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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 17, 2012 22:51:59 GMT -4
That note about Manic, Kris and Raab has been given no attention, which is curious. Kris was on that wagon, but depending on what happens today will go some way to either vindicating or hanging her. Of the three, I would lean more toward Raab or Manic being the scum. But then again, I've had my suspicions about Raab since he hasn't really dont anything other than add pointless activity posts and parrot what's already been said. I called him on it last day phase, and he responded by repeating what everyone else had to say. To me, that's him trying to keep his nose out of trouble more than anything, and trying to not gain any attention. Even for a noob to the game/APW Mafia, you'd think if he had a green town role, he'd be more apt to speak up, while a red mafia enemy role would probably make him not want to make a mistake. Not to mention he's not really understanding the information thrown out at him as he reads through... But maybe that's just me. Manic is only suspect number 2 because I'm leaning toward Kris being town, as of right now. With that said, I'm not here to defend myself. I'm not going to deny anything, and I know I'll probably get lynched for it, but I'm here to help the town win - I have been all game - and can't do that if I'm dead. Lynch me if you want, but I assure all of you that I am not a threat to the town. |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 17, 2012 23:13:51 GMT -4
See, I was kinda pissed that no one would listen to me last game when I was gonna die during the night phase and it ended up costing the town the game.
Heres the thing though, we have the final 4 almost figured out. CJ for sure anti-town and Metro didn't really refute my theory that he is the second third party members. Raab is playing like a noob and can't even read my posts correctly that I said TMarv visited Gates on night one. And Kris is the only one that has the chance to be town outta the four.
The only wild card here is if the third party can in fact kill. They haven't so far, but I find it hard to believe that they don't have a one shot kill or something. If I'm correct, they win if only one side remains and the other side is even with them. Trying to see how they can win, we'd have to kill one more mafia and then they'd had to try to convince us to kill a townie and then use their one shot kill.
That's why i am going to:
Vote: CJ Gates
I did what Jules asked and that was wait until CJ responds and he did and he didn't defend himself. Now just need someone to drop the hammer.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 17, 2012 23:17:26 GMT -4
The only wild card here is if the third party can in fact kill. They haven't so far, but I find it hard to believe that they don't have a one shot kill or something. If I'm correct, they win if only one side remains and the other side is even with them. Trying to see how they can win, we'd have to kill one more mafia and then they'd had to try to convince us to kill a townie and then use their one shot kill. I'll answer this by saying that I am in NO WAY a threat to the town. I am here to help the town find the mafia and win the game. I am not a threat, period. |
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Post by Metrodamus on Jul 17, 2012 23:48:32 GMT -4
See, I was kinda pissed that no one would listen to me last game when I was gonna die during the night phase and it ended up costing the town the game. Heres the thing though, we have the final 4 almost figured out. CJ for sure anti-town and Metro didn't really refute my theory that he is the second third party members. Raab is playing like a noob and can't even read my posts correctly that I said TMarv visited Gates on night one. And Kris is the only one that has the chance to be town outta the four. The only wild card here is if the third party can in fact kill. They haven't so far, but I find it hard to believe that they don't have a one shot kill or something. If I'm correct, they win if only one side remains and the other side is even with them. Trying to see how they can win, we'd have to kill one more mafia and then they'd had to try to convince us to kill a townie and then use their one shot kill. That's why i am going to: Vote: CJ GatesI did what Jules asked and that was wait until CJ responds and he did and he didn't defend himself. Now just need someone to drop the hammer. It's not going to matter if someone hammers so here it is. Raab is scum - there's no way around it. I said Bacon was scum and I was right. I also can find out who the other third party is if CJ is kept alive assuming Jules checks me out tonight and gets the same results as he did the night before last because I think I know why he got inconclusive when he targetted me. I can't do that if CJ is killed though. At that point we're down to one scum out of six players with AC as sure town, Jules as sure town, and me as sure town. If everything goes right we've got this made - if we lynch CJ tonight then exactly what I said ends up happening. |
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Post by Metrodamus on Jul 17, 2012 23:49:27 GMT -4
EBWOP: I think anyone reading that can figure out what my role is.
