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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 29, 2011 8:27:53 GMT -4
It might not be a roleblocker than could explain last night.
There are only roles that could explain it too, you guys.
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 29, 2011 8:35:24 GMT -4
It might not be a roleblocker than could explain last night. There are only roles that could explain it too, you guys. Like what? |
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 29, 2011 8:56:03 GMT -4
bus driver, doctor, tinker, tailor, soldier, spy.
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 29, 2011 9:12:19 GMT -4
Actually not bus driver, unless it was some kind of magical series of events.
Doctors though, certainly.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 29, 2011 9:26:06 GMT -4
I want to go back to the beginning of day 2 for a second.
We started the game with 11 players right? So it was 11 alive, 6 votes to lynch
After we learn that Sally was killed, it became
9 alive, 5 votes to lynch and Branden made it clear that this wasn't a mistake
Kaji gets Lynched and now we're still at 9 alive, 5 to lynch
Did someone get kidnapped on Night 1 that made it 9 alive, 5 to lynch? Someone must have some info with their roles to clear this up
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 29, 2011 9:29:22 GMT -4
Someone who voted could be a double voter.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 29, 2011 9:39:38 GMT -4
That wouldn't change the number of people who are alive though. We had 11, killed 1 person and then there we're 9 left alive. We killed 1 more and we still have 9 alive.
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 29, 2011 9:54:48 GMT -4
Sorry, that didn't sink in the first time.
I've seen a role in mafia before that can "jail" them. They can't post while they're jailed, but they can't be night killed. Sort of like a doctor but the person can't post for the day.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 29, 2011 9:56:27 GMT -4
Thats what I'm thinking, which is why if someone got kidnapped, they should come out and tell us
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 29, 2011 10:53:08 GMT -4
yeah, because when Pence said he was the doctor last game, he wasn't killed off by the Mafia or anything. What is the plus side to roleclaiming or even hinting when everyone knows that puts a target on their backs? I don't think us townies want to lose everyone with a role.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 29, 2011 10:57:16 GMT -4
From night 1, we know some people visited others. If one of those people we're kidnapped, we can go look to see who visited them, then we'd more than likely have our next scum. This is of course assuming there is a kidnapping role in the game
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 29, 2011 11:01:51 GMT -4
maybe it only refers to vote count, not kidnapping.
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 29, 2011 11:04:12 GMT -4
Yeah but my argument was kidnapping is not always a scum role, it can be a doctor-like protection role.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 29, 2011 13:24:25 GMT -4
People who are kidnapped can't talk for that day phase if I'm not mistaken. However it also could just be a typo too. I want to see the next vote count to see what it says.
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 29, 2011 14:29:06 GMT -4
It's not a typo. No one died last night and we are down to 8 alive, according to Branden's posting starting the day. Only 8 of us count right now, even though there are 9 of us.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 29, 2011 14:44:10 GMT -4
I want to go back to the beginning of day 2 for a second. We started the game with 11 players right? So it was 11 alive, 6 votes to lynch After we learn that Sally was killed, it became 9 alive, 5 votes to lynch and Branden made it clear that this wasn't a mistake Kaji gets Lynched and now we're still at 9 alive, 5 to lynch Did someone get kidnapped on Night 1 that made it 9 alive, 5 to lynch? Someone must have some info with their roles to clear this up Ha, I asked this the second day 2 started and no one paid attention to it! After going through the posts and seeing who has been around, we still have 9 alive, but the count is 8...but the only person that hasn't posted today is Havok. If he does, that should make the number of active people 9...so I'm confused. Can someone do a recount to make sure I'm not crazy? If someone was kidnapped day 2 and didn't post, you need to say something now to help clear this mess up. We can cross reference this with the info we got from the lamp. But, speaking of Havok, I have some information on him. After Day 1, I got a "post