APW Survivor: The Finale + Fallout Thread

[President Jeff]

ALL SURVIVOR QT’S ARE NOT TO BE USED ANYMORE. THE REMAINDER OF THE GAME WILL TAKE PLACE IN THIS THREAD

(For those following, Johnny Knuckles was voted out at last nights Tribal Council)


The scene opens up at Tribal Council where the final 3, Blade, CJ Gates and Phil Atkens walk in and take a seat.

Jeff: And now, we’ll bring in our Jury

Sally Talfourd, Kurt Noble, Arcadia, Nathnaiel Havok, Jason Kash, Julius Farquhar and Johnny Knuckles all walk into the room and take a seat.


Jeff: Wow, after 3 months, we're finally down to this. First, I want to congratulate Blade, CJ and Phil for making it here. You did what 13 others couldn't do. But now, the game is out of your hands and now, its in the jury's. This is how this is going to work. First, you have till 5pm EST Monday to address the jury You tell them anything you want. Remember, they are the ones who will be voting for a winner.

Once that’s done, The Jury will have a chance to speak to each and every one of you. They will ask each of you a questions or they will just address you to get information to help them decide who they will vote for to win. Once a question is asked, go a head and answer them. If a Jury member ask a question ,then another jury member doesn’t have to wait to ask another. Lets not delay this part of the game. I will give you until Friday at 5pm EST to ask and answer your questions.

Once the questions and answers are done, then The Jury will vote for who they want to win. If there is a tie, I will go to another people from the game not part of the jury who has been voted out for the final vote.

Questions reguarding this part of the game?


Alright CJ, Blade and Phil, your up, who wants to go first?

[Blade]

Can I go first?

[President Jeff]

Go for it Blade

[Blade]

Hello Jurors.

Well, I guess now is the time for me to try and win you over and gain your votes; however I guess some of you already know who you are voting for. I am not going to bore you with lies, I am not going to bore you by degrading the other guys, there is no point. I am here to win it, and have been from the start.


I have no idea what you guys have seen (by way of QT’s) or what you have heard on the rumor mill. But here we have it laid out in front of you.


Blade: The Outcast.


From week on, I had a target painted on my back. I took the Individual immunity instead of the team immunity, automatically outcasting myself from the tribe. I outed this at Tribal Council and got the reaction I expected. I had lost all trust of my tribe and if anything they wanted me gone, but that was a challenge in itself. Level One was deemed to have played a more dangerous game in QT’s which saw him leave, and everyone else put down the Individual Immunity to him, in the end it turned out to be Branden. Outing myself here helped me and hindered me as I knew I had to do the best for the team and for myself.


Week #2 I stepped up to do the hangman challenge, trying to regain the trust of the team. Knowing that the smilies that were used from the Asylum Tribe, I knew we had this in the bag as their smilies didn’t correspond properly with the answer and we just needed to win this challenge or else I would be gone. Fortunately for me, Knuckles guessed correctly and it bought me one more week.


Week #3 – The box challenge. Once again I was given the opportunity to work for or against the team, selfishly I chose to go for myself again, It worked. I won 3 boxes and it turned out to be helpful information. I gained access to the Asylum Tribal Council and could clearly see that the week one momentum had not carried over. You all seemed confused and against each other, which was great. That wasn’t the main thing. Here’s the kicker…


The clue I received as one of the prizes, I held to ransom and let everyone on the team know this. The next time we would go to Tribal, As long as I stayed in the game and wasn’t voted off, I would share the clue. I stuck to my word, I wasn’t voted off and I shared the clue…


However, the clue I gave was false. There was no way I was sharing a potential Immunity idol with anyone else, I needed to watch out for me... I needed to watch my back.


For the rest of the team challenges, I actually worked for the team. I helped the best I could and tried to show that I was trust worthy.


It all fell down to when the Tribes merged. We needed to get the win to make sure we had an advantage over the Asylum tribe and it worked. We gained the advantage and as a team, we picked you all off individually. No offense, but we all agreed to that to ensure we would have 4 of the original Overdrive team in the final four. It was purely tactics and gameplay.



Alliances


I had one strong alliance from the beginning. I trusted and worked with CJ. Without him having my back each week I don’t think I would have made it this far. His voting pattern confirmed that he was loyal so I stuck with him, even sharing the real clue that I had hidden from the rest of the tribe.


At one point, Knuckles clicked that we were working together, and when he failed to take us out when his plan backfired, he chose the next best option, and that was to align himself with CJ and I, knowing that we would help carry him to the final. Don’t get me wrong, he earned his keep and worked his ass off, but when it came down to the last week, knuckles had to go. He was too strong a player to risk bringing into the final three.


Am I sorry about voting him off?


