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Post by Level-Two on May 4, 2012 1:51:42 GMT -4
Yeah and what exactly are you trying to say when you over complicate the issue, then?
You are over complicating the issue by saying it's unlikely three people target her on the same night. Again - all that happened is I visited her and the mafia killed her. If she was cleaned up - then that was in relation to the kill and thus in reality only one other ''entity'' would have visited her in that scenerio - which has been my EXACT defence all along.
If you said you found it suspicious that I visited Sally on the night she died - it would have made more sense and that was all that is really needed. I don't see why you need to overcomplicate things to support your suspicions against me.
I never said that. What I mean was - I have been as straight forward as I could possibly about visiting Sally short of admitting it BEFORE Kurt said I did.
Anyways, why the long face pouting saying no one ever believes you? Last time I checked you weren't the one seen visiting sally the night she died nor are you having to play defence - rather your charging forward on the offence.
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Post by C.J. Gates on May 4, 2012 2:00:05 GMT -4
Ah gotcha. I didn't know if you meant to say Kurt visited her or what, but that makes more sense since you did come out about it before Kurt did.
And it's more frustration with the games here, since I'm usually believed after everyone else, even if I have a valid point. I'm not trying to over complicate anything, I'm simply stating my thoughts. Do I think there is a janitor? Yes. Do I think that you had a hand in her death? Yes. Am I suspicious of you? Yes.
Vote: Level One
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Post by Level-Two on May 4, 2012 2:08:07 GMT -4
What? What did info did i come out with BEFORE Kurt? Are you even comprehending what I have been writing to you? Apparently you didn't because I never said this either. No surprise you followed it up with an equally uninformed vote.
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Post by Reaver on May 4, 2012 2:56:55 GMT -4
lmfao did nobody see this? again people complain about MY spelling? lol <3
moving on....
Vote: Level One
its awfully convenient that u visited sally and now shes dead. goin back n forth with gates didnt help ur case but the fact that james has been defending u and tryin to steer us away from the OBVIOUS facts shows me that L-O and JamesV r scum buddies. cap 1 then cap the other. would leave us down 2 scummers leaving 1 scum and however many 3rd party.
wats funny is that u mention kurt bein a watcher but i didnt see him say anything bout him bein 1 NOR has he said he watched u.
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Post by Level-Two on May 4, 2012 4:09:08 GMT -4
lmfao did nobody see this? again people complain about MY spelling? lol <3 moving on.... Vote: Level Oneits awfully convenient that u visited sally and now shes dead. goin back n forth with gates didnt help ur case but the fact that james has been defending u and tryin to steer us away from the OBVIOUS facts shows me that L-O and JamesV r scum buddies. cap 1 then cap the other. would leave us down 2 scummers leaving 1 scum and however many 3rd party. wats funny is that u mention kurt bein a watcher but i didnt see him say anything bout him bein 1 NOR has he said he watched u. There is so many things wrong with this - I don't know where to begin. Yeah - because two veteran players - both scum - are going to make it overtly obvious that they are working together a day into the game, right? At no point did JamesV even defend me, anyways. Oh noes, you got me.  He didn't need to. I have reading comprehension skills. It's called putting two and two together. I knew I visited Sally and thus I knew exactly what he was referring too. Unfortunately scum can't explain that one away. Your case is an absolute joke but based off past games, it'll still be about enough for a mislynch. |
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Post by Blade on May 4, 2012 6:42:19 GMT -4
Ok, so after the day 1 phase that went nowhere lets see what day two brings. Things that jump out to me... I have nothing to add right now where I got no info from last night Every game, Jeff never has anything to add at the start of day 2. Either really unlucky with night actions, has no action or is scum/3rd party... We have Sally dead who looks like she has been Janitored. This can be devastating because this could throw the whole game into chaos because no one knows who they are lynching/killing That is dependant on the power of the Janitor. it could just be a night clean, but if it affects the lynches as well, the game could be over before it even begins. From experience a Janitor cannot be blocked, it is only when they are killed that the dead people are revealed. ____________ Kurt can clear things up and it either helps or kills L-1's case. Kurt, did you target Sally or L-1? If he targeted Sally then he is more than likely a watcher and saw L-1 visit Sally and was the only one to target sally If he targeted L-1, more than likely a watcher/tracker but would only see what L-1 does, not if anyone else visited Sally |
