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Post by ajking on Apr 9, 2011 20:48:47 GMT -4
Hmmm not sure but that would explain a lot from him.
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 9, 2011 20:57:17 GMT -4
He did ask for it, and I agreed, but that was before I realized he didn't have an investigative role. Of course, he still could, but if Jeff is hinting that he investigated Sally last night (WHICH he never actually said he found out at night, he just said he was sure), Yes found out at Night. Lester, your wasting your time on Sally. Yah, she seemed Scummy, I agree with you 100%. I voted for her on day 1. But now that I know what side she's on, we need to focus on everyone else. Cause we're running out of time and if everyone is going back and forth on rather Sally is really scum or not, then then its Lynch time, everyone isn't gonna know what to do and then Lynch another town. If one of the scums believe what I say, I have no doubt that they will kill me in Night 2. That's why need need to Lynch a Scum before the Day is up so even though you lose one townie, you'll get rid of one scum. We need to start looking at Branden, CJ, Kaji, AJ, Level One and Jesse. |
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 9, 2011 20:58:11 GMT -4
Oh, and Branden did say he was going to be away today or something.
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Post by ajking on Apr 9, 2011 21:07:21 GMT -4
I really want to hear from Kaji and jesse branden everyone was ready to lynch first day so that we can put to the side for now. At least have it as a backup if nothing is found on Kaji and Jesse but I have a bad feeling about lynching without enough facts. The problem is Jeff L1 makes a point of the roles thing and your not taking any concideration to that makes me wonder if you are scum pretending to be townie and running us all on a goose chase like i mentioned earlier or if your legit and just fed the wrong info because of her role. There is no real way to be absolutely certain but I agree we shouldnt waste our time on her just yet. Look at the rest and see what comes up and hopefully we can get one before we lose one to the scum again. Wither it be Jeff or someone else with a less obvious power play in their pocket.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 9, 2011 21:32:03 GMT -4
The problem is, Jeff you should have never publicly announced that you had this power. Now scum is likely to kill you at night phase, unless someone has a power. The problem is, you haven't investigated more then one person, yet. Maybe if you were able to scout more then one person, we'd have a better idea on who to vote for.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 9, 2011 22:54:05 GMT -4
The problem is, Jeff you should have never publicly announced that you had this power. I guess I should take some of the blame for him having outed that info, because I couldn't take it just as "Sally is town". Call me skeptical on that front, especially after Day one. Now for a little food for thought. Last time we had 3 scum for 9 people, right? So I guess it's safe(r) to assume 3 for a game of 10. We have 8 people left. I'm town, and if we're going to accept what Jeff has said, then he and Sally would be town. That leaves 5 people who could be scum. L1, Branden, Kaji, Jesse and King. Three of them would be part of the mafia. King is trying to get us all to stop argue about one person, and wanted us to wait until we heard more from others. Perhaps that was his way to run out the clock and have us bring in more suspects to possibly lynch a townie? Though, if he was scum he would know that Sally and Jeff were town, and wouldn't want to stop the bickering in hopes that it would lead to votes... Jesse and Kaji have been on some people's radars, though I can't call out too much about them. Jesse has been quieter than most, and maybe that falls into L1's logic of him sitting back and letting others bicker. He was the hammer on Blade, though, if that matters. And Kaji's posts have hit me as odd...but I can't tell if that's just him being him or not. L1 hasn't done much (other than his dissection of Sally) for me to point him as scum as of now. Branden, while being the second vote for Blade, offered up no reason other than a short one liner. His vote seemed almost retaliatory because Blade was trying to lynch him. If we're putting him on the back burner, we should keep an eye on his responses. I'm not going to lay a vote on anyone just yet, but that's how I've been seeing things. |
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 10, 2011 1:32:57 GMT -4
Okay. I'm back. I just got caught up.
I've looked around. I feel Level One has a point about the godfather thing. But that would be quite the coincedence for Jeff to hit the godfather on the first try. I'd be more ready to believe that both of them are scum. Or that Jeff is insane.