Kinda, but with him here the final 3 would be a hell of a lot stronger and I didn’t fancy my chances. Sorry Bud.



Anything else I feel the need to share?


Yeah.

That Hidden Immunity Idol; guess who found it but never got the chance to use it?

Correct, I did.

I found the Immunity Idol the week Kash got voted off, pretty much 10 minutes after receiving the 3rd clue. Can anyone else day they found it? Doubtful, I am pretty sure I am the only one that cracked the code and found it which was a challenge in itself.



So to sum up my feelings?


From the start, I have played a selfish and dangerous game, but it worked. I could have played it safe every week and been voted off and left the game thinking


…”damn what could I have done better?”


“ Maybe if I had done that differently…”


I wanted to enjoy my time here, and I did just that. I made friendships and also helped to destroy them. I *Think* I won the most challenges which ensured my place here in the final. I grafted hard. When there was a challenge there, I stuck to it and did my best to make sure I won. Look at the last challenge; people were around the 30k-40k mark as a top score; I went out of my way to smash that with 100k+ to ensure that I would be here today.


So why should you I win Survivor?


In all honesty, I think I am the person that has got the most out of the game. I worked for the team when I had to, and most importantly I looked out for number 1 treading on thin Ice occasionally, but it was a risk that had to be taken. CJ, you have been a great team mate, but when it’s all said and done, and it’s no offense to CJ, Atkens or the Jury, if you looked back and saw what I did, would you have doen the same?


Afterall the name of the game was SURVIVOR



Should Atkens or CJ win instead of you?


Personally, I don’t think so. But after everything I have just said, and finally aired out the closet, I hope you can understand why I did what I did. Maybe if some of you had played the same risky game, then you would be here instead of me.


If anyone but me had to win it, I would say CJ for the win. He played a good game, and never crossed the team one. He was a real team player when it came down to it, and was a wise choice to align myself with him.


Atkens? He was merely a puppet. When we said jump, he asked how high. He was good to keep around so we knew we had that extra vote, but he missed too many challenges and hardly participated. Like I said, it was purely tactic that he is still here over knuckles



So shut the hell up now Blade?

Yeah I will. I have alienated pretty much all of you, and at the end of the day you will either vote me or not. It’s your call.

But remember to ask yourself who has played the better game and who has got the most out of it.

10/10 times you will always come back with the answer of Blade…

[Phil Atken]

I might as well jump in here, as it would seem my master has kindly removed his hand from my ass. Or so he would like to think.

I mean, Blade there has made clear that he put in an astounding amount of effort to get here today. Which is funny, because as I think most of my tribe mates know, I put in very little effort. In fact, on two occasions, I actually threw my hands up before a tribal council and said "hey guys, vote for me, I don't have a problem with it". Yet oddly, I survived.

One of those two times was the last vote. That's funny. It's almost like it was strategy. Nah, can't be. I'm just a big lump of puppet, ain't that right Blade.

Now, why am I here? Am I the most winningest guy who had to save his ass with alliances and contest victories? Am I the quiet partner in the alliances, going along with Blade until the very end?

No I am not.

You see, I'm not Blade. Nor am I CJ. I didn't have to rock the boat ever to get here today. I didn't have to scamper around for support to save my ass. I just merely went with the flow and flew under the radar. I burned through an alliance or two of convenience early on merely because they were convenient. Hell, the night Knuckles tried to kick away CJ, I could've easily kicked went along with it. I decided to vote for Knuckles instead because it amused me to do so. To me, early on, my vote didn't matter but I knew someone would need me in the end.

And low and behold they did.

I was a floating voter but eventually, votes start to matter, and people start needing the free wheeling guys. That's exactly what happened when the tribes merged. Blade, Knuckles and CJ already had their little alliances but they needed my vote for their plan to work and hey, who's going to say no to a ticket to the final four. Blade can call me a puppet all he likes but really, I was a necessity for his own survival as much as he was a necessity for mine. I'm sure we both viewed each other as means to an end. For him to admit that would be to deflate his own ego and bravado.

Which brings me back to why, right now, I'm in the final 3. You know I actually played the Mario game, I actually had a score all ready to submit. Then I remembered something about the way Blade and CJ have always functioned. They like to "keep the weak". So hell, if I'm the weakest, I'm bound to get a ticket to the final 3. I knew if I allowed myself to be seen as the soft case, I'd get to where I'm standing now. I knew that was my way in. I knew exactly how Blade and I'm sure how CJ will explain me to the jurors. "He didn't do anything, he shouldn't win!".

Exactly, I didn't do anything yet here I am because I could read CJ and Blade like a book.

So why should I win? Well, as Blade said. This game is called Survivor. So I suppose it comes down to you, the jury to decide who is the better Survivor. Blade, the man who has to come up with a 1001 plans and schemes to save their ass time and time again? Or should you vote for CJ, the guy in his shadow who just bounds along with everything Blade does until the very end?

