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Post by Level-Two on Aug 12, 2011 16:08:09 GMT -4
I'm not buying Harvey as scum. Jester, maybe, but not scum. Even Harvey isn't dumb enough to kill someone that he had suspicions about the day before. And if he's the Jester, voting for him doesn't make any sense, either. Unless someone has information about him that proves he's not. Kinda like how Blade wasn't dumb enough to claim he had a role (can't recall what it was) that confirmed Johnny Rebel was 100% scum, got him lynched, he was town--and then nobody thought blade was ''dumb'' enough to claim he had a role that didn't really exist in the game? Blade was mafia and they won. It's funny how everyone thinks he's a jester--yet, wasn't night killed. And mafia couldn't find out whether or not branden was a jester because any information from night actions are received during the start of the second day phase. So it's IMPOSSIBLE for mafia (which james ''thinks'' I am) to know anything about Branden before the night kill was done. If you don't lynch him today, he'll be alive again tomorrow because he's scum hiding under the guise of a jester. He's playing over the top on PURPOSE; so killing JC and then proceeding to have what I perceive to be a scum buddy (and at least one more to come) rush in and blame me (their target on day one) makes 100% sense. I read back and even saw the pre-scripting on James part, planting the seeds beforehand.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Aug 12, 2011 16:16:34 GMT -4
VOTE: Harvey
I been saying it was him so this is just when the wall comes down. He's the fastest to reply, points nothing but fingers. Harvey is Guilty. Of something...
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Post by Blade on Aug 12, 2011 16:17:08 GMT -4
Usually
Jeff or Branden are NK'ed night 1.
Branden a Jester? He tried to pin me as a jester day 1 and it didnt work. So if he was a jester he would try and be lynched day 1 (thats usually how that role works)
Notice how Sally is still alive? Yeah, take out the strong players first.
Taking me out would be stupid because my role actually helps scum.
CJ, Sally and possibly Branden are apart of the scum team.
Gut feeling because thats all I have
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Post by Level-Two on Aug 12, 2011 16:18:55 GMT -4
EWOP
A second scenerio is that Branden Harvey is a jester; but the MAFIA is trying to keep them alive a little longer in attempt to to take out other people they know are town, in hopes of snuffing out town aligned power roles. We should keep that in mind as well. It boggles my mind how branden harvey wasn't killed; unless he was Mafia. I'd be on a look out on how people go about defending branden harvey, be it because Branden is their scum buddy or simply preserve their gold lynch nugget in the game to keep us all scrambling amongst ourselves.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Aug 12, 2011 17:37:36 GMT -4
Kinda like how Blade wasn't dumb enough to claim he had a role (can't recall what it was) that confirmed Johnny Rebel was 100% scum, got him lynched, he was town--and then nobody thought blade was ''dumb'' enough to claim he had a role that didn't really exist in the game? Blade was mafia and they won. It's funny how everyone thinks he's a jester--yet, wasn't night killed. And mafia couldn't find out whether or not branden was a jester because any information from night actions are received during the start of the second day phase. So it's IMPOSSIBLE for mafia (which james ''thinks'' I am) to know anything about Branden before the night kill was done. If you don't lynch him today, he'll be alive again tomorrow because he's scum hiding under the guise of a jester. He's playing over the top on PURPOSE; so killing JC and then proceeding to have what I perceive to be a scum buddy (and at least one more to come) rush in and blame me (their target on day one) makes 100% sense. I read back and even saw the pre-scripting on James part, planting the seeds beforehand. That is true...You make a good case to vote for him. He hasn't screamed scum to me, or at least not more than in other games where he's town, but I'm going to trust you on this one. Vote: Branden Harvey
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Post by President Jeff on Aug 12, 2011 18:09:31 GMT -4
Vote Count
Branden - 4 Level One - 1
Not Voting
Pence, Sally, Rebel, Blade, Stephan, Biggs and Branden
12 Alive, takes 7 votes to Lynch
Deadline is Sunday @ 9pm EST
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Post by biggs on Aug 12, 2011 19:39:22 GMT -4
Vote: Branden Harvey
Wh-what happens when a pastor eats too many chili-dogs?
He si-si-sits in his own pew!
What d-d-duh-DUH-does Branden Harvey do when he acts to suspicious?
He gets lynched!