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Post by Johnny Rebel on May 4, 2012 7:23:30 GMT -4
Ok, so after the day 1 phase that went nowhere lets see what day two brings. Things that jump out to me... I have nothing to add right now where I got no info from last night Every game, Jeff never has anything to add at the start of day 2. Either really unlucky with night actions, has no action or is scum/3rd party... I had the same feeling -- and thought I'd so some investigating but somehow I was sent elsewhere seeing someone else visit Kurt Noble. I'll let them out themselves. Either A) Jeff has a role that doesn't allow him to be followed or B) I was bus driven. I'm going with my gut and sticking with A. Vote: President Jeff |
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Post by T-Marv on May 4, 2012 8:54:04 GMT -4
Yogurt: Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made. Spaceballs-the T-shirt, Spaceballs-the Coloring Book, Spaceballs-the Lunch box, Spaceballs-the Breakfast Cereal, Spaceballs-the Flame Thrower. [turns it on] Dink, Dink, Dink, Dink, Dink, Dink: Ooooh! Yogurt: [reacts to dinks] The kids love this one.
Yogurt: And last but not least, Spaceballs the doll, me.
[pulls string]
Doll: May the schwartz be with you!
Yogurt: [kisses the doll] Adorable.
VOTE COUNT:
Level One - 2 (CJ Gates, Knuckles)
President Jeff - 1 (Rebel)
still over 48 hrs till deadline. Plenty of time.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on May 4, 2012 8:54:45 GMT -4
Jesus so much bickering. Honestly I don't like the coincidence of Lester visiting Sally who turned up dead, but I want to hear from Kurt first...mainly because, acidic edge aside, Lester is perfectly valid in his defense against Knuckles. (Seriously buddy, open your eyes when you're reading. It helps.) Ceej and Lester arguing has burned up a lot of daylight, and frankly I'm not a fan of either at the moment.
That said...I'm kind of with J-Reb at the moment. Why would he come out and say he got no info from last night? Obviously because he doesn't, but the way it's worded is so odd. It sounds like he's got a power role, used it, and failed. If that's true, why would you come out and say that on day 2? I'm no expert, but it seems more prudent to keep that close to your chest until you DO have something.
Unless you'll never have anything because that means outing your team.
It's risky, but I've said we need to play aggressive, so here's the follow through.
Vote: President Jeff
(P.S.: Blade, only one kill was cleaned up, so I don't think the lynches are gonna' be covered. I could be wrong, but if the lynches would be cleaned up, I'd think that the third party kills would be cleaned up, too. All mods mod differently, but it makes sense to me.)
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Post by T-Marv on May 4, 2012 9:16:39 GMT -4
Day 2 Mini Game - How Well do you Know your mod? Alright Folks, it's that time again. All these questions are about your wonderful and loving Mafia Mod.  PM me your answers. The person with the most right at the end of day 2 will receive a prize. (some of these will be multiple choice) 1. How long have I been Efedding? a. 6 years b. 8 years c. 10 years d. 12 years 2. Am I Married? 3. Do I have any kids? If Yes, how many. 4. What is my Real first name? a. Tony b. Terry c. Chris d. Shane e. None of the Above 5. How Old am I (No cheating mods!!!!)? 6. What is my profession? a. Accountant b. IT Professional c. Journalist d. Paralegal c. Unemployed 7. What fed did The Real Show first win a world championship? a. Rukkkus Wrestling Federation b. Revolution Wrestling Federation c. Pro Wrestling X d. Connecticut Forum Wrestling e. Ring of Pride Wrestling Well there you have it folks. Is it a little self indulgent? Yep, but it's a fun little quiz and has nothing to do with the Movie (since Sally pointed out that half of you haven't seen it) and it's not really something you can google, though you can try.... googling Terry Marvin is not a pretty sight and will not lead you to me. |
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Post by A.C. Smith on May 4, 2012 9:27:07 GMT -4
My thoughts on all the bickering:
(Waiting for the laughing to stop.)
