Heroes Mafia [Day 7]

[Level-Two]

I'm not quite sure what is Metro's argument. If JamesV is hinting at having actual information to as Metro's alignment then it only solidifies my vote and my encouragement that people on the fence such as Kris and HomeTownHeroes step up to the plate.

It's not that Metro even has any defence other then dropping the old ''why would JamesV come forward with his information if it were true'' hint.

[Michael Jennings]

Metro, I don't even have to say what I know at this point because basically you just outed yourself by not divulging said information because it would damn you if you do.

[Hometown Heroes]

Vote: Metro

Sorry it took me so long to vote.

Metro to me has been acting strange to me. Now out of the blue once he notice everyone is voting him out. He want to try to stay in the game.

[Kid Dynamo]

If Jeff carries forward his "I'm not with Metro; here's proof" vote from day 2, then it is done.

[Phil Atken]

I woke up this morning and my eye is swollen is all hell. Still, finished creating all my exam papers.

A mixture of coy non-answers, never really addressing the case against him, basically only showing up at lynch point and only then to throw some kind of *wink wink* power role.

Vote: Metro

[Kid Dynamo]

Welcome back and sorry about your eye.

[Kurt]

Looks like a lynch to me.

Hopefully we'll get some information out of this lynch, even if it's just characters being featured in the write-up. I've got one or two questions about the exchange between James/Metro, but the write-up should hopefully answer them all, especially once we see Metro's role.

I have a feeling Biggs will be modkilled during the night (when was his last post, day 1?), so we should be slightly closer to putting all the pieces together regardless if anything significant happens during the night.

[Blade]

Vote Count


1 - JamesV [Tmarv, Metro]]
8 - Captain Metro [Level One, JamesV, Kid Dynamo, Kurt Noble, Johnny Rebel, Callahan, Hometown Heores, Atken]


Not Voting
[Biggs, Matt Slater, Kris, CJ, President Jeff]



15 alive, 8 to lynch.


LYNCH!!!

Write up coming.....

[Blade]

With Captain Metro on the back foot, the town headed by JamesV are ready to pounce. Something hasn't been adding up as they gather outside of Primatech.

Charging the doors down they burst trhough and use their superpowers to take care of the security Guards.


JamesV: Guys, down this way, there are flashes of light coming from the room at the end of the corridor.


Bursting through the door they See Captain metro using electricity to keep an uknown hostage.

JamesV: This is the end of the road for you.

They Heroes use their abilities to detain captain metro but the only way he is going out is with a fight. After a huge battle commences the town string up captain metro to reveal....



Dead - Captain Metro - Elle Bishop - Mafia Jailkeeper
Special Powers: Electric Manipulation


______________________________


Elsewhere in Las Vegas, Nevada.


Biggs is playing with his new found power Hijacking Cash machines when an array of red and blue flashing lights appear from nowhere.

Cop: You're busted pal.


Modkilled - Biggs - Micah Sanders - Tracker
Special Power: Technopathy




Dead:
Knuckles - Matt Parkman - Lie Detector - Killed Night 1
Farquhar - Niki Sanders - Town Bodyguard - Killed night 2
Captain Metro - Elle Bishop - Mafia Jailkeeper - Lynched Day 3
Biggs - Micah Sanders - Town tracker - Modkilled Day 3


________________________________


13 Heroes Left alive as we head into night 3You have 24/ish hours to send me your actions.

Night will end on Saturday 11th February @ 12PM EST

[Blade]

Night phase, no talking

[Blade]

With the Heroes thinking they had got one over on the 'teh bad guys', the 'bad guys' had other things on their mind. Somewhere in an abandoned shack they gather to readjust their gameplan.


Adam Monroe: I tell you, what happened to Captain Metro wasn't right, we shall seek revenge as it is they that are the imposters in this world, not us.


Adam reaches into a fridge behind him and pulls out a tray of viles. He reaches forward and hands them to another man.

Adam Monroe: Take these and use them well; we must take out he imposters before its too late.



______________________________



Somewhere in New York City...


Hiro Nakamura is on his cell phone communicating with Ando, his voice is high pitched and he seems worried.

Hiro: But Ando, its not working, I think I am stuck here.

Ando: Dont be silly Hiro, just close your eyes and shake like normal.

Hiro: Something's not right...