it note" that I wasn't sure what to make of. I can't quote it because it's against the rules, but the note basically thanked me for my nice comments, but also hoped that I wasn't scum. I didn't bring it up day 2 because it went so quickly, and because I didn't understand the context of it. But Havok visited me Night 1, where I got the note. I also had this post Day 1... I don't want to just randomly vote anyone. In my first game, I went after Kurt hardcore, and ended up being wrong. This time, I'm just sitting back and watching for a bit. Honestly bud, the best thing you can do is point out something you see, even if it turns out to be totally wrong. I was hella wrong last game in my assessments...but stepping on toes pointing at people at least shows a less-than-passive attitude that some scum adopt. I'm not saying you should be crazily voting or anything like that, but if you see something we don't, let us know! And I think the inactivity is based on a few factors. Some people might still be confused on their roles and not wanting to post because of it (although that's unlikely). The most likely reason is just people are a bit winded after ONIH, and aren't posting as much. I'm going to try and avoid the long stretches of inactivity I was plagued with last game (although I won't be around like at all tomorrow). Do we have any thoughts on a day once lynch? I mean...we always talk about it, and it never happens. Could be a way to get a slow game into high gear. Any thoughts? This was the only time during day 1 that I had another direct interaction with another member...so putting that together with me being visited by Havok Night 1, Havok is the sticky note! Honestly? Sounds like a town role. Scum already can talk at night, so giving them the ability to talk to town at night seems odd. If anyone else got a night 2 stickynote, please let us know...and Havok can confirm this once he posts. I think this clears Havok as town, unless someone has opposing information. |
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Post by Reaver on Oct 29, 2011 16:27:23 GMT -4
kurt i like how u think, and based on this logic....id like to be the person to say that ur cleared in my book. so that would make 2 townies so far....... Well first of all, If anyone IS a roleblocker and roleblocked someone last night, YOU NEED TO COME CLEAN. You probably roleblocked whoever did the kill and we can take out another mafia man right now. Also, I would like to know what Knuckles & Atkins were doing visiting me at night on day one. I'm not looking for any type of role... just your input on where you think I stand in this game because I know you two were doing SOMETHING involving me based on those results... and I am already suspicious of atkins. And Kurt Noble has big red flag over his name and I think he's who we should be looking at for waving his hands trying to save the dear life of Kaji; while planting seeds that anyone who was voting for him was probably just trying to get him killed before any more information came out. Which in reality, doesn't make any sense. Logically, you ask yourself... why would noble go against the grain to risk looking guilty for defending his scum buddy who was just about GUARANTEED to get lynched? Reverse psychology for 300$'s, Bob! if u read back at what has been said and done, i believe L-O has had it in for u. if my logic is correct, that would make him scum. he mentioned when me and another went to visit him on nite 1, and we have YET to hear anything constructive from Atkins about any of these situations. im also keeping a close eye on JamesV cuz to me, he hasnt sounded too helpful nor has he had anything constructive to say other than egging people on. (maybe im wrong read for urselves) so to me, here is my list of potential scum... L-O JamesV Atkins (no particular order) it seems to me at least 1 of these 3 r scum. and we will see based on a nite action and whether me or noble gets whacked. if im wrong, i have absolutely no problem putting myself on the chopping block. |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 29, 2011 16:45:29 GMT -4
I was thinking Noble, however after reading what Knux has said, I'm not going to rule him out. He almost sounds irritated now, quick to jump on people aka: throwing me under the bus with "where's Havok". Some of you already know my role. I haven't came out and said it, but my night actions speak for themselves.
I do however understand what Knux is saying. I haven't been talking too much, but I have a life. Lol. I will excuse Knux, and stick with my gut on this one. For now...
Vote: Kurt Noble
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 29, 2011 16:47:08 GMT -4
I WILL NOT ROLE CLAIM... HOWEVER...
After reading what Kurt has said... For this point in time...