Now back to my RP
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 18, 2012 5:16:45 GMT -4
It's not going to matter if someone hammers so here it is. Raab is scum - there's no way around it. I said Bacon was scum and I was right. I also can find out who the other third party is if CJ is kept alive assuming Jules checks me out tonight and gets the same results as he did the night before last because I think I know why he got inconclusive when he targetted me. I can't do that if CJ is killed though. At that point we're down to one scum out of six players with AC as sure town, Jules as sure town, and me as sure town. If everything goes right we've got this made - if we lynch CJ tonight then exactly what I said ends up happening. He didn't use his action on you last night, he used it on CJ, I'll also chip in and add to what I said at the end of the last day phase, I have reasons (based on my night action) to believe Captain Metro is person worthy of suspicion. If something happens to me in the night I'd urge you keep that lead in a mind. I can't say I'm 100% on it, because there may be an element of doubt. I didn't follow this up last night because after A.C.'s claim about C.J. I thought it would be prudent to use my night ability to try and corroborate this or reveal any foul play. And you said Bacon was scum and you were right, good guess. We know who the other member of the third party is, you. Just like Bacon coming out and telling everyone to wait on the Blade lynch, you are doing the same. CJ, you're not town, therefore, you are a threat to the town |
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Post by Jules on Jul 18, 2012 5:50:45 GMT -4
I get the distinct impression here that Metro stalling here, although he is right about finding mafia, but there are means of doing that not involving the indirect approach he is suggesting. We can lynch C.J. and if he is third party is clears A.C. and probably means Metro is 3rd party too. If C.J. flips town we know that A.C. is anti-town (but I'm pretty certain this won't be the case).
However, one thing I want to clear up. Metro, the theory about the 'inconclusive' we may be able to solve here and now, if you're hinting the role believe you're hinting at: who did you target night 3?
We were on right-hand drive that night so my results were not manipulated.
Soul, I understand your impatience but there are still one or two matters we can address before we need to hammer the lynch. I haven't read anything to convince me that A.C. is lying, and I would like to hear a reply from Metro to my question. However, rest assured, when the discussion is concluded I will vote C.J.
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Post by Kris on Jul 18, 2012 6:20:01 GMT -4
I've been quiet this game because a lot has been going wrong IRL-- my brother's in the hospital for reasons that are causing a rather massive fight in the family. I'll spare you the details, TJ, but needless to say I'm being as active as I can be given the circumstances. That being said... in the interest of clearing my name, I will point out that the lone night action I have attempted (since I went after the same target as the mafia did in attempting to take T-Marv out) was on Night 3, and it was reflected in the write-up. You should be able to figure out who I am from that, and that I am also, quite clearly, town. Beyond that, there's no new observations that I have which other people have not already put forth. I'm keeping my vote on CJ, Raab's learning curve nearly being a flat line this late into the game is suspicious, Metro's visibly stalling... although what I'm failing to understand, TJ, is this. We know who the other member of the third party is, you. How did you come to this conclusion about Jules? Is it because he wants to get answers to his questions rather than dropping the hammer immediately? |
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Post by [ManiC] on Jul 18, 2012 6:46:00 GMT -4
Well since I'm leaning towards Kris being town and I know I'm town (TJ was spot on about my role/ character which I'm guessing makes me a prime scum target) that leaves Raab on Callahan's list and I'd genuinely rather lynch scum than third party.
