Kid Dynamo
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 1:50:46 GMT -4
vote: Captain Metro
Ever since I voted him before, a lot of others have caught on to the sketchiness of his actions. I'm certainly not backing down now.
As before, question my reasons and unlike Metro I'll be here to defend myself.
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Post by Kurt on Feb 9, 2012 9:31:30 GMT -4
L1, I'm not disagreeing that there's probably a JOAT in the game, because it makes sense with the kidnap/illusion and both featuring the player names (I guess that's the drawback power?). I just think that at the heart of the Sylar character, he's a killer, which trumps the multiple abilities. In the show, from what I've seen, it always seemed like he killed pretty much one way anyway.
I kind of expected Metro to come in and have posted something by now...but he hasn't. I'm getting the same feeling I got about Aspen last game when she didn't come to refute anything said about her. With my suspicions of Callahan having dwindled (but not totally gone), Metro is looking like the most viable candidate for his lack of a defense/posting of any kind. I'm guessing he just hoped the heat on him got passed to me because of my quarrels with JamesV.
I know some are going to raise their eyebrows and accuse me of trying to buy face with this vote, but I've genuinely explained across this day why my inactive Godfather theory fell apart. Besides, if Metro turns up scum, I'm going to be next in line for being a suspect, so I'm not saving myself any shortage of headaches here. Just trying to help the town and not "stall the game" as I've been accused of. I'm not Metro's mouthpiece and I intend to prove it.
Vote: Metro
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Post by Michael Jennings on Feb 9, 2012 13:36:56 GMT -4
Where is everyone? Why is it the moment Metro wagons get momentum the game stalls? Scum team is stalling it, that's why. Obvious mafia strategy here. They're stalling AGAIN to prevent a Metro lynch. This happened the last time too. Scum team's strategy is too obvious.
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 14:07:04 GMT -4
We have 5 votes, Double H agreed yesterday and Callahan and Jeff voted yesterday. It seems like it's just a matter of a few people showing up and we can watch tonight's Nobledrive in night phase.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Feb 9, 2012 14:28:38 GMT -4
I'll apologize for my absence... you can read my explanation on the OOC board.
The lack of Metro's defense is alarming. It has seemed to be several days since he last checked in and even then it was for a quick vote. It doesn't look like an explanation is coming and we can't go through another day phase without lynching scum.
With that being said: Vote Metro
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Post by Blade on Feb 9, 2012 16:38:25 GMT -4
Vote Count
1 - Level One [Tmarv] 5 - Captain Metro [Level One, JamesV, Kid Dynamo, Kurt Noble, Johnny Rebel]
Not Voting [Biggs, Atken, Matt Slater, Kris, CJ, Captain Metro, Callahan, Hometown Heroes, President Jeff]
With 15 Alive it takes 8 to lynch
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Kid Dynamo
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 17:02:01 GMT -4
Soooo...day 1 TMarv is locked into Atken...day 2-3 TMarv is locked to Level 1
This is making no sense. I defer to someone who has seen this before.
This is still telling we are dealing with expert scum because they appear to purposefully target people who aren't engaged in conflicts, therefore giving off red flags.
Then again, ever since we caught Metro, the scum have gone totally dark so maybe they just didn't update the "move Tmarv's vote here" action.
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Post by Level-Two on Feb 9, 2012 17:18:45 GMT -4
unvote: Metro
I'm still wondering why my vote is taken again. Obviously, it is strategical but it also tells me that I am closer to pinning down the scum team and thus they feel it wise to take my vote as a pre-emptive defensive action. Thanks scum!
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Kris
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Post by Kris on Feb 9, 2012 17:28:54 GMT -4
While Metro's silence does lend considerable weight to the theory of him being scum, there's also a lot of people that haven't spoken much at all throughout the game-- and a couple of them have had spurts of activity, followed by a lot of silence. Callahan comes to mind as an example, and he, too, was being considered as suspicious before he fell silent. I suspect that Biggs will either be modkilled or replaced, as inactive as he's been.
My point is this; while my doubt in Metro being scum is waning, there's still enough there that I don't want to jump on the bandwagon that Dynamo is Hellbent on driving until he gets to the end.
(I also remain unconvinced that Dynamo is town, but there is no denying the help he's been during this day phase. I'm not going to be singing his praises or following his lead blindly, but he is redeeming himself, I will admit.)