UN-Vote: Kurt Noble
Lol
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 29, 2011 18:22:20 GMT -4
I happen to have information about the counts. It's not someone missing, it means someone can't vote.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 29, 2011 18:59:55 GMT -4
I happen to have information about the counts. It's not someone missing, it means someone can't vote. I just find it odd that then it says "8 alive.' Maybe that's just me. And Havok...I'm not trying to throw anyone under the bus. Who have I jumped on? I didn't even pull out the defensive "well, L1 is scum because he thinks I might be scum" card, because reasoning like that is crap by itself. I didn't pull your name out to make you sound guilty, literally just to say that you hadn't posted, and once you had, we'd have 9 active players on this day, instead of the 8 count. In fact, I'm trying to clear you! I just find it weird that you said I jumped on you, but then once you'd actually "read what I said," you unvoted me...pay attention Havok! I still think you're town though, I just think your reasoning is wrong on this one...but I did tell you to point out things you saw earlier. Oh...and you got on my case about my activity last game, so no "I have a life" cards being thrown out.  |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 29, 2011 19:25:04 GMT -4
I wasn't talking about you throwing me under the buss, bud. I was talking about Knux.
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Post by brandenharvey on Oct 29, 2011 22:11:32 GMT -4
Dance, puppets, dance. Oh and start voting.  |
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 29, 2011 22:14:52 GMT -4
Our mod is a dick.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 29, 2011 23:09:11 GMT -4
I wasn't talking about you throwing me under the buss, bud. I was talking about Knux. how did i throw u under the bus? i first said wheres havok? i then said that since noble cleared u as town, i cleared him as town as well. why would scum come out n say ur town unless ur both scum and i believe neither of u r. so again i ask.....how did i throw u under the bus? |
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 30, 2011 0:47:57 GMT -4
Vote: Knuckles
After specifically asking him what he found on me (or what he was doing visiting me) he responds and completely avoids the question with a lame joke better saved for the OOC board. He doesn't come out and say, I'm guilty nor innocent... but just decides to offer ZERO insight.
I give him a pass maybe he just doesn't want to be nightkilled by giving information...
... and then he mentions my name as one of his three top suspects in this game. Umm, based on what? You visited me on night one and everyone saw it. If you're going to put my name out there; you better back it up with some actual meat not your bullshit theories that are based on your misunderstandings of what game we're playing here.
EDIT- Bolded vote.
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Post by brandenharvey on Oct 30, 2011 1:12:29 GMT -4
No editing posts
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 30, 2011 2:07:23 GMT -4
I have to agree with Level One on this one. Who knows, we could be wrong. But Knux, it seems as if you've gotten very defensive, very fast. Almost as if you're worried that the mafia is going to lose another member so quickly.
Since there's no roleclaiming allowed, I can't come out and say what I am, or who I am. But read Kurts post, and you'll find out some very accurate information.
As far as Kurt goes, I'm still not 100% sure about him. Sure, he's let the town know some good things about me, but is this a decoy? Is this his way of playing the good guy, but waiting to stab us in the back?
My gut told me Kurt, but now it's not. Well, it's not for the time being. Knux, I'm sorry.
Vote: Knuckles
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 30, 2011 3:05:50 GMT -4
I agree with everything that Level One stated. That's the same thing I noticed with Knuckles earlier in regards to one of his comments. Instead of responding with something concrete it's usually just a sarcastic barb or some sort of a comment unrelated to the game. I'm pretty certain Level One is town and I was torn on Noble but I'm leaning toward him being town too for the mere fact that he didn't get defensive when he had the heat on him. Knuckles on the other hand is doing the opposite and the defensiveness usually means something hit a little too close to home so that's what triggered the reaction. Gotta go with my gut. I've seen too many defensive scum players in these games and this is typical behavior of those types of players.
Vote: Knuckles
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Post by Reaver on Oct 30, 2011 7:30:47 GMT -4
notice that 2 of the 3 people i suspect didnt hesitate to vote me this time around. if ya read earlier posts, i specifically said i have no clue as to why u were visited, i didnt write it up but thats ok. u guys can feel free to lynch me all ya like, ull see its a mistake eventually anyways. just is so, if im NOT voted, ill certainly be killed by mafia during the next nite anyways.
also.....havok never answered my question, so how did i throw u under the bus hmmm? not once did i so i begin to question ur integrity town or not.
id like to think im fairly active in terms of the game and if i was really scum.....wouldnt i keep a lil more quieter? i dunno, do wat u guys gotta do and ull see im right eventually.....
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