Vote: Raab
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Post by [ManiC] on Jul 18, 2012 6:49:11 GMT -4
It's not going to matter if someone hammers so here it is. Raab is scum - there's no way around it. I said Bacon was scum and I was right. I also can find out who the other third party is if CJ is kept alive assuming Jules checks me out tonight and gets the same results as he did the night before last because I think I know why he got inconclusive when he targetted me. I can't do that if CJ is killed though. At that point we're down to one scum out of six players with AC as sure town, Jules as sure town, and me as sure town. If everything goes right we've got this made - if we lynch CJ tonight then exactly what I said ends up happening. He didn't use his action on you last night, he used it on CJ, He said night before last not last night, but that does give us a right handed track. |
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Post by Lord Raab on Jul 18, 2012 9:09:17 GMT -4
My god how I suck at this game. Clearly not playing or reading properly. Not to mention how a lot of times I misread things all the time. OK so someone said that I am a mafia member of some sort? Fair enough that's what people think. I don't think I am playing scummy at all and I am not a threat to town either. I am finding this game harder than I thought I was going to be. Seems like I really have to like put more effort into what people are saying and re read everything again.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 18, 2012 9:29:24 GMT -4
CJ, you're not town, therefore, you are a threat to the town Fair, though what I am saying is that if you lynch me, you'll lose a vote to help you find scum. There is no threat because I don't have a role (100% serious, anything that was had was lost when TMarv died), so there is really no risk in keeping me. You know who I am, and once we get rid of the scum, then you know where to put your votes. With that said, I'm going to go ahead and go with what I was thinking in my earlier post. I had hoped that Raab would have given me a reason not to vote for him. Vote: Raab |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 18, 2012 10:19:31 GMT -4
I've been quiet this game because a lot has been going wrong IRL-- my brother's in the hospital for reasons that are causing a rather massive fight in the family. I'll spare you the details, TJ, but needless to say I'm being as active as I can be given the circumstances. That being said... in the interest of clearing my name, I will point out that the lone night action I have attempted (since I went after the same target as the mafia did in attempting to take T-Marv out) was on Night 3, and it was reflected in the write-up. You should be able to figure out who I am from that, and that I am also, quite clearly, town. Beyond that, there's no new observations that I have which other people have not already put forth. I'm keeping my vote on CJ, Raab's learning curve nearly being a flat line this late into the game is suspicious, Metro's visibly stalling... although what I'm failing to understand, TJ, is this. We know who the other member of the third party is, you. How did you come to this conclusion about Jules? Is it because he wants to get answers to his questions rather than dropping the hammer immediately? At work so I'm doing this over my phone. I didn't come to the conclusion that metro is third party not Jules. If u read my entire post it was directed to metro, Not Jules. Don't know how you got that I was saying Jules is third party |
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Post by [ManiC] on Jul 18, 2012 14:29:20 GMT -4
Think I know who Kris is too if she's telling the truth, so that makes me even more inclined to think that Raab is scum.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 18, 2012 16:42:00 GMT -4
Sorry I meant to say, "I came to the conclusion that Metro was third party not Jules", I was quoting Jules in that post because I thought that Metro took it as Jules used his action on him but I now see he said that the night before, which would be night 3. Well then, the message got one person right in Raab, that means Raab, Metro, and CJ are teh anti-town, what remains is who is the other anti-townie is. The other six players in the game are AC Smith Kris Manic The Soul Jules Chaz Going off who's been cleared, Manic and Kris' characters have been made. And, providing CJ turns 3P, AC is pretty much in the clear. That leaves me, Jules, and Chaz. Of those three, Chaz is the one I'd target as Jules hasn't played much anti town, and if he was scum, I don't think he'd be playing this way, especially with him having Raab, no offense, as his only scum partner left. Also, reading through the pages, Chaz was the first person to defend Bacon, and he did it with gusto, going completely under the radar. Also, pertaining to Jules and Metro, I just saw this: Okay, been out all day so apologies for the absence. My night action turned up some info I'm unsure about. My role gives me definite answers to the questions I ask and last night I got an indefinite answer. It leads me to believe I was either roleblocked, the person I asked a question about is immune to my investigations, or said person was recruited last night. For now... FoS: Captain MetroI know you want your answer, but you have your own answer right there. I know I'm being pushy, but we got CJ as anti-town, we have Raab as Scum, Metro is defending CJ as much as he possibly can, which, to me, makes him out to be third party. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 18, 2012 16:52:47 GMT -4
"I came to the conclusion that Metro was third party not Jules", So, let me see if I am understanding this, TJ. You concede that Raab is anti-town. You know who I am. You've said that Metro is third party. Yet you're still waiting to see what happens with me? I'm trying to tell you that I am not a threat, meaning that there is no worry of death for the town with my in the game. Yet you'd rather keep in mafia who CAN kill, and allow them to chip away at the towns numbers. IF there are two more scum left, as you say, then it makes the most sense to lynch Raab and get a scummer then to let them kill at night, for two nights. |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 18, 2012 17:27:07 GMT -4
Unvote: CJ Gates
i'm not voting for Raab though, as I'll wait for Jules to get his answer and for his response. I know you play honest, hell as third party last game, you played it honest the entire time, but I swear if it comes up to bite the town in teh ass, I'm going to beat you with a cheesesteak.