The phone begins to crackle before cutting off. The lights in the room begin to flicker as his fate draws nearer. Hiro is met with a hand to his shoulder. he turns round quickly to see a man standing their with a maniacal look on his face.

Hiro: What do you want?

Man: Oh you have something that I want.

The man moves forward to pounce and soon tackles Hiro to the ground dismembering him as he goes.



About 15 minutes later...

A mysterious man walks into the room where hero lies with his head cut open. He reaches to his pocket and pulls out a cell phone and makes a call. Someone on the other end answers...

Man: You aren't going to like this. Hiro is already dead......




Dead - JamesV - Hiro Nakamura - Town Watcher
Special power: Space and Time manipulation

[Blade]

Mohinder: (voiceover) It is man's ability to remember that sets us apart. We are the only species that is concerned with the past. How memories give us voice. And to bear witness to history so that others might learn. So that they might celebrate our triumphs and be warned of our failures.

Alive -
Tmarv, Level One, Kid Dynamo, Kurt Noble, Johnny Rebel, Kris, CJ Gates, Callahan, Hometown Heroes, Atken, Matt Slater, President Jeff



Dead:
Knuckles - Matt Parkman - Lie Detector - Killed Night 1
Farquhar - Niki Sanders - Town Bodyguard - Killed night 2
Captain Metro - Elle Bishop - Mafia Jailkeeper - Lynched Day 3
Biggs - Micah Sanders - Town tracker - Modkilled Day 3
jamesV - Hiro Nakamura - Town Watcher - Killed Night 3



With 12 alive its 7 to lynch

Deadline On Wednesday 15th February @ 12PM EST



Day 4 starts Now

[President Jeff]

I dunno if anyone noticed or not, but I wasn't able to post Yesterday, because I was Kidnapped

[Matt Slater]

Okay, I'm going to bite down hard right now on these developments and offer my points.

I know I haven’t been as active as I should be in this game, but I have been working on other stuff as of late, and haven’t really been keeping up. But to redeem myself, I have done loads of research throughout this game, and am now going to post a long response to set up Day 4 – unless someone else posts before me, which is more than likely.

Anyway, from what we all should know by now, I think, the Heroes characters bolded in white distinguish non-playing characters, meaning they’re not being played in the actual game. Names that are also in white for the players protect their allegiant identity, making the game more strategic and interesting. There is also a third-party in play, but this only contains one person; at least to my current knowledge. I’ll explain this later.

Now, with that being said, I’ll begin my own points as to who is scum and who is townie ... from the very beginning, just to get everything sorted out. Yes, I started reading this ENTIRE game thread from start to finish.

First of all, Atken was kidnapped around about the time Knuckles was killed. Now, my theory is he was kidnapped by the scum, and this was made clear in the recent write-up. Captain Metro, a scum, was revealed to have the power of Jailkeeper. He must have helped kidnap Atken. I guess that is the case because Atken then voted against Metro on his return.

So in some ways, we now know Atken is town, and Metro is out.

But now here are my points for the people that ... ahem ... threw Mr Metro under the bus.

Let me start with ... President Jeff.

Here’s why. We know Knuckles was town now, and who voted against him? President Jeff. Yes, Atken did too, but he was kidnapped by the scum, and so his vote didn’t apply. Oh, and by the way, Knuckles’ special power? Telepathy. He would know who changed TMarv’s votes, and so he had to be eliminated by the scum.

And what intrigues me more is that Jeff said this after Knuckles was killed:

“So with Level One still alive, does this mean he's scum?”

I believe his intention was to then target L-1 with Knuckles out of the equation, as Knuckles was able to know who had changed the votes. And since L-1 and TMarv have some kind of bond, and are in my mind town, it’s a scum tactic to eliminate them quickly.

Take this quote into consideration from Jeff if you don’t believe me...

“I find it odd that Scum killed Knuckles. Not saying he's a bad player, but I expected a stronger player like James V, TMarv or Level One to get killed.”

He knows they are all town. This is a scum comment to me, and after what has occurred, it just raises alarm bells, especially after looking through this entire game thread in retrospect.

But he isn’t scum.

Take into account Jeff’s quietness and his intention to throw Metro under the bus, and you have someone that is not playing a townie or a scum. He is third-party.

Now people might assume at this point that President Jeff is the vote stealer. He isn’t.

This leads me to my next suspect ... Kurt Noble, and here is where it gets tricky to follow, but I’ll do my best.