Or maybe you should vote for the true Survivor. The one who didn't need immunity to survive, who never needed to even bother seeking an idol. I survived on pure instincts and situational reading alone. I played the tribal game, not the immunity game and if I'm in the final three, I think even those of you who view my as a lazy shit have to agree, I played it well.

In fact, I'd say I played a smarter game than Blade thinks he did. Flying under the radar when you need to is a valuable skill Blade. It's not all about being a bull in a china shop.

So jurors, I ask you to think about voting for me. I'm an actual Survivor. My instincts and my vote are the only things that brought me to this final three, nothing else. I do not believe that CJ Gates or Blade can claim that. I played the smart, long game and feel that due to that, I'm the true Survivor.

You could say a strong player is one who wins the competitions, I would say the strongest player is the one with the smartest game.

Vote Atken.

[President Jeff]

Alright

Once CJ says what he has to say, The Jury can begin to ask questions

[C.J. Gates]

On one side, you have Blade, who did everything in his power to make sure he was seen as the strongest and make sure he was in the finals, and on the other side, you have Atken, who did everything he could to be seen as the weakest so he could make it to the finals.

And right in the middle you have me.

Sure, I didn't win the challenges to make me seem like I was some sort of uber threat to winning the entire thing, and sure, I didn't throw challenges to make me seem like the softy that could be brought along because, if nothing else, they were seen as a hopeless case. However, I still played an honest game. I still played a game that I can sit here and be proud of. I didn't throw anyone under the bus, I didn't lie, I didn't look anyone in the face and give them any false hope. I made sure that everyone I interacted with was at the same level early on in the game. I never led them astray with false clues to save my own ass.

I competed in every challenge, save for the one challenge I missed because of a death in my girlfriends family. I made sure that at the very least, I would give my tribe the chance to win the challenges. Even toward the end, it was still very much Overdrive vs. Asylum and I still gave it as much as I could for the tribe. I didn't throw any challenges because I felt like I could.

I'll be the first to admit that I didn't play a typical game, like winning a lot of challenges or stabbing people in the back. I believe it was Atken that pointed out the possibility that I was just riding a shadow until the time came, but I don't see it that way. Sure, Blade trusted me enough to get to this point and he did everything he could to make sure he never went home, and if it hadn't been for me, Blade wouldn't be sitting here right now.

Is that enough for me to expect your votes?

Probably not. I understand that people will view the game as one would view the game in real life. They will want to vote for the person that has exhibited the best performance in the game, which I'm sure will not be seen as me. I disagree with that, but I can see it already happening. All I can ask of the jurors is to really think about what makes a true winner.

Is it someone who lies his way to the top, essentially stabbing a tiny little knife into everyones backs, everyone who kept him around because they thought he was being honest?

Is it someone who does absolutely nothing for the tribe, stringing himself along until the end, not realizing that he's only in the final three because he is the weaker and more undeserving of the options?

Or is it someone that plays a flawless game, outside of challenge wins. Someone who had not thrown anyone under the bus, who played an honest team game through and through, who gave it his all at every challenge. Someone who wasn't useless or desperate.

I'll leave the final decision in the hands of the jury. You have three options and I'm sure that you will make the right choice.

[President Jeff]

Thanks CJ, Blade and Atkens


Jury, time for your questions to CJ, Blade and Atkens

[Reaver]

ok ill start with the stupid question....

where the fuck was that damn hidden idol? LOL


moving on.....


i swear to god i saw this coming. i should have actually tried at mario instead of just throwing in the towel cuz i didnt like the whole "left handed side of controls." dont believe me? ask kash i told him exactly wast was gonna happen on the phone.

my question to u guys is simple......why should i vote for any of u? sure ya plead ur case but im not convinced yet. according to blade, i was the obvious threat over any of you.

i think i no who im voting for but i just wanna see what else is gonna be said. bad blood? nah, its just a game. i like to think we all had fun rite? i just think its funny that the underdog....the real survivor was seen as the biggest threat and was voted off. I'M SOMEBODIES BITCH!!!

i better take it down a notch or else i might be expected to do something responsible :-p

final question.....we gonna getsig bars saying we played like S&C? since blade is so good at it LOL not to mention i DID make final 4

EDIT:

im also curious blade.....

why me? rite from day 1 u asked to align with me but why? was i really wat u thought i was?

[Nathaniel Havok]

I already know who I'm voting for. Needed no persuasion. Good game, all three of you.

[Nathaniel Havok]

BTW, CJ... Why didn't you call me out for lying to you about Blade? Were you really going to bring me into an alliance? Were you and Blade planning to hang me out to dry? Maybe it's a good thing I got busy and couldn't play! Lol

[SalTal]

Where to start.

