ONIH Feedback

[Evan De Parker]

Not to blame anyone other than myself here, but to be fair, I was really left with a limited number of people to choose from when Jeff made it a point that "everybody is going to be booked for ONIH." I don't think anyone would wanna crawl out of one hardcore match and climb into a Chamber. It was either Matthews, Mr. Dangerous, or one of the newbies, and I refuse to put Mr. Dangerous in a World Title match.

[Chris Madison]

Oct 29, 2013 22:45:38 GMT -4 Evan De Parker said:

Not to blame anyone other than myself here, but to be fair, I was really left with a limited number of people to choose from when Jeff made it a point that "everybody is going to be booked for ONIH." I don't think anyone would wanna crawl out of one hardcore match and climb into a Chamber. It was either Matthews, Mr. Dangerous, or one of the newbies, and I refuse to put Mr. Dangerous in a World Title match.

Why wasn't Mr. Dangerous used in the Gauntlet Table Match?

[Evan De Parker]

That's a good question. That's usually a given.

...come to think of it...

Has anybody seen Mr. Dangerous lately?

Fess up, murderer.

[Shadow]

Ill be honest you want to put a surprise to everyone. Evan Envi would have been a hell of a shocker replacement. Michael Lively was another Good one. Seeing as it was a gimmick return (Im thinking that's what Blade's was or is he REALLY back) anyone could have done it for a "one night only" kind of thing.

[SalTal]

I'm not doing a piece-by-piece breakdown of your rant, Shadow. PS did a good enough job of that. I will, however, draw your attention to the flagrant BS that you have in there though:

I'd like to leave feed back to my opponents for their work. I'd actually like to see everyone do this in the future because I don't see how it would hurt.

Just from the start, there’s a load of assumption, but the biggest one is that people want feedback. Not everyone wants it. Similarly, there was a feedback board, and now it’s gone on the assumption (partly) that individualised feedback could be done through PM. That’s exactly where this diatribe should have gone: PM.

While I was very pleased and excited to be in this match i have to say I am kind of disappointed at the turnout with everyone involved (including myself).

From here on in, your opinion is tainted by your own criticism. The fact that you are admitting to doing what it is that you didn’t like us from doing makes all of this largely redundant.

I do not think its right to post two roleplays within twenty four hours, especially if its practically a deadline bomb (while many of you may be aware I extremely dislike deadline bombing, I see it as cheap).

The rule is specific and clear: You cannot post 2 RP’s within 12 hours of the deadline. That’s the rule, and you can’t criticise anyone for following them. That’s just ridiculous. Actually, it’s absurd. You would be crying murder if someone broke the rules and now you’re crying murder that it was followed. I like how you make an exception that you hate deadline bombing, but have equated what you (and others did) to deadline bombing. So while you hate it, you do it. Please, explain to me why it is that you’re arguing from the point that you didn’t do it, when you actually followed the rules as well.

Although Sally, Evan and I all squeezed in two roleplays all three of us were guilty of posting two within twenty four hours and that wasn't fair to our opponents or ourselves.

Who are you to say what’s fair to ourselves? Don't speak for me. What if that’s what was fair for some of us? I’ll say it now: It was fair for me. I wanted to post like that for my reasons; reasons I have no intention of telling you, nor should I/anyone have to. I followed the rules. And the rules designate a split time line (exactly what you're asking for): First you have the X number of hours before the 12th hour, and; the 12 hours that follow. You HAVE two deadlines - you just need to realise it.

Ah, fuck it. I will break your post down bit but bit.

I honestly feel that if a match has a 2 RP limit, the show should have a deadline for the first roleplay and a final deadline for the second. If you mist the first deadline... well you only get one roleplay.

Great idea ... except it already exists!

I have a few reasons for this the primary being that it can help improve the quality of our roleplays.

