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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 21, 2014 19:41:16 GMT -4
I think they're splitting it town/anti-town as opposed to all the factions. Or at least, that's what I got from it all.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Feb 21, 2014 19:45:21 GMT -4
EBWOP
Also, Madison's post is giving off a hint of stalling. Granted, there's not a lot of room for error right now, but if we go into the night phase without a lynch, we're essentially flying blind and hoping that a roleblocker strikes gold, otherwise the 12/4/1 split turns into 11/5/1 before the third party even does anything.
I realize this is risky and that the day is still young, but I'm not entirely sure we can afford to go into the night phase without a lynch. Let's make the most of this day phase and get something out if it.
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Post by Reaver on Feb 21, 2014 20:37:08 GMT -4
ya gate hit it....
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Post by Chris Madison on Feb 21, 2014 20:39:52 GMT -4
EBWOP Also, Madison's post is giving off a hint of stalling. Granted, there's not a lot of room for error right now, but if we go into the night phase without a lynch, we're essentially flying blind and hoping that a roleblocker strikes gold, otherwise the 12/4/1 split turns into 11/5/1 before the third party even does anything. I realize this is risky and that the day is still young, but I'm not entirely sure we can afford to go into the night phase without a lynch. Let's make the most of this day phase and get something out if it. I'm not trying to say we should stall...Just talk it out more than voting on a whim because someone's statement seems "goofy". If we have tangible evidence it needs to come out. if not we need to carefully read between the lines of everyone's posts because the way this game seems to be written up, the numbers could quickly swing in the favor of anti-town. |
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Post by Speede on Feb 22, 2014 0:03:18 GMT -4
EBWOP Also, Madison's post is giving off a hint of stalling. Granted, there's not a lot of room for error right now, but if we go into the night phase without a lynch, we're essentially flying blind and hoping that a roleblocker strikes gold, otherwise the 12/4/1 split turns into 11/5/1 before the third party even does anything. I realize this is risky and that the day is still young, but I'm not entirely sure we can afford to go into the night phase without a lynch. Let's make the most of this day phase and get something out if it. I'm not trying to say we should stall...Just talk it out more than voting on a whim because someone's statement seems "goofy". If we have tangible evidence it needs to come out. if not we need to carefully read between the lines of everyone's posts because the way this game seems to be written up, the numbers could quickly swing in the favor of anti-town. Hey, I'm not voting for Reaver. Honestly, his downright ridiculous antics pretty much clear him as town in my eyes, but I have to point out that the way his post comes across is just plain goofy. On another note, Reaver, I'm not upset about your vote; feel free to leave it on me. I was just defending what I said about your post striking something with mean as way out there, and on a subconscious level, suspicious. Right now, Madison, my suspicion is on MANNIE. I'm just saying, with the whole Reaver thing, that duo of posts from him commenting about losing a townie and how bad it "sux" just feels goofy, when realistically, these numbers day three don't seem stacked against us, like would an 8-5 or 9-5 split. And yes, when I do that, I'm saying 8/9 town and 5 anti-town, counting the AJP character in anti. |
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Post by "Ballistic" Bryan Deas on Feb 22, 2014 0:34:24 GMT -4
Just a heads up here. Sorry that I haven't participated lately, but I been swamped with work but I will be able to participate if need be. If not, sorry for the delay of responses.
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Post by "The Last King" on Feb 22, 2014 0:34:40 GMT -4
Hey guys. Sorry for not being as active as usual. My internet was acting stupid so I had to call my ISP to get it fixed and yada yada. I'm gonna read over the last day phase and get back to you.
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Post by fresh on Feb 22, 2014 7:55:35 GMT -4
Activity has hurt this game tremendously.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 22, 2014 10:21:05 GMT -4
Uh, Deas?
So, yeah...
Activity has hurt. I find it hard to think that no one has anything from the night. I mean, I get that no power roles want to out themselves, but with nothing to go on, scum hit or not, we're just going to either wait until the night phase or vote someone and see what happens. I don't want it to come to blind voting, but I don't know if we can go through another no lynch day without knowing what AJP's character is able to do (kill or just block).
From my count there are still 6 or 7 people who need to check in, and of the ones that have, 3 to 4 of those have been posts that just scream of activity posts and nothing more.
