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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 16, 2012 11:37:57 GMT -4
WRECKED: Bacon, Officer Eiskopf, Mafia Roleblocker
You have 24 hours to send in night actions.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 17, 2012 11:27:27 GMT -4
After an intense race through the country roads of Japan late at night, Natasha removes her helmet and wipes the sweat from her brow somewhat confused at how peaceful the entire race was. Nobody got hurt, nobody got arrested. Just nothing.
Natasha; Well... That was weird.
The Australian hunter-gatherer Walleye leaned over to speak to her.
Walleye: What was?
Natasha: There was no police... At all. No roadblocks, no helicopters, no dogs or anything. Just a pure, clean race. In Japan no less.
Walleye: Very weird...
Lucky Luc: A race which I won mon amis! Haha!
The arrogant Frenchman threw his arms in the air and laughed to his hearts content, his boasting much to the shunning of his other racers.
Sergio: Shut it vato!
Lawson: Where are we going next?
Natasha: Next? Next we're going Hawaii.
And with that the Rashers all shake hands before razzing off into the night, the perfect race untainted by police presence.
BAR PHASE FIVE BEGINS AT THE LITTLE TIKKI SMOOTHIE SHACK IN HONOLULU, HAWAII (RIGHT HAND DRIVE)
ALIVE PLAYERS:
ALIVE PLAYERS:
1. A.C. Smith
2. Captain Metro
3. Chaz Dillinger
4. Crown Jules
5. C.J. Gates
6. Kris
7. Manic
8. Stefan Raab
9. The Soul
WITH NINE ALIVE IT TAKES FIVE TO CREATE A LYNCH. DAY PHASE ENDS IN 72 HOURS.
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Kris
Midcarder
There's no lie in her fire.
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Post by Kris on Jul 17, 2012 11:37:15 GMT -4
A good night phase-- and it looks like we're literally down to using information in order to lynch the remaining non-Townies since there wasn't a kill last night. Either that or they're laying low so as to lull us into a false sense of security, which is definitely a possibility. That being said?
Vote: CJ Gates
Should this prove A.C. right, then we'll know for sure his info can be trusted. If not? Then we know where to go next.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 17, 2012 12:29:43 GMT -4
A good night phase-- and it looks like we're literally down to using information in order to lynch the remaining non-Townies since there wasn't a kill last night. Either that or they're laying low so as to lull us into a false sense of security. Kris, remember that the race was on a left-handed track. The mafia didn't kill on night two, either (the last race on a LH track). Given that the third party lost its cult leader, I wouldn't be surprised if they lost their ability to kill/recruit last night as well. With that in mind, the town is now in the driver's seat after the past two days. Good job to the town, but our work's not done yet. VOTE: C.J. GatesHe's a known quantity, and as of now, he's the only one that fits that description. I reserve the right to unvote if night information comes out that outs Lawson, but right now, this is the easy, safe lynch. |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 12:39:10 GMT -4
Vote: CJ Gates
Putting faith in AC on this one. Wonder why the mafia didn't kill. I think if ACs info pans out the third party is done so That leads us to get the two Mafia members. Hopefully someone ha some info
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 17, 2012 12:48:18 GMT -4
I think if ACs info pans out the third party is done so That leads us to get the two Mafia members. Hopefully someone ha some info We also need to get Scab Boy from the third party. |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 17, 2012 13:02:50 GMT -4
Fine, I'll bite. Sorry for my inactivity. A.C., you better be right.
Vote: CJ Gates
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 17, 2012 13:10:32 GMT -4
Somewhere, a mysterious power stirs and through the minds of every player the following message is announced;
VOTE COUNT
CJ Gates- 4 (Kris, TJ, Dillinger, A.C. Smith)
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 17, 2012 13:16:25 GMT -4
Somewhere, a mysterious power stirs and through the minds of every player the following message is announced; VOTE COUNTCJ Gates- 3 (Kris, TJ, Dillinger) Does this count my vote? |
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 17, 2012 13:18:04 GMT -4
Somewhere, a mysterious power stirs and through the minds of every player the following message is announced; VOTE COUNTCJ Gates- 3 (Kris, TJ, Dillinger) Does this count my vote? It does now. My mistake. |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 13:36:59 GMT -4
I think if ACs info pans out the third party is done so That leads us to get the two Mafia members. Hopefully someone ha some info We also need to get Scab Boy from the third party. Forgot that tmarv got one last recruit before death |
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Post by Jules on Jul 17, 2012 17:37:15 GMT -4
IMPORTANT! DO NOT HAMMER!