This is the biggest load of bullshit I can find in all this. You know what improves a promo? The person fucking writing it. Not some deadline. Some people actually write better with a deadline - the pressure pushes them to write better. Seriously ask yourself these two questions:

1. Would your idea make someone who can't spell, spell better?
2. Are 'reply' promos better than individual promos.

The answer to both is no, clearly. And if you say 'maybe' to number 2, you're proving my point exactly as I stated it: The person writing will make it a good promo or not. If I can read your stuff before writing, I could write a really great promo. Or I could not read your stuff and still write a really great promo. Guess what? Not only didn't I read YOUR stuff but I read no one's stuff from my match. Your assumption (yet again) is that everyone wants to aspire to write like you. Trust me when I say that is not one of my aspirations.

When you take two people and put them in a match against one another you're creating a story between them. This story is influenced by a number of factors: Each Megastar's recent dealing in APW, any storylines a Megastar may be involved in, the match writer's take on the two characters and most importantly the story the involved parties will share for the time are "in the ring."

More unproven assumptions:

1. You are confounding the person 'booking' (when YOU take two people and put them in a match) and the people writing (YOU'RE creating a story). The person booking the matches has NO CONTROL over what story gets told; it's all up to the writers. Take the fundamental principle of two no shows in a singles match: No fucking story is getting told, is there? It's up to the people writing the promos to tell the story that THEY want to.
2. You are also assuming that the writer wants to tell the same story as all parties involved. Clearly this will never be the case. The writer is only responsible for writing a match - nothing more, nothing less. The writer might not (and often doesn't) even read your promo - what sort of story is going to get told then?

I understand some people don't read their opponents roleplays prior to posting and thats fine thats your prerogative but if a match has a two roleplay limit (speaking for myself) I do read my opponent's first roleplay and look for what kind of angles they feed me. It helps keep the creative juices pumping.

Again, you're assuming that everyone should write like you (if only!) while simultaneously pointing out that people can actually do something different to you. You seriously need to come to a conclusion: Should we all be like Shadow and do what you say, or should you be an individual and accept and appreciate other people's 'ways' of doing this?

When you're suffering from writers block (as many of us often do at times) having any/all of your opponents wait until the last 24 hours to post anything can really hamper the quality of your work.

That is not a problem or a concern of mine. If anything, it disadvantages me to give YOU ideas on what to write. This is a competition and we (well, most of us ...) respect the results, but we all do want to win when we deserve it. If you can't think of ideas, that's your problem. Again, going back to your previous point: What sort of story are you telling when you're relying on what I say? You're not telling any part of the story - you're just tell my part again.

And, again, if you have writer's block ... it's the bloody writer's block that is hampering the quality of your work, not your opponent/s.

Yes I did suffer from writers block on this PPV couple that with my lack of time and well you get double RPs within 24 hours.

Looks like you can make an exception for your own lack of time, but not anyone else's. Hypocrite much? You've just slammed people for not following your own 'principled stand' of posting early (to help you get through your writer's block) and then cite lack of time as the reason you did it. No one else gets to claim that, right?

So I apologize to my opponents for doing that.

What you did with your promos doesn't require an apology because you followed the rules. And that's the same reason your chance of getting an apology out of me over this is sweet fuck all.

Special thanks to Sally for getting one up first.

Thanks. And do you see me complaining that I didn't have anything to work with?

I do understand people have lives outside of this place (Lord knows I am usually busy every damn day).

This only stands as a valid statement until you say ...

Still,

Now I know what you're about to say right after will not only contradict your previous statement, but make the previous statement mean nothing. It's like the classic "I'm not a racist, but ..." - whatever comes after the 'but' is going to be racist, thus making you a racist!

And I'll come back to that idea later.

like Sentinel stressed a few weeks back, we OWE it to this place to budget our time better. The better quality work we put in, the better quality of show everyone gets.

I'll be frank with you, and it's a risky thing: We don't owe anyone anything. If you wanted to walk away tomorrow, you could. You haven't signed some e-contract. If you simply cannot take part anymore, then you leave. If you don't have time (see: CJ Gates), if you need to walk away for a while (see: me), or if you simply just lose the buzz (see: TMarv) you leave. You don't owe a hobby anything. No one will lose sleep if someone leaves.

And by your own figuring here, if I write a shit promo, the writers of ALL the matches are going to write shit shows. If I write good promos, the writers of ALL the matches will write good shows. And if I write the greatest promo of all fucking time, the writers of ALL the matches will write the greatest matches of all fucking time.

