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Post by Arcadia on Oct 30, 2011 9:48:32 GMT -4
Understanding that Branden writes the write-ups, he writes them based on night actions that get sent in. So it's hard to believe you don't know why you visited L1 when you would have had to send in a night action saying that you wanted to visit/investigate/whatever your possible role might be Level-One. Are you saying that you did NOT send in a night action on Day 1? That Branden just happened to throw you in their for the fuck of it? I find that doubtful.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 30, 2011 10:34:44 GMT -4
You did try to throw me under the buss, Knux (if "where's Havok" isn't a fair excuse, then sorry). And now it seems like you're trying to take people down with you (the whole 2 out of 3 comment).
No offense, Knux, but I've got to stick with my vote here. I was going to hit Noble hard and fast this time, but you've without a doubt turned everyone's attention your way with not only your night actions, but also your defensiveness.
I'm sticking with my vote.
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Post by jc on Oct 30, 2011 10:35:26 GMT -4
Could Atken be a framer? It does show him visiting both knuckles and L1.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 30, 2011 10:42:45 GMT -4
Wait, can different roles visit more than one person overnight?
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 30, 2011 10:43:06 GMT -4
Could Atken be a framer? It does show him visiting both knuckles and L1. I have been wondering what kind of role gets two night actions |
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 30, 2011 11:00:12 GMT -4
Could Atken be a framer? It does show him visiting both knuckles and L1. The thing is, if atkens framed Knuckles he would have only visited knuckles, not me. Though, atkens is in a similar boat with Knuckles because Atkens hasn't explained himself either; and maybe it's just me but he seems to be playing the, ''I'm just a very helpful townie'' act in overdrive. |
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 30, 2011 11:05:11 GMT -4
Right now, this is what I'm thinking.
Since Kaji came out scum, we should look at who didn't vote him out.
Me
Noblen
Knuckles
Atkens
I was more than willing to vote out Kaji, I just wanted some info first from Kaji to see what he had to say. Everyone jumped on Kaji pretty fast, and I don't think a scum would have voted Kaji.
Also if anyone is "Bright" enough, you can figure out that it was because of me that everyone lynched Kaji
So Noble, Atkens and Knuckles are my picks for 2 out of 3 scums.
Also, if someone can't vote, we need to know who you are. If you can't vote, Scum won't kill you cause your not a threat to them, and you won't get lynch cause lynching you gives us nothing
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 30, 2011 11:05:20 GMT -4
Maybe a framer, maybe an investigator?
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 30, 2011 11:06:44 GMT -4
EWOP
On second thought, it may have just been a mistake by Harvey. This DOES make the most sense. So, I have a question for Atkens...
You obviously have a role, so did you put it to use last night? Surely you can shed some actual insight on this game.
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 30, 2011 11:11:21 GMT -4
If anything, I view myself as useless this game. I'm finding it hard to really get much of a read on anything. Right now all I can wonder is why there is pressure on explanation of night actions. It's one thing to look at the results of night and find pretty evident scum from it, but to press on other people to roleclaim or rolehint is pretty much just giving the scum a priority list to hint on during nightkills.
To be honest, my gut is Knuckles is town. His reaction to his votes gels pretty well with that of a frustrated townie.
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 30, 2011 11:14:13 GMT -4
Honestly, while I am still suspicious of Atken, he didn't respond at all during day 2. I'm thinking its because it lasted a total of what? a few hours? He didn't log on and comment and then not vote. Of those people who DID respond, Knuckles is still the highest on my list of suspicious activity, again for reasons already stated.
Vote: Knuckles
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 30, 2011 11:14:25 GMT -4
Also Jeff, I can bet you that there's at least one scum on that vote for Kaji. It's a smart thing to do for the very reason you've outlined.The guy was dead anyway, might as well join the mob instead of starting out. I'm always suspect of people who push arguments like yours because it's a scum cliche.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 30, 2011 11:14:33 GMT -4
If your gut says Knuckles, why not cast a vote for him, or are not able to
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 30, 2011 11:16:06 GMT -4
Did you read my post, my gut is Knuckles is town. Why would I hammer down a vote on a townie?