None of you were on my team, so you all have about the same chance as the other two. I guess you’ve all got that going for you.

Other than that, there is no love to be lost when I think of you. All of you voted me out, and first. I imagine it’s highly likely that you’ll all say it’s due to me being a ‘threat’ - something I doubt you all actually believe.

What I want to know is why you thought voting out an active person from the game was fair. This was a game to get people engaged, to get people to have fun, and to increase the activity between the members. You all were complicit in voting out me (who was doing all three of those things) before voting out people who were clearly disengaged and inactive.

So that’s the first question: Why did I “deserve” to be voted out before people who were clearly only half in the game?

My next part is going to be addressed to you all individually.

Blade: Your post makes you out to be a great player of the game. So much so that you could think that you had planned it well before the game even took place. That’s how you come off - as being a player better than everyone else. You’ve even gone so far to remind us all that it’s a game of Survivor. Let me remind you that you haven’t survived yet.

You also want to lay a claim to being the winner because you ‘got the most out of it’. That’s fine. You cut Knuckles loose the round before this. At what point did you ‘getting the most out of it’ start to actually be more important than other people getting anything out if this game? Was it all about you getting the most out of it?

CJ: You said you played a flawless game. That’s funny, because you spent some hundreds of words trying to convince the jury that you actually did that. If you had played a flawless game, why then do you need to convince us? If it’s because it’s all behind closed doors (cloak and dagger style) how does than make you any different to Blade - who you have accused of having lied his way to the top?

Atken: Right now, I’m leaning towards voting for you purely because you actually survived to this point by only doing that: Surviving. Sure, some people can play the politics and plotting well. And others can do it through the challenges. But it takes a lot of talent to do nothing special and still get through. I imagine the other two are happy to bring you here because your argument for votes is (in their eyes) the weakest.

So my question for you, now, is this: In light of my belief that you did nothing to get here, is that a good reason to actually vote for you?

[Blade]

To address Knuckles

where the fuck was that damn hidden idol? LOL

Not sure if I can share that information yet, so will leave it up to Jeff to disclose upon completion of the game. You will kick yourself though, because the 2nd clue should have sent you to it, it was only on the 3rd that I realised I was in the right place, I was just being stupid

my question to u guys is simple......why should i vote for any of u? sure ya plead ur case but im not convinced yet. according to blade, i was the obvious threat over any of you.

Yeah we sure you as an obvious threat for the final 3, we didn't know if you had been making friends with the Asylum part of the tribe or what. However, not one of us discussed voting you out this week, it purely was coincidence. You will see that from the QT's.

I won't lie, I had mentioned it the week before, voting you out over Kash, but that never happened

Why should you vote for me?

Deep down, you know you kept me around, along with CJ because you saw we were two of the strongest players, and adding you made us a tripod that to be fair couldn't be broken. I guess it went down to the point where I knew you had tried to screw us both over earlier in the game and had failed.

Knuckles, deep down you will know where you want your vote to go. But seriously, you outlasted everyone else in the Jury you hung with us right up until the death. You know who contributed the most, who played a massive part of the team game and an individual game. Honestly, I am pretty sure of one person you wont vote for, but I could be wrong. But like you said no Bad Blood, and i think you should vote for the person who you think played the better game.

inal question.....we gonna getsig bars saying we played like S&C? since blade is so good at it LOL not to mention i DID make final 4

Haven't been asked yet, but will do if Jeff wants them making up

why me? rite from day 1 u asked to align with me but why? was i really wat u thought i was?

Yeah, the QT's. I knew I forgot something from my original post. On day one, upon starting the game, I started a QT with every single player on the OD Tribe. You never knew when they could come in handy right? Some had lots of posts, others had 1 or 2.

AS the game went along, I knew you were a strong player, but when people didnt follow suit, and you had no choice but to align with CJ and I, it became a good thing to keep you around for as long as we did.

You were strong, but at one point people wouldn't follow you.

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To address Sallly

Why did I “deserve” to be voted out before people who were clearly only half in the game?

Ok, you didnt "deserve" to be voted out.

Upon the tribes merging, it became tactical. We knew that whoever won the first challenge would be able to save their half of the tribe because we had an alliance and a bond (no matter how weak or strong) but it was there.

Why you?

Looking back there was yourself, Kash, Noble, Arcadia and Farquar. At that point in time, I *Think* everyone was still fairly active. It's possible that out of the five, Farquar was the only one who had missed a challenge. From what we knew as a tribe we went off people who we believed to be stronger at individual challenges, we couldn't risk them winning every challenge and stil being in the last 5/4/3.