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Post by Alex Black on Feb 22, 2014 10:28:36 GMT -4
I've really got nothing, this has been a weird game, and I know I've not been all that active due to work and what not, but I just don't have much to add since nothing has really happened either at night nor during the day, I could sit here and speculate all day, but really I don't think that would get us anywhere.
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Post by Level-Two on Feb 22, 2014 13:16:38 GMT -4
Well, it looks like the flavor is pretty spot on with Terry Marvin being the Sindicate's recruiter.
I disagree with the notion this wasn't a bad night. In a game like this assuming the Mafia can recruit in multiples, the Serial Killer could've actually balanced things out statically. Recruitments themselves are always infinitely worse than night kills, especially if they continue to happen deeper into the game as they pretty much undermine town power roles.
The only observation I can make this far is that of the multiple activity posts AND I find too many people are claiming to be useless at night. Terry Marvin isn't going to load up a game full of vanilla townies, there's some kind of catch.
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Post by Lord Raab on Feb 22, 2014 13:28:36 GMT -4
I got no info from last night. Sorry for the late reply as I was at a wedding yesterday.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 22, 2014 13:40:08 GMT -4
The only observation I can make this far is that of the multiple activity posts AND I find too many people are claiming to be useless at night. Terry Marvin isn't going to load up a game full of vanilla townies, there's some kind of catch. I'd have to agree with this. Marv is the one (I believe) who usually ran the bastard games, so he's not against putting in varying roles. And in a game that, originally, had a mafia and two other anti town/cults, the town isn't going to be filled with vanillas. I wonder if a lot of people simply forgot to send in night actions for two nights. At some point we're going to have to make a move if we hope to nail scum, which probably means finding the best target of the day. Hopefully sooner rather than later or the numbers that every one keeps talking about are going to work against us faster. Of the people that have posted so far this day, I'm looking at Mannie, Last King, Doug and one of Knuckles/Speede as a potential this day. |
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Post by Alex Black on Feb 22, 2014 14:36:41 GMT -4
Thats another reason I've been a bit quieter then I normally am during Mafia Games, I don't really know the flavor, I know some of the people involved I just dont know past story.
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Post by Phil Atken on Feb 22, 2014 15:24:02 GMT -4
So...
Something caught my attention in terms of post.
Fresh has been very good at posting about other people being active in the game but he hasn't actually posting anything APART from posts about others activity.
That's a bit leary to me.
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Post by fresh on Feb 22, 2014 15:27:47 GMT -4
How is one expected to make good reads or even play if everyone who posts just says "sorry I haven't been around" or "my night action got me nothing"?
Some of ya'll are telling the truth and I think some of ya'll are holding back.
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Post by fresh on Feb 22, 2014 15:30:16 GMT -4
With the exception of mod activity, everyday here feels like a day 1.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 22, 2014 15:33:52 GMT -4
I think a lot of people are holding back, because they don't want to out their roles. If they have something, they don't want to come out with it, only to get picked off at night by the scum. I can see not wanting to give up a role, but it just hurts us in the long run. I still feel like it's almost impossible for no one to have had any news to report, good or bad, in the two nights of this game.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 22, 2014 15:38:01 GMT -4
Well, it looks like the flavor is pretty spot on with Terry Marvin being the Sindicate's recruiter. Is he, though? Looking at the write up, it reads to me like Marvin confronted Chambers, but Chambers didn't commit to joining until Level One spoke up. I might be alone here, but it would seem more like the Level One character is the recruiter then TMarv. |
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Post by Reaver on Feb 22, 2014 15:51:31 GMT -4
With the exception of mod activity, everyday here feels like a day 1. then maybe u would care to share anything u might have? |
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Post by Phil Atken on Feb 22, 2014 15:57:10 GMT -4
How is one expected to make good reads or even play if everyone who posts just says "sorry I haven't been around" or "my night action got me nothing"? Some of ya'll are telling the truth and I think some of ya'll are holding back. Yet all you've really done is point fingers at people to post more than discuss much beyond that. Yes it's a quiet game but you've still basically done nothing but project onto others without a contribution of your own, which is p. scum-like. |
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Post by fresh on Feb 22, 2014 17:32:44 GMT -4
How is one expected to make good reads or even play if everyone who posts just says "sorry I haven't been around" or "my night action got me nothing"? Some of ya'll are telling the truth and I think some of ya'll are holding back. Yet all you've really done is point fingers at people to post more than discuss much beyond that. Yes it's a quiet game but you've still basically done nothing but project onto others without a contribution of your own, which is p. scum-like. There is a difference between pointing fingers at someone who you think is scum and just saying "hey get active!" I have done the ladder not the former. FOS: Reaver for fishing at me. Nevertheless, I'll give more than you have. There is a roleblocker in this game. I've only had one successful night action. I can know what a role is but I don't know the affiliation (town/scum) of who has it. |
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Post by fresh on Feb 22, 2014 17:34:12 GMT -4
EBWOP
Also I probably won't be back til morning. But in my attempts at garnering activity, I've at least tried to get some discussion going, something neither of you have done other than call me out for questioning the activity of the game.
