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Post by Jules on Apr 19, 2012 10:24:56 GMT -4
Just scanning through the day 2 posts to see if I could find anything pertaining to C.J. I found this. IF and I will say that this is a somewhat big if, Blade is telling the truth that if Knuckles bit him, or however he put it, that there is a nexus or a bus driver...could there be merit to it? I'm not trying to derail it, but the person I sent my night action in on wasn't who it ended up being used on (though the person who it was used on was none of Blade, Knuckles or James). I can't say for sure that there is anything to it, but with Blade mentioning it, I figured I'd throw it out there. It means I am willing to let my FoS on both C.J. and Blade slide. For the time being I have to give you guys the benefit of the doubt. It does mean. 1. There is a bus driver (since I am not, as far as I know, in any way a nexus) or/ 2. My role does redirect/misdirect actions, but I haven't been told about this. or/ 3. C.J. and Blade are working together, and using this misdirection story to support each other. Not a lot of evidence to support this though. It would be helpful to utterly dispel three if those people that did get targeted by C.J. and Blade's actions to confirm this if possible, obviously without giving away any info about roles, powers etc. (I'm not role-fishing here). |
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Post by Smash INC on Apr 19, 2012 10:25:06 GMT -4
I've got a confirmation that Blade was lying about being bitten by Knuckles.
I trust the source 100% and with this source I can ascertain from the night results (Shannon biting Rachel) and supporting evidence (Kurt's intel on Knuckles from day 2) that Blade is the cult recruiter. I feel that the reason the lynch on Blade stalled yesterday was more to semantics than anything else, the night results said the bite was unsuccessful but what I have says it was. I think both statements are true, insofar as Knuckles went to bite Blade and succeeded (insofar as he wasn't blocked) but was converted via Blade's defensive ability (which explains the success/failure).
I feel like I'm connecting too many dots there but the core of this is simple. I know Blade was lying about the bite, I have a confirmation of this I can put faith in and with that confirmation, Blade's defence crumbles.
I was working from one piece of supporting evidence yesterday, I'm now working from a piece of evidence I can trust. Blade was the one bitten on night one and when you look at the night results it is easy to piece it all together. My gut instinct was right and with the confirm that Blade was bitten, I know my vote.
Vote: Blade
I'm not changing or dropping the vote.
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Post by Jules on Apr 19, 2012 10:26:37 GMT -4
certain powers won't work against me I'm thinking that this is going to end up accounting for our confusion, me thinks. Re-read the night 1 write-up. It should be obvious from that. |
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Post by Blade on Apr 19, 2012 10:27:17 GMT -4
Really all this again?
I dont have the interest to discuss it anymore
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Post by Smash INC on Apr 19, 2012 10:30:24 GMT -4
Really all this again? I dont have the interest to discuss it anymore You don't have to, a self-vote would be sufficient. |
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Post by Blade on Apr 19, 2012 10:32:06 GMT -4
Really all this again? I dont have the interest to discuss it anymore You don't have to, a self-vote would be sufficient. Whoever has fucked with me, congratulations you really are the MVP of this game |
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Post by Jules on Apr 19, 2012 10:33:34 GMT -4
Really all this again? I dont have the interest to discuss it anymore You said you did target someone successfully. I think it might be time you had it confirmed beyond doubt that the person you successfully targeted was not Kurt Noble. |
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Post by Blade on Apr 19, 2012 10:36:13 GMT -4
This is where whoever fucked with me got it bang on.
My action was successful on Knuckles
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Post by SalTal on Apr 19, 2012 10:39:43 GMT -4
I've got a confirmation that Blade was lying about being bitten by Knuckles. Saint, I'm assuming you're being secretive for one of two reason: 1) You're trying to avoid being targeted by the scum/third party next night because your power is pretty darn good. o2 2) You're trying to protect this 'source' from being targeted. That said, I think you're going to have to spill your 'source' here. You have it confirmed that an action two nights ago happened? I'd really like to know how you did that or at the least what you've got that's really such hard evidence. Because, as far as I'm concerned, your claims here that Blade definitely was involved in the biting and is the recruiter holds as much water as his denial. And unless you're looking to give Blade more and more time and his buddies more and more time to convince us that he's not scum (as what happened last day phase) you'd be best to spill a little more detail. As for this: I think it might be time you had it confirmed beyond doubt that the person you successfully targeted was not Kurt Noble. This might be the second most important thing that needs answering right now. |
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Post by SalTal on Apr 19, 2012 10:40:16 GMT -4
EWOP
Didn't see Blade's response. Disregard that last comment about the quote.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Apr 19, 2012 10:46:01 GMT -4
I reserve the right to change this by Saturday night if new information comes out about Knuckles. But that self-vote reeks of someone either getting caught red-handed or getting tired of the game; either way, it doesn't reflect well on him.