Unfortunately that was you. It was a team choice, not an individuals. Even though people like Atken and Havok were quiet, they were apart of the old OD tribe and we stood a stronger chance of getting it down with all of us there.

it's obvious from the Votes that you guys (the Asylum Tribe) had the same tactic with Havok and Atken picking up the remainder of the votes, but after sitting in on your Tribal Council one week, we could see that there were breaks in the cement and we all utilized that to our advantage.

If your team was in unison, Atken would have gone home that week, not you.

So, Why you? Yeah we saw you as a threat, which should be taken as a compliment. You were clearly the voice of the old Asylum Tribe which showed from the TC I sat in on. At this point it was from mere snippets of information we had which lead us to vote you off, but it could have been totally different.

Blade: Your post makes you out to be a great player of the game. So much so that you could think that you had planned it well before the game even took place. That’s how you come off - as being a player better than everyone else. You’ve even gone so far to remind us all that it’s a game of Survivor. Let me remind you that you haven’t survived yet.

You also want to lay a claim to being the winner because you ‘got the most out of it’. That’s fine. You cut Knuckles loose the round before this. At what point did you ‘getting the most out of it’ start to actually be more important than other people getting anything out if this game? Was it all about you getting the most out of it?

Lot's of hatred towards Blade, its ok I get it

Look, I had 2 choices upon the game starting.

1) I could be a good team player, go along and work for the team, do the challenges when asked and been a good boy. And then if I had got voted out, I would have been disappointed because I would have seen that as disappointing play on my half.

2) I could do everything to make it interesting for myself, try to make friends and stab people in the back. leaving things to become interesting upon TC's not knowing whether I would survive the vote or not.

I went with option 2 obviously.

I wanted to cause trouble, I wanted to make it interesting. Look at when I had the clue and held it to ransom. There were plenty of other times later in the game, where the winner of a challenge got the clue, So people could have just ignored that and voted me out anyway, but they didn't. I believe I was kept around because when it came down to it, No matter what I had done, I was a strong player.

The things I did made it interesting for me, and made it interesting for others because it actually made them think.

Now go back and look at the end of the game how many votes I actually picked up at Tribal Councils. I never had one vote on me. No one ever voted for me to leave, never. Looking back, I have no clue, everyone had a chance to vote me off, but no one ever did why was that?

I can't answer it, only you guys can. But why not vote me off, everyone had a chance at some point, but I never received a single vote, why?

I could have gone at any point and looked back and thought damn, maybe I could have played it differently, but I have been happy with my play, and others obviously saw me as being strong.

The game is what you made it. If people are sitting there thinking, I didn't get the most out of the game, why was I voted off, then maybe you should look back and rethink your game plan. If people didn't get out of the game what they wanted, then how am I at fault?

Whether I win or lose with this final vote, I really don't care, In my head I played the best game out of everyone and it shows. I worked hard when I needed to, I networked when I had to and I had fun doing it all.

So yeah, I intended to get the most out of the game, but I never stopped anyone else from getting the most out of it, that was all in their hands.

In a roundabout way, i think that answers it. It never became about stopping anyone else from getting anything from the game, that was their call to sit back and do nothing.

[C.J. Gates]

TO KNUCKLES:

Why should you vote for me? Well, I mentioned it already but I played an honest game. You might be wondering why that would warrant a vote, and simply, I didn't tell someone I wanted to align with them and then turn my back on them. I didn't throw anyone under the bus to advance. I was for the Overdrive tribe since the outset and never wavered. I might not have been as cutthroat as Blade and I might not have been thinking four weeks/rounds ahead, and I might not have been content to sit back and coast like Atken, but I feel I played a pretty good game the way I did.


TO HAVOK:

Why didn't I out you? Probably because I didn't have to (I assume you're referring to the first thing you said to me in our QT). If I felt that what you said warranted outting you to the tribe then I would have, but at that point, I knew that a lot of people would throw a lot of BS my way. As far as the alliance portion...its hard to say. Before the real thought of that happened, the fallout with Branden happened during tribal and then the merge shortly after where we all agreed to go Overdrive to the end and then battle it out. During that time you got mod-removed. Would we have brought you into an alliance? It's quite possible. I know that's not the definitive answer you were looking for, but the idea was truly never approached before the merge and then things changed. Would you have been hung out to dry? Well, as Blade mentioned in his write up, the final vote wasn't really discussed, so it would have probably depended if you were seen as a threat as to whether ot not you'd be hung out to dry.


TO SALLY:

Was it fair that you got voted out? In terms of people who were active and probably deserved to be there, the answer would probably be no, but that would probably also paint a target on your back. As far as my mindset as to that vote I remember thinking that there had to be some sort of strong alliance and after I deduced a bit through the people remaining I had a feeling that you might have been the one at the head of that alliance. At the time I believe everyone was active, so when your name was one of the targets, that's what we went with.