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Post by Metrodamus on Jul 18, 2012 19:19:18 GMT -4
I get the distinct impression here that Metro stalling here, although he is right about finding mafia, but there are means of doing that not involving the indirect approach he is suggesting. We can lynch C.J. and if he is third party is clears A.C. and probably means Metro is 3rd party too. If C.J. flips town we know that A.C. is anti-town (but I'm pretty certain this won't be the case). However, one thing I want to clear up. Metro, the theory about the 'inconclusive' we may be able to solve here and now, if you're hinting the role believe you're hinting at: who did you target night 3? We were on right-hand drive that night so my results were not manipulated. Soul, I understand your impatience but there are still one or two matters we can address before we need to hammer the lynch. I haven't read anything to convince me that A.C. is lying, and I would like to hear a reply from Metro to my question. However, rest assured, when the discussion is concluded I will vote C.J. I'm not going to tell you solely for the fact that you're going to vote CJ. If town's going to fuck itself up that way I'm not going to hand the scum anything that will help it eliminate townies quicker. Also, for everyone that's saying I'm the other third party - I'd like to mention that this stalling would be A) terrible play, and B) not like me. I'm not inexperienced at this game - why would I do something so terribly stupid to protect an outed teammate from being lynched. It would make absolutely no sense. Instead if I was Scab Boy I'd have been better served sitting under the rocks and letting the scum team pick town off one by one and hope to get lucky on them getting one person lynched so I could get my win. I would gain nothing by sticking my neck out for CJ. It's so terribly stupid. |
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Post by Jules on Jul 19, 2012 4:13:48 GMT -4
I get the distinct impression here that Metro stalling here, although he is right about finding mafia, but there are means of doing that not involving the indirect approach he is suggesting. We can lynch C.J. and if he is third party is clears A.C. and probably means Metro is 3rd party too. If C.J. flips town we know that A.C. is anti-town (but I'm pretty certain this won't be the case). However, one thing I want to clear up. Metro, the theory about the 'inconclusive' we may be able to solve here and now, if you're hinting the role believe you're hinting at: who did you target night 3? We were on right-hand drive that night so my results were not manipulated. Soul, I understand your impatience but there are still one or two matters we can address before we need to hammer the lynch. I haven't read anything to convince me that A.C. is lying, and I would like to hear a reply from Metro to my question. However, rest assured, when the discussion is concluded I will vote C.J. I'm not going to tell you solely for the fact that you're going to vote CJ. If town's going to fuck itself up that way I'm not going to hand the scum anything that will help it eliminate townies quicker. Also, for everyone that's saying I'm the other third party - I'd like to mention that this stalling would be A) terrible play, and B) not like me. I'm not inexperienced at this game - why would I do something so terribly stupid to protect an outed teammate from being lynched. It would make absolutely no sense. Instead if I was Scab Boy I'd have been better served sitting under the rocks and letting the scum team pick town off one by one and hope to get lucky on them getting one person lynched so I could get my win. I would gain nothing by sticking my neck out for CJ. It's so terribly stupid. This doesn't sound like someone who has town's interests at heart. Why be so elusive? vote: C.J. Gates |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 19, 2012 7:26:46 GMT -4
Vote: CJ Gates
I unvoted to give Jules time vote because all that was needed was one vote and I had a feeling the other scum was telling Raab to vote for Gates to get it outta the way.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 19, 2012 9:22:34 GMT -4
Can we get an updated vote count, please?
