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Post by C.J. Gates on Jun 20, 2012 17:35:15 GMT -4
Also, we're at 11 (as of the posting of this) pages, whats teh limit for the forum? 25? SAW Mafia went to like, 30 pages or something. I don't know if there's an actual limit at all. Not that it matters |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jun 20, 2012 17:43:27 GMT -4
I'm not educated on the power a busdriver has exactly, but does it switch people's character or the character's role?
Like does it switch the title of Mayor Quimby or who has that power? For example did it switch James and Knuckles character or the power?
I ask this because is it a possibility that Bacon visited James and James and Knuckles switched and Knuckles was targeted all along, but got James' character?
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jun 20, 2012 17:44:31 GMT -4
Double post
Thank CJ, I was asking in the event we got to the limit and had to create another topic
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 20, 2012 17:51:21 GMT -4
tj....
It switches the player.
For instance. If player A and player B get bus driven.... Whoever targets player A will target player B instead. And vice versa.
This pretty much only works for targets. Their actual roles don't get switched or anything. Just their targeting.
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Post by [ManiC] on Jun 20, 2012 17:57:57 GMT -4
Bus driver changes effects I believe. So say X and Y were bus driver-ed any action that happens to X (roleblock, killed etc.) would instead happen to Y and vise-versa.
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Post by Jules on Jun 20, 2012 18:30:25 GMT -4
Okay, I've been out all afternoon and evening. I'm just checking in here, but it looks like I've missed a lot, so when I've caught up and sorted one or two Overdrive things out I will post (I promise it will be before I go to bed tonight).
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jun 20, 2012 18:46:37 GMT -4
Mainly because he thought i was a oppurtunist when i decided to put my vote on Chaz when he didnt want us to really have any activity day one which kinda threw a red flag for me so when the night phase came i just wanted to make sure James wasn't burnes or smithers in the end his orginal role was mayor quimbies i just thought it was funny how he though chaz was suspicious and when i voted for me he said i was suspicious because he thought it was being oppurtunisitc I'm confused then, if James' role was Mayor Quimby, according to Bacon, then his busdriving does more than usual. OR Bacon has another power that he isn't divulging OR Bacon is just tryna fill his story up. |
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 20, 2012 19:17:51 GMT -4
My theory... bacon is just full of shit.
Vote: Bacon
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Post by Blade on Jun 20, 2012 19:45:06 GMT -4
vote: CJ gates
That I am certain
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Post by jasonandrews on Jun 20, 2012 20:19:18 GMT -4
Why do you think im full of shit just because i said i can clear jamesv because of my role that doesnt make any sense whats so ever
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Post by Jules on Jun 20, 2012 20:21:33 GMT -4
Mainly because he thought i was a oppurtunist when i decided to put my vote on Chaz when he didnt want us to really have any activity day one which kinda threw a red flag for me so when the night phase came i just wanted to make sure James wasn't burnes or smithers in the end his orginal role was mayor quimbies i just thought it was funny how he though chaz was suspicious and when i voted for me he said i was suspicious because he thought it was being oppurtunisitc I'm confused then, if James' role was Mayor Quimby, according to Bacon, then his busdriving does more than usual. OR Bacon has another power that he isn't divulging OR Bacon is just tryna fill his story up. I wrote something longer, but this post by Soul sums it up for me. I can't seem to fit together this business about switching powers/roles, or whatever. Bacon needs to clarify to me why he said JamesV was orginally Mayor Quimby. This post. i just wanted to make sure James wasn't burnes or smithers in the end his orginal role was mayor quimbies I get it if Bacon is merely a bus driver: scum targets JamesV, Bacon switches James and Knucks, Knucks gets killed. Therefore, JamesV is cleared....well he would be in a two-faction game. So, there's two things here (to explain Bacon not bullshitting). a. Bacon made an oversight on the part of the make-up of the game (assuming two, not, at least, three factions). As it stands JamesV is not cleared as town, we just know that whoever made the kill last night, he is not part of that faction. b. Bacon is bus driver, he just didn't explain himself properly. If none of these are the case, then I'm buying that Bacon is scum and now he is bullshitting. And if this is the case I'm looking at Kurt since he provided the bus driver defense to clarify things. What needs to happen now is Bacon provide a reasonable explanation because, frankly, I don't completely understand what it is he says he did last night. If that doesn't happen, and on top of that scummy vote for Goodburn (who by the way has been pretty scummy too, but Bacon is eager to bandwagon again), I know where my vote is going. |
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Post by Jules on Jun 20, 2012 20:24:02 GMT -4
vote: CJ gatesThat I am certain Care to add anything else to that? Why do you think im full of shit just because i said i can clear jamesv because of my role that doesnt make any sense whats so ever Because what you've said doesn't make sense. How have you cleared JamesV? You're not making this easily understandable at all. |
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Post by Kris on Jun 20, 2012 20:24:39 GMT -4
vote: CJ gatesThat I am certain What are you certain of, Blade? |
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Post by Kurt on Jun 20, 2012 20:49:50 GMT -4
I guess that he's certain he's voting for CJ, ha. I know I'm one to take day 2 statements at face value (partially because then I expect consistency in the following days), but that one's going to need some context.