Hold on, there can only be one greatest match of all time.

Simply put: It comes down to the talent, abilities, and the contributions of DIFFERENT ENTITIES in this fed. We all have different roles. That's because it's a hobby, with individuals. We all have different obligations because we all take on different roles. To claim that we, as a whole collective, owe anything to anyone else is just absurd.

Now when it comes to the feedback to individual people, I'll only refer to my pertinent points:

I felt bringing back Callahan was a stretch because he left APW a face and suddenly he was there helping AJP? It didn't seem characteristic of him. Also the idea that he was helping to get back at Sally seemed to draw away from the Talford/Mannie storyline that was already full boar.

While I wasn't necessarily consulted about exactly what went down (welcome back Callahan, by the way there), to assume that you know all about the conversations that go on outside of a match, that don't include you, would be ... well, typical given the amount of assumptions that you seem to make, Shadow. You don't know where Sally/Mannie is going, nor do you know that AJP/Sally is the next thing too. Perhaps the chamber match was the end of Sally/Mannie? You just don't know things and you're pontificating about them like you do.

You might feel that it took away from Sally/Mannie but how else will that storyline even continue if Mannie has been eliminated? Bring him back in? He's just gone through a fucking extreme chamber match - if that happened, it would be a worse crime to the match than what you suggest is!

But I was very disappointed in how Sally, a major face completely no sold Shadow.

Guess what? Maybe I'm transition away from face? Maybe there are bigger things in the works here? Or maybe I just wanted to try something new. While i recognise that I need to sell you to a degree, you need to sell yourself way more than I do. What I say about Shadow has nothing to do with anything. If you actually read my promo, you would see that Sally even no-sold herself! I mean, if you saw that surely you should have realised that something's not right in Sally-ville. There are things bigger than a throw-away encounter between our two characters. Heck, there's things bigger than title matches.

It's why I had Shadow no sell you.

I wouldn't know. That's the wonders of not reading your opponent's stuff. It doesn't even factor in to what I think about while i write. I don't need you for ideas, I have my own.

Ive said it before, I expect new people and rookies to say they know nothing about their opponent but both Sally and Shadow have been here for a long while.

See two points above: There are ideas bigger than what Sally thinks of Shadow. But I even factored Shadow in. I could give you a massive run-down of where I'm taking the storyline/Sally character ... but what's the point of even doing it then? There's no surprises, nothing interesting. And that's what you should have taken out: That given this is uncharacteristic (I will admit this) then there's something going on.

I question the thinking and logic of someone saying: "Hmmm, this person has done something VERY different to what they usually do; they must be disrespecting me! Rargh!" A more critical thinker would say "Hmmm, this person has done something VERY different to what they usually do; I'm going to use this to my advantage or at least make it a point of interest."

I thought it was uncharacteristic of her as a face and,

Accepted, and intended.

from handler to handler,

Here we go ...

thought it was a little disrespectful.

I'll give you my idea of what is disrespectful: Coming onto an OOC board and lecturing all of your opponents about what they did wrong - including the winner - and making it seem like you were the guy hard-done by RIGHT AFTER THE FUCKING SHOW WAS POSTED! If i didn't know Envi had some inner fortitude, I'd be railing you for ruining what was a well earned win. Instead, I'll rail you for trying to lecture me about how I should write.

I very rarely (if ever) brag about how long I've done this for, but I'm well into 9/10 years. And in that time I might have actually learnt a thing or two. The first thing I learnt: DON'T FUCKING CONFUSE IC FOR OOC!!! If I say you're an asshole IC it doesn't mean I think you're an asshole OOC (though, it probably will apply from here on in, just to make sure there's no confusion). If I no-sell you in a promo, like I said before, there's probably a reason. And if I have Sally act in a promo that not only doesn't she know anything about you but doesn't care to know anything about you, then there's a damned IC purpose to it all!

It implies that as a reader you do not pay attention to other matches on a show other than your own,

It doesn't imply shit. It merely shows that, in writing my promo, I made some conscious decisions about how to treat Shadow IC.

By the way: I hadn't been paying attention to APW while I was gone outside of what was happening with the title pictures. If you assumed that, you're even more absurd than I ever thought.