At the very beginning, TMarv first voted for Level One, and his vote was rescinded without his consent to Unvote. This was a joke vote all things considered, but bear with me here. He then voted for President Jeff next time, and it was changed saying that he voted Atken instead. Then, after that, he voted for Level One as a final task, and once again, it went to Atken.

Now, when L-1 voted for Bacon, it switched ... to TMarv. That intrigued me. If L-1 had voted TMarv outright, L-1’s vote would deflect away from TMarv, not get attracted to him; at least that’s my theory, although if others agree with me on this, then I hope I’ve gotten something right. But since L-1 voted someone else, someone changed the votes in order to elicit confusion.

This was also the case when TMarv made a vote against Captain Metro, and it went ... to LEVEL ONE.

Kurt Noble changed the votes. Why? To stall the game, as JamesV pointed out, a player who CHALLENGED Kurt Noble a few times before when it related to Metro’s futuristic lynch. Noble could have put TMarv’s vote on JamesV, but that would have been far too easy and noticeable. Besides, he already voted JamesV at one point anyway, so an excessive vote wasn’t necessary.

He needed to generate confusion with the deflections, but he messed up when he was clearly trying to stall Metro’s lynch, a tactic that failed to transpire on Day 3.

Also, here is an original quote from TMarv to match my point, and I have added names in brackets that apply to the character roles inside:

“Peter Petreli (Now corrected as Nathan Petrelli) is a Vote Stealer (Noble)...and yesterday he stole my vote. There is a possibility that Peter is Scum, but I'm not sure.

Nikki Sanders is a protector (Farquhar).... and visited me last night (thank you btw)

What does this add to the game? not much, but PEter is the reason my vote was stolen, and peter used it on me day one.... but he fucked up!”

Speaking of Farquhar, he was killed long after he theorized a connection between L-1 and TMarv and, might I add, AFTER challenging Jeff’s comments of why the scum killed Knuckles. He then tested a vote against Jeff ... but not before noting Noble’s quote as being scummie. Sound suspicious? It should be ... but it isn’t that simple.

You see, in order for Jeff and Noble to save face, they had to back off. This also led to Metro being thrown under the bus. But Noble was not the one who killed Farquhar.

No, that person goes to ... Michael Callahan.

Metro said that Callahan was playing a complete opposite of Bacon, who Metro voted for first of all, and then when Callahan started accusing JamesV of being scum immediately from the get-go, Metro strangely changed his vote. Metro was later revealed to be scum. Also take into account that when Farquhar challenged Callahan’s theory, he was killed outright in the next night phase, and I’m willing to bet it was Callahan that did it as an illusionist / shape-shifter, a power that was important for the scum to use, which was why Bacon was changed mid-way through the Day phase.

So in my mind, Jeff killed Knuckles to remove his telepathy and take it for himself, and Callahan knocked off Farquhar when he, Jeff and Noble were challenged against. Scum working together.

Now take this quote from JamesV into consideration:

“I believe he is suggesting that either myself, TMarv, or Level One possibly is scum. In fact I'm going to agree with that. However I'll add Jeff to that list as well and probably Noble too. Those are the apex players here. However, that said, I'm guessing that out of that list (myself, TMarv, Level One, Jeff, Noble) two are scum or third party (i.e. serial killer, kidnapper, etc.). That would leave three as town. Now considering Atken got kidnapped that means he could be either town or mafia considering that the kidnapper most likely is third party.”

Jeff and Noble are added as being possible scum, and from the actions I’ve described, I deem them to be.

Which brings me to my final suspect on the list, and one some people might be sceptical of ... Johnny Rebel.

Johnny Rebel is also classed based on his dig-up vote towards TMarv’s voting patterns, and towards Level One that his entire reason for voting on TMarv was an observation. Yes, an observation for the scum to take note of.

Do you know what else got me about J-Reb? The fact he asked if protection would be written up. Why would he ask that ... unless he wanted to protect, gasp, CAPTAIN METRO, who was later revealed to be scum. And since Jeff mentioned that him and Metro weren’t connected to save his own role from being exposed, Metro took the hit without any protection from J-Reb, who tried to stretch out the time-frame of Metro’s lynch on Day 3 by accusing Dynamo of posting like a scum.

Although, come to think of it, he could have easily just left Metro to be thrown under the bus too. Plus, I have a reason to believe that J-Reb is the Godfather, and he ordered the hit on Farquhar in the first place, since he was protecting TMarv, a player that J-Reb attempted to draw attention to as a target.