However, the person that has come off the most scummy this day phase is Level One, in my opinion. I'm not saying lynch him. I'm just saying he's close to move up to the top of my list.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 10, 2011 2:22:29 GMT -4
You mean, like the coincidence that the doctor was killed on the first night?
Regardless, it's easy to come back and judge others, after you've been gone all day, and thus said nothing at all.
Your claim that Jeff might be an insane cop or something, is FAR more speculative then the possibility of Sally being a godfather, btw... especially in a game full of first and second time players. Also that card you play in general just comes across scummy....
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 10, 2011 2:39:29 GMT -4
Also that card you play in general just comes across scummy.... What card? Elaborate. |
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 10, 2011 6:08:39 GMT -4
I can't even begin to think who could be scum IF in fact Jeff and Sally are townies. I'm all up for taking our chances at the night phase instead of lynching another potential townie. Jeff seems to think if we do wait however that he would be the one who kicks the bucket. Now if thats who the scums are going to go for, someone just needs to keep him protected at night and the scums will fail at their attempt.
Now knowing its a possibility that Jeff would be protected in that situation the scums would have to go after a different townie instead of Jeff. Which could be Sally if Jeff and her are telling the truth about their status or perhaps CJ as he blatantly "claims" to be a townie.
Now if the scums do not decide to kill off either Sally or CJ as they throw themselves out as "townies." That would indicate that one of them are indeed scum. Now this is only IF Jeff is protected as he would be our most important piece to getting the scum as we go further in this game.
If Jeff so happens to be killed than those 2 would be in the clear for now.
Now this is only if we go into the night phase without deciding on a lynch.
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 10, 2011 6:14:41 GMT -4
Also if there is no one to protect Jeff the scums won't be able to know and a townie would be sacrificed because they will think he is protected. We have to think of the whole picture here. Pawns are out there to create a diversion for the greater good and this could be that our pawns/townies block the king/cop from the scums.
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 10, 2011 6:25:17 GMT -4
How much time do we have left on this day?
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 10, 2011 6:28:44 GMT -4
Is today the last day?
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 10, 2011 9:25:17 GMT -4
I usually would have chimed in with a votecount by now but.... Vote Count: ----- Deadline is Tomorrow.... We'll say aobut 24 hours from now...give or take when I feel like getting online  Happy scum hunting folks. |
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 10, 2011 13:21:05 GMT -4
Ok, Here's what I think we need to do
We need to Lynch someone. And here's why
If we Lynch someone and they turn up scum, then I'm dead at night and you find out my role. You'll find out I was telling the Truth about Sally, clearing her name. So we lose 1, they lose 1 and you still got the numbers advantage
If we don't Lynch, they kill me off and they get the advantage in Lynching numbers. Meaning, they need 4 to lynch (1 Townie, 3 scum) they'll be picking you all off 1 by 1.
If we Lynch and we're wrong, then your in the same boat as above.
We need to roll the dice and take a chance.
I don't know if theres any other roles out there that could save me, but I suggest you try to so I can investiage someone else
So I'm going to start the voting and vote the person that's been #1 on my list after day 1.
Vote: Branden Harvey
I believe he took took out the two most experienced players in the game and is now accusing me of being insane because he's scared cause he know's I'm onto him. Blade was 100% sure Branden was scum, now Blade is dead. Ryan thought for sure he was scum, and he's dead. Time to kill Branden before he gets to me.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Apr 10, 2011 13:26:31 GMT -4
I'm still not prepared to do a full post (gotta' finish a promo for Asylum before 7 tonight, it's 1:30), but I trust Jeff 100%. I believe he is town, I believe Sally is town, and Branden is running out of time. You'd better come up with something fast, kid.