Really disrespectful.

Oh, so we went from a 'little' disrespectful to 'really' disrespectful. Can't wait to see what I am when you've read this. I'll make it easy for you; just quote the following lines and fill in the blanks.

Sally is really a [insert adjective here] person.

Sally Talford's recent career has been a little lack luster.

Really? Has it been? All those months I've been in APW ... wait, out of APW. It's not like I was doing anything anywhere else ... stuff where I was hardly being 'lack lustre'. I've been back for, like, three or four shows? What sort of career is fucking four matches long?

gives her a heck of a push, which she needed

Sally hardly needed a push considering she was in a mid-card feud with Mannie and ended up in the main event title match. I guess Sally IS the push?

IMO OOC wise- I feel like you not only wasted my time researching your character and writing about him but Mannie's, Sally's and Evan's too.

Don't say he wasted my time - I didn't read a thing about TMarv because I (along with EVERYONE ELSE) knew he wasn't posting. The dude fucking quit, like, two or three weeks ago. What sort of promo is he going to put up if he doesn't even write here anymore. Then on Twitter he even said "I asked to be taken out the match, I'm not in in for all intents and purposes" (my words, not his exactly), and threw a #OOC in front of it. What could be more obvious he wasn't going to post?

Oh, by the way: TMarv, I'm more sorry for you now than ever. Farewell, buddy, and don't let this be the last bitter memory you have of this place.

And that's all the many, many ways you bothered to insult me, just a small part of the us that you tried to tear to shreds. Next time, ask yourself: If I say this, will people think I'm more self-obsessed, more conceited, more egotistical than they already think.

And if the answer is yes ...

... post it anyway. Clearly you've made a lot of friends with this ...

[SalTal]

Oct 29, 2013 22:12:22 GMT -4 Shadow said:

Although in Jap-English Holy Shit would sound like Ho-REE Shit lol

This.

Just ...

This.

[Sentinel]

Correct me if I'm wrong, cause I'm getting old and memory is the first thing to go, but aren't we all here because we enjoy wrestling and writing and to have fun? Someone said that, right? Sorry to say, Shadow, but you're in the wrong here. All you've done is stir up a hornet's nest of aggravation the rest of us have to dig through forget to actual feedback about the show. Thanks for that.

But to be fair I gotta call someone else out too:

Sally, for crying out loud clean up after yourself next time. I almost broke a hip tripping over all of Shadow's guts that you left laying on the e-floor.

[Jason Cashe]

What a show!

[Evan De Parker]

Sally used the term "pontificating." I'm swooning.

[Chris Madison]

Ok here we go:

Opening segment: Personally I love when Smith interacts with the top talent in APW, simply because he belongs in the conversation! Even though he's holding one of the mid card titles on overdrive, he's the top face of Overdrive! Will anything come of the AJP/Smith interaction, probably not. A cross brand feud seems illogical with Overdrive starting to hurt for talent, but this was a fun segment.

Xtreme Championship Match: I went into this knowing it was the first match for the matchwriter in APW. With that being said it was ok. There were some ups and some downs. The brass knuckle duel was a nice touch. The match seemed a little short IMO. AC Smith is a beast of a character and Andrew is one hell of a writer. It's going to be interesting to see what Leon Roberts and Mad Mumf do from here. I would have liked to see a few more nice spots, this is a PPV match...overall 6/10

Peter Shelley segment: I have to agree with Evan, the dialogue was a little long...would have been an easier read to break it up just a little more. But the content was there. Shelley seems like someone to watch for as we round out the year. Side note, after reading this segment I went to the kitchen to get something to eat because all the comparisons to food made me hungry...

