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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 9:32:53 GMT -4
Btw! Wasn't going to point this out. But ah hell, what the heck I have to lose? My spot on this game? lol From Scum in your first post. I'm now a Insane Cop! And you accuse me of flip flopping. Okay John Kerry the second. but since you make such a case against me. Using the Insane Cop thing and since I have no clue (see I'm no a damn liar) if I am Insane or or not. (I need to be explained how the roles work in the game) I'm going to do you and your scum friends this as a huge favor. Unvote: CJ Gates
Vote: Stephan HartAnother step closer to taking a townie out. I simply don't think the mod will give me such a role, as an Insane Townie cop, knowing full well I'm new and still learning the game. But whatever makes you happy. People of town, when I turn up as a Town Cop, and if I'm not insane. Please rid CJ Gates from the game. It's the best move you town people can do when I'm gone. Do not debate, it will reach you nowhere and it'll gave the scum to plot and scheme and confuse you (like they are doing now). Hope you enjoy the game, I did, and I'm out.  PS: Can't wait to see the outcome. |
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 9:35:32 GMT -4
remember you unvoted me! And I actually called you a townie.
But cookie cutter it is since you are leaving out the facts.
Okay I'm out, really I am lol
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Jul 22, 2011 9:40:49 GMT -4
People smarten up! You can see my hard work, maybe even going over board, to tr and convince everyone to lynch CJ. This guy not even working as hard as me but suddenly hit me with a guilty because my antics is over the line? at least I investigated and it turned out scum. By the way where is my back up if I was scum? Unless I must maybe the only scum in the game. Do you truly believe that? There is a big difference between hard work and trying to cover your tracks. You have failed to do both - your hard work is nothing more than rambling. You are not town but you are not a cop either. You tried to murder someone last night and lucky for us--it backfired. You are grasping at straws at this point--trying to throw everyone against the wall and hoping something sticks. You have named 3/4's of the players as scum. It doesn't work that way. You're guilty and you know it and now that I've exposed you for the scum you are, you're going in spin mode. I'm absolutely confident that my information is correct. I wouldn't stick my neck on the line and accuse just anyone without having known something--that's not how I play. |
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 9:42:58 GMT -4
lol okay. |
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 10:27:51 GMT -4
People smarten up! You can see my hard work, maybe even going over board, to tr and convince everyone to lynch CJ. This guy not even working as hard as me but suddenly hit me with a guilty because my antics is over the line? at least I investigated and it turned out scum. By the way where is my back up if I was scum? Unless I must maybe the only scum in the game. Do you truly believe that? There is a big difference between hard work and trying to cover your tracks. You have failed to do both - your hard work is nothing more than rambling. You are not town but you are not a cop either. You tried to murder someone last night and lucky for us--it backfired. You are grasping at straws at this point--trying to throw everyone against the wall and hoping something sticks. You have named 3/4's of the players as scum. It doesn't work that way. You're guilty and you know it and now that I've exposed you for the scum you are, you're going in spin mode. I'm absolutely confident that my information is correct. I wouldn't stick my neck on the line and accuse just anyone without having known something--that's not how I play. Okay I truly tried to stay quiet on your comment it's eating a hole inside of me and this is absolutely no way shape or form defending myself, my vote still stands and I truly hope everybody will join in and vote for me. You say you expose me? And I am going into spin mode. You are so bad at telling the truth (maybe you're a better liar) no wonder you couldn't defend yourself in the last game. And I didn't even vote for you. Because please tell me where I went into spin mode after you 'expose' me? To tell you the truth I am not playing the game any different since I started this one. So please explain how you made me go into spin mode all of a sudden? So I tried to murder someone last night, it didn't work, in your words it backfired. You're so confident, that I am the scum. Although just like what you say about me you have no evidence and you're just rambling and blowing hot air. So tell me who are you to say how things work and don't work? huh? I'm new, I'm playing the game differently to a point, where town people, insane people, scum people and everybody else have never seen before and it bothers them. Change, could be a scary things. When change happens in the business world, Stock Markets drop, but as the get use to it, it goes up. so tell me Rebel, who the hell are you to say how the game is played or work? You're so blinded by your arrogance (and I am arrogant, but you beat me so easily) you clam you will not stick your head out and accuse just anyone like that and you know what? If you're a townie, you don't even realize you are doing just that. I'm interested to know what your excuse will be when I turn up to be everything you're claiming I'm not. You'll probably say I had it coming, you know something to cover yourself up, make yourself look innocent. Quite frankly that's how the game is originally played. Until a few innocents is screwed and eliminated everybody is a Townie. Well I'm new, I'm changing how you people is hooked at playing this game. ***Again....Jury (Towns People) please do not take what I just stated into account (if I could have pmed Rebel, I would have done just that and not let you see and read what I just said, until my last 3 sentences), until you Lynch me and find out the truth. Please keep an close eye on the names I mentioned earlier. I'm not 100% sure about Rebel, but I am sure about CJ, but you have time to eliminate me and see the truth for your own self. I understand taking out a cop will be devastating to the town people, but you'll still have majority to vote the right people (scums) out.*** Dear Mod, hope you like how I kept your game so extremely active and interesting. |