It appears we're split into camps: Bacon and Goodburn. Both have valid reasons for them, IMO. Goodburn still hasn't made a roleclaim/safeclaim, so my vote stays with him unless he should produce something worthwhile and believable.
If we want more context on this Bacon situation...wait for JamesV. It's not exactly character claiming of he claims his role or character was changed. If he confirms Bacon's explanation, we can move on. If he doesn't or doesn't know what he's talking about, we proceed from there. The way I see it, one's getting lynched today, and the other's getting investigated tonight, so we'll have our answers either way.
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Post by Jules on Jun 20, 2012 20:53:30 GMT -4
If we want more context on this Bacon situation...wait for JamesV. It's not exactly character claiming of he claims his role or character was changed. If he confirms Bacon's explanation, we can move on. If he doesn't or doesn't know what he's talking about, we proceed from there. The way I see it, one's getting lynched today, and the other's getting investigated tonight, so we'll have our answers either way. I agree with this, and it's partly why I have given Bacon the benefit of the doubt for now by not voting. |
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Post by Blade on Jun 20, 2012 21:01:05 GMT -4
I am certain that CJ deserves my vote.
How, that is up to you. I dont need to make a massive statement, and I dont expect people to follow me, but I wont be changing my vote.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jun 20, 2012 21:48:52 GMT -4
Thats why I put the fos on Bacon. I honestly don't think Goodburn is being as scummy as you guys say he is, I think he's just a being a rookie, but what the hell do I know, this is my second game too.
I mean, it's what, the second day, and this is the first time Goodburn actually got to talk in the second day so I don't know if he has a full grasp of the game and his role.
my main focus is bacon, but if he can clear himself and Goodburn doesn't, I'll shift towards Goodburn.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jun 20, 2012 22:07:07 GMT -4
So we got Rebel (out of town) and Brenden that haven't checked in yet.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jun 20, 2012 22:09:24 GMT -4
EBWOP
Damn it, my internet lagged and posted the message missing the rest of that
Brenden really have been quiet since page 1/2, and Rebel's outta town so getting a read on him is hard, but Brenden, who has an award named after him, being quiet just piqued my interest a bit.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 20, 2012 22:12:13 GMT -4
Guys... Woke up with strep throat. Been sleeping all day. Even called into work (which I've done only twice in my entire life). Just wanted to let you know. Give me tonight to get some more sleep, and I'll add my two cents in the morning. Sorry guys.