Gauntlet Tables Match: Good read. The match flowed well and the right guy won. Peter Shelley is a beast! A few disappointments in this match for me though, Atlas Adams and Evan McDonald no showing, and the lack of Mr. Dangerous in this match! Would have been nice for him to start against Fev and get an elimination or two of the no-showers. But solid performances from Shelley, Havok, and Sang Real...Only complaint is that some of the eliminations seemed too quick for me...overall 7/10

North American Championship Match: it's a shame KJE and Shione didn't rp, I was really looking forward to this match and thought Shione had a legit chance to capture gold in APW. I enjoyed the opening with Robina taking out KJE, I think that made this match a little more readable. Four may have felt clustered. Robina stood out the most in the match. Well written, only critique would be that maybe Shione should have taken the fall for no showing. Just a minor thing that I may have done differently. Congrats to Amy Zing on the win. Curious to see what happens with the Meltdown title that's still being defended. Overall 8/10

War Games Match: Biggs, bravo! You did a hell of a job writing this up. Everyone had their moments in this match, the structure and the two rings were used well. Kash's toes dragging against the top of the cage, Niobe have to duck to do her shooting star press, all were little touches which made this a good read for me. In all honesty I was shocked at the outcome. I didn't see Reaver turning, I didn't think we'd won the match, shocked. I was unhappy with my rp and was really strapped for time last week(which is why i didn't volunteer to write a match). I enjoyed working with everyone in this match, it was fun bouncing ideas off these guys. Overall 9/10

AJP segment: I'm a firm believer that short is good for segments. No need to turn them into rps of their own. This was a solid interview which further explained Marvin's absence from the chamber later on. Thought it was good and served its purpose. Did AJP have something to do with it?

Tage Title Match: FINALLY!!!! Feels like the Unforgiven have been chasing those belts forever. Match was solid. Should be interesting to see where the tag titles go from here. We really only have a few tag teams on the roster so I can see the Unforgiven going on a nice long run with the straps. As someone else eluded to, this really has a feeling of a new era taking over and apart of that may be giving Bailey and Hopkins the chance to venture out on their own to work as singles as we see talent fading away. Overall 8/10

Jeff/Raab segment: I know what Raab was trying to convey here but I just don't think it came across well. Both dialogues I'm red made it tough to read. Could have been better...

Heavyweight Championship Match: so disappointed level one no showed. This was one of the matches I was looking forward to the most. Rebel worked his ass off leading into this match and it paid off, just not the way he thought I'm sure. There will definitely be a rematch when Level One comes back. Overall 8/10

Enigma teaser: Is this the new trend? Teaser videos at PPV events? Regardless, glad he's back...should be interesting to add to the mix of Asylum.

Undisputed Championship Match: great job to this who rped. I know there's a lot of complaints about his match but reading it, everything seemed right to me. AJP is not supposed to be a dominant champ. her using her charm and wit to get Matthews to do most of the dirty work for her. Evan does a great job with this character. Some people need to realize that this is a game and when you take the fun out of it you are ruining it for everyone else. All gripes should have been done through PM. How many times do we need to repeat that? Match was well written and flowed good for me. Overall 9/10

[Lord Raab]

The text for Stefan wasn't red. It was orange but Jeff's was red cos of what it shows in the coding guide.

[Sentinel]

Let's go one segment at a time:

AJP/SMITH SEGMENT: Their chemistry has only gotten better since the first time I saw them go round-and-round in another fed. Quite amusing to me and looking forward to seeing more.

XTREME CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH: Wasn't surprised to see Smith retain here. A short, fun, brutal match but the ending never seemed in question even when Smith got hurt.

PETER SHELLEY SEGMENT: He has a way with words, doesn't he? Very entertaining.

GAUNTLET TABLES MATCH: I'm in agreement with some others that seeing Connor and Murphy going at it was intriuging. Shelley winning should be a good boost for him and hopefully means more of his segments will hit the shows with even more strange arrogance than before.

PRE-MATCH ATTACK/THREE-WAY BRA-AND-PANTIES MATCH: Yeah, the writer had way too much fun with this one and it showed. Admittedly, it was a fun read, too. Amy winning proves to me that she's finally arrived...though she needs to make a trip to Fredrick's of Hollywood before the next match of this type...

WAR GAMES: Brutal as only guys like these can make it. Impressed by the Black Hand's victory and thinking that any two of them might be a threat to the tag titles if they decide to take a shot. That is...once they can walk again after this twisted encounter.

AJP INTERVIEW: Even though you know she's full of shit (I mean that in a good, Christian way), sometimes you find yourself believing that AJP really gives a damn. Then it passes and you want to twist her head off. That's the kind of conundrum you want in your megastars and your champions.