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 10:34:49 GMT -4
Take it into account unless I am insane that is. I don't know, if I am and the role of a insane person is to receive and give false information please ignore everything I've said about CJ Gates.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Jul 22, 2011 11:02:00 GMT -4
Okay I truly tried to stay quiet on your comment it's eating a hole inside of me and this is absolutely no way shape or form defending myself, my vote still stands and I truly hope everybody will join in and vote for me. You say your response is in no way a defense of yourself but you spend the next few paragraphs defending yourself? I'm pretty sure that adding random people to your scum list for no apparent reason is spin mode. I got information during the night which confirmed your scumminess -- conveniently enough I ended up on your scum list within hours and you are spinning your tires trying to convince the rest of the town that you're innocent. Not my words, the truth. You tried to murder someone last night and they came out alive. That's the definition of something backfiring, yes? I have all the information I need - and will be proved correct when you're revealed as scum. You have been running your mouth, post after post, and have lost all credibility, in my opinion. Meanwhile, I've done everything I said I was going to do. I said I wasn't going to cast a vote during the first day until someone came forward with incriminating information and I didn't. Now that I have information that I consider to be correct, I've cast my vote. You're not scaring anyone with your gameplay. If anything you're making them uneasy with your constant bickering. You can play the game however you would like but it's obvious to anyone paying attention that your over the top antics prove that you're scum. It's not arrogance to have tangible evidence that you are scum. I've already proven that I'm not interested in making accusations for no reason. You on the other hand have thrown several names out there with no backing. At this point, I think you realize that you have made a huge target of yourself and if you cast a wide enough net than you will take the heat off. Wait, what? You don't want anyone else to read your response to my accusations?You have everything to hide and I still believe that now that the truth is out you're running in circles; trying to get ahold of anything that might help you last another night so you can take out another town person. I've stuck my neck out and I'm willing to accept the blame if I'm wrong. However, I'm absolutely positive based upon the intel that was given to me that Hart is scum. Dear Mod, hope you like how I kept your game so extremely active and interesting. |
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Post by Kurt on Jul 22, 2011 11:31:53 GMT -4
Well that was an interesting few pages, ha.
I'm incredibly torn on SH being scum. I mean, he's definitely the most active player in the game, but I think at this point, if he was scum, he'd definitely be shutting up right about now (even though he's been pledging to). He was the first player to post after the night ended, so why put his own neck out like that if his own kill failed?
But him voting himself just sends all sorts of weird messages to me. If he is scum, this is just drawing more and more attention to himself while other scum just hide in plain sight, possibly distancing themselves. I also still don't like that JD, who I voted for in the first day, has no activity yet.
Is it possible SH is a Jester/Jester variation? Voting yourself just screams that to me. I know the insane cop theory is out there, just wanted to add what's been on my mind. I'm leaning towards believing Rebel about investigating, as I don't think he would stick his neck out there without having something. That throws out the Jester theory, if so.
I'm not gonna vote yet, probably tomorrow. I need to re-read that three or so pages after night one. I'll make my decision on SH then.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 12:11:34 GMT -4
you Rebel is making yourself look more and more guilty. My response was to you on a more personal level. i don't want people to read it because I didn't want to people to say hmmm okay I'm confuse I'm no going to vote for him (SH).
Even now I pretty much give myself up, voted for myself, you're desperately tearing everything I say apart piece by piece, even my out of character mention to the mod. You know I did pm the mod of the game that same sentence during my night investigation. Makes me soooo scum, I'm trying to hide my identity from the mod. See how so stupid you sound now attacking me for what? Nothing!
I'm asking people to vote for me and even then you are not happy. you'll never be happy, until I'm gone because you know damn well I'm a scum. But I'm not going to point fingers at you now.
