Road Rash Mafia: Discussion Thread (BAR 6)

[Blade]

How did this game end?

Farq killed AC Slater, so any action he used on Farq should have been null and void. How cna he use an action once dead?

The only other option we the Jailkeep blocked the kill

So I dont understand how a dead player can Jailkeep someone.

[Michael Callahan]

Jul 28, 2012 14:00:57 GMT -4 Blade said:

How did this game end?

Farq killed AC Slater, so any action he used on Farq should have been null and void. How cna he use an action once dead?

The only other option we the Jailkeep blocked the kill

So I dont understand how a dead player can Jailkeep someone.

Jailkeep in this game (as specified in the role PM) isn't a roleblock, it's a silence and vote stripping. Assuming in Mafia that all night actions are carried out at the exact same moment, this allows them to perfectly coexist. Jules is silent for the day, A.C. Smith is dead.

[Michael Callahan]

Two town players that couldn't be converted. Mafia were never convertable. I'm out. PM me any questions.

[Metrodamus]

Pfft I had Bacon from day 1.

Also, Blade, sameway I got recruited the night that Terry did. I don't agree with actions surviving kills but it was consistent.

[Blade]

That just all seems too confusing letting the actions of dead players ride.

Maybe you made the game too confusing for yourself, because there are things that still irk me and i dont get.

Ah well, game over.

[Jules]

Jul 28, 2012 13:40:30 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

I also think that Jules made a mistake by killing AC because that left two people that had be cleared the whole game. I was thinking if I were Jules I would have killed Kris and left AC and Manic and try to convince AC that Manic was town.

It was a toss-up between A.C. and Kris for that last kill. With hindsight it was a mistake because of A.C. jailkeeping ability, but I wasn't to know about this. Actually, the only person I cleared was A.C. (due to my cop ability), I only ever intimated Manic may be town to put doubt on you (Soul).

It was a 50/50 in the end, I knew I had to try and force a lynch on Manic. A.C. I cleared, Kris was cleared by her death and resurrect, Manic was the only on whom doubt could be placed. I simply gambled that I might be able to get Kris, rather than A.C., to follow me.

It was a long-shot either way, and I didn't think I would pull it off. If I made a mistake it was not using my kill sooner, but we'll never know what would have happened had I done that.

[Metrodamus]

Jul 28, 2012 14:25:03 GMT -4 Jules said:

Jul 28, 2012 13:40:30 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

I also think that Jules made a mistake by killing AC because that left two people that had be cleared the whole game. I was thinking if I were Jules I would have killed Kris and left AC and Manic and try to convince AC that Manic was town.

It was a toss-up between A.C. and Kris for that last kill. With hindsight it was a mistake because of A.C. jailkeeping ability, but I wasn't to know about this. Actually, the only person I cleared was A.C. (due to my cop ability), I only ever intimated Manic may be town to put doubt on you (Soul).

It was a 50/50 in the end, I knew I had to try and force a lynch on Manic. A.C. I cleared, Kris was cleared by her death and resurrect, Manic was the only on whom doubt could be placed. I simply gambled that I might be able to get Kris, rather than A.C., to follow me.

It was a long-shot either way, and I didn't think I would pull it off. If I made a mistake it was not using my kill sooner, but we'll never know what would have happened had I done that.

Your mistake was killing me instead of a townie. You would have won at 1-1-1 as I was the most obvious lynch.

[A.C. Smith]

Some thoughts here as I look to shake off a rough day at the racetrack.

- My MVP award, like TJ's, goes to T-Marv. Say what you will about how the mafia reacted to it (I will in a moment), but without his Hail Mary implicating Blade, the town doesn't win the game. Maybe we'd have gotten Blade eventually, but him doing that led to the grand mal bonehead move of the game, in my opinion...
- The mob night-killing T-Marv. If they had put revenge aside and lynched a townie, chances are the town probably lynches T-Marv at some point since Blade outed him on his way out. That extends the game by another day phase, and if that happens, the mafia probably wins the game.
- Honorable mention for MVP goes to Farq. He played a brilliant game as the last scum standing, almost salvaging it for his team after Goodburn's mod-kill, Blade being outed (not his fault at all), and Bacon being Bacon. He came EXTREMELY close to winning this game for the mafia, and he deserves a ton of credit.
- The Branden Harvey award is a tie between Goodburn and Bacon. Bacon played the game horribly, both on the boards and in the QT. But at least he played the game. Goodburn being mod-killed gave the town an instant head start.
- This game just goes to show how tough it is for the town to win one of these games. A ton of things went right, especially early on, but it took until we were down to three people for the town to pull it out. Metro is right, too; had Farq killed a townie instead of Metro, it's an entirely-different game.

Thanks again to Callahan for this game. And really, stop beating yourself up. I had a great time playing in it, and it looks like almost everyone else did as well.

[[ManiC]]

You promised you'd answer my question Callahan :'[

How come when I had a successful protection of TMarv he got night-killed? That's still confusing me.

[Michael Callahan]

I replied to Manic's PM, however I figure other people are now scratching their heads at that one too so basically what happened was this;

The night T-Marv was killed, Manic as Doctor protected him but both The Mafia and Kris used their night kill powers on T-Marv. He was successful in that he wasn't roleblocked and he prevented Kris from killing him, however his protection was only good for one night-kill (rather than a total blanket protection which I felt would've been somewhat overpowered in an already stacked town set-up) and so The Mafia were able to get him even after he was already protected.