(We good?)
(Good.)
Anyway, I'm not voting yet. It's true that Jeff is playing this game exactly like the last one, but that may just be his style as opposed to him trying to cover something up. I'm suspicious, yes, but not suspicious enough to cast a vote yet.
And I'm also making a concerted effort not to get involved in everyone else getting WAY overly defensive. Not crazy about all the bickering, especially when we all need to think with clear heads and lynch the scum in our presence.
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Post by C.J. Gates on May 4, 2012 9:39:58 GMT -4
What? What did info did i come out with BEFORE Kurt? Are you even comprehending what I have been writing to you? Apparently you didn't because I never said this either. No surprise you followed it up with an equally uninformed vote. Yes, I misread it, and when I went back I realized I had. However, that doesn't change my vote, since my vote is on you because you visited Sally the night she died. |
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Post by Reaver on May 4, 2012 12:07:09 GMT -4
i still find it odd that nobody else is jumping on this......L-O visited Sally and shes now dead. HELLO! he openly admitted it. does nobody else see this as a problem? people r really sticking their necks out, if i'm wrong then im on the chopping block rite? i may not be so sure about james but certainly L-O. we cannot afford to lose this game to anti-town (ie: scum or 3rd party)
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Post by Kaji Fireson on May 4, 2012 12:39:54 GMT -4
i still find it odd that nobody else is jumping on this......L-O visited Sally and shes now dead. HELLO! he openly admitted it. does nobody else see this as a problem? people r really sticking their necks out, if i'm wrong then im on the chopping block rite? i may not be so sure about james but certainly L-O. we cannot afford to lose this game to anti-town (ie: scum or 3rd party) Knuckles, what the flying fuck do you think Ceej has been drilling Lester about for the past two pages? We are all aware that Lester visited Sally, by his own admission, the night she died. However, maybe I'm not going meta enough, but I'm not sure I want to vote someone who openly admits to visiting the one that died. If I were mafia, I think I would try to shift the attention to something else, and Lester has definitely not done that. If he's anti-town, fine, he got me. It's not hard to do. But I'm not buying Lester as 100% confirmed bad guy. |
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Post by Blade on May 4, 2012 12:40:50 GMT -4
i still find it odd that nobody else is jumping on this......L-O visited Sally and shes now dead. HELLO! he openly admitted it. does nobody else see this as a problem? people r really sticking their necks out, if i'm wrong then im on the chopping block rite? i may not be so sure about james but certainly L-O. we cannot afford to lose this game to anti-town (ie: scum or 3rd party) Knuckles, Calm down buddy you may have a heart attack. From what Kurt said L-1 visited Sally, and L-1 has admitted that, yes. However, did Kurt target Sally or L-1? That is the question that needs to be answered, before anything gets my vote. |
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Post by Reaver on May 4, 2012 13:01:59 GMT -4
*sigh* fair enuff, i guess im excited cuz of the flavor of the game. need we not forget that terry is modding MY IDEA and perfecting it nicely. (well done sir) and since im such a spaceballs expert, i kinda feel its my duty for the town win
kurt, we can surely use ya man get on and help us figure this out plz.
#heartattack
fyi, ill be busy for the next 8 hrs or so, so i wont be around much if at all.
