyx, who is firstly distracted, then paralysed. He begins to unwind, unable to shield his master and his friends, instead winding around and knocking them over! With no protection, the heroes are exposed for Team Rocket's attacks! Meowth: Why you pesky ... what are you three doing here!? Meowth readies to launch an attack, but spots Pikachu trying to help Ash get up after being knocked over. Meowth grins. Meowth: There! There’s Pikachu! Maybe the boss will happy if we bring it to him! [DAY #002] No Votes
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Post by KJE on Oct 25, 2013 5:41:10 GMT -4
Speede, I am assuming you haven't paid attention to anything I have said in the last few games, because shit has been chaotic at home so yeah, forgetting about the game is very easy to do right now.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 25, 2013 11:37:59 GMT -4
anybody else notice something about that writeup? looks like onyx is a bodyguard of sorts but it would b jessie thats the roleblocker. heres a question, has everybody checked in today? we might have a possible silencer if theres a 4TH scum since they keep talkin about "the boss".
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Post by Evan De Parker on Oct 25, 2013 12:25:27 GMT -4
Is it possible that Onyx may even be the doctor?
I imagine that being Chansey or Nurse Joy though.
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Post by Evan De Parker on Oct 25, 2013 12:28:28 GMT -4
EBWOP
Is there a reason that Ekans became Arbok in the middle of the write-up or was that a mistake?
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Oct 25, 2013 13:08:39 GMT -4
Nothing to report. Not by my comp. Don't want to get modkilled.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 25, 2013 13:22:47 GMT -4
pretty sure its a typo, and its possible that onyx is the doctor since ash and the gang r just in white, y would nurse joy b a playable character and not them?
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Post by "The Last King" on Oct 25, 2013 13:30:11 GMT -4
pretty sure its a typo, and its possible that onyx is the doctor since ash and the gang r just in white, y would nurse joy b a playable character and not them? Well it wouldn't make since to have everyone be a char. There are a fuckton of people. Besides, it would male Damn good sense to have Nurse Joy or Chansey be a doctor than giant rock snake.
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Post by SalTal on Oct 25, 2013 18:35:05 GMT -4
EBWOPIs there a reason that Ekans became Arbok in the middle of the write-up or was that a mistake? Mod Note: It was a typo. Fixed, with thanks.
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Post by Speede on Oct 26, 2013 1:12:01 GMT -4
Speede, I am assuming you haven't paid attention to anything I have said in the last few games, because shit has been chaotic at home so yeah, forgetting about the game is very easy to do right now. No, honestly I have missed it. I've lacked any attention span past my death the last few games, as real life is getting in the way of my schedule quite a bit too lately, but I figured i would at least point out that it's not a common thing for you from what I'm aware of... As previously stated, I have the suspicion that we've got a skilled player within the scum team who would know to kill off James night One, and with AC Smith's role fishing tactics, I wouldn't be surprised if its him. T-Marv wouldn't put his ass on the line to clear Kash unless he was actually in a position to do so, and especially with his spotty activity around here the last few games, he wouldn't throw himself purposefully in the line of fire, or at least, so I'm lead to believe. On another note, I feel rather curious about Reaver bringing up the "fourth scum" thought repeatedly. If we have a fourth, my money is on it being Giovanni, the team rocket head from the original series. We wouldn't have a five person scumteam mor it could theoretically be Cassidy and Butch, who I just realized were named after Butch Cassidy, unless I'm getting one of their names wrong... But it's most likely Giovanni if there is one, and I doubt he's here anyway; my bet is on a three person scum team.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 26, 2013 1:21:26 GMT -4
Speede, I am assuming you haven't paid attention to anything I have said in the last few games, because shit has been chaotic at home so yeah, forgetting about the game is very easy to do right now. No, honestly I have missed it. I've lacked any attention span past my death the last few games, as real life is getting in the way of my schedule quite a bit too lately, but I figured i would at least point out that it's not a common thing for you from what I'm aware of... As previously stated, I have the suspicion that we've got a skilled player within the scum team who would know to kill off James night One, and with AC Smith's role fishing tactics, I wouldn't be surprised if its him. T-Marv wouldn't put his ass on the line to clear Kash unless he was actually in a position to do so, and especially with his spotty activity around here the last few games, he wouldn't throw himself purposefully in the line of fire, or at least, so I'm lead to believe. On another note, I feel rather curious about Reaver bringing up the "fourth scum" thought repeatedly. If we have a fourth, my money is on it being Giovanni, the team rocket head from the original series. We wouldn't have a five person scumteam mor it could theoretically be Cassidy and Butch, who I just realized were named after Butch Cassidy, unless I'm getting one of their names wrong... But it's most likely Giovanni if there is one, and I doubt he's here anyway; my bet is on a three person scum team. ive said it once and wasnt the first to suggest it. ur really slipping thru the cracks man. i say after this game, take a break and take care of the personal stuff u got cuz i think its messing wit ur judgement......some of the things uve said has gotten u lynched for no reason and i think u just need a break. cant afford to have a quality mafia player screwing up the town.
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