Killing people now?

[The Paragon of Hardcore]

When did killing people become a viable way of roleplaying? Why is this acceptable? Are the powers that be just not reading roleplays? That's the only thing I can think of. Back in WWC (also one of Jeff's feds), Kenny Lambardo shot Tony Blackwell in the leg and there was a massive backlash from Jeff and the voters and all the roleplayers in WWC (and this was with the fact that Tony Blackwell gave Kenny prior permission for him to do that).

Now I know that Trevor and Tabitha just maimed Sabur and that was pushing the envelope quite a bit...

But did you guys read the boards? In the last month, Link killed someone and both Rick "The Dick" Stevens and Streets Wilson became mass murderers. What the fuck? Why is this acceptable? Why aren't their roleplays being deemed inadmissable just like Kenny's was back in WWC?

I'm not trying to sabotage Link, Stevens, or Streets. Out of character, I'm a rather big fan of all three...

Alright, maybe not of Link....

But something's gotta be done.

What happened to the Rules List, Jeff?

[The Paragon of Hardcore]

As a matter of fact, my girl just brought this to my attention. This is Rule Number 5 on the APW Rules that President Jeff posted on the Information Board:

5. Make roleplays realistic, no flying around, shooting fans with machine guns or being 100 feet tall.

Is it now ok to kill people without shooting them?

If that's the case, I'm killing Phil in my next roleplay.

[President Jeff]

Once I get that match from you, and get results posted (Which is my #1 focus right now) then I'll get back to you about this

[Rick Stevens]

Rick Stevens never directly killed anyone in my role play. There were only references to him possibly having killed people in the past.

["The Hottest Shit Going"]

Yeah you big old heel...Rick's shit seem to hint at it which got my attention and made me laugh. WHen that ladies chair brke and she went flying out of the window provving it was all coinky dinks...fuck I just said coinky dinks.

I didn't read Link's or Streets, and I am a fan of them from a distance...missed the killing part, but being a man that pushes the line of reality at times I'm not sure if this guy Rick is in harm with his...maybe the others...yeah in fact fuck the others...cause Link wants Lively's balls in his mouth, and Steets just took his tag title...so fuck them up Jeff....dirty rule breakers...but leave the Dick alone. It is proved that attacking a Dick with any sort of hostility will on result in said Dick spitting in your face out of his one eye....HA!

[Link]

Why do you bitch so much?

First of all, Link hasn't killed anyone in the past month. If you read my RP carefully, he tricked a women into believing she was going to die by drugs and that she had killed him by gunshot, but it was just a ploy to get her off of his case and to make her feel good about her quest to get revenge on Link for him beating up her husband. NOONE ACTUALLY DIES! Yes, her husband was badly beaten and I may have implied him being seriously traumatized or even passing weeks later but that was merely set up to create the "revenge" angle I was writing for this woman against Link. And that RP was written awhile ago, and at the time I was lacking direction and wanted to capture certain elements of the character.

Link has serious mental issues and disorders clearly hinted at in his last rp. He wants to do good, but sometimes things click and he commits horrible acts as featured in the past. Very realistic. Also mentioned in my recent RP, being in wrestling/fighting organizations such as this one tend to influence Link to do bad things or become mentally unstable, which is why is brother and sister have disowned him for said profession. Its the basis for the conflicted character.

At the end of the day its CREATIVE WRITING. So...why so serious?

[Link]

And Wacko wants your balls Lively, I just like your eyes.

[BDC]

Why this couldn't have been brought up via a pm to Jeff is beyond me.

Personaly, as long as a character doesn't kill any of the roster members, or any of their personal creations (background people in their roleplays) then I can't see the problem.

Ah well, same old same old in the world of efedding

[BDC]

Probably best to just drop it now I think and leave Jeff deal with it.

The people concerned have said their piece on the matter, so let's just look forward to the results. At the end of the day, this is just a silly little game that we enjoy playing, and it's really not worth getting stressed over - trust me! Been there, done that, it ain't fun.

[Link]

you are right. I deleted my last post. I'm sorry I got worked up.

[Twister]

I didnt notice anything that bad. All I agree with is streets killing and what not, but that doesnt even bother me - he more less reminds me of a power rangers episode... So its cool. I dont see the issue but the boss will Im sure have the last word in this one.

[Streets Wilson]

I wasn't aware it was actually in the rulebook that you couldn't kill somebody in your RP, and if i did i probably wouldn't of done it... so many times. But lets be honest here, and let me put it this way in defense of my character: when Vince Mcmahon had Stone Cold arrested that time... that wasn't real. Professional wrestling is all about over the top characters, and taking things a little overboard. People get "jumped in the locker rooms" and nearly get their legs ripped off with knives... but the childish morbid comedy of Streets Wilson is taboo?