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Post by Michael Callahan on May 4, 2012 13:13:55 GMT -4
*sigh* fair enuff, i guess im excited cuz of the flavor of the game. need we not forget that terry is modding MY IDEA and perfecting it nicely. (well done sir) and since im such a spaceballs expert, i kinda feel its my duty for the town win kurt, we can surely use ya man get on and help us figure this out plz. #heartattack fyi, ill be busy for the next 8 hrs or so, so i wont be around much if at all. Or, you're being overly aggressive because you have something to hide? Throwing up red flags when there really is no red flag about? I don't know but I'm definitely wary of you Knucks. |
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Post by Kurt on May 4, 2012 14:53:30 GMT -4
Gonna clarify some things. I purposefully left some information out to see reactions. They were as expected. Knuckles, I wasn’t the last one to see Sally because I know someone else visited her in addition to me. I understand it’s a coincidence but no more of a coincidence then what you have put forth assuming that I am the killer and noble caught me in the act on day one. False. No one else visited Sally Talfourd last night. Just you. You have agreed that my information is valid because I correctly saw you visit Sally Talfourd, but... Ok, so after the day 1 phase that went nowhere lets see what day two brings. Kurt can clear things up and it either helps or kills L-1's case. Kurt, did you target Sally or L-1? If he targeted Sally then he is more than likely a watcher and saw L-1 visit Sally and was the only one to target sally If he targeted L-1, more than likely a watcher/tracker but would only see what L-1 does, not if anyone else visited Sally I did not target L1. I targeted Sally. I won't say what I was doing, but it should be fairly obvious at this point. The expected counter-claim to you, L1, being the only one to visit Sally is that she was killed/cleaned up, which is two roles. However... Gates, you do realize that the janitor clean up is automatic, right? Meaning that it'll happen no matter what unless the janitor is blocked, i.e. won't show up as a target action. That's just going by my own experience in mafia. Also I NEVER said I was framed, you did. I said it was a Set-Up Kill and explained what that is. Love how you reworded it to use the word framed instead of set-up to get the wheels turning about a possible framer role in the game. Only explanation for that wording as far as I can tell. That. Would not show up as a visit if it's automatic. It would just happen, hence why you Sally was only visited by you, and she's now dead. You claim a power role, which we know is not: - A doctor - A cop - A bus driver Leaves two obvious roles to me. The way I see it, this game has started the exact same as the last game: With me coming out with information on someone. The lynch on Jeff or Knuckles today is wrong today, regardless of any behavior. I believe L1 committed the kill, and is Mafia. For those of you claiming that the write-up does not portray a Mafia kill, remember that just last game, the write-ups (L1's) were not 100% indicative of the night phase, and I expect neither are these. However, unlike last game, I will not be swayed away from my vote. Vote: Level-One |
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Post by Jules on May 4, 2012 14:59:16 GMT -4
A few of issues have come up so far.
L1/Sally. It never looks good when someone is caught visiting some who was killed, but given the way recent games have gone I’m inclined towards caution right now. L1 has been pretty up-front about the visit and although C.J. & Knucks seem convinced I would like to hear more from Kurt.
C.J./Knucks – something just isn’t sitting right with these two in my mind. They both went quite hard for L1 (not without foundation), but Knuckles’ mini tantrum is suspect, and I remember C.J. getting a bit defensive with James earlier. Seems a bit too keen for me given we still have plenty of time during this day phase, and if anyone is a candidate for putting together a set-up right now it’s this pair. (NB: Just an observation, nothing formal.)
Jeff – I’m always suspicious of Jeff because he always plays under the radar and he hardly ever churns out information. But in his defence, at least he is consistent (lol). Would like to hear what Jeff has got to say for himself.
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Post by Level-Two on May 4, 2012 15:12:17 GMT -4
I was waiting for something like this. Wow, Kurt. Way to fuck over the town with this one, bud. You're taking a gamble that is not going to pay off for your game in the end.
I know you're town but manipulating your information to score this lynch isn't the way to go – no matter how much you may have talked yourself into doing it.
Come on, dude. You did NOT watch Sally. Right here – you openly admit you aren't sure about what to make about Sally's death but brings my name up to explain myself. This is obviously in reference to my visit. However if Kurt visited Sally and I was the ONLY person to visit her – he would have voted for me right out of the gate because that would have meant I killed her. Point blank. No doubt about it.
Yet it isn't until people aren't buying that I scum that he comes and gives you want you want to hear to ensure the lynch. Kurt thinks I am scum and is taking a gamble with my life to ensure a lynch goes down on me – because as it is people aren't buying my guilt. Unfortunately, it's going to look bad on him when I flip town.
With this said – I do believe Kurt is 100% town – he did watch me – but he didn't watch Sally. I think it's transparent what has happened here.