As for the question directed to me...I did play a flawless game in the sense that I didn't do anything...wrong. I didn't lie to anyone, I didn't backstab anyone and I didn't throw a challenge because I wanted to. Blade admitted to having lied to the tribe about the clue and he could have lied about alliances and whatnot to throw others under and gain their trust. I did no such thing. So yes, my flawless game might be in QTs and behind closed doors but it's not like I'm lying about it. I've played this game honestly from start to finish. I'm not about to lie now.

[Reaver]

@ CJ

thought id throw this out there but.....

its true u didnt lie. to be honest u were the "nice guy" of the group. the reason for it isnt survival, but simply because blade did all that for u. u didnt HAVE to do any of that since blade was putting in the work of being the "bad guy".

just remember, standing back and doing nothing while a crime is being committed is just as bad as committing said crime. its called criminal facilitation and is just as much a felony as murder in a court of law. since this is a tribal council or "court of law", that would make u just as guilty as blade :-p

[President Jeff]

Last chance to get your questions/Answers in as deadline for this part of the game is tomorrow

[Phil Atken]

I guess the only question out there I can really answer is to Sally.

Sally, you were voted out exactly because you were active. It's not a case of being a threat, or the head of an alliances or any other nonsense Blade and CJ are spitting out, it's purely because you were active. To them, activity is a threat, they would rather keep meat shields around than risk an active player mucking up their plans.

Now, I voted for you, I took a role in that and I can't deny that but at the end of the day, I knew your tribe would be gunning for me because of my lack of activity and really, it was the smart call to go along with the alliance to save my own ass.

This was a continued pattern for them, I had thrown in the idea of voting out inactive players but it was shot down. You were really just the first victim of their "keep the weak" mentality that allowed them to bring me to the final three.

Knuckles, sorry man. I knew what was going on, I knew they'd want to take me to the final if I was viewed as this weak coasting player and if you look at how Blade and CJ framed it, I succeeded in doing that. You were kicked out for trying but that's how these two have operated from day 1.

[Kurt]

I don't know who I'm going to vote for, so this question seals it. I don't care who answers it:

For those of you with the "keep the weak" strategy...Did you pick off strong players individually because you were afraid of the challenge?

[Blade]

Mar 2, 2012 9:53:58 GMT -4 Kurt said:

I don't know who I'm going to vote for, so this question seals it. I don't care who answers it:

For those of you with the "keep the weak" strategy...Did you pick off strong players individually because you were afraid of the challenge?

Right.

Everyone keeps saying the strong players. And Phil atken is doing exactly why I thought he would, Kinda hoping he had stayed quiet this round as well.

Instead of strong players, i will call them "Influential".

As a team.

Not I. Not CJ. Not atken. Not Havok. Not Knuckles.

As a team.

I reiterate that because it was a team decision. it wasn't split. Each week it was put forward a name of the 'other side' would be voted for. Everyone agreed, not Just one person.

So for that, all 3 of us are guilty and we attacked the people we saw as being strong/influential.

Infact, and knuckles will confirm it, and so will our QT. We wanted to get rid of Kash weeks ago, but knuckles fought for him to be kept.

[President Jeff]

Alright Jury, you had your time to speak. CJ, Atkens and Blade, you had your chance to respond to the Jury. It is now time for the Jury to Vote

So Jury, The name you write down is the name who you want to win

I will give you 24 hours to send me your votes

And in the result in a tie, I will ask a player voted out before the merge to cast the final vote.

[President Jeff]

Ok Guys, I’ll now read the votes


What I have is 5 votes. This time, you want to see your name written down. The person with the most votes will be crowned the first ever APW Survivor winner. Ready?


First Vote: BLADE




Second Vote: ATKENS




Third Vote: ATKENS





Fourth vote: BLADE







Fifth Vote and the winner of APW Survivor…….









BLADE!!



Congratulations Blade

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We finally did it. We finally finished this game. I’d love to hear your thoughts on the game and feel free to discuss it. If someone wants to mod Season 2 of APW Survivor, go for it.