VOTE: Blade
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Post by Jules on Apr 19, 2012 10:46:13 GMT -4
Really all this again? I dont have the interest to discuss it anymore You said you did target someone successfully. I think it might be time you had it confirmed beyond doubt that the person you successfully targeted was not Kurt Noble. Ignore this. This is me having one of my 'moron moments'. The second sentence doesn't even make any sense. |
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Post by Reaver on Apr 19, 2012 10:46:49 GMT -4
hey guys, sorry (i guess) for not posting sooner. i just woke up and caught up even tho its still moving fast. dont expect alot of posts from me the next 3 days since i have a HUGE garden expo to attend and have alot of chocolates to make for it. in essence tho, my business license was APPROVED (yay me). moving on..... i appreciate the wait rebel and the orange next to ur name looks good  also.....WB AC, i think it was BS that u were silenced without saying anything. GUB is a douche. im really at a loss here. i really dont think blade is scum or other. people r very quick to jump at somebody, especially since the last game was so rough. wat i think needs to happen is that everybody needs to take a deep breathe and focus. wat id like to no is who farq targeted the past couple nites if he has the power to redirect in some way. |
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Post by SalTal on Apr 19, 2012 10:50:00 GMT -4
Ignore this. This is me having one of my 'moron moments'. The second sentence doesn't even make any sense. So it wasn't just me who had no idea what it meant. Anyway, it got a response from Blade. Does it work with your information? Anyway, Knuckles, Farq is claiming to not have any serious deflection powers, and i'm backing up that claim. The only people who are/were trying to push that line was Blade ... and now you. And you two were at the centre of the storm before. |
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Post by Jules on Apr 19, 2012 10:51:29 GMT -4
I think you're going to have to spill your 'source' here. If my interpretation of what Keaton is saying is correct then wouldn't his source be the moderator? (Maybe I am thinking too literally.) If I am correct, this info should answer your query. |
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Post by SalTal on Apr 19, 2012 10:54:54 GMT -4
I think you're going to have to spill your 'source' here. If my interpretation of what Keaton is saying is correct then wouldn't his source be the moderator? (Maybe I am thinking too literally.) If I am correct, this info should answer your query. Ahk, sorry, I hadn't thought along those lines (though I should have ... deer!). If it was the result of a night acton that can't be disclosed (because an investigative one can be, as far as I remember clearing up the rules on the first page went) then all he has to say is night action. If he has investigated, he can simply say "I investigated" without any real punishment. But, yeah, should have realised he probably meant moderator. My bad. |
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Post by Reaver on Apr 19, 2012 10:56:56 GMT -4
maybe i missed it then, sorry.
also....ill be popping in and out randomly to help out where i can.
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Post by Blade on Apr 19, 2012 10:58:30 GMT -4
Hey guys, I'm cool with being lynched
At least then it will clear EVERYTHING up and you can really look hard at all of these people that have come forward with 'information' about me because they really will have no wiggle room when I flip town.
Maybe that is the only way the town could possibly win the.
But a mis lynch today, a kill and a recruit that pretty much means end game right?