And how all of this comes together is that President Jeff ONLY JUST said he was kidnapped, when there was NO write-up of such a thing taking place, and now JamesV is killed during the night phase, presumably by Kurt Noble after he was challenged for preventing Metro's lynch from happening.

So here is my conclusion.

President Jeff is Sylar. He HAS to be. Once he said he wasn’t connected with Metro, tried to put the attention on JamesV, TMarv and L-1, AND hasn’t contributed towards the third-party theory, he was concealing the fact there is a third-party ... and he’s in it. There are major alarm bells here, and I encourage anyone else to think otherwise. Also keep in mind that when Blade set up this game, he presumably gave the experienced players high-profile roles. Jeff is one of them.

Plus, let’s not forget about Callahan. I believe he mimicked the entity of TMarv, someone he tried to put focus on earlier along with J-Reb, and when Farquhar called him out on it, Farquhar was killed by him ... with J-Reb organizing the hit due to him being a protector of TMarv, who J-Reb tried to get focus on earlier. Then you have Noble stealing votes and trying to delay lynches, going against JamesV and Dynamo, and using those votes to confuse people with something between L-1 and TMarv, and you have a party that are doing everything they can to cut down the experienced players.

So here is what I’m thinking in terms of allegiances and roles...

Town
TMarv
Level-One
Kid Dynamo
Atken
Kris

Scum
Johnny Rebel = Scum Godfather
Kurt Noble = Vote Stealer
Michael Callahan = Illusionist / Shape-Shifter

Third-Party
President Jeff = Sylar

Unsure Of
Hometown Heroes
CJ Gates

Those are my points, and if these four are willing to challenge them, I have enough materials and evidence at my disposal from the game thread to defend my views.

And if I’m killed during the night phase for this, then people will realize I was telling the truth. Yes, I am the sacrificial lamb in this scenario, but someone has to be.

[Matt Slater]

EBWOP

And just to be sure...

Vote: President Jeff

Try and get out of this one, boss man.

[President Jeff]

Its hard to be Scum when Scum Kidnapped me on Night two, preventing me to post on Day 3. Slater, your thoughts on me are completely wrong, 100%. Which also makes me believe the rest of your theory is wrong as well

5 People didn't vote on a Metro Lynch.

Biggs, Matt Slater, Kris, CJ, President Jeff

I would have voted for Metro as you saw all I did on Day 2. Biggs was mod killed.

That Leaves Slater, Kris and CJ. I believe at least one of them is scum. I can't see all of the scum jumping on the Metro Lynch band waggon.

I'm not going to vote just yet. I want to wait and see what others have to say first.

[President Jeff]

Also to add, when I was kidnapped, I was informed that the Jail Keeper Kidnapped me, who happened to be Metro, so no reason for anyone now to not talk on this day

[Michael Callahan]

Feb 12, 2012 7:06:53 GMT -4 Matt Slater said:

Scum
Johnny Rebel = Scum Godfather
Kurt Noble = Vote Stealer
Michael Callahan = Illusionist / Shape-Shifter

No. This is made of stupid. Read the thread. The last day or two has consisted of me and various people arguing who is or is not Scum between myself and Metro. Metro immediately started levying accusations against me to take the heat off himself for ultimately being scum (as was proven by his lynching). You'd have to be bone in the brain retarded as a scum player to try and put the heat from yourself onto anotherscum player.

He's been proven to be scum. Scum players don't try and (successfully) start lynches on each other. The fact he turned up scum after all of his piss poor accusations against is pretty much conclusive evidence that I am town. Therefore, this is wrong.

What I will agree with is Kurt Noble. He's been aligned with Metro this entire time and suddenly decided to shift when he knew that Metro had gone and blown it for himself. So I'm gonna' go ahead and put a marker out and say, let's make it 2 for 2. I propose a lynch against Noble. If we string him up, I'm convinced his blood will run red.

Vote: Noble.

[Matt Slater]

Feb 12, 2012 7:29:59 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

Also to add, when I was kidnapped, I was informed that the Jail Keeper Kidnapped me, who happened to be Metro, so no reason for anyone now to not talk on this day

Then why wasn't this acknowledged in the write-up? It seems pretty absurd to me to claim to be kidnapped when nothing of the sort was detailed, except in the case of Atken.