Vote: Branden Harvey
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 10, 2011 13:32:15 GMT -4
I believe he took took out the two most experienced players in the game and is now accusing me of being insane because he's scared cause he know's I'm onto him. Blade was 100% sure Branden was scum, now Blade is dead. Ryan thought for sure he was scum, and he's dead. Time to kill Branden before he gets to me. I wouldn't have killed Blade for claiming that I'm scum. He does it in every game and he always says he's 100% sure. Guess what? He hasn't been right yet. He's not right this time either. As for Ruckus, do you really think I'd be stupid enough to kill someone that voted for me? You guys said you wanted to give me a chance to scum hunt? I have been. I came up with Vote: Level One |
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 10, 2011 13:39:52 GMT -4
Well, this comes as no suprise--but everything Jeff has said about Branden can be applied to Sally. I don't know why Branden is voting for me, but whatever. If I am right or wrong with my decision, I guess I'll have to deal with the consequences; but I'm going with my gut here.
Vote: Sally
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 10, 2011 13:44:13 GMT -4
EWOP
And how have we established that there's three scum, Jeff? Didn't Ryan Ruckus make a mistake in the last game and made too many people scum? Two is far more reasonable. If we're looking for three, then it just gives us more liberity to lynch the wrong person in the name of ''odds''.
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 10, 2011 13:52:05 GMT -4
I'm assuming theres 3 with this many people. I could be wrong.
But looking at your move Lester, I'm Changing my vote
Unvote Branden
Vote: Level One
You don't want to believe me (Or maybe you do). Makes me think your about to try and get rid of Sally now, get rid of me in the night. Get rid of two confimed towns and then you set to win
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 10, 2011 14:04:30 GMT -4
Wow, dude. Defensive much?
You obviously haven't written anything I wrote. Which is suspcious to me. I never said you're lying about being a cop. Nor about your investigation. However, I think Sally is top dog scum who lead the kill on Ryan Ruckus to plant it either on YOU or Branden. Your investigation does nothing but perhaps give us a better vote. She could and in my opinion, is still scum. And your vote for anyone else, is no more valid then mine. This is still a guessing game at this point.
But if you DO want me to question your role all together, pulling flip flops like that; is a really great way to get the ball rolling.
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 10, 2011 14:12:54 GMT -4
By voting Sally, your not helping the town out what so ever and by not helping the town, that makes you scum. You we're wrong about Blade, you we're Wrong in the first Mafia game. What makes you think your right about Sally now. I know for a FACT Sally is town, why don't you believe me? Yah, Sally looked scummy(Who hasn't), but like I've said before, I gurantee you she's not. And if your really a townie, then getting rid of you or sally, will make no difference and we lose either way. Take your pick
And Branden, You scum hunted Level One, care to elaborate as to why?
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 10, 2011 14:18:39 GMT -4
And Branden, You scum hunted Level One, care to elaborate as to why? It seems to me he's been picking his spots. Unless he's in trouble, he doesn't seem to want to vote for somebody. He votes when he's either in trouble or wasn't the one that started the lynch wagon. He doesn't want blood on his hands to be traced back to me. I also think he's trying to frame me. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 10, 2011 14:39:03 GMT -4
Ok, Here's what I think we need to do We need to Lynch someone. And here's why If we Lynch someone and they turn up scum, then I'm dead at night and you find out my role. You'll find out I was telling the Truth about Sally, clearing her name. So we lose 1, they lose 1 and you still got the numbers advantage If we don't Lynch, they kill me off and they get the advantage in Lynching numbers. Meaning, they need 4 to lynch (1 Townie, 3 scum) they'll be picking you all off 1 by 1. If we Lynch and we're wrong, then your in the same boat as above. So even though there's a higher chance that we lynch a townie and then lose a townie, something you are highly against, we STILL have to take a reach and lynch someone. Again, I'm not saying you're scum, just that it doesn't make much sense. There are 8 alive. IF there are 3 scum and we don't lynch, we lose you at night, we can assume Sally is town and have 7 left, 4 town and 3 scum. We still have numbers and might have a better idea as to who is scum. If we lynch and lynch wrong, we lose 2 townies and the numbers, and the game is pretty much done with. I don't want to push for a no lynch because there is the possibility of us getting a scum, but with 24 hours left, and everyone voting different people, I just don't see it happening... ALSO: If you already voted for Lester for your own reasons, why did you need Branden to explain himself? |