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Post by Speede on Feb 22, 2014 18:13:58 GMT -4
Looking at what Fresh said, I'm very curious if anyone else has my same train of thought...
To me, it feels like Fresh is hinting Role Cop, a typically-scum role, maybe with an odd or even night implication, and specifies there's a roleblocker because either he has roleblocking the nights he can't role cop or because another scum player has roleblocker. For me, what Fresh said just sounds strange, and I think it was a risk he decided to take because he knew outing information would look pro-town, even though what he said hints at is, likely, a scum role.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 22, 2014 18:20:18 GMT -4
He could be. I mean, he claims that he can find out what someones role is but not the affiliation, which would be role cop. I was more intrigued by the fact that he made the obvious claim that there's a roleblocker in the game. It's mafia, there's bound to be at least one in a game of mafia, isn't there?
That and he's claiming Knuckles hasn't incited any discussion when he has had a decent (for this game) back and forth with you, Speede...
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Post by Phil Atken on Feb 22, 2014 19:24:24 GMT -4
Really, blurting out night information after some spotlight runs your way just raises my suspicions.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Feb 22, 2014 22:04:47 GMT -4
This is the way I'm seeing things.
We don't have nearly enough information to confidently lynch someone this day phase, which is pretty unfortunate. Barring one of our power roles striking gold this night phase, we'll be behind the 8-ball even further after it ends.
These are the anti-town hunches I have.
- Madison. His claim of us needing to wait things out still reeks of stall tactics that would only serve to benefit the scum in this game. Also, since that post, he's largely been quiet, which is sort of suspicious.
- Level-One. L1 is usually one of the most vocal, "take charge" players in these games when he's town. He's made just one post this day phase, and hasn't partaken in any sort of scum-hunting. Plus, with the lack of information (or even misinformation) coming to the surface so far this game, it seems like there's a veteran guiding the scum team, and L1 certainly fits the bill.
- Mannie. His one "hi there" post saying absolutely nothing implies he may know more than he's letting on. After being called out earlier this day phase, he's gone radio silent.
I have nothing against Fresh, for now. We all think the lack of activity/information is very unfortunate; he's just vocalizing it. Ditto for Gates, though he's actually been MORE active in this game than in prior ones, which doesn't make much sense.
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Post by Chris Madison on Feb 22, 2014 23:36:23 GMT -4
since that post, he's largely been quiet, which is sort of suspicious. Yeah a RP deadline kind of snuck up on me. This game is tough because no one really seems to have much information. Those who do aren't coming forward. So all we have to base on is spats over who's post sounds goofy and a handful of people basically just checking in with the Manilla excuse of "been busy, nothing to report..." We really can't afford to let the numbers swing in the anti-town favor. Not voting could be just as bad as voting wrong. I just wish we had more to go on. I think we need to take a serious look at who's skating by in this game, not really contributing at all... |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 23, 2014 0:55:01 GMT -4
Rebel, Deas/Hollywood, Callahan and Fury are the only ones left to check in this day phase. If we're looking at people skating by, and with us not being able to formulate much of a plan, some of the quiet ones could be part of the scum, choosing to lay low. Raab, Mannie and Last King have only really posted to say "hi, I'm going to do this but really I'm just going to make sure I don't get mod killed".
That's still a lot of names to really take a look at. In a game of what? 15 people, nearly half are either inactive/skating by or activity posting/skating by. It seems like we're in kind of a spot where we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. If we lynch someone who is not scum/anti town, we screwed up. If we lynch no one, we just show the anti-town folk that we're content to just sit back and let things happen.
I am going to sleep on things tonight, and will have a vote tomorrow.
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Post by Brian Hollywood on Feb 23, 2014 1:47:35 GMT -4
hey guys, officially checking in!
I'll read over the entire thread and give my thoughts on everything.
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