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Post by jasonandrews on Jun 20, 2012 22:12:50 GMT -4
If you guys want me to clear my self by switching my roles during the night phase i will
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Post by Kris on Jun 20, 2012 22:36:46 GMT -4
If you guys want me to clear my self by switching my roles during the night phase i will How would that prove anything? |
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Post by Kurt on Jun 21, 2012 0:09:06 GMT -4
I am certain that CJ deserves my vote. How, that is up to you. I dont need to make a massive statement, and I dont expect people to follow me, but I wont be changing my vote. Point noted. So we got Rebel (out of town) and Brenden that haven't checked in yet. This is normally the point I'd throw out a silencer flag...but after seeing those two names, I won't. Rebel's activity is always erratic, but I don't believe he's ever been modkilled for inactivity. Harvey hasn't logged on since the day started, so I'm just expecting him to be modkilled if he fails to appear. If you guys want me to clear my self by switching my roles during the night phase i will I suppose that would help you...but there's a lot of variables that could go astray. The best bet is to wait for JamesV and see what he says, and then we'll discuss your power. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jun 21, 2012 0:47:46 GMT -4
Regarding Harvey, if he is silenced, he won't be modkilled. Since this is the first day phase after a night phase, we might have to wait and see. If he doesn't post and isn't modkilled, then he was either silenced or active in a QT.
Now, I'm going to maybe try and explain Bacon...again.
Given how he writes, I'm assuming that when he read Jeff's role PM that said he switched two people, he figured it meant he switched their roles as well. I'm also assuming Bacon has never player a bus driver before. When that said, he probably thinks he switched their roles when he only switched their places.
Though, like I said, it doesn't clear James at all. Not in a game with three factions that have already been revealed to us.
Of course, this could all just be rehashed stuff, but I'm inclined to believe Bacon right now, even if he isn't making a whole lot of sense.
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Post by goodburn on Jun 21, 2012 0:51:20 GMT -4
In my post before my latest one, I said if I had anything to add to the game, I would say it.
If I would have just stayed quiet, and let Bacon take all of the heat, the topic would have turned in to "Goodburn is certainly staying quiet, he's just sitting back and let us rip on Bacon" Kris points out flaws, I add to the discussion, everybody else points out flaws, but I'm the one that gets tossed back into it being suspicious. And what I've been talking about isn't suddenly new, I've been suspicious of Bacon since day one, along with other people.
How is pointing out flaws suspicious? Isn't that what the game is about? Speaking of which, when Bacon started this all up, he was hinting that he's a role cop, and now he's a role switcher? Did somebody switch roles with him?
If you pay close attention, I'm the most consistant person here. I've been doing what I said I would do. I'm not bringing up the confusion back up from earlier in the day, because everything that needed to be said, was said. I said if I had any thoughts about anything, I would bring them up. Most of the other people playing are all over the place. In my opinion, Bacon has caused more confusion today that I have.
On day one, Chaz was being critisized for not wanting to people to give theories, instead just gather information. And now I'm suspicious for doing what Chaz didn't want to do? If suspicious people aren't allowed to point out things they notice, especially to somebody that everyone else finds suspicious, sorry for breaking the rules. I was under the impression if somebody suspicious suddenly is quiet when somebody else is taking heat, that in itself is suspicious, and I certainly didn't need more heat, but I certainly got it.
I suppose Kris and Keaton didn't want adding to the discussion. On day one that was suspicious, on day two, it's encouraged for all to shut up, and listen to the veterans play, and let the newb just listen, and agree, but don't agree if you are suspicious, I guess I was suppose to disagree, and say "No! Bacon isn't confusing us at all! Everything he says is totally legit, and makes sense to all!"