That last one wasn't supposed to be a joke.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Aug 12, 2011 20:56:14 GMT -4
So you guys are actually wanting to vote out a possible Jester so they win, is that right? COME ON! Use your brains. They kept Harvey around to get an easy lynch this day phase. That much is obvious. I'm not voting Harvey because A) he could be a jester (more than could , probably is one) and b) I smell a set up. I'm going to go with a gut read from a post this day phase instead. Vote: LesterThere's your scum. I'm thinking that Harvey isn't a Jester but has a PR and this is the one player who's really pushing to get him out. Why? Because he probably knows he is town. I think Harvey has to be aggitated with his posts which could be multiple characters. I'm going on record as stating I am voting for Lester because I think he is Cartman. Harvey's the fall guy for a quick lynch hence why I'm voting the other way. So you believe that the Mafia (only people that can eliminate a Jester) kept Harvey around even though he is likely a Jester more then any other, so that they could get a easy lynch. Harvey was the easy lynch, he's suspicious, he's plain out bad news for both the town and the mafia. So why exactly will the Mafia eliminate a townie, while the the man that has Jester written all over his face and could potentially cost everybody the game by one simple lynch keep him around. if Harvey's not mafia, I think it would have been a win win elimination for the Mafia. They would have either eliminate a Townie (which would be the easy elimination you're talking about) or they would have eliminate the Jester and save the game for everybody. But no they either a bunch of idiots to not get raid of the potential Jester (and even if he wasn't and he's not a scum, he would be a townie again win win for The Mafia) or they know damn well why they got rad of JC instead of Harvey and that easy answer is Harvey is a Mafia. So what you need to do is think that out. Harvey is either Jester so if we the town lynch him this game is probably lost, but hey The Mafia is to blame for that, should have killed him off from the get go. Or Harvey is Mafia! I will be shock if he is anything else different and will be the first to admit I was wrong. But I think none of us can dispute that the guy does not seem to be a Townie. set up or not, he pointed finger at JC and two others and behold JC was a townie. So what I'm saying is take him out if he's Jester, game over. If he turns out as mafia, damn good move by us the town for that lynch. If he's townie, we still have enough to win this game, I think we should then look at th situation we're in and maybe even the remaining two on Harvey's list it's that simple. quite frankly his first prediction failed, along with that he's been acting like not a townie. So what exactly does it take to eliminate somebody that is obviously suspicious? And then move on.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Aug 12, 2011 21:02:02 GMT -4
Forgot. lol
Vote: Harvey
And yes I too I'm surprise that JamesV comes out and suddenly stand by the most suspicious person of the game so far. Even after his prediction came out wrong. With the excuse of "Set U"! I agree with Lester. Mafia always have a buddy and this time I think we have it right. James V might MIGHT be that buddy.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Aug 12, 2011 21:08:46 GMT -4
We can solve this easily - whoever has the ability to investigate Harvey can do so during the night night phase and we can find out one way or another, right?
I tend to lean more of him being scum than anything but it would be nice to know a little more intel on him before we end our own game.
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Post by Level-Two on Aug 12, 2011 21:13:18 GMT -4
Good point, Rebel. However, upon thinking about it further; I highly doubt PJ put a jester in this game. He said A) that this game wouldn't be too complicated and Jester is an extremly rare role. B) This is the first game PJ has moded; I doubt he'd want to end with a lame Jester role that punishes otherwise good gameplay, not mention Jesters usually need to be lynched day one so the game is somewhat balanced.
We can take caution with this; but ultimately if branden is mafia, we're going to lose another townsperson and perhaps one with a good role to help us out further in this game.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 12, 2011 21:36:17 GMT -4
So automatically Lester thinks I'm scum because I'm not buying what he's selling? Yeah, and pigs can fly. The fact is I'm not following any sheepherders this game and the bottom line is I think Harvey is too easy of a lynch hence why he wasn't nightkilled if in fact he is not scum. Last day phase I said I thought Harvey or Lester was scum. I've come to the conclusion that Lester is the scum out of the two.
As far as me "planting the seeds" I'm just telling it like it and if you don't like it tough shit because I'm going to continue to do it. I'm flat out saying this whole thing reeks of a set up for an easy quick lynch and that's exactly what's happening. Also a Jester IS NOT a rare role. I've seen it AT LEAST 10 times in games so that makes it more common than most roles so don't give me this crap about it being rare. That's just a cop out to the fact that it is in fact a common role. A Sensor is more of a rare role. Jester role on the other hand is more common and seen more often in games.