Kurt, you need to retract what your saying here man. Seriously, it isn't worth it and it is going to hurt your game in the long run.
Still – the only thing that is going to save you from getting lynched after I flip town is MY testimony that you are town. Funny how that works, huh?
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Post by President Jeff on May 4, 2012 15:40:17 GMT -4
Because I have no information to share right now, that makes me scum? really guys? Its not my fault I have nothing to add. I'm just being straight up honest with you guys. Do I have a role? Yes I do like everyone else.
But I'm still getting vibes from Knuckles. I think he's trying to start band wagons for Lynches. He marks out over the fact that Level One said he visited Sally and now she's dead. And says Level One has to be scum, yet, don't cast a vote on him
Vote: Knuckles
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Post by Kurt on May 4, 2012 15:40:52 GMT -4
I see you've gone into panic mode. Come on, dude. You did NOT watch Sally. Right here – you openly admit you aren't sure about what to make about Sally's death but brings my name up to explain myself. This is obviously in reference to my visit. However if Kurt visited Sally and I was the ONLY person to visit her – he would have voted for me right out of the gate because that would have meant I killed her. Point blank. No doubt about it. I didn't outright vote you so as to watch your reaction; same as I did with Knuckles in the last game. I needed to see if you would deny my information, or confirm the visit...which you did. If I outright voted you, you could form your defense based on my vote, but, because you already agreed to the visit, which I brought about in a non-hostile manner, I could unveil the portion of my information I was hiding. Your idea that I visited you, and not Sally is pure, baseless speculation that you're simply flinging out to avoid a lynch. It won't work. Yet it isn't until people aren't buying that I scum that he comes and gives you want you want to hear to ensure the lynch. Kurt thinks I am scum and is taking a gamble with my life to ensure a lynch goes down on me – because as it is people aren't buying my guilt. Unfortunately, it's going to look bad on him when I flip town. Read my first point. CJ's and Knuckles's decisions to vote you are based off your own admission of information, not mine. Notice no one threw a vote your until you spoke about it. People "aren't buying" your lynch (less than 24 hours into this day) because they wanted me to elaborate on my information. Your defense now is "LOL, I'm so town, you're gonna look bad after I flip it!," which is nothing short of attempting to sway the game after you've been lynched. I'm sure it'll work. Totally. With this said – I do believe Kurt is 100% town – he did watch me – but he didn't watch Sally. I think it's transparent what has happened here. Kurt, you need to retract what your saying here man. Seriously, it isn't worth it and it is going to hurt your game in the long run. Still – the only thing that is going to save you from getting lynched after I flip town is MY testimony that you are town. Funny how that works, huh? I couldn't care less about your opinion of me as town or not. I do see your strategy here though. I remember in LA Noire Mafia, when you were Mafia, you claimed you knew Bailey was town so the town would come back to him later, ruminating why you would attempt to clear him. Nice try though. Don't worry though; you can lay out your safe-claim after another vote. I'm sure the town is going to be very interested to hear it. |
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Post by Level-Two on May 4, 2012 15:57:28 GMT -4
No shit. You fucked me over because you know your safe either way. I flip town and your still cleared as town, regardless. Why not take the gamble and be the start of the game - I get it, dude.
I really can't deny your cover story for why you didn't vote right out of gate, Dr. Will. I just know you're lying about visiting Sally because I didn't kill her. It might not be a good enough of a defence for the town - but I can see through you, Kurt.
For someone so sure of his information - you shouldn't have to sell it nearly as hard. Again, I am talking to specifically you. Nobody else when I say you will regret lying about your information. At this point - you will have the town - and I will be lynched. I just can't wait to see how you reply day 3 if your alive - explaining to the town why the fuck you lied about otherwise solid information. That's all.
Bailey was an entirely different situation, though. Bailey never claimed to have bombshell information on me - leading to my lynch, you do.
What I did with Bailey - is attach myself to him to get him lynched after I died - he was town and I was mafia.
Here, you are literally leading the lynch on me (and I am town this time) so it's not the same thing but keep trying to make it into something it's not.