So please go ahead and continue to tear through everything I say. Turn it up side down, you're such a master at doing that. I hope at one point in this game you actually lynch a damn scum. Because when I'm revealed as Town Cop, you're not going to say Yeah I Lynched a Scum. I was the first person to vote for a scum. You're making a future fool of yourself I you have no freaking clue, unless you really are a scum. But I'm not sure that you're a scum. You're sure I am. So what's the big fuss? Just tell people (like I've been telling people) to vote me off. Like that we can all see the truth, move on and you for once can shut up and be humbled.
What's wrong with voting for myself? You don't like it? You have a problem that I am Lynching myself? Is it ruining the plan of the scums?
Ladies and gentlemen, Please vote for me and you'll find out the truth. If Rebel have such a problem with I requesting you all to vote for me and I voting for myself, then he should have no problem taking his vote off me. But personally, I don't want him to unvote me. I need 7 votes on me to prove I'm right and Rebel and CJ is wrong.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 12:15:33 GMT -4
correction: I'm asking people to vote for me and even then you are not happy. you'll never be happy, until I'm gone because you know damn well I'm *not* a scum. But I'm not going to point fingers at you now.
I guess all my little missed words and letters and spelling mistakes, correction posts, makes me a scum too right Rebel?
since you're attacking absolutely everything I say. Why don't you attack my correction posts too? Will only make you stronger.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 12:21:32 GMT -4
by the making a promise by not casting a vote on the first day does not clear your name from being a scum? What you think people are that stupid? or are you that stupid?
So you have information please share it with us?
Oh wait! Do so after I am eliminated.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 12:24:35 GMT -4
because all you can say is that Stephan Hart is scum. Stephan hart sounds like scum. Stephan Hart looks like scum. Stephan Hart smells like scum. Stephan Hart's activity and posts is proof he is scum. I'm sorry I didn't know being active in this game automatically makes people a scum.
There should be a rule on that by the way. *sarcasm* probably too smart to realize that.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 12:27:59 GMT -4
And you know what I am going to continue posting until I am gone. Cause some how in some people's book like Rebel, the more you most, the more you are scum.
So this is even more evidence why Lester should unvote and vote for Stephan and everybody else in the game should follow.....follow Rebel's word. Believe in him! But when I am done, I know his credibility will be damage. I may be an insane, I don't know. But my job is a Town Cop. Not some scum. remember that when I am revealed.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 12:33:59 GMT -4
Is all my posting enough evidence for you Rebel?
I'm helping you're credibility right? With all these posts. i'm in spin mode as you call it.
You see Rebel. With all the posts and requests and actually admitting that CJ may actually be correct the Insane role, as I have little knowledge of how that is done and he's a more experience player than me. One thing I will not falsely admit is that I am scum. And that is burning a massive hole in you. Probably why you go on a rampage on all my posts. Even after I voted for my self and stepped up to the plate for Lynching. You know why I'm not going to admit it? Because it's wrong. I'm not scum. But if it takes elimination from this game to prove just that so be it. But you're not going to get me to admit to something I'm not.
eat your heart out.
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 22, 2011 12:41:57 GMT -4
Okay, for fuck sakes people...
After reading up on all these new posts this is where I'm at. I still do not believe SH is scum. Kurt Noble brought up the fact he maybe a jester and thus wins once he is lynched but I really think SH is just going batshit insane trying to prove he's telling the truth by voting for himself. I also do believe CJ Gates may be telling the truth as well. This is BASTARD mafia. This game is probably filled with BASTARD type roles; and Branden Harvey has had a hard on for Insane cops. Every game, he's talking about it. I have no doubt that it's most likely, SH is an insane cop and thus drew CJ has guilty right off the bat.
I would honestly like to know WHY Hart even investigated CJ Gates to begin with. Sally, at that point would be a far better target to investigate.
Regardless, there's no way there's four scums in this game. Three at most. And there is no way SH knows there's four because it's impossible to know unless you're scum yourself.
So, where am I at right now? I believe either Johnny Rebel or Sally Talfourd are scum. Maybe even both of them.
Johnny Rebel says he's 100% sure he saw Stephan Heart try to kill someone last night which is very odd considering SH has claimed cop. Also, odd how Blade tried a similar move on Johnny Rebel himself, LAST game. What's most telling, is that despite claiming he KNOWS SH tried to night kill someone, he doesn't even vote for Stephan Hart.
I smell BS.
Secondly, you all might want to read Sally Talfourds scum tell post. I find it hard to believe the cool headed otherwise scum hunting Sally Talfourd breaks out into a name calling, with a childish posts riddled with insults when a target. Her game play just doesn't seem to be where it has been. Perhaps, it's because she's a scummer too.