Please tell me if there's anything else you would like for me to get off my chest.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Jun 21, 2012 0:53:48 GMT -4
Mainly because he thought i was a oppurtunist when i decided to put my vote on Chaz when he didnt want us to really have any activity day one which kinda threw a red flag for me so when the night phase came i just wanted to make sure James wasn't burnes or smithers in the end his orginal role was mayor quimbies i just thought it was funny how he though chaz was suspicious and when i voted for me he said i was suspicious because he thought it was being oppurtunisitc I'm confused then, if James' role was Mayor Quimby, according to Bacon, then his busdriving does more than usual. OR Bacon has another power that he isn't divulging OR Bacon is just tryna fill his story up. How can I be Mayor Quimby when he died already and was played by Knuckles? Just pointing that out. I guess that he's certain he's voting for CJ, ha. I know I'm one to take day 2 statements at face value (partially because then I expect consistency in the following days), but that one's going to need some context. It appears we're split into camps: Bacon and Goodburn. Both have valid reasons for them, IMO. Goodburn still hasn't made a roleclaim/safeclaim, so my vote stays with him unless he should produce something worthwhile and believable. If we want more context on this Bacon situation...wait for JamesV. It's not exactly character claiming of he claims his role or character was changed. If he confirms Bacon's explanation, we can move on. If he doesn't or doesn't know what he's talking about, we proceed from there. The way I see it, one's getting lynched today, and the other's getting investigated tonight, so we'll have our answers either way. My character is Homer's neighbor and I'm the total opposite personality of his. Given I'm an aggressive a-hole in mafia games that should be a give away of who I am. I trust Bacon on this and tells me scum probably have someone who plays with me on a regular basis and wants to eliminate me quickly. However I'm going to go with this vote... Vote: CJ GatesBlade is not the type to divulge or out info without a valid reason. My vote will not be changing. This Goodburn/Bacon argument is a red herring to distract us. Gates is the way to go, bottom line. Goodburn needs to be investigated and so does Bacon. Bacon could be the school bus driver character from the series. Just throwing that out there since apparently everyone forgot about that character being in the show. |
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Post by Michael Jennings on Jun 21, 2012 0:55:39 GMT -4
I am certain that CJ deserves my vote. How, that is up to you. I dont need to make a massive statement, and I dont expect people to follow me, but I wont be changing my vote. THIS. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jun 21, 2012 1:04:27 GMT -4
Goodburn, I wouldn't let it get to you. Some people have certain ways they play to try and see how people react to certain statements. The fact that you're new to APW games (or the game in general, I do not know), probably won't help, if only because they will always draw on the inexperience card. I am certain that CJ deserves my vote. How, that is up to you. I dont need to make a massive statement, and I dont expect people to follow me, but I wont be changing my vote. THIS. I'd still like to know why I'm getting votes, as opposed to Blades lack of a reason and James following it blindly. You're both barking up the wrong tree. |
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Post by Michael Jennings on Jun 21, 2012 1:34:42 GMT -4
If we are then why would Blade out that you're scum knowing full well if he's wrong then he's lynched the next day phase? Too risky. Either that or it's being used at bait but he NEVER does that. I'm taking what he said at face value and believe his info is legit.
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Post by jasonandrews on Jun 21, 2012 2:34:18 GMT -4
I'm confused then, if James' role was Mayor Quimby, according to Bacon, then his busdriving does more than usual. OR Bacon has another power that he isn't divulging OR Bacon is just tryna fill his story up. I wrote something longer, but this post by Soul sums it up for me. I can't seem to fit together this business about switching powers/roles, or whatever. Bacon needs to clarify to me why he said JamesV was orginally Mayor Quimby. This post. i just wanted to make sure James wasn't burnes or smithers in the end his orginal role was mayor quimbies I get it if Bacon is merely a bus driver: scum targets JamesV, Bacon switches James and Knucks, Knucks gets killed. Therefore, JamesV is cleared....well he would be in a two-faction game. So, there's two things here (to explain Bacon not bullshitting). a. Bacon made an oversight on the part of the make-up of the game (assuming two, not, at least, three factions). As it stands JamesV is not cleared as town, we just know that whoever made the kill last night, he is not part of that faction. b. Bacon is bus driver, he just didn't explain himself properly. If none of these are the case, then I'm buying that Bacon is scum and now he is bullshitting. And if this is the case I'm looking at Kurt since he provided the bus driver defense to clarify things. What needs to happen now is Bacon provide a reasonable explanation because, frankly, I don't completely understand what it is he says he did last night. If that doesn't happen, and on top of that scummy vote for Goodburn (who by the way has been pretty scummy too, but Bacon is eager to bandwagon again), I know where my vote is going. You pretty much explained the way i tried to explain it bro |
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