TRIPLE THREAT JAPANESE DEATH MATCH: Yeah, I'm totally biased on this one. The intensity gave me the shakes before I even got to the end, hanging on every single near-fall. And call bullshit if you like, but I didn't see The Unforgiven winning this match. Glad they did, certainly, but it came as a surprise, albeit a welcome one. I know two teams who are gonna want revenge if there's anything left of them after their blood feud finishes. NewGen may not live to regret playing with matches...

RAAB/JEFF SEGMENT: Just keep poking that big bastard and when he finally gets loose there's gonna be hell to pay. I, for one, can't wait to see it.

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH: Not taking a shot here, but the lack of promos from Level-One made this one feel deflated. Was still a great match, but with the ending not in question it was hard to sink into it and enjoy it. I, for one, demand a rematch.

UNDISPUTED TITLE MATCH: Easily the match of the night. Despite the heat rolling off this contest elsewhere on the boards, it was violent, vicious and beautiful to behold. Whether AJP will keep that title for even half as long as T-Marv remains to be seen, of course, but she's off to a good start.

(Realize the feedback is kind of short, but twelve-hour days will do that to a man. That and partying with The Unforgiven the night before...)

[Sentinel]

Let's go one segment at a time:

AJP/SMITH SEGMENT: Their chemistry has only gotten better since the first time I saw them go round-and-round in another fed. Quite amusing to me and looking forward to seeing more.

XTREME CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH: Wasn't surprised to see Smith retain here. A short, fun, brutal match but the ending never seemed in question even when Smith got hurt.

PETER SHELLEY SEGMENT: He has a way with words, doesn't he? Very entertaining.

GAUNTLET TABLES MATCH: I'm in agreement with some others that seeing Connor and Murphy going at it was intriuging. Shelley winning should be a good boost for him and hopefully means more of his segments will hit the shows with even more strange arrogance than before.

PRE-MATCH ATTACK/THREE-WAY BRA-AND-PANTIES MATCH: Yeah, the writer had way too much fun with this one and it showed. Admittedly, it was a fun read, too. Amy winning proves to me that she's finally arrived...though she needs to make a trip to Fredrick's of Hollywood before the next match of this type...

WAR GAMES: Brutal as only guys like these can make it. Impressed by the Black Hand's victory and thinking that any two of them might be a threat to the tag titles if they decide to take a shot. That is...once they can walk again after this twisted encounter.

AJP INTERVIEW: Even though you know she's full of shit (I mean that in a good, Christian way), sometimes you find yourself believing that AJP really gives a damn. Then it passes and you want to twist her head off. That's the kind of conundrum you want in your megastars and your champions.

TRIPLE THREAT JAPANESE DEATH MATCH: Yeah, I'm totally biased on this one. The intensity gave me the shakes before I even got to the end, hanging on every single near-fall. And call bullshit if you like, but I didn't see The Unforgiven winning this match. Glad they did, certainly, but it came as a surprise, albeit a welcome one. I know two teams who are gonna want revenge if there's anything left of them after their blood feud finishes. NewGen may not live to regret playing with matches...

RAAB/JEFF SEGMENT: Just keep poking that big bastard and when he finally gets loose there's gonna be hell to pay. I, for one, can't wait to see it.

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH: Not taking a shot here, but the lack of promos from Level-One made this one feel deflated. Was still a great match, but with the ending not in question it was hard to sink into it and enjoy it. I, for one, demand a rematch.

UNDISPUTED TITLE MATCH: Easily the match of the night. Despite the heat rolling off this contest elsewhere on the boards, it was violent, vicious and beautiful to behold. Whether AJP will keep that title for even half as long as T-Marv remains to be seen, of course, but she's off to a good start.

(Realize the feedback is kind of short, but twelve-hour days will do that to a man. That and partying with The Unforgiven the night before...)

[Sentinel]

Let's go one segment at a time:

AJP/SMITH SEGMENT: Their chemistry has only gotten better since the first time I saw them go round-and-round in another fed. Quite amusing to me and looking forward to seeing more.

