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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 10, 2011 15:23:04 GMT -4
That's a big if, CJ.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Apr 10, 2011 16:05:52 GMT -4
So let's assume there's three scum. Who's in this game?
Kaji Ceej Branden Jeff Sally King Jesse Lester
As I've already made clear, I believe Jeff is town and Sally is town. That leaves
Ceej Branden King Jesse Lester.
I've already made my opinion on Branden clear. I'm not unvoting him unless he has a damn good argument and "I THINK IT'S LESTER" is not good enough.
Kaji (town) Ceej Branden (scum) Jeff (town) Sally (town) King Jesse Lester
If there are three scum, that means two out of Ceej, King, Jesse, and Lester are scum, and if I had to judge from behavior, I'm leaning toward King and Jesse. Lester or Ceej could easily be fooling me, but my inclination as of posting is that the scum are Branden, Jesse, and King. That means we've got
Town Kaji Jeff Sally Ceej Lester
Scum King Jesse Branden
I'm not saying this is set in stone, but this is my thoughts. We've got until nightfall to try and hone it and refine it so we have a better idea of what we're up against. Let's do it fast, because we don't have much time.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 10, 2011 16:06:44 GMT -4
Level One sounds like he knows how much scum there is. Jeff, lynch Level One today and, if he's not scum, I'll vote for myself tomorrow. That's how sure I am now. So, it's okay for Jeff to say there's three scum; but bad when I say, it's more likely to be two? And if we're lead to believe I am scum, I'd openly bait myself out that easily? I'm starting to think you're trying to get me to vote for you, so you can pin me on a flip flop. Perhaps, Blade was onto something with you.
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 10, 2011 16:31:12 GMT -4
It's getting tougher to make choices when everyone posts such valid arguments. I can see Jeff's reasoning to need to lynch before night to try and get a scum out but the chances are not on our side to get them out. After the Blade vote I feel bad going with the popular vote and not having enough sure information to cast my own vote. Now there is blood on my hands and I don't want to make the same mistake twice.
So I'm still voteless at this time and leaning on taking a chance at the night phase still and hopefully theres someone out there that can protect a townie, therefore if the mafia go after the one who is protected and fail then we would know for sure that that person is a townie and that will further better our chances on lynching scum the next day.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 10, 2011 16:49:57 GMT -4
Jesse, you have the same information that the rest of us have. So 'not having enough information' doesn't seem like a valid argument.
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 10, 2011 16:58:27 GMT -4
Jesse, you have the same information that the rest of us have. So 'not having enough information' doesn't seem like a valid argument. I mean it by not having enough information to make it a 100% guarantee vote.
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 10, 2011 20:46:15 GMT -4
Well I'm done posting for the night. My final vote is
Unvote: Level One
Vote: Branden Harvey
I gave you all the info that I have, its up to you what you want to do with it
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 10, 2011 20:59:04 GMT -4
So is Branden who we're going to vote for? I mean, everyone seems to be someone suspicious of him right? Though if he flips town we're screwed...
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 10, 2011 21:04:33 GMT -4
if he flips town we're screwed... You guys sure you want to do this? I'm telling you that Level One is scum. I'd stake my reputation on it. If he's not, I'll vote for myself if I'm scum in the next game. Or any game after that. But I'm not and he is.
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Post by SalTal on Apr 10, 2011 22:04:45 GMT -4
What's ajking thinking? He was the other one to be pretty heavy on me.
Aside from that, everyone doe seem to suspect you to varying degrees Branden. I was heavy on you the first round, and I've been too busy fending Levl-One off (who has at least stuck to his guns as well) to actually think about you very hard. You have been pretty sly this round, though that might be a timing issue. You say all sorts of certainties, but without much proof. But you might be covering a role yourself.
But when the heat gets back to you, you get these guarantees that someone else should get lynched. Last round you were pretty certain on me when I was making a case for you. Now, when Jeff is making a reasonable case to you, you have a certainty that Level-One is scum. You only came up with your guarantee after people called you out for your lack if previously promised scum-hunting as well.