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Post by SalTal on Apr 19, 2012 11:03:52 GMT -4
Hey guys, I'm cool with being lynched At least then it will clear EVERYTHING up and you can really look hard at all of these people that have come forward with 'information' about me because they really will have no wiggle room when I flip town. Maybe that is the only way the town could possibly win the. But a mis lynch today, a kill and a recruit that pretty much means end game right? To be fair Blade, Keaton has voted for you with claims of new information (which I doubt has anyone won over yet) and AC has voted for you - likely a trigger finger because he was silenced form it all last time. Oh, and you voted for yourself. Rather than throwing in the town time and time again in an 'I give up' sort of thing, why not help the people out who still aren't convinced on you. You said you night action'd Knuckles - what did you do (if you can say)? Was it successful? Will Knuckles know about it? Was it the same thing you did to JamesV? You could help by adding to the conversation, rather than just throwing your hands up. |
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Post by Jules on Apr 19, 2012 11:08:55 GMT -4
it got a response from Blade. Does it work with your information? I don't know atm. I know (from the night 1 write-up) that somebody targeted me on night 1 and they failed (as the write-up tells us). C.J. says he targeted me, but was misdirected. Might be a good time for C.J. to clarify this a little bit. Who did you target? Would that person be able to confirm this? (obviously without giving anything away or doing something you shouldn't be doing.) This will help to clear up a lingering loose end on my part. Blade says he targeted Knuckles last night. Knuckles hasn't confirmed or denied he was targeted. Blade seemed to be hinting RBer during day 2; wouldn't it make sense for Knuckles to come out and say 'I was RBed last night'....but he didn't, and he usually does when he has been. That in itself is peculiar. But maybe Blade wasn't hinting RBer and I misread that. Keaton says Knuckles did bite Blade, and as a result of this action Blade recruited Knuckles. If this is true, Blade saying he targeted Knuckles is a good out if indeed he has already recruited Knuckles. That way, if Blade is recruiter and he recruited last night he doesn't have to name that person. Knuckles could back him up and all looks kosher. Blade's self-vote is bizarre and it does smack of resignation, and he does not strike me as a guy who gives up easily. Why would you fight so hard one day and completely give up the next if you really were innocent? I feel I still need to dot a few i's and cross a few t's before I decide what next. |
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Post by Blade on Apr 19, 2012 11:09:14 GMT -4
It's the same night action. And if knuckles had a night action it wouldn't have worked
There are too many inconsistencies that hinder me.
What I don't get is why all this effort just to frame me?
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 19, 2012 11:10:52 GMT -4
wat id like to no is who farq targeted the past couple nites if he has the power to redirect in some way. This. I would also like to know. After Farq answers, if he can, I will answer who my ability was successful on night one. The only reason? Could it be at all possible that whomever targets Jules ends up having their action done to Jules' targets? Or is that too out there? Regardless, the Blade lynch might look best. I was torn between him and Knuckles last day, and went with Gub because I knew we wouldn't get a lynch on Blade since everyone voting Gub was anti-the Knuckles/Blade movement. New information coming out might help that, but before I lay down a vote I am going to wait to hear from others, maybe most notably, Noble, who Blade is saying got recruited. Also, to Jules for pointing at me being the hammer. I think counting the votes, it would have been you, but I also think we have a double voter. It's based off of no evidence (since I don't know the flavor) other then Rudy Wade and Rudy Wade's emotional side. It could be two people, but, and this is directed to those who know the flavor, is there a chance both were given to one person as a double voter? |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 19, 2012 11:12:51 GMT -4
EWOP
My role was unsuccessful last night. I didn't get an inconclusive, just an unsuccessful. Makes me think I was roleblocked in some capacity.
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Post by Jules on Apr 19, 2012 11:23:03 GMT -4
wat id like to no is who farq targeted the past couple nites if he has the power to redirect in some way. This. I would also like to know. After Farq answers, if he can, I will answer who my ability was successful on night one. The only reason? Could it be at all possible that whomever targets Jules ends up having their action done to Jules' targets? Or is that too out there? I can tell you that this (in bold) isn't correct. Not sure how much I can reveal without it being classed as role-claiming, but from what I've said already, and by looking again at the night 1 write-up you will understand why I am still here. Also, to Jules for pointing at me being the hammer. I think counting the votes, it would have been you, but I also think we have a double voter. It's based off of no evidence (since I don't know the flavor) other then Rudy Wade and Rudy Wade's emotional side. It could be two people, but, and this is directed to those who know the flavor, is there a chance both were given to one person as a double voter? I agree about the double-voter and I think I know who it is (not that this is relevant atm). |
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Post by Jules on Apr 19, 2012 11:24:25 GMT -4
What I don't get is why all this effort just to frame me? A good point. Maybe nobody is. |
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Post by Blade on Apr 19, 2012 11:24:37 GMT -4
Yeah, you are Nathan i get it.