With that said, there's no way I'll put her over Johnny Rebel unless the votes are there.
So, for fuck sakes guys. Let's figure something out. One of these two are the best targets.
Unvote: CJ Gates
Vote: Johnny Rebel
Also, just some gameplay advice. The doctor needs to protect SH as night if he doesn't get lynched right now. SH needs to investigate his own insanity. Though, this might be entirely pointless because I'm almost sure SH is an insane cop which would make CJ a townie.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 12:49:05 GMT -4
scum list update - SalTal, Ebirah, and CJ Gates.
Now if I a insane when I am revealed, please take focus off CJ. Bu if I am perfectly fine in my head focus on that scumbag.
Keep a keen eye on JC and more importantly Rebel.
In my book despite the back and fort between the two of us, like myself Rebel is sticking his neck out of the crowd to take me down. I respect that and knowing I am not scum, seeing he is sticking his neck out, I wouldn't label him as scum. However don't take your eyes off this guy. he could very well be insane, who knows. But then he'll probably know that? Unless he's a cop and investigated me and found out I'm a cop and insane, but does not want to reveal he is a cop. Just keep an eye on him that's all.
Now people please vote for SH and get this argument as to who scum and who's town. who's insane and who's sane. over with for a time being.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 12:57:45 GMT -4
If I survive which I hope I don't, I'll investigate myself. i did not even know investigating was possible. And would think that if I as insane, I would be told so. But I guess I'm wrong about that. Hey I'm a rookie, this is only my second game what do you expect, I know everything about the roles? hell I didn't even know how to investigate, so I asked how and attached CJ name to the question and I got GUILTY in return. if I'm insane, then CJ is Town.
why I voted for CJ. Well I was so sure 100% sure that SalTal was scum. And I was going to investigate her. But then I stop and think. Why waste a night of investigation on someone I a 100% sure that is scum. While I can focus on somebody that I am not 100% sure. So I help raise my suspicion % on CJ by investigating him.
Plus if I am insane, then would it have made a difference if I investigated SalTal? I don't think so, but please let me know if I am wrong about that.
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 22, 2011 12:57:50 GMT -4
I don't even know any more. Branden probably added tons of fucked up roles in this game to watch us all scramble amongst ourselves. However, I have a problem with your scum list. You don't know Ebriah is scum. The dude has barely even done anything. By the end of this game, you're going to have like ten other names including jesus christ on that list. Give it up, lol.
I still find J-rebs actions very odd. Nothing speaks louder then a vote and despite claiming to know what happened last night, he doesn't even vote for you. Odd how his post only comes once he see's the potential of the lynch coming to your backyard, SH. My guess is, either he's insane or he's lying, and it would make sense to lie about a role claim because he come up with tons of excuses as to why his information was incorrect in a BASTARD mafia game.
Also, SH. Try to contain your posts one at a time. I know you're into the game but for fuck sakes, dude. Breathe.
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 22, 2011 12:59:29 GMT -4
EWOP
The difference would be that if Sally Talfourd was scum and you investigated her as an insane cop; she would have came up town. Also, you aren't told if you're insane or not. Again, if you're a cop, I'm willing to bet my balls your insane-- Branden Harvey, loves insane cops. He brings them up, EVERY, SINGLE, GAME.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Jul 22, 2011 13:03:25 GMT -4
So basically I'm scum and SalTal and Gates are scum because we questionned you already questionable gameplay in this game? Please. Anytime anybody questions you your reaction is to post 2 or 3 times in a row about it and act like you're a schizophrenic. However I'm not voting for Hart because he's either an insane or a paranoid cop. That much is obvious so anybody voting for Hart right now is a fool.
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 22, 2011 13:04:03 GMT -4
EWOP
FUCKING EPIC FUCKING FAIL.
He did vote for you. Well, there's go my fucking theory. TOO many goddamn posts to read in this game, I actually missed one.
unvote: Johnny Rebel
Remind me to never post in mafia almost first thing in the morning. I'm going to go sit in the corner now, LOL
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 13:05:22 GMT -4
I just thought of something.
If Rebel is scum, he probably knows that I am insane, because I have wrong information on CJ and CJ is not scum like him.
So here how he plays the game. He sticks his neck out and claim I am scum (of course he's not going to say I am insane, how could he possibly know? unless he's scum, he knows CJ is not scum and by seeing how I come out attacking CJ in the second round he figures I am insane).