Vote: Branden
I should have stuck with my gut the first time. Much like Lester is doing with me, I'll wear the consequences if you turn up town.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Apr 10, 2011 22:19:42 GMT -4
So is Branden who we're going to vote for? I mean, everyone seems to be someone suspicious of him right? Though if he flips town we're screwed... If he flips town we're screwed...but he's not done us any good. We gave him time to scum hunt, but we're out of time now. If he turns up scum, we've got the number advantage. If he turns up town, we're screwed. If he lives and continues doing an oh so excellent job of scum hunting, then we're screwed. If he turns up scum, we have a chance. I don't know about you, but I'd rather take the chance at having a shot than just sit and wait to be picked off.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 10, 2011 22:49:32 GMT -4
Well, I'm going to roll the dice. I've been suspicious of Branden since the first day and with him looking like our best bet...
Vote: Branden
I think Sally said it best. Every time someone comes hard at you, you find someone to deflect to. I maintain that you probably don't have a role, so scum hunting was just going to be you going on gut instinct. If you're town, well, then we pretty much lose the game (if those numbers are right, always the possibility there are only 2 scum). But if you are town, then you haven't done much to really show it.
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Post by ajking on Apr 11, 2011 1:36:38 GMT -4
Ok so here are my thoughts so far... Jeff is playing hard for a lynch not like him. He could be scum with that said that is my reasoning for being hard on you sal is because if Jeff is scum then that would put in my eyes you Jeff and a toss up between L1/kaji(gut feeling and as previously stated before)/Jesse. Now the way I see things right now is simply a numbers game. We lynch Brandon then he is town we are down and if jeff is killed they win. Sal affiliation is revealed at the end of the game as well as everyone else. Then we find out who was right and who was wrong.
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We pass the lynch through the night scum takes out a townie if it is Jeff then just maybe the guns are off Sal a little but not completely due to accuracy of Godfather role. We only lose 1 rather then 2 and we try to gather for a good lynch. It's almost a damned if we do damned if we don't play. There could be roles floating around we dont have in play yet but its a long stretch to rely on them so right now I honestly am not completely sure what we do here. I'm inclined to see how the branden thing goes but at the same time I'm worried that if mistaken we blew a chance to salvage the game.
Tell you what convince me why Branden is a better risk then waiting and you have my vote. But then again you don't need it lynch him.
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 11, 2011 1:43:07 GMT -4
Ok so here are my thoughts so far... Jeff is playing hard for a lynch not like him. He could be scum with that said that is my reasoning for being hard on you sal is because if Jeff is scum then that would put in my eyes you Jeff and a toss up between L1/kaji(gut feeling and as previously stated before)/Jesse. Now the way I see things right now is simply a numbers game. We lynch Brandon then he is town we are down and if jeff is killed they win. Sal affiliation is revealed at the end of the game as well as everyone else. Then we find out who was right and who was wrong. OR We pass the lynch through the night scum takes out a townie if it is Jeff then just maybe the guns are off Sal a little but not completely due to accuracy of Godfather role. We only lose 1 rather then 2 and we try to gather for a good lynch. It's almost a damned if we do damned if we don't play. There could be roles floating around we dont have in play yet but its a long stretch to rely on them so right now I honestly am not completely sure what we do here. I'm inclined to see how the branden thing goes but at the same time I'm worried that if mistaken we blew a chance to salvage the game. Tell you what convince me why Branden is a better risk then waiting and you have my vote. But then again you don't need it lynch him. You just said what I've been saying all along! I don't see how you could even think I am a scum if you post exactly what I have been saying for quite awhile now with you agreeing on my ideas.
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Post by ajking on Apr 11, 2011 1:56:04 GMT -4
After looking back through the events that have occured. I see Sal point in Branden. I understand the risk and know that if he turns up townie someone needs to teach him how to play the game. But it just still seems like a mistake to me, but Jeff's arguement of L1 is valid in my eyes but his jumpy vote makes me wonder. I see Branden getting lynched I dont think anything can change that fact but voting for him we have CJ, Sal, Jeff, and did Kaji vote for him? L1 after Sal with Jeff putting up a valid defense to Sal and discrediting L1's gut instinct. And Jesse having not placed a vote as well as myself. This leads me to believe one of two things... L1, Jesse, and Branden could be scum. Or Jeff Sal and ?? I can understand why CJ did vote but to want to wait out the vote but jumped on board with everyone. So in second group i could see Jeff and Sal but no clue who would be the third in all honesty. The choice seems to be made pretty much though just everyone concider the fact that we could be wrong Branden is a bad player as of what I have seen. Is he a horrid townie that dont comprehend his part or scum trying to weasel along as he had before? I'm not a 100% confident in a vote for branden but tomorrow's talks will make my decision for my vote so let's hear anything anyone has to say.