Now, I will concede to the fact that Captain Metro did have an imprisoned captive when he was taken down by the townies and lynched. If that were you, it really does leave me to question which side you're on.

And then I realized, you're not on any side. You're third-party.

Take a look at the recent write-up before Day 4 started. There was a name in purple, indicating a third party player - or so I'm believing at this point.

Which I believe you are a part of, so my vote against you still stands.

Now, as far as me being scum, I will admit that I wasn't available to vote against Captain Metro on his second lynch attempt, but if you look back, I DID vote against him the first time, as I fully believed he was scum with JamesV and the others. That was deemed correct.

As far as you go Callahan, Metro might have been deceptive enough to put his heat on another scum to save himself; unless he believed you were secretively a townie and wanted to shift the heat onto you anyway. But your agreement about Noble does intrigue me somewhat. I'm not going to change my points of view just yet, as I'm sticking to my guns about Jeff, Noble and Rebel, but as far as you go, you're on a fence that I'll be studying very closely.

Watch your balance.

[T-Marv]

Alright Folks.... Last Night was really really wierd.

I visited CJ Gates and got NO results, but I wasn't roleblocked cause I would know if someone else visited me and the only person who did was the doctor(yes there was a doctor AND a protector) in this game.

I'm pretty sure the only people I would get no results on based on my role is Sylar, The Godfather, or someone who's already visited me (since when they visit I only know the character and not the player.)

So at this point in the game CJ.... I need some answers cause you're right on top of my list buddy.

[T-Marv]

Also...


I believe Calahan, L-1, Dynamo, and myself are Town

I believe CJ is either GF or Sylar

[Kurt]

Oh hi Slater. Nice to see you so active after never posting at all the last day phase.

So let me just get this straight Slater..

You're saying that there are 4 Mafia/1 SK (So 5 bad guys in a 17 person) game, and that Metro led a lynch on his scum mate (Callahan) that I joined in on (you know, because), drawing heat on all of us. Then, when that failed, the entire scum team lynched Metro, and now my teammate Callahan is trying to lynch me?

That's ridiculous. There would be no need for that "shoot ourselves in the foot" strategy that put almost all of us in danger. But honestly bud, there's a lot of problems with your post in general.

Knuckles's ability was to be a lie detector, NOT telepathy or whatever you named it as. He takes one line from the game, and is told whether it's true or a lie. The whole vote-stealer aspect really didn't solidify until Day 2, when Knuckles was dead. But, what you're saying is that Sylar (for some reason) knew this ability and specifically targeted Knuckles. Why on Earth would he know that?

I LOVE that you say I stalled Metro's lynch...when on Day 2, my vote on Callahan occurred before any votes on Metro. I never defended Metro, or said "Hey guys, Metro is obviously town! Callahan is the better lynch!" I noted his shifty behavior, coupled with the inactive Godfather angle. I never tried to distract the town, I merely defended myself from James's accusations, and if you'll actually note what happened, a lot of players said they didn't feel secure enough on lynching Metro yet. I stood by my views, and didn't throw my vote his way until my inactive Godfather theory fell apart.

I'm not the vote-stealer. I already hinted about my role on the last day phase, and that's not it. Your reasoning for me being the vote-stealer makes no sense considering I did throw my vote on Metro, essentially canceling out whatever "distraction" you said I laid out.

Where were you by the way? I understand you were busy during the day...but you did log on during that day phase, and it takes five seconds to vote. You already voted for Metro the day before, but not the last day phase. No one would have questioned the vote. Don't accuse me of stalling the game when I actually helped lynch Metro. Would him being lynched make me the next suspect? Absolutely...but I've got nothing to hide, and I intend on proving that there's absolutely no connection to Metro and I, despite however much certain individuals wants to believe there is.

I need to go back and read some of your theories after I eat, but the ones you've laid out above aren't flying with me. You've laid pretty low this whole game so far, but your post throws out a LOT of red flags to me.

FoS: Slater

Oh, and let's see who the vote-stealer targeted today?

Vote: Kid Dynamo

Nothing personal, just picked at random, ha.

[Kid Dynamo]

@noble - random, huh? Riiiiight.


We all know JamesV was killed because he had the greatest volume of credibility and accuracy. In other words, you trusted him when he screamed Metro more than you trusted me. That's fine. Not getting pissy about it. 'Tis what 'tis.