Okay, I have some info that I need to clarify, but I urge everyone to calm the hell down for the time being. I'm not stalling because if the clarification I get supports A.C. Smith I will hammer; if it doesn't we need to take a step back here.
So, I repeat, nobody hammer. Anyone who does is prime suspect as far as I am concerned.
Besides, why would you bandwagon like this without everyone checking in? I'm definitely looking at everyone on that wagon already. But please wait until I come back on this.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 17:46:21 GMT -4
Oh shit, I thought it was gonna take 6 to lynch figured with Raab being new and was under the belief that Chaz would be late to the party again and CJ not voting for himself that we could get the info from everyone and their votes.
Unvote: CJ Gates
But yea, we got me, Kris, AC, Chaz, and Jules checked in, thats 5 of the 9. Waiting for Manic, Metro, Raab and CJ, presumably to defend himself.
AC you get any info last night? And Kris , Chaz, Manic, Metro, Raab did you guys get any info? No roleblocker on the mafia side to stop any of us from our role.
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Kris
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There's no lie in her fire.
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Post by Kris on Jul 17, 2012 18:03:45 GMT -4
I've got no new information, no-- which is why I started with what I thought was the most solid lead from day phase.
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Kris
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There's no lie in her fire.
Posts: 342
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Post by Kris on Jul 17, 2012 18:05:05 GMT -4
EBWOP: ...most solid lead from the previous day phase, I mean.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 17, 2012 18:07:40 GMT -4
TJ, I got nothing useful from last night.
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Post by Lord Raab on Jul 17, 2012 18:16:11 GMT -4
I didn't really get any info no.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 18:32:41 GMT -4
Just waiting on Jules Metro and CJ. Jules with his info, Metro with any info and CJ to defend himself really.
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Post by [ManiC] on Jul 17, 2012 18:58:52 GMT -4
I didn't use my night action as on the Left-Handed track it really fucks shit up (if you read Night 2 you may be able to guess what my reverse role does in comparison to last night considering what didn't happen).
That said, why are people voting for CJ? It may be because I've been a bit preoccupied over the last few days but why are we against him?
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 19:25:19 GMT -4
I didn't use my night action as on the Left-Handed track it really fucks shit up (if you read Night 2 you may be able to guess what my reverse role does in comparison to last night considering what didn't happen). That said, why are people voting for CJ? It may be because I've been a bit preoccupied over the last few days but why are we against him? AC's night 1 action revealed to him that either CJ was visited by Tmarv or that he watched Tmarv visit CJ either way, Tmarv turned out to be The Player and on the first night, The Player recruited someone. By that deduction CJ is third party. And seeing how we have little on who is apart of teh mafia, I think we're leaning toward going CJ, putting faith in AC's information. If he's wrong and CJ flips town, AC's going to be next on teh docket most likely. And that's fine. I think I know who you are if you're telling the truth. Just waiting on Metro, Jules and CJ. |
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Post by [ManiC] on Jul 17, 2012 19:34:14 GMT -4
I didn't use my night action as on the Left-Handed track it really fucks shit up (if you read Night 2 you may be able to guess what my reverse role does in comparison to last night considering what didn't happen). That said, why are people voting for CJ? It may be because I've been a bit preoccupied over the last few days but why are we against him? AC's night 1 action revealed to him that either CJ was visited by Tmarv or that he watched Tmarv visit CJ either way, Tmarv turned out to be The Player and on the first night, The Player recruited someone. By that deduction CJ is third party. And seeing how we have little on who is apart of teh mafia, I think we're leaning toward going CJ, putting faith in AC's information. If he's wrong and CJ flips town, AC's going to be next on teh docket most likely. And that's fine. I think I know who you are if you're telling the truth. Just waiting on Metro, Jules and CJ. I totally misread the thread  Thought AC got the read on TMarv visiting CJ on Night 2 (and so would get a weird result as it was a reverse night), but AC was roleblocked instead wasn't he on that night? I'm back up to speed now... |
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Post by Jules on Jul 17, 2012 19:55:14 GMT -4