XTREME CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH: Wasn't surprised to see Smith retain here. A short, fun, brutal match but the ending never seemed in question even when Smith got hurt.

PETER SHELLEY SEGMENT: He has a way with words, doesn't he? Very entertaining.

GAUNTLET TABLES MATCH: I'm in agreement with some others that seeing Connor and Murphy going at it was intriuging. Shelley winning should be a good boost for him and hopefully means more of his segments will hit the shows with even more strange arrogance than before.

PRE-MATCH ATTACK/THREE-WAY BRA-AND-PANTIES MATCH: Yeah, the writer had way too much fun with this one and it showed. Admittedly, it was a fun read, too. Amy winning proves to me that she's finally arrived...though she needs to make a trip to Fredrick's of Hollywood before the next match of this type...

WAR GAMES: Brutal as only guys like these can make it. Impressed by the Black Hand's victory and thinking that any two of them might be a threat to the tag titles if they decide to take a shot. That is...once they can walk again after this twisted encounter.

AJP INTERVIEW: Even though you know she's full of shit (I mean that in a good, Christian way), sometimes you find yourself believing that AJP really gives a damn. Then it passes and you want to twist her head off. That's the kind of conundrum you want in your megastars and your champions.

TRIPLE THREAT JAPANESE DEATH MATCH: Yeah, I'm totally biased on this one. The intensity gave me the shakes before I even got to the end, hanging on every single near-fall. And call bullshit if you like, but I didn't see The Unforgiven winning this match. Glad they did, certainly, but it came as a surprise, albeit a welcome one. I know two teams who are gonna want revenge if there's anything left of them after their blood feud finishes. NewGen may not live to regret playing with matches...

RAAB/JEFF SEGMENT: Just keep poking that big bastard and when he finally gets loose there's gonna be hell to pay. I, for one, can't wait to see it.

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH: Not taking a shot here, but the lack of promos from Level-One made this one feel deflated. Was still a great match, but with the ending not in question it was hard to sink into it and enjoy it. I, for one, demand a rematch.

UNDISPUTED TITLE MATCH: Easily the match of the night. Despite the heat rolling off this contest elsewhere on the boards, it was violent, vicious and beautiful to behold. Whether AJP will keep that title for even half as long as T-Marv remains to be seen, of course, but she's off to a good start.

(Realize the feedback is kind of short, but twelve-hour days will do that to a man. That and partying with The Unforgiven the night before...)

[Sentinel]

Don't know how that went up three times...

[Peter Shelley]

Oct 30, 2013 7:55:00 GMT -4 Chris Madison said:

Side note, after reading this segment I went to the kitchen to get something to eat because all the comparisons to food made me hungry...







YES. Exactly what I was intending to happen.

[Jason Cashe]

Food Network would have loved you Shelley!

[B.A. Styles]

Oct 29, 2013 22:09:18 GMT -4 Evan De Parker said:

Alright. The Bra & Panties match was awesome. I was expecting this to be pure filth, and I initially kinda skipped over it, but it was surprisingly well-written. I MEAN, COME ON, THERE WAS A SPANK SPOT! A SPANK SPOT! I think Robina Hood and Amy Zing have smokin’ PBs, and even Shione has a weeeeeeird cuteness about her, so this match… sigh... Jeff, you should be ashamed of yourself for booking this.

Sounds like you are excited about Robina Hood getting spanked, lol.

Don't worry, I'll make my feedback soon, I just have three RPs to make for tomorrow and the day afterwards. So I'll make my feedback on the weekend.

Spoiler...I enjoyed the show extremely much and I would love Shelly to write more of my matches since he is an amazing writer.

[A.C. Smith]

I'll leave more detailed feedback in the coming days. That said, I'll say that I'm happy people seem to have enjoyed the A.C./AJP segment. I've always envisioned Smith having a relationship with AJP akin to the one Al Bundy had with Marcy on "Married With Children," where each hated the other for clearly-defined reasons and took great pleasure in belittling their adversary whenever it was convenient to do so. Plus, Dimitri's an awesome dude and one of my best friends in e-fedding, so I'll gladly take any chance I get to work with him.

Again, more coming later; stay tuned!