Here are everyone’s QT’s (I might be missing a couple but the important ones are there)

Overdrive Tribe
www.quicktopic.com/46/H/UEa6X7xwfGi6V

Asylum Tribe
www.quicktopic.com/46/H/VfR3rZx2xBp

APW Tribe (Merge)
www.quicktopic.com/46/H/FYvPc4fyQLh

Overdrive Tribal
www.quicktopic.com/46/H/n5sniCFBH3Sb

Asylum Tribal
www.quicktopic.com/46/H/W4qRNJAWi4Us3

Blades QT's

Level-One - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/xY9V5JtygEv
CJ - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/t68S2ZyssumCk
Knuckles - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/NFR7E6F7Ne9
Havok - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/vcPUc3bN5RvsR
JamesV - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/yFNmXcfC5c7
Branden - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/PqFxVjq3Ynz
Atkens - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/zkPtK46x6EBP


Branden's QT's

Level One - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/GJPkQg9xckW
JamesV - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/PmHZHny8ZmnT
Havok - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/bwZ4Mn96CyB
Atkens - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/vMHDCCD365rc4
Phil + James - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/cYJRkYBBSHSf2
CJ - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/L2uTGcqTaqM
Knuckles - www.quicktopic.com/46/H/S9iREbDgXK2H5

Sally/Arcadia/Biggs QT = www.quicktopic.com/46/H/8b4p559WVhE

Sally/Arcadia/Noble = www.quicktopic.com/47/H/fSHcWGFpdDGX

CJ and Havok - www.quicktopic.com/47/H/G35nhaUKwYy

Knuckles/CJ/Blade - www.quicktopic.com/47/H/BYsxdJfibzPK



And for the Hidden Immunity Idol

It was found at this link: apwprez.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rotton&action=display&thread=3274

(An image of the idol was in that post)

Hidden Immunity Clue #1

If the Hidden Immunity is what you seek
Then you must paddle up a creek
Hidden somewhere on the boards
Find the Idol and claim your reward


Hidden Immunity Clue #2

As you Paddle upriver
You will encounter something rotten
Looking down at the end
And you will find the idol


It was intended to find the idol with 2 clues. This was the hints in the clue.
In the first Clue, It was to tell you guys that the Idol was hidden somewhere on the boards. The Paddle up a Creek was a small hint to look for the Upriver Wrestling Federation but I didn’t expect anyone to figure that out.

Clue number 2 should have given it away as each line was a clue. Line 1, Upriver (Upriver Wrestling federation). Line 2. Rotton (Name of one of the show) Line 3, Look a the end (The Idol was located at the end of the post)

And since Blade won a 3rd clue, here is what he got that brought him right to the idol.

Hidden Immunity Idol Clue #3 (Final Clue)

Search for a Vault and unlock the door
2-0-0-1 is the code you need to explore
Look at the end and you will get
The Hidden Immunity Idol, now your set


The word Vault was the clue needed.


So Blade did find it, Unfortunately for him, he found it on the last day to play it.


I think that’s all the info I have to share.

Again, I’d love to hear feedback on the game and if anyone has questions for me regarding the game or want any info I may have forgotten to share, just ask.

Thanks to everyone for being active for the majority of the game, this game worked out better than I was expecting and I’m glad we we’re able to finish it.

[Blade]

WOW!!

I really didn't see that one coming. Is this where I give my thank you speech? lol

I really thought Atkens or CJ would take it in the end. I came this far and there really was no point in lying any more, I had to come clean and it looked like it worked in my favour. Some worthy competitors all round which made for an interesting game.

The negative points

- It kind of lagged around Christmas and Just after when we had the break, we had a few casualties due to that.

- Must have sucked to be voted out so early on, nothing really to do apart from watch, but I hope people played the challenges anyway?


The Positives

- Great set up. Great challenges.

- Awesome competition between participants. Nothing was ever negative and taken with spirit of the game (I hope)

- Tribal Council's were interesting when people were participating

- The use of QT's for people to set up their own alliances worked well



Maybe one thing could have been a QT for voted out players to continue discussing the game.

I would definitely play this again, and would also be up for running one with someone else if anyone else is interested.

Kudos to Jeff and Rebel for their hard work...

P.S.

I forget which week it was, but we still haven't had the results of the voters for one of the TC's. Can we get those if you still have them please? I am intrigues into whether I actually received any votes on any week, and that is the only one missing

[Nathaniel Havok]

I'll be dead honest... I voted for Blade. Let's face it... THE MAN TURNED ON THE TRIBE FROM DAY 1... AND STILL MADE IT TO THE FINALS!

In my book, that won him the game.

He hid his selfish act from the tribe, but was never voted off (he as very smart about it). I don't think that if anyone else would have hidden it, they would have survived. Blade played one hell of a game!

[Jules]

I agree with much of what Blade said about the game, I enjoyed the game even though it did lose a bit of steam post-Christmas and would play again.

My only criticism would be the challenges were sometimes a bit samey. I would like to have had more problem solving and knowledge-based challenges, rather than skill-based ones that mostly tested eye-hand co-ordination (not a strength of mine).

Other than that I think Jeff and Rebel did a good job of organising this.

Well done to Blade, I expected him to win after the challenge about answering questions about other players, he seemed to get through that unscathed and he is a popular guy on the boards. I forgot to vote but probably would have voted for Atken, just because his game play was under-rated and he was the underdog in that final. I guess there is a lesson learnt in always voting considering how close the final vote was.