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 9, 2012 17:55:15 GMT -4
L1 your vote was not taken... mine was.
I already said that my vote was stolen as I was visited by the vote stealer again last night.
Dynamo... somebody controls my vote and can put it wherever they want. That's what's happening, it's not random, it's purposeful.
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 9, 2012 17:55:42 GMT -4
Why did you Unvote L1?
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 17:59:14 GMT -4
For the record, I was far from the first person to issue a day 3 vote, but yeah, I still want Metro gone. Yes, there's been a ton of inactivity - such is expected on a 2-show week with 17 total matches - but the difference is that Metro only went dark after me and others started going after him, and so far two highly suspect people (Jeff and Noble) have thrown him under the bus.
To me, that's a tell for scum cutting dead weight. If Metro is scum, he's useless to them now so the smart move is to join the bandwagon and appear town.
If Metro was town, A: busy or not, he'd be taking a moment to defend himself. B: once the bandwagon started, scum would have jumped in and an easy lynch would be made; after all, what scum WOULDN'T want a free town kill?
Maybe it's scum stalling, maybe it's just a ton of people busy IRL.
I guess the votes will decide, because there's really not much else to go on, unless other people want to take Kris's skepticism to the next level and go after me.
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Post by Level-Two on Feb 9, 2012 18:09:23 GMT -4
Oh, my bad. I mis read and thought my vote was stolen again. Vote: Metro
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 18:10:55 GMT -4
EBWOP:
I am not implying Kris herself is trying to start a bandwagon against me. My comments were expressing the hypothetical idea that scum could twist her words into something.
Admittedly, I've been very hard on her when she's just trying to make sure we don't lynch a single townie. I'll admit I've been very unfair towards her for not having my sense of bloodlust.
Getting townspeople to fight each other is Scum 101, and my concern is not that Kris and I will kill each other, but that scum will turn others against us using the other's words.
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 18:16:03 GMT -4
T-MarvDo you know why the vote stealer keeps targeting you? And do you think we can get your vote back when we get your vote thief?
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Post by Michael Callahan on Feb 9, 2012 18:16:59 GMT -4
I'm all for killing Mr. Metro.
Vote: Captain Metro
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 9, 2012 18:55:48 GMT -4
@ Dynamo I have no idea... probably because I know their character and they're worried that I know who they are... which will most likely be true after tonight And yes... once you catch the vote theif, No one else (cept maybe sylar if he gets there first.) will be able to block my vote. Also, since whoever it is is most likely scum, they obviously don't want my vote going against Metro... which builds one hell of a case against him... so come on people, hammer the metro!
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Kris
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Post by Kris on Feb 9, 2012 19:02:28 GMT -4
I'll admit I've been very unfair towards her for not having my sense of bloodlust. Bloodlust can hurt us more than it helps us. Frankly, I am trying to operate sheerly off of logic rather than 'ZOMGWEMUSTLYNCHSOMEONENOW' since that gives us a better chance of victory. Am I maybe being too conservative? Perhaps, but if it all balances out at the end, then that's what matters.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Feb 9, 2012 19:05:28 GMT -4
While Metro's silence does lend considerable weight to the theory of him being scum, there's also a lot of people that haven't spoken much at all throughout the game-- and a couple of them have had spurts of activity, followed by a lot of silence. Callahan comes to mind as an example, and he, too, was being considered as suspicious before he fell silent. I suspect that Biggs will either be modkilled or replaced, as inactive as he's been. My point is this; while my doubt in Metro being scum is waning, there's still enough there that I don't want to jump on the bandwagon that Dynamo is Hellbent on driving until he gets to the end. (I also remain unconvinced that Dynamo is town, but there is no denying the help he's been during this day phase. I'm not going to be singing his praises or following his lead blindly, but he is redeeming himself, I will admit.) After all this you still think Metro is town? Am I reading this correctly? Please tell me I'm not. Metro has been hiding from the game and has been ever since I went after him the first time. His teammates probably told him to shut up and said they'd stall the game. It happened once before. I'm convinced it is happening again. Right now I'm also convinced that Level-One, Dynamo, Callahan, Heroes, TMarv, Slater, and Kris are town. Everyone else is up in the air. Metro is scum. I've played with him enough to tell the difference.