But I don't understand the role.
Especially if my role got redirected and Sally's wasn't
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Post by A.C. Smith on Apr 19, 2012 11:25:53 GMT -4
also.....WB AC, i think it was BS that u were silenced without saying anything. GUB is a douche. Just saw this; thanks Knuckles! The whole thing just seemed strange to me. One would think you'd use an ability to silence to silence someone that actually had a reputation of being a tough, solid player. I guess the "folksy charm" I spoke of on day one turned him off! Anyway, back to the game... Like I said, I'm not 100% sure on Blade, and I did say I'd potentially change my vote if new information came out. But here's what we have. (a) Blade was almost lynched on day two due to speculation about the night activities (which I won't go into since we've got most of 18 pages doing that for me already!). (b) He barely held on when Gub's behavior turned off enough people for a lynch. (c) Gub turned up town. (d) Blade once again became a target (naturally). (e) He voted for himself. We don't know why Blade voted for himself, and even if he tries to explain it away, he still could be lying (what good player would say they're scum that got caught red-handed, even if it was true?). I'm not trying to frame anyone here, but going off the pattern above, I think Blade's the smartest pick for a lynch that we have right now. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 19, 2012 11:29:20 GMT -4
This. I would also like to know. After Farq answers, if he can, I will answer who my ability was successful on night one. The only reason? Could it be at all possible that whomever targets Jules ends up having their action done to Jules' targets? Or is that too out there? I can tell you that this (in bold) isn't correct. Not sure how much I can reveal without it being classed as role-claiming, but from what I've said already, and by looking again at the night 1 write-up you will understand why I am still here. If I think you're hinting at what you're hinting at, it would (or at least could) explain why my night action got redirected off of you. I'm hopeful that this won't be too much but I targeted you and got Jeff instead on night one. Every time I think about this it comes back to Blade. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 19, 2012 11:30:26 GMT -4
EWOP
I meant, every time I think about the situation with Noble/Knuckles/Blade, Blade ends up sticking out to me. Add in Saint's solid information, and I'm leaning more toward voting Blade tonight when I get home.
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Post by Blade on Apr 19, 2012 11:30:36 GMT -4
also.....WB AC, i think it was BS that u were silenced without saying anything. GUB is a douche. Just saw this; thanks Knuckles! The whole thing just seemed strange to me. One would think you'd use an ability to silence to silence someone that actually had a reputation of being a tough, solid player. I guess the "folksy charm" I spoke of on day one turned him off! Anyway, back to the game... Like I said, I'm not 100% sure on Blade, and I did say I'd potentially change my vote if new information came out. But here's what we have. (a) Blade was almost lynched on day two due to speculation about the night activities (which I won't go into since we've got most of 18 pages doing that for me already!). (b) He barely held on when Gub's behavior turned off enough people for a lynch. (c) Gub turned up town. (d) Blade once again became a target (naturally). (e) He voted for himself. We don't know why Blade voted for himself, and even if he tries to explain it away, he still could be lying (what good player would say they're scum that got caught red-handed, even if it was true?). I'm not trying to frame anyone here, but going off the pattern above, I think Blade's the smartest pick for a lynch that we have right now. I answered your question already Smithy. I am tired after yesterdays events. Keaton has come out with the same attitude and this magical "source" Noble will more and likely come out to the tune of the same bell (even though he has been recruited now) |
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IF and I will say that this is a somewhat big if, Blade is telling the truth that if Knuckles bit him, or however he put it, that there is a nexus or a bus driver...could there be merit to it? I'm not trying to derail it, but the person I sent my night action in on wasn't who it ended up being used on (though the person who it was used on was none of Blade, Knuckles or James). I can't say for sure that there is anything to it, but with Blade mentioning it, I figured I'd throw it out there.
