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Post by Reaver on Feb 23, 2014 4:07:26 GMT -4
Yet all you've really done is point fingers at people to post more than discuss much beyond that. Yes it's a quiet game but you've still basically done nothing but project onto others without a contribution of your own, which is p. scum-like. There is a difference between pointing fingers at someone who you think is scum and just saying "hey get active!" I have done the ladder not the former. FOS: Reaver for fishing at me. Nevertheless, I'll give more than you have. There is a roleblocker in this game. I've only had one successful night action. I can know what a role is but I don't know the affiliation (town/scum) or who has it. unvotevote: freshthanx for pointing out the obvious doug, way to participate theres always been 2 roleblockers in every apw mafia game since i been here. if u feel u have to vote for me or fos me feel free idc, when i flip town ill laugh all thru the dead QT at u. so explain to me how that lil tidbit of info was more than i have again? seriously? plz? LOL wat i said wasnt fishing at u, it was sarcasm for the comment i quoted in the former since u were wanting activity but have shown little of it urself. now moving forward.... i believe gates to b town. this isnt based off any info or nite action, just experience. i remembered last game with gates when we were both scum, he was very quiet. the fact that he is more active leads me to inquire him to be town aligned. now again, there is no fact behind this just an observation. also, y is L-O still alive? usually he is a nite 1, nite 2 (maybe) insta-kill cuz of his high experience. also agreeing with the "he is usually more vocal" comment....
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Post by Lord Raab on Feb 23, 2014 4:49:37 GMT -4
I wish I had more info Gates, but without no night action, I'm completely useless this time around.
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 23, 2014 10:23:31 GMT -4
VOTE COUNT: Doug E. Fresh - 1 (Johnny Knuckles)
DEADLINE Monday 2/24 at 10:00 am
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Post by fresh on Feb 23, 2014 10:44:28 GMT -4
Before you start getting all aggressive on me Knux, this is only my second mafia game at APW so saying things like 'there's always this and this here' doesn't mean anything to me.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 23, 2014 11:38:48 GMT -4
Could go a few ways here. Could go with an inactive and try and get the game more active while voting blindly because there's nothing to go off or vote for someone who has been active and potentially hurt the game more. However, the Envi modkill shows me that the mod is more willing to punish people who don't do anything.
So my vote comes down to Atken and Fresh.
Atken because he said there was a recruit hinted at when it was pretty blatant. I know why it was laid out that way from Atken, but when a name goes green to red, you can be pretty sure there's a recruit. The only other things that are ringing bells for him are his willingness to point out Speede as scum (albeit probably jokingly) and point a finger (unofficially) at Doug yet never laying a vote on either of them.
My suspicion of Doug comes from what he's said. He said there's a roleblocker, which is pretty much a given. He calls people out for not being active, and then mentions he's the only guy who has a night result (from either night) but doesn't share it. Then there was:
I think I get what he means, but thing is, pointing fingers could help bring out some activity and could actually lead towards hunting down someone, while just telling people to get active doesn't really do that. At least to me.
Vote: Doug E. Fresh
Is it the best to go off of? Probably not, but really it's either looking at what people have said or going with someone you know won't fight back. Not that it will matter. I doubt there's enough activity to reach a lynch.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Feb 23, 2014 12:22:22 GMT -4
Could go a few ways here. Could go with an inactive and try and get the game more active while voting blindly because there's nothing to go off or vote for someone who has been active and potentially hurt the game more. However, the Envi modkill shows me that the mod is more willing to punish people who don't do anything. So my vote comes down to Atken and Fresh. Atken because he said there was a recruit hinted at when it was pretty blatant. I know why it was laid out that way from Atken, but when a name goes green to red, you can be pretty sure there's a recruit. The only other things that are ringing bells for him are his willingness to point out Speede as scum (albeit probably jokingly) and point a finger (unofficially) at Doug yet never laying a vote on either of them. My suspicion of Doug comes from what he's said. He said there's a roleblocker, which is pretty much a given. He calls people out for not being active, and then mentions he's the only guy who has a night result (from either night) but doesn't share it. Then there was: I think I get what he means, but thing is, pointing fingers could help bring out some activity and could actually lead towards hunting down someone, while just telling people to get active doesn't really do that. At least to me. Vote: Doug E. FreshIs it the best to go off of? Probably not, but really it's either looking at what people have said or going with someone you know won't fight back. Not that it will matter. I doubt there's enough activity to reach a lynch. What else do you expect Doug to do? Talk to himself? Voting to lynch Doug for trying to encourage activity which would ultimately hurt the Mafia is a red flag and a half.
