Branden Harvey's a Bastard Mafia Game Thread

[SalTal]

Is it six alive/four to lynch at the moment?

Anyway, Lester, tell me what you piece together because if you knew that Blade was scum, you're just as likely to be able to figure out who the next ones we should go after are.

[President Jeff]

I still think JC is scum and I wouldn't be surprised if Ebriah was scum as well

I'm still voting JC

Vote: JC

[brandenharvey]

Aug 1, 2011 3:55:45 GMT -4 SalTal said:

Is it six alive/four to lynch at the moment?

Thank you, Sally. I knew I had forgotten something. I just couldn't figure out what.

It's been updated.

[jc]

Hey, Lester, taking into account TMarv's information of you being with the bodies of deceased the night after they were lynched, I'm under the assumption that you could very well be a forensic scientist and can see how many scum were in on each lynch. I could be wrong, but that is the only real reason i can put you and a dead body together after they were lynched.

If that's the case, with the numbers down can you tell me how many were on each lynch. Considering we've only lynched townies to this point, we should be able to get a good number as to how many are left. Also, we can narrow down who they could be because of who was on each lynch.

Now, I can't speak for Ebirah, but the fact that I haven't brought anything to the table action wise shouldn't mark me as scum. I've asked questions to get more knowledge of the characters and what they've been doing in this game, but for the most part my questions have gone unanswered. The answers I have recieved still didn't prove the guilt of one person more than another either, so yeah I haven't been voting on any lynches. thing is, people were dropping hints at what role they may have, and it was overlooked and sometimes ignored.

We're down to six people now and with four to lynch. With the size of this game, I'm guessing there was three scum. if that's true then the fact that we have one down means there are probably two left.

At this point, mislynching me is going to cost us this game. Drops the numbers down to five, then after a night kill it would be four and scum has the majority. the fact that some people don't care and just want to get to night phase troubles me, as the wrong lynch here costs us the game, but it is on you all as i don't know who the scum are and your guess is as good as mine.

[Level-Two]

First of all, there is 100% two scums left in this game. I know this because there is one hitman and scum jailkeeper/kidnapper, or something that shut me up last day phase.

When it comes down to JC and Ebriah, I'm leaning towards Ebriah being a scummer. I think this is a case of lynch one, then the other—and we would have found our scum before it's all said and done.

As far as JC goes, his lack of voting in general is a cause for suspicion but the way he's defended himself has come off half decent. Ebriah on the other hand has simply sat back and moderated this game. He isn't eager to lynch anyone, ever. Throwing in his two sense that's perceived to be helpful to the town here and there but never actively trying to find scum. With many of us more out spoken and thus bigger targets, he's never needed to say much even when Hart called him out on being scum earlier in the game.

When I look at who betweeen the two would want to kidnap me/shut me up and kill T-Marv on the same night, I'm kinda edging my bets towards JC. I cleared T-marv as town watcher/tracker and in turn T-Marv cleared me. JC asked T-Marv the day before if his watcher role showed me targetting players who were killed in lynches after they were dead. T-Marv answered yes, JC said nothing more.

The next night, T-Marv is dead and I'm kidnapped. The next day, I'm sure I would have been killed by Godfather Blade but he was inactive.

Funny how I wasn't kidnapped when earlier on T-Marv hinted that I was targetting dead players and it made me look like I was guilty?

Of course, Ebriah could have realized this looking from the outside in and played off of it. I just find it odd how JC was the ONLY one who took interest in hearing about my role and I was netrualized once I was pretty much cleared as scum.

JC; I'm not a forensic Scientist. I've explained my roll the best I possibly can. Every night T-marv tracked me I would have been shown to target dead players. It's a bastard role. I don't know if it exists or branden made it up. What type of person visits and enjoys dead bodies? Put two and two together. My role isn't rocket science here.

Sally; This is the best insight I can provide as far as who's scum. I knew Blade was scum because of him just dropping votes on people, slipping under the radar while we all fought. He offered zero to the game.

Last day phase, I didn't realize I had been kidnapped by scum and I actually posted a post about who obviously isn't scum (sally) and who I thought was scum and why (blade). It was up for about 10-15 mins before I realized I was kidnapped and I deleted the post. Ebriah was online, not sure if he saw it or not.

[Michael Jennings]

So automatically I'm a suspect because I'm not saying much? Did you ever stop to think that there might be a PR's in a bastard game? The one thing I will say is that I have no night action but a post restriction that limits how much I can post in a day phase hence the lack of activity which is normally not my style. For some reason I think L1 is hinting at being either a coroner or a sensor. Also L1 brought up something interesting. Has anyone else been kidnapped in the game?