First things first, sorry to be so dramatic earlier, but I had to be certain in the circumstances. Anyway, I do have some info and after clarification I believe it corroborates A.C. claim insofar I have reason to believe A.C. is acting from town motives. I'm not going to say I'm 100% here, but I'm in the high 90s (given margin for error in my interpretation of what my night action does in left hand drive). However, before I vote let's see what C.J. has to say for himself. We have plenty of time and discussion is only good for the town, hence why I was suspicious of that quick bandwagon. I'll also chip in and add to what I said at the end of the last day phase, I have reasons (based on my night action) to believe Captain Metro is person worthy of suspicion. If something happens to me in the night I'd urge you keep that lead in a mind. I can't say I'm 100% on it, because there may be an element of doubt. I didn't follow this up last night because after A.C.'s claim about C.J. I thought it would be prudent to use my night ability to try and corroborate this or reveal any foul play. One last thing before I go to bed. That note about Manic, Kris and Raab has been given no attention, which is curious. Kris was on that wagon, but depending on what happens today will go some way to either vindicating or hanging her. Raab, I've not got a proper read on him but he hasn't really offered anything to the game. He's a noob in APW, so right now I can't see him being third party since he isn't The Player and its unlikely Marv would recruit him. Doesn't mean he isn't Lawson though. Then we have Manic. One bit of play sticks out for me. My role's pretty feckin' powerful actually even with the reverse thing Now he's telling us he didn't use his night action because it's useless or damaging on left hand drive. So which is it - 'pretty feckin' powerful' or useless? |
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Post by [ManiC] on Jul 17, 2012 20:01:40 GMT -4
Pretty feckin' powerful, but due to the power of the role I did not use it last night, as with the consequences of the reverse action, I think I should be sure of whom I'm going to use it on. I didn't claim that it was useless, though it could be damaging if implemented incorrectly and I make a mistake like I did in night 2.
If TJ has figured out who I am, then I'm hoping he can back me up as to why I'm cautious with my role on the reverse night (given that it's within the rules of course).
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 20:54:18 GMT -4
I'm gonna try not to name names or anything but Manic, as far as I can tell, has a power role that if backfired, does the complete opposite of what it is intended to do. Think about who died night two and by whose hands. Think about what the victim and another member of the game had just gone through on the first day, surely one of them would be scum target during the night phase. So Manic made a choice between the two and fortunately/unfortunately, it killed the person who chose. I'll ask Callahan about how far I can go to clear him, but that said, I think Manic is clear of any suspicion.
As far as the message sent, I had the same idea as the person who sent that, but now I wanna say that Metro takes the place of Manic, because he could be Lawson or Scab boy, more so Scab boy. I say this because after Lawson was recruited, he was the first to cast a vote for Bacon. Whats for sure is he couldn't be the last original mafia member left because he went out and outted his mafia member right away, he could be, but I'd put the chances at 87% he's not the original mafia member. But why could he be lawson who was recruited the ni
So that leaves Raab and Kris who I've figured to be mafia because Kris is very quiet compared to last game where she was town where she was very active and Raab, I've believed the minute she said that she was gonna take everything in and learn the game. I don't have any proof though, simply gut feelings and observations. If anyone has any info about these two, it would help the mysterious message.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 21:00:21 GMT -4
EBWOP
In short, Manic is biff and I'd say his role, but there would be a chance that he'd jump over anyone on the list of scum targets. He wasn't lying when he said he's role is powerful no matter what side of the track he's on just that it wasn't always pro-town powerful
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Post by Metrodamus on Jul 17, 2012 21:05:05 GMT -4
I'm glad you guys didn't hammer because lynching CJ is a mistake. It absolutely pains me to say it as I don't think you should ever work with a third party but looking at the game that's sort of the case at the moment. Our focus TODAY needs to be mafia - I'll explain in a second.
Firstly, it's my understanding (and I've never played a game where this isn't true) that Mafia is always able to night kill as long as they have one member barring a special stipulation (IE: Killing on one side, recruiting on the other), the kill simply passes down the line and when there are no hitman/goons available they must choose to either perform their assigned role, or the kill - not both. Now there's mod discretion as always but I'm acting under the assumption that that is the case ... it may also explain the lack of a night kill as well in that Lawson felt compelled to use a different action as opposed to the kill. Alternatively it may have to do with left/right drive as they recruited before on the right and may have be unable to kill. As such, we need to be cognizant of the ability for the mafia being able to kill still which factors into my belief that today we need to focus on the MAFIA - as opposed to a cultist like CJ.