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Post by Level-Two on Feb 23, 2014 14:28:45 GMT -4
Sorry, not voting.
We have at least a cop, a doctor, a watcher and a tracker. If we think Fresh is scum then let the night actions do the talking; same goes for anyone who thinks I am suspicious for not ''leading'' the town this game.
Unfortunately, there is NOTHING for me to lead.
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Post by Gordon Fury on Feb 23, 2014 15:43:21 GMT -4
After reading everything over, I won't be voting either. While not voting COULD be as bad as voting wrong, in my eyes there isn't NEARLY enough evidence to vote out Doug at this stage. I know in general we don't really have anything, but without at least a concrete gut feeling I'm not willing to lynch for the sake of a lynch.
Mannie probably sticks out to me the most, but that skating by reasoning could be applied to me just as easily, and I know I'm town, so at this stage its not enough for me to put down a vote.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 23, 2014 18:01:07 GMT -4
Hey, by all means. If you guys all want to go into night three without doing anything in this game except sitting back waiting to be recruited or killed, then great. There's nothing to go off of and we probably won't have the votes to get a lynch anyways.
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Post by fresh on Feb 23, 2014 18:28:07 GMT -4
If I'm not mistaken, only Rebel hasn't checked in yet this day phase.
I agree that we're likely not going to hit lynch by deadline. If I were to vote, the scummiest play based on people actually posting is Knux and that is my opinion. He's drawn suspicion from others and he was fishing at me and was quite quick to be defensive.
However I give him credit as he's hard to judge. I don't want to base my play on past games.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Feb 24, 2014 0:13:31 GMT -4
Well I tell you what. I will guarantee that something will happen tonight.
(For those not familiar, when I play mafia, "today" means "this day phase," "tonight" means the oncoming night phase, "tomorrow" means the day phase after that, and so on with relevant combinations there of. Not sure if I'd used any of those yet, but that's how I role.
Typo intended)
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Post by Speede on Feb 24, 2014 1:18:48 GMT -4
Well I tell you what. I will guarantee that something will happen tonight. (For those not familiar, when I play mafia, "today" means "this day phase," "tonight" means the oncoming night phase, "tomorrow" means the day phase after that, and so on with relevant combinations there of. Not sure if I'd used any of those yet, but that's how I role. Typo intended) I wanna lynch you just based off that terrible pun. Like, seriously, what the hell man? Also, it looks like we're too late for a lynch this day phase, but my vote right now is either with Mannie or with Fresh, so... Vote: Fresh
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Post by Level-Two on Feb 24, 2014 2:07:06 GMT -4
Hey, by all means. If you guys all want to go into night three without doing anything in this game except sitting back waiting to be recruited or killed, then great. There's nothing to go off of and we probably won't have the votes to get a lynch anyways. It isn't that simple. We have ALL of our power roles still - a mis lynch could potentially take one of them out. Not that it matters at this point seeing as it won't happen but in general, blind lynches typically equals bad gameplay. Mafia would love a no lynch but I am sure they would love a mislynch even better.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 24, 2014 10:06:32 GMT -4
Well, you assume we have all of our power roles. There's no telling what role Chambers had, so we could have lost his power role.
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 24, 2014 11:45:19 GMT -4
That is the end of the night...