[Level-Two]

I'm not talking about how OFTEN you post. I'm saying, what you do decide to post offers absolutely nothing to the game. You're playing a town moderator role where you sit back and offer your two sense here and there to appear to be a townie helping out the town; but you've never actively sought scum or even voted. T- Marv used this exact same strategy to coast through the first mafia game we had here and he was scum.

I'm not a corner and I'm not a sensor.

[jc]

Sounds like a necrphiliac(sp?) to me.

Honestly, I haven't voted for anyone because the last few lynches have been on townies and the people that were pretty vocal on those lynches are still alive and not even being considered suspect. If I had any proof I'd tell you who to go after, but right now all I have are the reads on people and they aren't very good.

I'm suspicious of Jeff because he has pretty much just shown up and said so and so has been quiet so I'm voting for them. Considering Rebel didn't have anything to say in his defense he may have been subject to the jailkeeper as well. I don't know for sure.

At the same time, though. Ebirah's defense of having a PR when no one else has had one is very suspect to me. How many posts are you allowed to make Ebirah?

Noble is the other person that has me a bit suspect... Especially after his attempt to allow people to defend themselves and when they didn't he posted his vote. Almost as if he knew they couldn't reply.

[Level-Two]

Ding, ding, ding! Thanks, JC.

At this point, I'm willing to settle for an Ebriah lynch. There isn't much that makes me think President Jeff is scum and there's even less to make me think Kurt Noble is as well. For someone who claims to have a daily post restriction role; the posts he does make are rather useless when scum hunting. Also, Branden Harvey was trying to make this an active game. Putting a post restriction role in the game as well as a kidnapper goes against trying to make this an active affair in already small game, lol.

[jc]

That's why i said i have no leg to stand on as far as saying who we should lynch. Ebirah's post restriction does seem fishy though... no pun intended. I'd like to know what his limit on posts supposedly is, because if he's going to make a deal about being limited to post considering he is normally a very active player, than i would think he would at least hit his limit, and somehow I doubt Harvey would limit him to two posts per day phase. Also, with a post restriction like that... why wouldn't he take advantage and post as much as he could in that one post?

[Kurt]

I'm going to agree that Ebirah has been suspicious in his posts, and that his posts have been rather uninformative, but something about JC's posts are really making me unsettled. Here's what I've got after some reading.

He mentions asking pertinent questions that went unanswered...but almost all of his questions HAVE been answered. He asked CJ how many scum he felt were in the game (answered), asked Hart is he would admit to being scum (answered), how Hart thought CJ was scum (answered, but I see his point here), asked Rebel about his role (not answered). And don't talk about us damning Rebel when you posted this:

"Who drew the most attention from Rebel last day phase and set the ball rolling for a JD lynch? That person and rebel need to be our focus."

And then didn't vote to keep yourself under the radar. Don't blame us for voting Rebel when he never gave us proper explanation about his info. You mentioned I voted "knowing people couldn't reply." I 've voted for JD, Rebel (which was justified to me based on the confusion) and you. They all talked on days I voted for them, so how could they not defend themselves? Better yet...you got enough votes to roleclaim, but still haven't dropped any hints on your role despite saying you sat back and watched others roles.

But this quote bothers me:

"Honestly, I haven't voted for anyone because the last few lynches have been on townies and the people that were pretty vocal on those lynches are still alive and not even being considered suspect. If I had any proof I'd tell you who to go after, but right now all I have are the reads on people and they aren't very good."

Something about that doesn't sit well with me. This late in the game, basically everyone is a suspect (minus Sally). I'm really suspicious of the fact that when it looked like the game was over, you didn't vote at all...and now that Blade is dead you're very active. We should have gotten your thoughts on the last day phase, not the day after Blade gets killed and it looked like the game was over. But you are being accused, so that covers some ground. I want to hear your reads, because not sharing them will hurt us.

But since your reasoning against me is that I don't give people a chance to vote for themselves, I'm not gonna vote for you yet until I see you post a bit more. It's either you or Ebirah it seems, but I'm leaning towards you.

I'll have an analysis of Ebirah up in the morning, so I can make my vote and get my thoughts out.

[Kurt]

One last thing. You are asking questions about his posts limit, which definitely backs up your point about asking questions, so I won't deny any of that. But he is the person opposite you on the proverbial chopping block it seems, so I won't ignore that either.

[jc]

Actually, Noble, no one has actually been cleared but Sally, and yet the only people anyone are looking at is me and Ebirah. Apart from you, who can actually back up your claim that you are town?