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 19, 2012 9:33:21 GMT -4
Hopefully this doesn't come back to bite the town in the ass. If there are 2 scum as TJ says their is, then this might have delayed eliminating them and given them a possible two opportunities to kill off townies.
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Post by [ManiC] on Jul 19, 2012 9:37:30 GMT -4
I still don't see third party as a threat. In the last game they weren't particularly a threat, but scum bandwagonned the lynch just to get our last kills in. That's why I voted for Raab. TJ's already revealed my character and I'm pretty sure I know who Kris is (I believe her character has a cattle prod) so that only leaves Raab as a scum on the list. I don't know why people want to hammer the 3rd party lynch more than the scum lynch when scum seems like a larger threat to the town...
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Post by Metrodamus on Jul 19, 2012 10:04:33 GMT -4
I still don't see third party as a threat. In the last game they weren't particularly a threat, but scum bandwagonned the lynch just to get our last kills in. That's why I voted for Raab. TJ's already revealed my character and I'm pretty sure I know who Kris is (I believe her character has a cattle prod) so that only leaves Raab as a scum on the list. I don't know why people want to hammer the 3 rd party lynch more than the scum lynch when scum seems like a larger threat to the town... This is the only townie making sense at the moment. Jules, I'm not going to hand a name over this day phase because if the scum is going to kill it'd narrow down their chance of hitting cult which is what we need tonight to stand even a remote chance based on some form of fuck up. I'll give it to you day phase tomorrow but assuming CJ's lynched it's less reliable. |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 20, 2012 15:37:04 GMT -4
So why is everything so quiet?
And for now, I'm going to have to do this...
Unvote: CJ Gates
I have my reasons. But if you ask TJ, it's because I'm scum. TJ, I'd be careful. Sounds to me like you're just trying to throw somebody under the bus that isn't talking much. Stop with the played out bullshit.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 20, 2012 17:45:22 GMT -4
So why is everything so quiet? And for now, I'm going to have to do this... Unvote: CJ GatesI have my reasons. But if you ask TJ, it's because I'm scum. TJ, I'd be careful. Sounds to me like you're just trying to throw somebody under the bus that isn't talking much. Stop with the played out bullshit. Because according to Callahan's post, this day phase ended at 11:30 AM EST today. ALIVE PLAYERS:ALIVE PLAYERS: 1. A.C. Smith 2. Captain Metro 3. Chaz Dillinger 4. Crown Jules 5. C.J. Gates 6. Kris 7. Manic 8. Stefan Raab 9. The Soul WITH NINE ALIVE IT TAKES FIVE TO CREATE A LYNCH. DAY PHASE ENDS IN 72 HOURS. Date was July 17th at 11:27AM EST which means 72 hours from then would be July 20th, today, at 11:27 AM EST. as that time of the deadline, the official vote count that I got was: CJ Gates - 5 (Kris, Chaz, Soul, Jules, AC) Raab - 3 (Metro, Manic, CJ) And with five needed to create a lynch, and at the time of day phase deadline, we had 5 votes for CJ, CJ should get lynch barring Callahan giving the unvote to you and the no-lynch. |
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 20, 2012 17:47:46 GMT -4
Day is over. Sorry. I've been out all day and only just come home. Once I've resolved this, a write-up will be posted. For now, send in your night actions.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 20, 2012 17:54:27 GMT -4
Having done a vote count, with five votes, that's a lynch.