Right now town is in a position of 5-2-2 (using TJ's numbers from last day phase which I believe to be correct). We've got a dominant position with the potential for a mislynch which is still more likely that not 5/9 chance. If we lynch CJ today and there's a night kill we're at 4-2-1 next day phase. If we lynch the second cultist it's 4-2 and a night kill is 3-2 and we're at mislynch and lose. If they can only kill every night and we go into that day phase at 4-2 it's still mislynch and lose cause they'd kill that night to bring it to even numbers. If we don't hit the second cultist it's 3-2-1 and the same scenario plays out.
The fact of the matter is the Mafia can deplete our numbers while the cult can't. They can get us to the end game a lot quicker as outlined above. I'm sure everyone's pointing out that I've not got us lynching scum in there but play it out if we lynch CJ we're at 4-2-2 with the kill ... a scum lynch has us at 4-1-2, night kill 3-1-1, and again we're at mislynch and lose even if you add an extra townie for the left hand night with no night kill as town is outnumbered -- one of mafia/cult will win depending on the way the lynch goes.
Not only that but we know what CJ is so he's an easy lynch at the end game once we've cleared the mafia. If we're at 4-0-2 (Scum lynch, night kill, scum lynch. We've got two mislynches if we lynch town (3-0-2), lynch CJ (3-0-1) lynch town (2-0-1).
Jules, I'm not sure as to why you got inconclusive on me but I've got a theory and it may be prudent for you to look at me again this evening as I want to confirm something. If you get the same result I believe we're in a very good position to win the game (see below and you can possibly figure this out) - this also plays into why I think we should keep CJ alive as I imagine it would confirm four players for us (CJ, Jules, AC and one other person who I won't name yet.)
I hate not getting rid of an anti-town player. I hate even advocating for them because I'd probably be the first person to point out that I'm likely cult for doing this but I win with the town -- and as such I have to point this out before we make a mistake.
As for who I believe to be scum – I’m going to Vote: Raab. Not going to say anything other than Bacon was scum.
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Post by Metrodamus on Jul 17, 2012 21:09:58 GMT -4
Also, I apologize for the essay. I hate lengthy mafia posts but it was necessary.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 21:12:44 GMT -4
Here's the problem with your guessing at what will happen, CJ is the only person we have info on and we know is anti-town. What this allows us to do is get a good lynch and investigate the three remaining people. I believe we still have our watching and tracker if I'm not mistaken so there we can watch and track two of the three people and see if anything comes up.
And this further feeds my thought that you are Scab boy if CJ is Natasha.
And the fact that you are voting for Raab further my idea that Raab is scum.
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Post by Metrodamus on Jul 17, 2012 21:25:54 GMT -4
Here's the problem with your guessing at what will happen, CJ is the only person we have info on and we know is anti-town. What this allows us to do is get a good lynch and investigate the three remaining people. I believe we still have our watching and tracker if I'm not mistaken so there we can watch and track two of the three people and see if anything comes up. And this further feeds my thought that you are Scab boy if CJ is Natasha. And the fact that you are voting for Raab further my idea that Raab is scum. That's exactly my point TJ - the fact that we KNOW he's cult means it's just to easy to lynch him at the moment, not only that but we're fucked if we do. Also, it's fine that you think I'm scab boy. I would too given everything but you're a smart dude and you KNOW I'm a smart dude. The math is all laid out in front of you. Humor me with a Raab vote, let's get scum tonight and then reassess where we're at tomorrow. |
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Post by Lord Raab on Jul 17, 2012 21:53:03 GMT -4
I am really sorry. I am just picking things up as I am a very slow learner. I really have looked through all the threads on here and realizing that we have played somewhat a solid game so far. So we got CJ that might've visited T Marv which I feel is a little scummy to me. I think we are a bit careful on who we lynch next but then on other ends I can see CJ being one of the most active people here along with TJ and Captain Metro.
From what I read in the past. Chaz being quite quiet this time around compared to the other games I saw him being quite active so that might be a bit suspicious somewhere or he has real life issues to deal with. For now really that's all I can say.
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