Oh, trust me. If I somehow make it through this day, scum better kill me during the night - because by day three you're going to eat crow after I prove I am not the killer.
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Post by T-Marv on May 4, 2012 15:58:36 GMT -4
VOTE COUNT:
Level One - 3 (CJ Gates, Knuckles, Noble)
President Jeff - 2 (Rebel, Kaji)
Knuckles - 1 (President Jeff)
46 hours till deadline...still plenty of time
JUST A REMINDER THOUGH.....
Day 2 Mini Game - How Well do you Know your mod?
Alright Folks, it's that time again. All these questions are about your wonderful and loving Mafia Mod. PM me your answers. The person with the most right at the end of day 2 will receive a prize. (some of these will be multiple choice)
1. How long have I been Efedding?
a. 6 years
b. 8 years
c. 10 years
d. 12 years
2. Am I Married?
3. Do I have any kids? If Yes, how many.
4. What is my Real first name?
a. Tony
b. Terry
c. Chris
d. Shane
e. None of the Above
5. How Old am I (No cheating mods!!!!)?
6. What is my profession?
a. Accountant
b. IT Professional
c. Journalist
d. Paralegal
c. Unemployed
7. What fed did The Real Show first win a world championship?
a. Rukkkus Wrestling Federation
b. Revolution Wrestling Federation
c. Pro Wrestling X
d. Connecticut Forum Wrestling
e. Ring of Pride Wrestling
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Post by Kurt on May 4, 2012 16:25:26 GMT -4
No shit. You fucked me over because you know your safe either way. I flip town and your still cleared as town, regardless. Why not take the gamble and be the start of the game - I get it, dude. Absolutely wrong. I'm not cleared as Town or Mafia regardless of how you flip, regardless of how much you may want to claim. And the game had already started, actually. Cases were being built against Jeff, Knuckles, and others. I really can't deny your cover story for why you didn't vote right out of gate, Dr. Will. I just know you're lying about visiting Sally because I didn't kill her. It might not be a good enough of a defence for the town - but I can see through you, Kurt. Your argument's falling apart here. You claim you believe I'm "100% town" (your words), but then believe I'm manipulating information to get you lynched. You have literally put me in the same boat as Branden Harvey. Your middle-ground stance is not helping my opinion of you. For someone so sure of his information - you shouldn't have to sell it nearly as hard. Again, I am talking to specifically you. Nobody else when I say you will regret lying about your information. At this point - you will have the town - and I will be lynched. I just can't wait to see how you reply day 3 if your alive - explaining to the town why the fuck you lied about otherwise solid information. That's all. This makes absolutely no sense. If you have information, you should sell it to your maximum ability. Failing to do so will lead people to believe you threw it out as bullshit, hoping someone sticks to it. You continue to slew this "You will regret this" future nonsense instead of actively attempting to help your own case by explaining why you believe I would lie about this, or even why you investigated Sally. You aren't providing anything valuable in your defense at all. Bailey was an entirely different situation, though. Bailey never claimed to have bombshell information on me - leading to my lynch, you do. What I did with Bailey - is attach myself to him to get him lynched after I died - he was town and I was mafia. Here, you are literally leading the lynch on me (and I am town this time) so it's not the same thing but keep trying to make it into something it's not. Totally missed the point. You're ignoring your attempted clearing of me (which looks really murky if you look at my second point), which is exactly what you did to Bailey. Of course they're not the same scenario; it's impossible to perfectly replicate the two. Your motive, however, looks the same. A second ago I was jumping on your lynch because Knuckles and Gates placed votes down, now I'm "leading" your lynch. "I'm town" as a pure defense is totally hollow as a defense. Oh, trust me. If I somehow make it through this day, scum better kill me during the night - because by day three you're going to eat crow after I prove I am not the killer. That's nice. We'll see after your safe-claim. |
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Post by Level-Two on May 4, 2012 16:43:46 GMT -4
Yes you are. Again, more lying when it's unneeded. You're the first one to say you won't be cleared even IF I flip as scum? Yet, at the same time we're supposed to take what your saying as gospel, right?
