My Anti-W.W.E. rantings.

[The Pack]

I hate, the current state of W.W.E. Raw, also I'd like to point out that with N.X.T. when you eliminate a girl like A.J. when even though W.W.E. T.V. is P.G. the audience is not. A.J. is the cute, perky little woman most guys dream about, AND she has actually got some in ring tallent, yet you people prove that N.X.T. is not determined by the fan votes, but by backstage storylines, W.T.F., and on top of that a combination of John Cena becoming Juan Cena, and the Miz winning the W.W.E. Championship? Where in the heck do any of the writers get off thinking this is believeable even with him cashing in money in the bank? The Miz, or should I say Mike Mizannin, should never beat a star the level of Randy Orton, with or without the Money in the Bank, all this does is burn Orton, and why? My seven year old sister could write better shows than this, hell alot of the time W.W.E. television is like watching some of the efeds I participate in come to life. Please come to your senses, and fix this crap, and while I'm here what is the point to N.X.T.? Season one, you have a guy like Daniel Bryan (A.K.A. Bryan Danielson) lose to Wade Barrett, then you bring EVERY member of season one in, and have Bryan be more over than the WINNER OF THE INAGURAL SEASON? Then you even further the stupidity, you have Husky Harris, and Michael McGillicutty, in a potentially better spot than then WINNER of season two (Who by the way is not nammed Kaval, his Name is Lowki, Senshi, could you not have given him a better name than that?), and on top of that what is the point of using N.X.T. to make proven WRESTLER look like JOKES? Basically this all boils down to GET SOME WRITERS WITH SOME CREATIVITY, AND NOT VINCE RUSSO.

[dave]

I believe Low Ki came up with the name Kaval himself, so he could retain the rights to Low Ki and Senshi but I could be wrong.

Secondly, Wade Barrett is no technician but he carries himself well and has a good future. The reason Daniel Bryan is more over is purely the same reason CM Punk was over, the internet. Even a casual fan will jump on a bandwagon faster than Jeff Hardy snorts five lines. And people recognize Bryan's talents, he's a genuine great guy and a guy who appeals to audiences instantly due to his look, size and attitude. I saw him at a UK event in 2007 and he teamed with Doug Williams to take on Austin Aries and Jimmy Jacobs and the guy is intense but more than that, he draws in the crowd with little effort.

Now as for the WWE Title picture, I completely agree and I seriously hope Juan Cena is a sick, perverted joke from the locker of Branden. There's a UK commercial for a kitchen roll called Plenty and the hero of the commercial is a guy called Juan Sheet, since "One sheet, will be plenty", so given that ridiculous attempt at humour, how long before "there's only Juan Cena?"

"I am Juan, I am Juan with the WWE" I mean, it's lame but what can you do?

Most of the WWE is illogical but I really feel Season 1 of NXT was a success and while many are of mixed feelings on Nexus, the emergence of Danielson Bryan and then the successive series of NXT, the Diva NXT and obviously the latest news that the WWE are searching for MORE Hollywood writers, I do feel the WWE has some potential to be solid but not if they continue this cartoon style of booking.

I do feel your frustrations but what's the alternative? TNA? I'd rather stick pins in my eyes

[C.J. Gates]

I think the whole "Juan Cena" thing is for house shows. At least thats what I've heard. Which kind of makes sense since I think everyone can figure out Cena isn't really fired (he's tweeted that he's bought a ticket to the next RAW), so he needs to keep his in ring ability going while supposed to not be on the roster. If this is as far as it goes, that's great. If Juan Cena spills into the on TV show then it's a stupid gimmick.

As for the other stuff, Miz winning was probably one of the points a lot of fans were waiting for this whole year. A lot of fans liked it. Did I? Not really. Like you said, Amber, I find it kind of hard to believe Miz can beat Orton (then again, we must suspend belief). I would have been fine if Miz came out and basically picked up the pieces and just covered a downed Orton and then went on to maybe defend the title via DQ or something shady to show he's not on par and then give it to someone else.

If there is one thing I've realized, its that MITB winners don't typically have a great World title reign when they cash in. So we can at least hope that holds with Miz and he loses in his first or second defense.

[President Jeff]

I can't see the Miz holding the title long. He'll probably drop it at the Elimination Chamber PPV, I can't see him going into the rumble as the champ. If you buy believing that the Miz could beat Orton, you can argue that can you believe that Bret Hart could beat Yokozuna at WM10. Or HBK beating Phycho Sid, or even anyone beating The Big Show, Kane or The Undertaker.

What will determine if Miz is a believeable champ or not is how he's booked as Champion. Hopefully they don't book him like they booked Thwagger.

The Juan Cena thing, its dumb, but it can be funny. But whats more funnier to me is that this 28 year old woman at work thinks Cena really is fired and thinks Vince is stupid for firing him. She's such a mark, I can't bring myself to tell her that its not real ;D

[brandenharvey]

I think they should book Miz against Daniel Bryan this week and have Miz slaughter Bryan. Next week, John Morrison. The following week, Sheamus. The week after, R-Truth. And so on and so forth. That's the only way they can make Miz look like a strong viable champion.