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 10, 2011 14:45:59 GMT -4
Ok, Here's what I think we need to do We need to Lynch someone. And here's why If we Lynch someone and they turn up scum, then I'm dead at night and you find out my role. You'll find out I was telling the Truth about Sally, clearing her name. So we lose 1, they lose 1 and you still got the numbers advantage If we don't Lynch, they kill me off and they get the advantage in Lynching numbers. Meaning, they need 4 to lynch (1 Townie, 3 scum) they'll be picking you all off 1 by 1. If we Lynch and we're wrong, then your in the same boat as above. There are 8 alive. IF there are 3 scum and we don't lynch, we lose you at night, we can assume Sally is town and have 7 left, 4 town and 3 scum. We still have numbers and might have a better idea as to who is scum. If we lynch and lynch wrong, we lose 2 townies and the numbers, and the game is pretty much done with. with 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch (assuming we don't lynch and a townie gets killed) So lets say I get killed. Lets say Level One is town, he votes Sally, then the 3 scums (assuming theres 3) all vote sally (who is a town) then bang, another townie gone. We need to gamble to take and try to lynch out a scum cause if we don't, the scum just have to wait for a townie to vote another townie and then they all jump on the voting wagon and then your screwed I'm not 100% sure that Level One is scum. I still think Branden is. Knowing that Level One plays an agressive game, Branden is probably planting seeds to get Level One lynched so we all turn on him, the same way everyone turned on Blade. |
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 10, 2011 14:52:44 GMT -4
Stop acting like an idiot, Branden. Trying to frame you? LOL! Show me one post where I even explicity, target you? I haven't targetted you not because I believe you're necessarly town; but instead I believe Sally is scum. Maybe you're working with her. I don't know. But now you're just pulling things out of your ass.
You don't know for a fact that Sally is town. What don't you understand? This game is never as cut and dry as you'd like it to be. The fact that you TARGETED Sally out EVERYONE day one; by your own admission that meant you thought she was scummy, even scummier then Blade. So, how can you then rule out the possibility of Sally having a godfather role, that apparently is in every game?
And yes, I've been wrong. So, maybe I shouldn't vote at all. Would you rather me do that, Jeff?
As for CJ...
Jeff thinks he has a crystal ball or something. His cop role has gotten to his head and thinks his powers can do no wrong.
Even if I was to change my vote, which I will not; if Branden is lynched and he turns out to be town, I'll just be blamed and targeted by Jeff--the cop, again. And then what? You get the lynch on me? With Sally and whoever her scum buddy still having a vote, it's a great way to lose the game for town.
I'm not down with that, Jeff.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 10, 2011 15:01:32 GMT -4
EWOP
Well, if you're saying there is three scum in the game, we lose if we lynch the wrong person.
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6 left. Three scum. Three town. Deadlock. Game over.
I think the lynch is important; but it's not the end of the earth, either way. I doubt there is three scum in a ten person game... but then again, Ryan Ruckus said otherwise last game, lol.
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 10, 2011 15:14:49 GMT -4
Level One sounds like he knows how much scum there is. Jeff, lynch Level One today and, if he's not scum, I'll vote for myself tomorrow. That's how sure I am now.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 10, 2011 15:16:12 GMT -4
Exactly. And right now, the ones being fingered, I am not seeing a clear cut 100% reason why to vote for them. There are reasons, but I just don't want to lynch a townie, and I find it hard to believe that the three names floating around are all scum.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 10, 2011 15:16:52 GMT -4
Level One sounds like he knows how much scum there is. Jeff, lynch Level One today and, if he's not scum, I'll vote for myself tomorrow. That's how sure I am now. If we lynch L1 and he's town, then we lose a town tonight, you won't be able to vote for yourself because the game will be over IF there are 3 scum. |
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