Same for L1, because I don't recall anyone ever saying yeah, he's for sure town. Our only real reason for saying L1 is town is because he claims to have been silenced last day phase. For all we know he could be making that up in order to make himself seem more town. Do you recall anyone else saying they've been silenced by scum? No, and yet everyone is quick to conclude that L1 must be telling the truth because he has seemed town throughout the entire game.

My point is, I have one goal in this game and that is for town to win. So yeah, I'd prefer not to get lynched because then that wouldn't happen as per Lester there are two scum left and my lynch and a nk by scum would put them even with town and therefore win them the game. So, yes, Noble I have kept a low profile, but that doesn't make me scum... That just makes me smart enough to know that following someone on a hunch isn't going to win us the game.

Right now there are six alive, and according to Lester two scum left. If we take Sally and Only off the board as possibly being targeted by scum... then that leaves Jeff, Ebirah, me, and you as possible scum.

Now, regardless of Lester's lack of scum vibes from Jeff, he pulled this exact thing in the last game and actually won as scum because of it. Does that make him scum... No, but I'm not tossing the idea out the window.

Then we have Ebirah and his supposed post restriction that must have already taken effect since he's suddenly gone quiet. For all we know, he's going to stay quiet now to further sell this PR so what that does do is leave me and you, Kurt...

I know I'm town, and one more vote can be placed on me and I still won't role claim because in all honesty I don't see the need to do it. Scum are given false claims all the time, so all claiming proves is that I indeed have a role. Which, since I'm in a game where people have roles, should be pretty obvious. Unfortunately, my role does not have a night action attached to it, so my only real importance here is a vote for the town.

Of course, you only vote to lynch townies, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise.

[SalTal]

JC or Ebirah seem like the most likely suspects so far, what with all these latest posts.

But I think that Jeff's swoop in and vote is a bit suspect. Then again, I've been pretty off this game!

[President Jeff]

I made by vote yesterday because I wasn't gonna be online until now. I still think JC is scum, but I'll unvote him for the time being.

Unvote: JC

So based on what everyone is saying.

Me='s Town
Sally ='s Town
JC ='s Town
Level 1 ='s town
Kurt ='s town
Ebirah ='s town

Someone is lying.

Like I said, I still think JC is scum, Ebirah is town. But you know what, this game has been so fucked up, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Sally was scum somehow.



So based on what everyone is saying,

[Kurt]

Here's my thoughts on Ebirah after going through his posts:

- He was for the day one lynch (only had a joke vote though).
- Leaned towards voting for Hart because of his contradicting nature, but didn't.
- More Hart suspicion.
- Turns out to not vote for Hart because he believes the insane cop theory. (Ha, seriously, Hart takes up like half the posts in this game!)
- Wanted to here from Rebel before voting for him.
- JD Vote
- More wanting to hear from Rebel.
- Believing Sally to be bulletproof
- Pointing towards Jeff of JC.
- Post cap claim, and questioning the kidnapping idea.

There's a few things that stick out in this list. He's obviously spent a good portion of the game pointing fingers at others, but really hasn't voted much minus. The only person, if my count was right, that's helped lynch was JD. I don't like that he's attempted to help slide things along without much of a voting presence.

His post count theory has some merit, but not enough with saying the number. But I'm curious as to the number he needs to say to validate that theory. If he doesn't hit the exact number, he gets my vote. I won't say it yet because he might just copy it, but I'll reveal it after.

He's definitely got a weird vibe about him, and honestly, he could be the other scum...but JC's conflicting reasoning is going to give him my vote for this day phase, unless Ebirah's post theory comes up with the wrong number.

JC says he's he's been playing the game, mainly sitting back and asking unanswered questions (most got answered) about people's roles, but won't reveal his own role even when in a position to roleclaim...but he's supposedly played the game to find others roles. He claims he's here to vote on the town's side, but wouldn't even vote on what appeared to be the final day. He didn't share any of these thoughts, just tried to protect himself, which is reasonable...but why not try to at least do something on the thought to be final day?

He's got a blanket theory that he won't vote based off a hunch...but with no night skill that we know of, that's all he and the rest of us can do.

But this line seals it for me:

"Unfortunately, my role does not have a night action attached to it, so my only real importance here is a vote for the town."

How's that been working out for you? You still haven't voted, unvoted, or whatever. If your only real importance is to vote for the town, and you didn't when things looked over...and now are an advocate for the town, pointing fingers in all directions, then to me that importance is a lie. I understand you waiting for Ebirah before voting him, but it doesn't change the rest of the game.