[Level-Two]

I'm more suprised people still actually watch this shit. I was tempted to tune in when I heard Miz was world champion... but then heard the name ''Juan Cena'' and immediately said, fuck it.

So, serious question time.

At what point will you people stop watching the WWE? If you're over the age of 25, I'd say they've already insulted your intelligence. Is there anything the WWE can do that would make you finally turn off the television?

I'm convinced that no matter how bad it gets, most will continue to watch. I find it slightly intresting, considering politics seem to work in the same way, personally. But that's a different subject, all together.

I maybe coming off as a prick but I always do. I just hear so much bitching about the WWE from people who won't put their television controller where their mouth is. I stopped watching, WWE. I then kicked TNA a month later. It was much easier then I thought it would be, lol.

[brandenharvey]

I stopped watching WWE in halfway through 2006. But I watched Royal Rumble through WrestleMania every year during that time. 2007-2009, it didn't make me want to keep watching. Thia year, it was much better than previous years. People still bitch but the current state of WWE is better than it has been in years. It isn't nearly as good as 1996-2000 but it probably never will be. I am entertained by WWE at the moment, even though I disagree with some things (like the lame MITB gimmick). The moment I stop being entertained, I'll stop watching again. No problem.

[delilah]

I've stopped and started watching wrestling several times, I'm currently in a state where I'm watching TNA (my package, I get Impact and PPV's on, say, three day delay simply for subscribing) and watch any WWE vid that sounds interesting on their results. I had stopped watching it in around 2004, watched it again when Sky had the wrestling channel for a while and I could watch ROH, British wrestling and probably the style that appeals most to me, female wrestling (and by wrestling, I mean actually wrestling, MsChif, Cheerleader Melissa (Alissa Flash), Kong, Wesna, Nikita (who you know better as Katie Lea and, I believe, Winter now), Mercedes Martinez and the joshi scene (Megumi Kudo, Mayumi Ozaki and Combat Toyoda) through FMW and GAEA). I still youtube joshi fights, death matches, hardcore matches, plain one on ones, they're usually very good.

Out of the two big ones at the moment, I prefer TNA...or I did before January this year, the shrinking of the women's division (please, knockouts, divas, I do not like those names), the waste they've made of the X Division (a Jersey Shore ripoff who the audience chant boring at as champ makes about as much sense as Miz) and the fading to the background of most of the stars that got TNA where it is, case in point, AJ Styles looks weak as hell now, he had to yank the tights of a midcarder...this from the guy that took on Sting, Samoa Joe and Abyss and beat them clean, it has all gone towards a painful year. It's becoming very much like WWE was when I stopped watching it, quite honestly the only way I see forward there is to kick out Hogan and Bischoff, who like many of the current stars being pushed, didn't give a rat's behind about TNA until it was cool and Russo who...is Russo.

As has been said, the best way to make your opinion known is turning the channel. Doesn't mean a lot in England, the subscription I pay is for the whole service, but the people who buy PPV's, the people who buy tickets, the people who give them ratings watching their shows every week (again, not me, it's not on an actual channel but on 'on demand'), they are the people that need to speak up. In my case it will mean stopping giving either fed's webpage hits two or three times a week, enough people do that and stop watching altogether, they have to take notice.

Edited to note, until Daniel Bryan is the kind of guy that says "I got FIVE, ref!", he's not the American Dragon I loved watching Still, looks fairly good from the clips I've seen.

[BDC]

Meh, it's entertaining, so I watch it.

Yes, some of the storylines are nonesense, and yes, some things are utter shite, but all in all, it could be worse.

Watch it, don't watch it, do what ever you guys want.

I'm gonna carry on watching it, and carry on enjoying it

[Jimmy The Lock]

I agree with Chris. Although sooner or later, they're going to have the break the cycle. With the exception of Mr. Kennedy (Who lost his briefcase to Edge, who cashed it in that same week) Every single MITB winner has become champion. At this point it's starting to look predictable.

Which is why I for one saw Miz cashing in his title shot a mile away. As for "Juan Cena", well, you didn't suspect he would go away that easily, did ya ? Be optimistic, maybe he'll adopt some luchadore maneuvers into his moveset. (Wishful thinking i know, but could you imagine John Cena landing a hurricanranna on someone? The arena would explode!) But like Chris said, it's entertainment, nothing more, nothing less, and i just take it for what it is.

[Cid Phoenix]

I've been out of the loop for awhile (not watching) It's painful to watch... But hell, after hearing all this, I wouldn't be surprised if they made The Brooklyn Brawler an Intercontinental Champ or even put the tag straps back on Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff! ;D Other than that, No - I don't see Miz beating Orton clean, HOWEVER, they have been pushing him as a future champ... Hopefully, they'll put the strap back on Jericho when HE comes back (hopefully as Y2J, and not whiny Jericho)

[JD Storm]

know i remember why i stopped watching wrestling. got tired of all the boring & ridiculous crap.

[Cid Phoenix]

Better to Have Miz Champ Than Barrett... But Jericho's Takin' It When He Comes Back...WORD.