Listen - you have all but claimed watcher. Nobody has counter claimed. If I flip scum which I won't - then yes, you are cleared. If I flip town - even if you aren't cleared 100% - you won't be lynched on that basis alone and you know it.
I don't know what game your playing here but it's agitating me, greatly.
Well it is a branden harvey like move - that's for sure. But the situation your in is entirely different so it isn't as bad. It's more comparable to what Havok tried to do in callahan's as a town cop, that's all. He was a town cop but he manipulated his own info to suite him and what he thought was going on.
And yes, I do believe your a watcher and your a townie. I also know you watched me visit Sally - I also know I didn't kill her and thus I was not the only one to visit her. I know you were watching me not her.
And thus, you are manipulating your information. Maybe my responses have rubbed you the wrong way - fair enough but yeah, you definitely are trying to gamble here.
Of course it's impossible to recreate the same scenerio - but it isn't even valid, lol.
Essentially you are saying I will flip scum, correct? So how does me ''sticking up for you'' - is going to make the town lynch you, after I die?
What you are saying is that I am trying to make them believe - you are my scum buddy - who is about to get me lynched - as some sort of phsychological wargame move against the town to ensure you go the rest of the game unscathed.
Which is fucking ridiculous. Especially in a game like this when the two mafia's can kill each other and there is only three mafia in the game.
Again, what hell are you trying to say? It makes no sense. You're manipulating info and is making this a circus in the process of trying to do so.
You are leading my lynch by claiming I visited Sally - when people started to shift and realize that you watching me visit her isn't as big as a bombshell as it was perceived to be by Knuckles and CJ Gates.
You then came back and gave them what you wanted to hear - because you think I am scum. You're taking a gamble - I can't stress this enough.
You seem to be worried about the outcome and you better be because your decision could be what lost town this game.
I'll shine the branden harvey award for you. ;D
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Post by Kaji Fireson on May 4, 2012 18:26:55 GMT -4
Jeff: It's not that you have no info that makes you suspicious to me. I also have no info. Am I suspicious to myself? No. Because that's stupid. What makes you suspicious to me is the way you presented the information. It is as simple as that.
However, it is not as suspicious as...
Unvote
Vote: Level-One
Maybe I'm drawing dangerous conclusions from past games (notably LA Noire Mafia), but you are reacting pretty much how you reacted when Sally busted your ass. Same exact reaction? Perhaps not. But I feel the same energy from it. That does not make me confident that you are town.
Jeff and Knuckles are ones I'm going to watch, but I think this is a good vote.
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Post by Blade on May 4, 2012 18:29:42 GMT -4
So we either
A) Vote L-1 because Kurt says he is the only person who visited Sally last night
2) Go elsewhere with anything else we have
C) Vote knuckles because his play is uber suspicious and he is acting like a puppy dog who has just been opened by a 5 year old child on christmas morning
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Post by Kaji Fireson on May 4, 2012 18:36:34 GMT -4
1) Are you aware you switched numbering systems halfway through that?
2) Well, of the alternatives to voting Level-One, since I just did that...we have Knuckles, who I think is just hyped up on Spaceballs, and...well, what the fuck else DO we have? We have Ceej and Lester, then Kurt and Lester going back and forth, then we have Knuckles and Jeff bickering. That's what we've got. Of everything I can think of, a vote on Lester is the only one based on anything concrete, assuming Kurt is a watcher and saw what he says he saw. The rest is speculation and seems far more likely to get us all killed (lose).
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Post by Kurt on May 4, 2012 18:46:48 GMT -4
Before I refute anything L1 says, that's 4 vote, over halfway to 7.
Let's hear your role (or what I believe to be your safeclaim).
And on the point about Knuckles or Jeff...honestly, this is very, very similar to the Gubayama situation of last game. Even if you believe I, or L1 is full of shit, you resolve a more prominent problem based on information over speculation by lynching either L1 or myself. Lynching anyone but L1 or I just stalls an issue that to me, needs to be resolved today.
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PM me your answers. The person with the most right at the end of day 2 will receive a prize. (some of these will be multiple choice)