But uh... on the down-low, i was kind of pushing it on that last RP most likely due to a lack of any other ideas except throwing a poisoned throwing star into random security guards. ... I had this whole huge thing that was supposed to play out with Streets and the kids interacting but I just couldn't find the time to actually put it into words.. But you also gotta realize, the only reason i ever watched wrestling in the first place was the NWO. And if anyone can remember the shit they used to do, it was REVOLUTIONARY to me.



for some reason they dont show the most important part when the NWO smashes the ambulance that the Rock is in with a fucking huge truck... but you get the picture

[Dr. Matt]

Or like when JBL tried to decapitate John Cena with a car, but SuperCena only got "nicked", or something like that.

[The Paragon of Hardcore]

Did I miss something? When did BDC become a champion?

[CinderellaLies]

Didn't Link decapitate someone?

I don't think this was bitching as much as clarifying. Because if we are allowed to kill NPC's, there are alot more places we could go with storylines. We are all a bunch of crazy fucks, not just Link. So is this allowed?

[The Paragon of Hardcore]

Ok... for the record, I wasn't bitching. Like Tabitha said, if we're allowed to go that extreme in our roleplays, I just want to know because I could have a lot of fun with that. But what I don't understand is that Trevor Blackwell and Tabitha Crowley were arrested and put in prison for Grand Theft and Assault but Murder is ok...

[Level-Two]

Didn't Link decapitate someone?

I don't think this was bitching as much as clarifying. Because if we are allowed to kill NPC's, there are alot more places we could go with storylines. We are all a bunch of crazy fucks, not just Link. So is this allowed?

Really, it's all down to the writer. Death's in roleplays that aren't built up, aren't intresting whats-so-ever. You claim you could go '' alot more places with storylines'' by using the death effect, while this maybe true depending on how you look at it, it doesn't make it anymore intresting than what you are probably doing in roleplays right now.

Death's aren't groundbreaking. They aren't shocking. There is so many ways to tell a story with-out having somebody die. Have I had NPC's killed off myself? Yes. Their deaths though, have been built up for months at a time--and there deaths are NOT the climax of my roleplays/stories/writtens, and they've never died by my hands.

I like to keep things semi-realistic, I think we all should for that matter. I say semi-realistic, because at the same time you need to allow your imagination to run free. Fuck the ''efedding'' fundementals, don't be afraid to step out the locker room door; this isn't the WWE. But it isn't mortal combat either.

Links character is sadistic. He writes wonderfully well. So even if he was to ''kill'' someone, it's not going to give him an edge over someone who didn't. It isn't going to put him at a disadvantage either. It's going to be judged like a roleplay is; based on quality and relevance.

We are desensitized by death, so it really doesn't even work in the end. It's not something that stands out. However; the bigger connection an auidence feels, the less often it happens; the more important it becomes. It's all about the way it's written, and it's build.

Now, I'm sure I have gotten off topic. I probably even took what you've said out of context. I see two ways in which you could've meant that statement, but I've chosen the ladder.

If you aren't doing death now, just stay away from it. In my own opinion, if it's something you haven't done, then it doesn't work for your character. I've known Link for sometime now, and his work has pushed the boundaries like this for as long as I can remember--it compliments him as a writer, and it fits with his character.

I'm not trying to re-ignite the situation, but I personally love discussions like this. They are valid, and they all need to be discussed in a mature manner. If we are open about it; it's not an issue.

[BDC]

Plug plug BDC Vs Jesse Nunez feud in EWC.

Jesse killed BDC's brother, and I went along with the storyline, which probably ended up being my best work ever.

Personaly, I think the best way to deal with an issue that your opponent has put in his/her rp is to go with it and implement it in your own rps.

You'd be surprised what the outcome is.

[CinderellaLies]

It's true, some of the best work comes from taking something from your opponent and validating it in your own RP's. And killing does work for Link very well. Partly because he is a great roleplayer, and partly because he writes his own backlash and doesn't pretend there aren't consequences. (Like that whole scene where he let that woman "kill" him).

I guess if it works for you and you can pull it off, go for it. If it's better for storyline to stop just short, murder isn't the only thing that can be built up or punishable. (Like Phil having an order of protection against the Blackwells or Trevor and Tabitha going to jail for theft and assault).

As long as no one is offended by it, I supposed its not a problem and can add spice and drama to the roleplays as long as they are written correctly.