NO LYNCH
(writeup to come)
24 hours for night actions. VOTE COUNT: Doug E. Fresh - 4 (Johnny Knuckles, CJ Gates, speede )
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 25, 2014 15:03:25 GMT -4
night is over.
Will have the write up soon.
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Post by Reaver on Feb 27, 2014 15:52:19 GMT -4
night is over. Will have the write up soon. hope terry is ok, prolly just got backed up....
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 27, 2014 19:08:28 GMT -4
Sorry guys. Had no internet and doing the writeup from the phone was a pain (plus I kept losing connectivity.) We're coming back soon.
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 28, 2014 0:44:10 GMT -4
Writeup coming... but let's get this thing going folks. (Again, so sorry for the delay... it's been a couple of days, let me tell you what.)
DEAD - Level One James Chambers - Recruited Lie Detector (3x) DEAD - The Main Attraction Evan Envi - Mafia Silencer / Double Usurper
RECRUITED - Pence Weatherlight
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 28, 2014 0:44:44 GMT -4
Day Starts Now... 72 hr deadline.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Feb 28, 2014 0:58:31 GMT -4
Checking in. Happy to see two out of my three hunches were right, though I can honestly say I had nothing to do with their respective demises. To whoever did, well done!
For now, I think it's best to wait for the write-up so we can see how, exactly, the two scum characters were killed.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Feb 28, 2014 1:24:54 GMT -4
I told you something would happen. But, like Smith, damn am I glad it went well, as it could easily have gone so much worse.
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Post by Reaver on Feb 28, 2014 4:19:36 GMT -4
I told you something would happen. But, like Smith, damn am I glad it went well, as it could easily have gone so much worse. Seems to me like u no something...net is down prolly til tomorrow so im on my fone:( Ironically its also a clue as to whom my legend is
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 28, 2014 6:23:54 GMT -4
We've been getting pretty lucky in these night phases. I know there's people who will claim it's still not good because people are getting recruited, but we haven't lost any townies to modkills/night kills, so that's a plus. Will be interesting to see how those two died, though. Might mean the AJP character is more then just a blocker or something.
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Post by Reaver on Feb 28, 2014 11:02:06 GMT -4
heres an odd theory, do u think that somebody has to die in order for a new recruit to be made? and the goal is to just have more? that sounds like a terry marvin game where a sacrifice must be made in order to recruit for the next nite.
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Post by fresh on Feb 28, 2014 13:19:00 GMT -4
heres an odd theory, do u think that somebody has to die in order for a new recruit to be made? and the goal is to just have more? that sounds like a terry marvin game where a sacrifice must be made in order to recruit for the next nite. So basically its not really recruiting. Its like blocking someone that day and then killing them that night to get someone else the next?
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Post by Reaver on Feb 28, 2014 13:39:57 GMT -4
well we wont know for sure until next day phase
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Post by A.C. Smith on Feb 28, 2014 13:49:08 GMT -4
I'm not entirely sure I buy Knucks's theory. L-1 was one of the veteran players in this game. Why recruit him just to kill him?
Again, I'm waiting on the write-up to draw any firm conclusions.
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Post by Reaver on Feb 28, 2014 13:53:59 GMT -4
again, its a theory and the theory includes having a sacrifice. maybe its willing? it doesnt say modkill (which i dont think he has ever done) i really wanna see this write up....
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Post by C.J. Gates on Feb 28, 2014 14:37:54 GMT -4
Are you saying that the mafia has to sacrifice one of their own to be able to recruit, or anyone in general within the game? Because if it's anyone, it makes no sense why they would sacrifice two of their own just to get one more. If you're alluding to them being able to recruit someone after they've sacrificed one of their own, they were able to recruit Chambers with Envi being the only one dead...
I guess that's my long winded way of saying that, as of now, I don't buy into the sacrifice theory, at least not until the write up is posted. If there is no write up posted, well, then we'll never know.
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