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 20:16:03 GMT -4
Heroes putting his $$$ where his mouth is and being vote #7 would help cement him as town and not just pretending to support us. #justsayin
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Post by Kurt on Feb 9, 2012 20:43:36 GMT -4
So through Tmarv we know that the vote-stealer is Nathan... but the way the vote has been placed is making me wonder if Nathan is supposed to be scum in this game. The vote being on L1 for the day makes absolutely no sense unless it's being used as a stall tactic/way to prevent a lynch like James is saying. Being that Nathan is a male character (and seems like somewhat of a town character from the first season), the way his power is being used versus the flavor of the character isn't matching up.
Is 4 scum a stretch for this game (theorizing that Elle, Candice, and Sylar are mafia characters)? We've had 14 player games with 3, so 13-4 seems like a fair number. It's between 25 and 33%, so it doesn't seem impossible. Still, we only have Elle confirmed through write-ups/Blade's posts, so time will tell what else we'll learn.
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 9, 2012 20:58:52 GMT -4
I'm thinking 3 scum , one 3rd party sk(sylar)
Sylar is not mafia...he is sk without a doubt.
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 21:25:45 GMT -4
I believe you about Sylar (and my cult paranoia has softened as the scum start to surface)
But that doesn't explain why only one person died a night.
Night 2 was almost definitely a scum kill and night 1 was almost definitely Sylar. Are they alternating or has someone successfully blocked a murder twice?
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Post by Michael Jennings on Feb 9, 2012 21:47:51 GMT -4
The vote being on L1 for the day makes absolutely no sense unless it's being used as a stall tactic/way to prevent a lynch like James is saying. Bingo. We have a winner. Scum are trying to prevent the Metro lynch again. Obviously we're too onto him and this is their last ditch effort to prevent the inevitable. Also I'm guessing 3 scummers, 1 serial killer. I think the kills alternate between the SK and the scum hitman unless of course there were blocks involved that no one is talking about. That would be the only other plausible explanation.
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Post by Metrodamus on Feb 9, 2012 22:33:09 GMT -4
Vote: James V
I'm glad he wasn't able to push a lynch quick enough to get me while I was at work doing work - as opposed to playing a mafia game. I'm not certain he's scum but I believe him to be a better vote than Noble at the moment.
Also, to pre-emptively answer why I'm switching from Callahan to James V it's because I know Callahan isn't scum in THE EXACT same way that I know I'm not.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Feb 9, 2012 22:38:34 GMT -4
Vote: James VI'm glad he wasn't able to push a lynch quick enough to get me while I was at work doing work - as opposed to playing a mafia game. I'm not certain he's scum but I believe him to be a better vote than Noble at the moment. Also, to pre-emptively answer why I'm switching from Callahan to James V it's because I know Callahan isn't scum in THE EXACT same way that I know I'm not. I'm still pushing for you no matter what you say. You were online the last day phase and didn't post so that work excuse doesn't cut it the last day phase. You know Callahan isn't scum. Ok, that's fine. Now answer me this. Who did you target night one?
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Post by Metrodamus on Feb 9, 2012 22:44:04 GMT -4
I'm still pushing for you no matter what you say. You were online the last day phase and didn't post so that work excuse doesn't cut it the last day phase. You know Callahan isn't scum. Ok, that's fine. Now answer me this. Who did you target night one? Also, to pre-emptively answer why I'm switching from Callahan to James V it's because I know Callahan isn't scum in THE EXACT same way that I know I'm not.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Feb 9, 2012 22:46:53 GMT -4
I know who you targetted night one and you know you're screwed if I say who it is. And I will if you dont fess up. Last chance.
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Post by Metrodamus on Feb 9, 2012 22:56:58 GMT -4
I know who you targetted night one and you know you're screwed if I say who it is. And I will if you dont fess up. Last chance. Go ahead and tell them James. I've got a question you can answer while you're at it. Why would you out your role here? I think the rest of the town is smart enough to see the answer to that question in combination with my last two posts to see what exactly is going on and why you're the best lynch for the night.
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Post by Kid Dynamo on Feb 9, 2012 23:19:45 GMT -4
No, Metro. I'm dumb. Assume I and the rest of the town known nothing except that you're probably scum. "She knows what she did" (Paris Hilton) is a poor explanation at this point.
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