He also was dead on about Metro. While I suspected him, JV actually exposed him. I was hoping my loudness would put the credit (and hence the bullseye) on me, but, as has been suspected, we're dealing with smart mafia.

Now the easy thing would be to vote Noble. But we already know he's scum so I'm wanting to focus our attention elsewhere. Noble knows he's got JamesV's FoS from the grave so he's not stupid and he won't do anything overt.

So let's review:

Town - TMarv, me, L1, Slater, Kris, Callahan, Atken

Probably Town - Heroes (you've sided town all game, but haven't contributed much beyond voting Metro when he was on his way to the gallows; I believe you're town, but the unconditional trust just isn't there yet)

That leaves 4 people I suspect as scum/SK, in line with Slater's quantitative projection of the scum.

We all know Noble is scum. "But I voted for Metro!!!" Yeah you did, after the bandwagon started. "But now I'm the prime suspect!" Exactly, which is why I would rather monitor you and see what you do to try and extend your shelf life since the one person that trusted you was JV's 1st victim.

I've suspected Rebel since day 1 when he was really trying to pump info out of TMarv then voted for a random townie "to get them to squeal". (that townie was me but that's irrelevant; Slater and Kris have cast votes for me and they have my trust). I think he's had legit IRL issues, and I know he voted Metro, but I've already made clear my hypothesis that the scum martyred Metro when it was inevitable he was getting lynched.

My gut says CJ is the godfather. He's got IRL issues, but my gut feeling is that he is trying to fly under the radar. I'm glad that others are starting to get the same feeling about him.

vote:PH Jeff

All that said, I'm going to try and channel my JamesV and lock on to when a suspect makes a mistake. I think if Jeff was kidnapped, it would have been written up, just like Atken was.

But to me, the big mistake was this:

(again I can't do the official quote without deleting the rest of my post so italics = Jeff)

Its hard to be Scum when Scum Kidnapped me on Night two, preventing me to post on Day 3. Slater, your thoughts on me are completely wrong, 100%. Which also makes me believe the rest of your theory is wrong as well

5 People didn't vote on a Metro Lynch.

Biggs, Matt Slater, Kris, CJ, President Jeff

I would have voted for Metro as you saw all I did on Day 2. Biggs was mod killed.

That Leaves Slater, Kris and CJ. I believe at least one of them is scum. I can't see all of the scum jumping on the Metro Lynch band waggon.

I'm not going to vote just yet. I want to wait and see what others have to say first.

Here's my red flags:

1. The Slater backlash. "you're wring so you're scum". As I displayed when Kris accused me, you don't drop the scum card just because you get voted. You prove yourself, and the other person backs off, satisfied. Making Slater look suspicious just because you don't like what he says sounds scummy.

2. You reminded us that you were part of a four-man group of you, Slater, Kris, and CJ. Sylar would want all 3 of them dead. As mentioned earlier, CJ has godfather written all over him. As for the other two, they need to be silenced even more than I do because they have the guts to question me without just assuming I'm scum (anymore). When I convince them I'm right, it makes my argument credible. When they show me I'm wrong, it prevents a townie getting lynched. If townies like them aren't around, I just look like a rambling fool. (my logic here is that knuckles and Farquhar likely were killed for the same reason)

3. Not voting "Til others speak first." Combine that with his earlier attempt to put L1 under suspicion just because he's a strong player (to defend my alleged hypocrisy, I'm convinced the enemies are strong players, but I'm not naming names because that'd just be a goose chase) and this is the strongest evidence that he's Sylar.

He won when Metro was lynched. He won when JamesV was killed. If I was Sylar, I'd do exactly what he just admitted he's doing: support a bandwagon without starting one. I was HIGHLY SUSPECT that his Day 2 vote was him using tricky wording about proving he's not aligned with Metro by a vote. Of course he's not aligned with scum. He's Sylar!

Finally, let's go back to the kidnapping. I think he's lying about it, but let's play Devils advocate. If he WAS kidnapped, that is strong evidence he's not scum. But that still makes it very possible for him to be Sylar. The only reason I don't buy it is because it doesn't make sense to me for the scum to kidnap who they think is Sylar. If a veteran could step in and confirm/deny this theory, I'd appreciate it.

Bottom line: Jeff is Sylar. Period.