Also just because someone that was killed turned out to be a townie and Harvey said they were suspicious IS NOT a valid reason for voting for him. That's like me saying "I think Sally is scum" and if she comes up town everyone voting me out for having that opinion. What a crock. I'm sticking to my guns on this one. I think Harvey is a Jester and will not be voting for him because it's stupid to just hand a jester the win just to get rid of them when it's clear that the player either is a jester or has a PR. Use some common sense, people. It's obvious what's really going on right now. It's a set up and Harvey is the fall guy. If Harvey comes up anything other than scum it's obvious who to go after day three.
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Post by Level-Two on Aug 12, 2011 22:02:03 GMT -4
So you post your response basically ignoring all the points that you were challenged on not only by me but Stephan Hart too?
Again, if it's so obvious Branden Harvey is a jester-- why is he still alive? You're telling me three people couldn't come together and decide that getting Branden out first was the best move for the game?
And no, I don't think you're scum just because you don't ''buy'' what I am ''selling''; I think your scum because you like Harvey blatantly came out and not only declared that I am scum but that I am Mafia godfather Cartman as well. Of course, like Harvey-- you have NOTHING to work with that backs that statement up and I know this because I am not Cartman, nor am I scum.
Thus, you become suspicious in my eyes as being a scummer for making bold claims you cannot back up, claims that have already been laughed at when I challenged branden harvey and all he could do is whisper in response to it.
Not to mention, your post was hypocritical as you tried to tell us how stupid it is to lynch branden harvey who you believe is a jester; meanwhile claim I didn't night kill him because he's an easy lynch during the day, lol.
So, let's just get you on record here. You think I know that Branden Harvey isn't a jester, but a townie; and I want to lynch him, correct?
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Post by brandenharvey on Aug 12, 2011 22:15:40 GMT -4
You guys really want to be resposible for the death of Christ?
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Post by Stephan Hart on Aug 12, 2011 22:40:19 GMT -4
And this guy suppose to be innocent? Are you kidding me? HARVEY IS NOT A TOWNIE. - That goes for you JamesV.
Now you might be terrified to vote for him and he turns out to be a Jester. You might be scared to lose this game. But I'm not scared of losing this game early. It's fun I like South Park, I actually got a great role in this game (sorry no investigative powers) but Harvey got to go. Jester or Mafia! I'm leaning towards Mafia and he's really hanging on in hopes that last vote thinks he's a Jester and is scared to vote for him. If he's a Jester well he's blatantly pointing that out. Not even trying to convince himself that he's a townie, less yet the rest of the players of this game.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Aug 12, 2011 22:43:25 GMT -4
Oh by the way I know that South Park got Jesus Christ in it. Would be funny if he's Christ. But Christ should have gotten JC correct as townie.
Also there is no way he has immortality, if that's actually possible in this game, which I believe it is. Since anything is possible.
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Post by brandenharvey on Aug 12, 2011 22:52:51 GMT -4
I'm Jesus. The town healer.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 12, 2011 22:58:32 GMT -4
I'm Jesus. The town healer. It would be hilarious if you just actually roleclaimed and got modkilled because of it.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 12, 2011 23:28:34 GMT -4
Lester, I'm saying that you most likely are Cartman, if not you're aligned with him. Long story short I think you are scum. Can't phrase it any better than that. As far as backing it up that you are Cartman you have NO EVIDENCE Harvey is scum either yet have the gall to call me a hypocrite. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. You're ALSO making bold claims that you can't back up so does that make you a scummer too? DOES IT? I repeat DOES IT? Because from what I've seen everything you're doing are the same things you're getting on my case about doing. I never said you didn't night kill him either. There's most likely 3 scums in this game so it takes more than just one to make a decision. The fact that that didn't cross your mind has me suspicious. And to answer your question yes I think you know Harvey is a townie and want to lynch him because it will be an easy lynch. I'm going on the record as stating that.
Hart, did it even cross your mind that he has a Post Restriction? Has that crossed anybody's mind but mine? I think he has a PR which is why I'm not sold on voting for him plus add to it the jester possibility. There's 12 people in this game and I'm certain 7 will vote for him but I still think it's a set up by the scum to get an easy lynch.
Harvey, do you have a post restriction? For some reason I'm getting a sarcastic Stan or Kyle vibe from it.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Aug 12, 2011 23:31:43 GMT -4
So now your claiming to be a 'Doctor'?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you have yet to explain yourself as to why exactly you claim JC was Mafia. I asked you earlier, and you have yet to answer that question?
You're so called claim as Christ and Healer, makes a little sense now. Quite frankly I was wondering who would get to role as Doctor and Officer in this game, because truly I don't remember seeing a main person as an Officer and Doctor in SP. I'm somewhat new to SP, but I think I can say that there is no main character that is a Doctor in south park, which makes Christ as the Towns healer sense. Now you're either desperate or you're telling the truth.