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Post by ajking on Apr 11, 2011 1:59:18 GMT -4
yeah Jesse i missed a couple of your comments honestly you've dropped from my radar i believe townies are me you and CJ for the most part. There are a couple toss ups. I went back and reread everything thats why i posted again. That was my bad I'm tired. But you've dropped as to where my later explaination has pushed a couple others up.
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Post by ajking on Apr 11, 2011 2:01:40 GMT -4
EWOP
sorry bout the confusion in my post its late im tired my eyes are going crossed lol. So let see what the new day brings and get a decision in tomorrow before deadline on what to do.
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Post by SalTal on Apr 11, 2011 3:34:36 GMT -4
I'm not a 100% confident in a vote for branden but tomorrow's talks will make my decision for my vote so let's hear anything anyone has to say. I'd put forward a case (compelling or otherwise) but I'm 100% sure I'd be branded as scum for trying to convince you. I think you're best to read the argument made by Kaji (I can't be blamed for pointing out his post, can I?) and Jeff and, to be fair, read the disection of my made by Level-One. That is where the line is right now: Branden (with three votes) and me (with one vote).
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 11, 2011 4:06:04 GMT -4
I am leaning on toward a vote to Branden only because he hasn't helped us in the hunt for scums that well and hes acted more scum than town. However I'll only cast that vote if we can all agree on taking our chances with the lynch, if not then I'm just gonna wait til I get a better idea on who to vote for or just take our chances at night.
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Post by ajking on Apr 12, 2011 1:14:46 GMT -4
Still no call to night? Well write it as a death warrant Branden either learn to play better or die like the scum you are.
Vote: Branden
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 12, 2011 6:22:10 GMT -4
First... let me appologize for being late on the deadline. I was traveling yesterday for work, and just got too tired to do anything. Won't happen again.
Second.... We Have a Lynch!!!
Dead: Branden Harvey
Character Name: Heidi Montag Alignment: Mafia Role: Godfather
Alrighty.... lets get those night actions in folks...24 hours
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 12, 2011 10:29:54 GMT -4
AJ didn't bold his vote. It shouldn't have counted.
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 13, 2011 18:15:57 GMT -4
Just to let everyone know, the game has been put on hold for the time being as Tmarv has a personal situation come up
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 15, 2011 12:42:10 GMT -4
Do you mind if I try to mod a game while this one is on hold?
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Post by President Jeff on May 14, 2011 20:48:53 GMT -4
Since it looks like this game isn't going anywheres, What we're everyone's roles. Here's mine
Character Name: Glenn Beck Alignment: Town Role: Cop
Each Night you send in a person you want to investigate and I will tell you TOWN or ANTI TOWN.
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Post by brandenharvey on May 15, 2011 1:38:25 GMT -4
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Post by SalTal on May 15, 2011 3:16:51 GMT -4
Character Name: Miley Cyrus Alignment: Town Role: Plain old Townie
It's your job to help the town win by voting during the day. You have no other powers.
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Post by SalTal on May 15, 2011 3:38:43 GMT -4
And might I just add that reading the Branden/Level thread was so enjoyable! I love it!
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Post by Level-Two on May 15, 2011 4:12:30 GMT -4
LOL! I was Spencer Pratt, Hitman.
I felt somewhat sorry after targeting you so hard Sally, lol. Being scum was fun plotting wise but I rather be a townie and feel no guilt in calling people out....
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Post by SalTal on May 15, 2011 4:53:23 GMT -4
Hahaha! I was convinced that you hated me, L1! You make a good scum. It was only speaking to you in chat the other week that I thought "Hmmm, maybe Mafia was just a game ..."
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