So while getting rid of me and if I show up Insane. It makes him look good even if I do not show up as scum. fact is he helped got raid of a shady character. and a insane cop I guess, has no sides. So it's important to get rid of the insane cop.
Am I insane? I have no clue.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 13:06:49 GMT -4
Lol @ Lester. read my recent post. I think I finally break the jigsaw puzzle but I could be wrong.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 13:44:33 GMT -4
Insane cop is more confusing I thought. So basically he's actually a townie that gets wrong information. Just read Lester's post that jhe partially explained to me what a insane cop is. Here I thought insane cop was neither mafia or town.
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Post by jc on Jul 22, 2011 14:03:49 GMT -4
Insane Cop is a cop that gets the opposite of what the person actually is. i.e. You got a guilty on CJ Gates but he may actually be town. The fact that you did not check yourself to find out if you yourself were guilty is what has us in this predicament. Along with your insistence that anyone that opposes your take on the game is scum. I can assure you I am town, but until i am investigated and someone can clear me my word means absolutely nothing in these games.
Just like your word means nothing. It has nothing to do with you personally, but there is a good chance you may have led a lynch on a member of the town because you don't have the right information.
Now, as far as people getting nervous about your style of play... I think that honorable mention in the last game may have actually boosted your ego a little more than it should have. It was a shout out about how good you did in your first game, and already you're talking about getting an MVP when you don't even know how to use your role.
What you need to do is relax and not get ahead of yourself trying to become the next mafia God.
Now, do yourself a favor and investigate yourself if you make it through the day phase and figure out your sanity, because investigating anyone but yourself is just going to hurt us and we don't need that. We need to make sure if we're following a cop that he is in fact giving us the right information, or you're just going to end up doing more harm than good.
Of course, in order for you to survive the day we need to know if Rebel is lying or just has bad information like you may have.
Rebel, did you see Hart target someone or did you see someone get targeted by Hart?
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Post by jc on Jul 22, 2011 14:05:50 GMT -4
Oh, and for the record, roles are drawn randomly. Mods don't just pick and choose who they want to give a role to, and this being a bastard modded game means that anything can happen and may.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 22, 2011 14:14:23 GMT -4
Well i'll investigate myself and even if I come up clean. you know what? people will still try and say I am a liar. So yeah who cares at this point huh?
Secondly not my fault I didn't investigate myself. Rookies should be explained of the ins and outs of roles. Not given a complicated one and left in the wilderness to see if they can actually figure out they was given a secret role. If I knew that I could investigate myself and know all the craziness of the Insane role, I would have investigate myself first thing. But I didn't!
And yes I'm confident, arrogant and look highly at myself. I love me lol big deal. lol
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 22, 2011 15:12:47 GMT -4
I disagree with investigating yourself.
You are much better off investigating someone you personally believe to be an townie. From there, if they turn up mafia like CJ--then it's safe to assume you're insane. Considering, it is highly more likely that you are insane, we should be looking to work backwards now. The chances that the first two people you investigate turn up to be mafia, is enough.
However, if there is a roleblocker in this game this is entirely pointless. They're going to stifle your move, short of outright killing you.
We need a lynch. After thinking about things, I'm back to being on J-Rebs tail. At this point, you either believe SH or Rebel and I believe SH. Johnny Rebel is going to look for an excuse for why he's claimed SH was a scum, when he turns up town.
There's no such thing as an insane watcher unless I'm mistaken, so claiming SH killed someone during the night when he's clearly a cop (insane probably) is a bunch of bullshit.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Jul 22, 2011 15:25:17 GMT -4
The only thing I know is that Hart is guilty of being scum. At this point I don't see how anyone can see otherwise. I understand trying to be as active as possible to avoid looking like scum but his replies have been random and often, incoherent.
His obvious cries for attention at the very beginning of the game raised red scum flags and so I did. If anyone is going to take Hart's word over mine at this point, I'd like to investigate your sanity. All I can report on is information I've received and that's what I'm going to do. Lynching Hart at this point gives us the most information. If he's truly guilty, we've eliminated scum and can move on to the next guilty party and I'll be vindicated. If he's not scum an turns up my information was bad, I'm willing to take the fall for it but I'm almost 100% positive that's not the case.
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 22, 2011 15:29:31 GMT -4
Or we could lynch you and see if you're telling the truth about having any type of investigative role, like you've hinted?
We know more about SH then you. SH has claimed cop. I'm not about to vote for the ''potential'' Town cop, for a wait and see approach afterwards.
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