[T-Marv]

Congrats blade......

One question though.... When's the next one? LOL

[Reaver]

ok well i figured id better address this post game all things considered.

it was me that got blade the win.

sounds selfish rite? i had the choice between atken or blade (sorry gates) simply because of the styles. atken on 1 hand avoided the storm all together. he didnt try. isnt that part of the game? where as blade went headfirst into the storm. well played sir.

i had devised a plan early on in the game to eliminate gate (since i guess that gates and blade had an alliance, and i was rite) but somehow my plan fell thru all thanx to branden. i had come clean about wat i had done to both gates and blade and had seriously offered to leave but they decided to keep me on to the finals....or so i thought.

the plan was to eliminate everybody being the final 3 and, according to blade, eliminate him so its me and gates in the end. seeing as how their alliance would never allow such a thing i just geared myself up for a final 3 and just accepted the fact that i wasnt going to win. i had hoped that me work would have enabled me at LEAST the final 3 but as predicted, i was eliminated rite b4 the finals although i didnt plan on a final consisting of 3 members rather than 2. factoring all things in, i had predicted properly.

the final challenge of mario bros, i could have easily done it but as stated b4, i gave up since im not a left handed player (im a righty, my social life can attest to that......ewwww yes i went there) so since the controls werent changable, i decided to just accept my fate and hoped i was wrong when i voted for atken.

the finals consisting of atken, gate, and blade was fairly a no brainer. blade dove in from the start and took the heat as momentum instead of demise and that to me was the definition of the game. i almost forgot to vote but jeff reminded me (thanx jeff )so i decided that even though i had been betrayed, it was expected. id like to think i did very well. it was me who decided all of the outcomes and if anybody deserved to survive, its the survivor lol.

on a personal note, Kash wanted me to mention how INFLUENTIAL he is, he wasnt around to get people to vote for him and without lifting a single finger, got 3 votes. he beat myself and atken without bribing, begging, or pointing fingers.

although it seems as if i was defending him, i wasnt. i knew he couldnt get online and saw everybody else as a threat where kash wasnt. it was thought that i would form an alliance with him and get the asylum tribe on my side, but i wanted OD to win.

[Johnny Rebel]

Credit to this one goes to Jeff... unfortunately, real life got in the way and I just lost steam.

Well done to all who participated and a fun game for sure. I'd like to participate in the next one!

[C.J. Gates]

Congrats Blade!

I knew that I wasn't going to win the game. I wanted to try being honest early on and see if that could at least buy me time in the game, and oddly enough it did. And then when the opportune times to actually kick it up a notch, the game got slow, and interest waned and in the end, I realized I wouldn't possibly win.

All the same, congrats to Blade.

And props to Jeff for running it. Was long and laborious, and there were a few inconsistencies that irked me (namely Tribal Council. I know you post the TC link in each tribe QT but doing so when announcing the next TC would have helped wonders to avoid having to backtrack. And then there was the one TC that was never announced).

Also, to Havok...It made me laugh. Everyone didn't trust Blade because of his selfish play, yet when he asked everyone to buy him one more day and he'd share the clue...everyone listened. Really? If people didn't trust him before that, why trust him to tell you the clue? That is what through me and I think that was the week when it became Blade's game to lose, IMO.

All in all well done.

[Phil Atken]

Gotta admit, I'm surprised and happy that I managed to score some votes from the jury, I was certain it was going to be a Blade based blood bath, so thank you to whoever

Little secret, I just didn't have time to play Mario but when I saw I was in the final, I felt I could try and build a narrative around CJ and Blade and how I was smart enough to play into it. It's partially true in so far as I believed Knuckles would've been gone anyway but it wasn't quite the masterstroke I was trying to claim. The narrative took off for a few members of the jury it would seem, so I'm very happy with my play in the final jury Q&A.

Blade deserved his win, especially for his little clue scheme, I never trusted the promise of these clues (and I wasn't lying, I didn't even bother looking for the idol) but he managed to take all the heat off him by doing it. His strong play in the games after that really cemented it in my mind for Blade. Hell, if I was on the jury, I'd have voted for Blade.

I would like to thank Jeff and Rebbyrebmeister for running this little show throughout, most of the time it was great fun and then only times it wasn't was when I screwed myself over by being busy.

I'm calling this a second place victory for the lazy underdog! Yay! Congrats to CJ too, he played a smart game all the way through.

[SalTal]

Everything's been prettying said. I'd like to emphasise the lag bit. And also that when you're voted out early you/ I pretty much stopped paying attention to the game until the jury questions.

Well done to Blade. I ended up voting for you on the basis of (and you can check the QT) that Atken wax so slow in replying to my question. Deserved win, and congrats.