Quite frankly for the first time since I claimed you're a Jester, I feel you as a town in your last comment. But I still don't trust you.
For now....
Unvote: Harvey
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 12, 2011 23:32:12 GMT -4
Got my role. I hate you all. vote: everyoneAlso this sounds an awful lot like Cartman. The initial post is where that possibility crossed my mind. Just getting that out there in case everyone forgot about it during the "Harvey is Jesus the Jester" debate on here.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Aug 12, 2011 23:37:51 GMT -4
Harvey, do you have a post restriction? For some reason I'm getting a sarcastic Stan or Kyle vibe from it. I know you're wrong with that! Right now he's claiming to be somebody that can heal the Town, don't spoil it for him, because that's pretty much the only reason why I unvote for him. If there is a doc in this game, for south park "The Almighty" will be the perfect choice. Although I am aware he could be making it up.
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Post by brandenharvey on Aug 13, 2011 0:36:19 GMT -4
I won't get modkilled because I had half the votes for a lynch.
I told you, Hart, that it was a gut read on JC and my gut was wrong.
No PR, JC. Just not a lot of time.
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Post by Level-Two on Aug 13, 2011 0:55:21 GMT -4
First of all, James. I've explained in detail why I believe Branden Harvey is scum. None of which you've refuted. The difference between me and you is that I have actually pointed out inconsistances with branden harvey and his gameplay thus far; my claims are justified. You? Got my role. I hate you all. vote: everyoneAlso this sounds an awful lot like Cartman. The initial post is where that possibility crossed my mind. Just getting that out there in case everyone forgot about it during the "Harvey is Jesus the Jester" debate on here. You have nonsense like this to work off of. A joke post to start off the game? That's your reasoning? LOL. Not mention if I was scum, I'd rethink even making a joke post like that in fear of blowing my cover. Keep scrambling, James. The desperation looks cute on you.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Aug 13, 2011 1:55:10 GMT -4
I'm not positive on ALL the roles or what they do and what not. Need to touch up on all that again but I know a few things reading and playing this freestyle pretty much and that is that Harvey started off pointing fingers quickly and to me it's like the old funky rule in that whoever smelt it, dealt it....He pointed, he has reason too..
VOTE: Harvey
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Post by Kurt on Aug 13, 2011 11:29:18 GMT -4
I won't get modkilled because I had half the votes for a lynch. I told you, Hart, that it was a gut read on JC and my gut was wrong. No PR, JC. Just not a lot of time. 2. Role claiming is NOT allowed. Just wanted to throw that one out there.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 13, 2011 11:45:16 GMT -4
Lester, you've explained in great detail, yes, but you have NOTHING to back it up. Right now I'm saying that you haven't shown any real evidence other than going by posts. If you had said "I investigated him and he came up scum" then I'd be more inclined to agree with you but I haven't seen anything from you to make me change my opinion on the Harvey issue. That was a joke vote? I find if convenient that you post that and ever since then have done nothing but try to blend in with the town. As far as me scrambling goes keep having delusions because I'm not scrambling at all. I'm just not buying any of the bullshit being sold on here because that's what it is. Bullshit.
Role claiming and POST EDITING are not allowed. Kash edited his vote post.
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Post by President Jeff on Aug 13, 2011 12:47:09 GMT -4
Vote Count
Branden - 5 Level One - 1
Not Voting
Pence, Sally, Rebel, Blade, Stephan and Branden
12 Alive, takes 7 votes to Lynch
Deadline is Sunday @ 9pm EST
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Post by Level-Two on Aug 13, 2011 13:04:32 GMT -4
Post editing gets you a warning, not mod killed. Role claiming, gets you mod killed.
Furthermore, I think Branden Harvey is lying again. Surprise. Even if you can role claim, I don't think you're ever allowed to outright claim what character you are in the game. So, I'm pretty sure he'd be mod killed...
If it was actually is role.
So, after doing everything in his power to get himself lynched (looking like a jester); he's a few votes away from being lynched and NOW he comes out and says he's a town healer, lol. Me thinks, the entire scumster hiding under the jester role sorta backfired a little early and now he's scrambling to get out of it.
It's sorta funny to watch.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 13, 2011 13:59:44 GMT -4
Here's something else to think about. A lot of players have been awfully quiet in this game. I think some of the scum are flying under the radar. Just an observation.
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