[Kris]

For Jeff's 'kidnapping' to not show up in the previous day's write-up is something I find to be extremely odd. One would think that if Blade wrote Atken's kidnapping into the write-up, then he'd do the same for anyone else that was kidnapped-- and since Metro is dead, there's not going to be any more that we can reference to see if it is the norm or not. That being said, after reading everything that has been posted, there is a rather strong case against Jeff-- but there's also something else that I think warrants being pointed out.

Namely? CJ being scum.

I truly believe that he is merely too busy IRL to play as he would like, as he's referenced repeatedly-- hospitals being a place one has to go on the weekend is definitely something that is not good, and is definitely time consuming. Furthermore, look at the write up. I'm guessing those vials are a virus or poison (can't remember which would fit the setting more, eheh) that the scum team are only now receiving. Not only that, but this is the first night that we've seen even so much as an attempted Mafia kill. What does that add up to, to me?

I think that the Godfather hasn't been inactive... I think that the Mafia, as a whole, was not able to kill.

Maybe it was Metro being lynched that unlocked it, or maybe it was something else, but going by the write-ups? The killer not being written in red gives it a boost in substantiality, I think. I'd love for anyone else to weigh in on this, because I think that this theory ties into the Sylar being a serial killer theory rather well.

[T-Marv]

Feb 12, 2012 13:26:13 GMT -4 Kris said:

Not only that, but this is the first night that we've seen even so much as an attempted Mafia kill. What does that add up to, to me?

Not True... The illusionist killed Nikki Sanders(Farquhar) and we know that the illusionist is most likely scum.

And I say CJ is scum, not because of his inactivity, etc. but because of my night time findings, so that's why I'm pushing him to role claim now. Untill he does that.....

Vote: CJ Gates

[Kris]

Hm, there is that... although isn't it also possible that the illusionist made Sylar look like he was you, T-Marv?

[T-Marv]

Guess that's a possibility, but then we're opening ourselves up for a whole third party faction and I don't think that's the case. Either that or Sylar "stole" the power of the illusionist off game and it was just flavor in the write up.

just a thought

[Level-Two]

Come the fuck on. You guys are being ridicolous right now.

Vote: CJ Gates.

I'm on a shit keyboard right now so I can't type my theories in detail right now but let's get the shit going.

Matt Slater has done a great job of having me slip his name into the potential scum category with that very odd explanation; almost as if he had it prepared beforehand. Unless he wrote that all up in 15 minutes directly after a day change after being quiet for pretty much the ENTIRE day phase when we we're busy lynching a scummy metro.

The reason why I think President Jeff's kidnapping wasn't included in the write up, because Metro or someone in the scum QT complained to Blade because when including kidnappings in the write up= clears them as town and only helps us out.

President Jeff is town, IMO.

As for Kurt Noble I am willing to give him a pass. He came through yesterday with a vote on Metro well before the bandwaggon. Also, his posts came off town.

As for CJ; he plays scum the same way all the time. Sick or not. He seems to have trouble even trying to put up the illusion of scum hunting. And due to T-Marv's information at night... what ELSE do you have to go on?

I've been feeling CJ was on the scum team all along and that's all I need. Vote CJ.

[Level-Two]

vote: CJ Gates

[Matt Slater]

Feb 12, 2012 13:50:34 GMT -4 Kris said:

Hm, there is that... although isn't it also possible that the illusionist made Sylar look like he was you, T-Marv?

I'm not certain about that possibility until an experienced player confirms it, but it could be. With that said though, how many illusions would they go through in order to cover their tracks? I'm under the belief they can only imitate one person's form instead of two at once.

As far as CJ Gates' being scum goes, Kris and TMarv raise some good points, especially with TMarv speaking about the visitation not coming up with anything, indicating a role block of some sort.

Oh, and Noble, here is my reply to you.

I'm not saying there are a definitive of 4 scum. Those are merely my speculative choices on who I BELIEVE are scum, so the list obviously isn't 100% accurate.

As far as you voting FOR Metro goes, that could be a bandwagon jump to save face and throw him under the bus. Seems rather appropriate considering people were claiming you were aligned with him from the start. What better way to try and disapprove that allegiance by voting against him and proving that you were standing alone?

Unless, you know, third-party comes to mind...

And as far as your comments on Knuckles were concerned, by that logic, they DID eliminate him for some reason first and foremost, and I'm willing to bet someone knew he had the lie detection skill. I stand by that.