I also like that you damn me for lynching townies...but not Jeff of L1, since we've all voted similarly with reasoning in our posts. At least we tried based on our reasoning, not sat around and push the blame afterwards.

Blade got modkilled, and the moment he did, you rushed in to muddle the waters after not voting the whole game. He's been too vague about everything, stating who he believes is scum and then saying his reads aren't very good. There's too many contradictions for me to ignore. I'm voting for you.

Vote: JC

[Level-Two]

Very interesting. Nice post trying to widen everyone's target, JC. I'm surprised you even gave Sally Talfourd credit for being a townie. I don't know how obvious the writing on the wall can be that I am townie and this is probably my last day alive. For anyone paying attention; working backwards on T-marv's watcher role clears me. The fact that you've specifically sat here and took the most interest about me and my role and STILL haven't come to this conclusion makes me lean further your way when it comes to who's scum and who's not.

And then hinting that I might be making up being kidnapped last day phase? Really dude? Kidnapping is a quite a powerful role. It's entirely possible that it can only be used once. I couldn't talk nor could I vote. I think it would put town at a severe disadvantage if someone could be kidnapped every day phase.

Also, I don't need to ''fake'' being kidnapped to make me look more like town. Why would I do that when both Sally and Jeff put two and two together and ruled me out as scum after the night phase? Raising these stupid questions makes me all the more suspicious of you JC; and that you KNOW there's a kidnapper in this game and exactly who it is.

If you can't understand why you and ebriah are better targets then anyone else in this game at this point, then tell me and I'll vote to lynch because you're useless.

Guys, we need to lynch one of these two so let's figure which one please. If we wait another day, neither JC or Ebriah are going to die at night whether or not they're scum and good luck trying to piece together the final vote in a lynch to or die situation with these guys in the game at that point because they refuse to pull the trigger at all times.

[Level-Two]

EWOP

I just read back day one. Ebriah made FIVE posts on day one. So, at the very least his ''post restriction'' that may or may not exist has a limit of five posts.

So, let's hear you. For now.

Vote: JC

[Michael Jennings]

Right now anybody who thinks L1 or Sally is scum is seriously grasping at straws. My post restriction is five but they have to be no more than 100 words post as well which limits my posts. I believe right now after reading through all of this that JC is most likely scum. The main reasoning fpr why I am voting for JC is the mere fact he thinks L1 made up the kidnapping which is highly suspicious. NO WAY anybody would make that up.

Vote: JC

[President Jeff]

Well, heres hoping for a Lynch

Vote: JC

[Level-Two]

*Crosses fingers*

PLEASE LET HIM BE SCUM! I want to win for once, lol.

[jc]

And we just lost this game. Nice one.

Notice I still didn't post a vote, anyone?

I have never placed a vote because I never felt those people were scum, and turns out they weren't. Did I know if they were town... No, but I saw the same people voting them and there seemed to be a pattern.

Noble, I wasn't trying to find out people's specific roles... I was trying to get reads on them and I was failing badly because the roles that could have helped us did nothing but mess up. I'm pretty sure Rebel checked himself night one and got back an innocent, so when Hart came out and claimed cop he made up the story about Hart because he didn't want to out himself as cop. No one paid any attention to that, even when he backed off of Hart when it came out he could have been insane. That is what I am talking about when I say pay attention to the game.

And role claiming makes this game unfun, because of the reasons I gave. I mean, what's the point in playing a game if everyone is going to come out and claim a town role. It still doesn't clear anyone since scum have safe claims. How would you know if I was lying or not if I revealed my role? You wouldn't, and I would be lynched anyway. Like I have been.

It was fun, and I hope we somehow still pull this out, but I doubt it.

[jc]

Pretty sure, Ebirah and Jeff are your scum though. Especially how they jumped in on the lynch as soon as two votes were up against me and it wasn't one of them.

[brandenharvey]

THAT'S A LYNCH!!!

The town surrounds JC. They string him up. As his neck breaks, the rope tightens and ripd his head and spine from the rest of his body. It turns out the only lynch he couldn't prevent was his own.

DEAD - JC - Town Lynch Preventor

Night begins now. Night ends at 10:00 pm Wednsday or when I receive all night actions.

[brandenharvey]

Night is over.

The town wakes up in the morning. They find a man dead, with a bullet in the back of his head and his junk shoved in the body of JC.

DEAD - Lester "L1" Only - Town Necrophiliac

MAFIA WINS!!!!

JC WINS!!!

Fallout Thread upcoming.