[JD Storm]

here's something in defense of Miz. WWE can't possibly develop new main event stars if everyone is getting jobbed to guys like Orton, Cena or anyone else on the top. that's why WWE was having problems building stars for so long. too many people, at one time, were getting jobbed to HHH, just to stroke his ego.

plus, i seem to remember how Orton won his first world title. i don't remember anyone being too thrilled about that. i know i don't view Orton as much of a main eventer, now, but that's not really the point.

[brandenharvey]

I think Orton's very good these days. But until recently, no, he wasn't much of a main eventer.

[JD Storm]

the only time i liked Orton was well before he was a main eventer. i remember specifically, he was still new in Evolution and seemed to have a streak of bad luck when it came to injuries. during the time he was out, he'd do these "RNN" updates, stating how far along he was on recovering. that would get pretty hilarious. even during his tenure as IC Champion, Orton was actually fun to watch, for the most part.

once he broke away from Evolution, i had a hard time enjoying him. trying too hard to be serious. when he has to be "demented & evil", i can't take him seriously. i found him to be most entertaining when he could get away with acting more natural & have fun doing it.

[dave]

the "Viper" persona of Orton is one of the most watchable characters in a long time. With one twitch of the neck he has a crowd in the palm of his hand. I would love to see a CM Punk-Orton feud that went on for months and was very personal, pure hatred. That would be an amazing feud.

[brandenharvey]

Juan Cena:

[JD Storm]

Nov 29, 2010 16:11:29 GMT -4 dave said:

the "Viper" persona of Orton is one of the most watchable characters in a long time. With one twitch of the neck he has a crowd in the palm of his hand. I would love to see a CM Punk-Orton feud that went on for months and was very personal, pure hatred. That would be an amazing feud.

the "Viper" gimmick is nothing more then a watered down version of Austin.

did i ever mention that i can't stand Orton? whenever i see him on TV, i get the urge to throw a brick a the TV.

[Level-Two]

Nov 29, 2010 20:01:34 GMT -4 @brandenharvey said:

Juan Cena:

Stupid.

Apparently, he's fired right? Why not just have him as himself then? You obviously aren't fooling anyone with that; and they didn't even bother try to hide that it isn't him. No moveset changes and even wears the same attire, with just a mask.

I understand we're supposed to expand our imagination when it comes to this... but this is so brazen; it's less expanding your imagination and more about feining an IQ of 70.

What speaks volume about the WWE isn't the shit pay-per-views or the garbage shows they put on. It's the fact, they can't do without a guy for a couple of months without worrying about losing ticket sales, merch sales, and television ratings.

God forbid, John Cena gets injured.

Sigh. Whatever.

[Jimmy The Lock]

lol...The Miz's first title defense comes against Jerry Lawler in a TLC match....

[Jesse Nuñez™]

Anyone notice they made Cena Mexican and that my pic base is Cena but with a Hispanic last name? Just putting it out there.

[brandenharvey]

After watching RAW, I think the Juan Cena thing is just for House Shows. I mean, they can't have a fired Cena compete at House Shows. But they can't have a money maker like Cena NOT compete at House Shows either. Juan Cena is their way out of this predicament they put themselves into.

[dave]

Nov 29, 2010 22:46:11 GMT -4 JD Storm said:

Nov 29, 2010 16:11:29 GMT -4 dave said:

the "Viper" persona of Orton is one of the most watchable characters in a long time. With one twitch of the neck he has a crowd in the palm of his hand. I would love to see a CM Punk-Orton feud that went on for months and was very personal, pure hatred. That would be an amazing feud.

the "Viper" gimmick is nothing more then a watered down version of Austin.

did i ever mention that i can't stand Orton? whenever i see him on TV, i get the urge to throw a brick a the TV.

The only connection between the Austin and Orton persona's are the use of a snake as their nickname.

Orton doesn't live on chaos and doesn't raise hell. Orton is calculated, methodical and keeps things on his own level.

LOL whom do you hate more? Orton or HHH? Because it seems as if HHH will be returning very soon. Sheamus winning KOTR only confirms that ;D

[brandenharvey]

I think HHH had The Miz booked poorly as champion so he can say, "Look. The Miz is a poor champion. Give me the title."

[JD Storm]

you seriously had to remind me of HHH, didn't you dave? you knew that would get my blood boiling, just by merely mentioning it. i swear, if there's such a thing as Hell, my form of Hell would involve watching every Triple H match available.

[brandenharvey]

HHH isn't a bad wrestler. I just don't like how he manipulates things behind he scenes. He uses the fact that he's married to his bosses daughter to underbook every champion other than himself and keep himself on top.

[JD Storm]

not only does he manage to underbooks any other champion, but he manages to do the same thing to anyone that could potentially become a contender for the title.

[brandenharvey]

I agree. It's ridiculous. He's WWE's Level-One.

[Level-Two]

Nov 30, 2010 23:59:48 GMT -4 @brandenharvey said:

I agree. It's ridiculous. He's WWE's Level-One.

The only problem is; I don't book the show nor have any input on how things go, outside my own character...

Oh, and that I actually win my matches. ;D