WRECKED: CJ Gates, Natasha, Cult Vanilla (Formerly Town Bulletproof)
NIGHT PHASE BEGINS NOW. YOU ARE ON NORMAL NIGHT POWERS/RIGHT HAND DRIVE.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 21, 2012 18:13:19 GMT -4
At a junkyard somewhere in the backstreets of Honolulu, Hawaii's capital, an angry group of the remaining rashers including Walleye, Public Enemy No.1., Sergio and Biff surround Natasha with faces like thunder. It was never before conceived that this might happen because she was so well liked yet somehow, the darling princess of the group found herself under the magnifying glass of the gangs fiercest bikers and Natasha had nowhere to run. Biff was the first to speak.
Biff: Natasha, it's time we had a talk about your behaviour lately.
Natasha: Why?
She looked uneasy, understandably so because these guys were ruthless.
Sergio: You've been acting awful strange lately mami. We think you've got something to hide. All that time you spent with the new guy and now Scab Boy? We think you're the rat that's been tellin' the police where we headed to next.
Natasha: No, no! I haven't! Honest! I've been to jail once and I wasn't cooperative then. Why would I sell you out to them now?
Public Enemy No.1.: You're a communist, honey. You're all about state authority.
Her face drops and she starts to panic, knowing in her heart of hearts that argument is futile but hoping that she can win over her old friends to believe her.
Natasha: I'm a moderate!
Walleye: I'm afraid we're going to have to moderate your behaviour. You're not racing with us anymore.
Natasha: If that's what you think is best then sure... But where's my bike?
Lucky Luc: Up here, mon amis!
All eyes head to the glaring Australian sky as above the crusher is Natasha's bike, suspended by a length of chain. Not for long though as soon the hook is released and her slim-line Sports bike drops noisily into the crusher. Gears start activating and the whirring madness of total mechanical destruction begins. Natasha sinks to her knees in pure despair as the rest of the gang walk away.
WRECKED: CJ Gates, Natasha, Cult Vanilla (Formerly Town Bullet Proof, Not Affected by Night Actions)
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High speed scrapping and chasing ensues through the Hawaiian forest roads that Walleye is so used to living in Australian badlands that he takes an easy lead in this particular race. Meanwhile battling for second and third is Lucky Luc and Public Enemy No. 1.. Luc is throwing down oil cans willy nilly to little effect on anyone else while P.E. No.1. is becoming increasingly frustrated with him.
Public Enemy No.1.: I've had about just enough of your crap, Frenchie.
Hitting the nitro and sliding up along side him, she wraps her chain around his throat and starts to choke him unconscious. Luc tries to speed up faster but No.1. matches him mile for mile until he finally loses consciousness. With a boot to the fuel tank, Lucky Luc skids off the road and the front wheel smashes into a rock sending him hurtling off his bike head first into yet another rock. His visor smashed and probably his skull too, Luc sinks away into unconsciousness knowing that he'll probably never race again.
WRECKED: Stefan Raab, Lucky Luc, Town Roleblocker (Alternate Night Town Doubler)
ALIVE PLAYERS:
1. A.C. Smith
2. Captain Metro
3. Chaz Dillinger
4. Crown Jules
5. Kris
6. Manic
7. The Soul
DAY ENDS IN 72 HOURS. THE NEXT RACE IS IN CANBERRA, AUSTRALIA AT WALKABOUTS BAR AND GRILL.
WITH SEVEN ALIVE, IT TAKES FOUR VOTES TO LYNCH.
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Post by Kris on Jul 21, 2012 18:18:15 GMT -4
While it's a shame that my aim proved to be faulty-- I went off of the information of what was deduced by multiple players as to who the scummer is-- it does tell me one thing for sure.
Vote: ManiC
Since one of those three names is scum and Raab flipped town... with my own town alignment and role (with who I am being painfully obvious by now, if you look at the result), that means that ManiC has to be the scummer.
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