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 30, 2011 11:16:23 GMT -4
Because his gut said "Knuckles.....IS TOWN"
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 30, 2011 11:17:18 GMT -4
unvote: Knuckles
Why are you worried about being night killed? Your first priority as town is to help the town win. If you're so useless in the game; then why not go on the limb to offer some insight to the game? You're not making any sense. Also, I'm not asking for your night role. I don't care.
Did you send in a night action as you did on day one and if so can you clear anyone with your information? Simple question...
I've unvoted knuckles, so don't be shocked about what's going to come next if you continue to pussyfoot around the question.
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 30, 2011 11:20:00 GMT -4
If I had information useful to the town, I'd give it. I don't but I could. Seems simple enough. I don't know why "don't give scum more information" is such a difficult concept for you to comprehend.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 30, 2011 11:20:07 GMT -4
Did you read my post, my gut is Knuckles is town. Why would I hammer down a vote on a townie? Sorry, I misread. Maybe I shouldn't be reading this thread and playing PS3 at the same time ;D |
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 30, 2011 11:24:42 GMT -4
vote: President Jeff
It's the strongest read I've got so far. The "scum won't have voted for Kaji" argument bothers me.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 30, 2011 11:26:57 GMT -4
If I had information useful to the town, I'd give it. I don't but I could. Seems simple enough. I don't know why "don't give scum more information" is such a difficult concept for you to comprehend. 1) You won't tell us what you were doing visiting both me and knuckles at night. Evidence points towards you framing knuckles (thus explaining why knuckles joked instead of answering my accusations; which isn't really good scum play at all) 2) You come out and defend Knuckles when he's near a lynch; probably knowing full well he's innocent. This gives you a little more credit amongst townies. 3) You were one of the three people who didn't lynch Kaji and people have gotten a bad vibe from you since day one. And finally, you have a role and won't even tells us if you even put it to use or how much you can use it, nothing. Rather, you just tells us how you can't let the ''scum'' know about it because you think they're going to night kill you... In reality, by doing this you make them want to night kill you, LOL; but I don't think your worried about nightkills because I believe you are in fact scum. |
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 30, 2011 11:32:00 GMT -4
Come on, you're smarter than that. You've just found a new shiny toy, after already explaining why I CAN'T have
I always love the argument "oh, scum won't vote for other scum" and "oh, you're just saying that because you know"
Sometimes it's as simple as it's outlined, there's no benefit right now to me giving you an explanation of my night actions, I wasn't around to Kaji's lynch anyway and I actually believe Knuckles is town.
This is a game of gut. Also, it doesn't matter how hard you try and push me to claim my night action, I won't.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 30, 2011 11:32:01 GMT -4
Also Jeff, I can bet you that there's at least one scum on that vote for Kaji. It's a smart thing to do for the very reason you've outlined.The guy was dead anyway, might as well join the mob instead of starting out. I'm always suspect of people who push arguments like yours because it's a scum cliche. If I had information useful to the town, I'd give it. I don't but I could. Seems simple enough. I don't know why "don't give scum more information" is such a difficult concept for you to comprehend. those two post from Atkens seems very Skummy to me. Vote: Atkens |
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 30, 2011 11:34:19 GMT -4
Atkens, why do you continue to claim I am pushing for you to roleclaim? I never did such a thing. You're unwillingness to even address what I am asking of you straight forward is just making you look more and more guilty.
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 30, 2011 11:34:46 GMT -4
Interesting.
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 30, 2011 11:37:07 GMT -4
Atkens, why do you continue to claim I am pushing for you to roleclaim? I never did such a thing. You're unwillingness to even address what I am asking of you straight forward is just making you look more and more guilty. You are asking me to explain my night action in regards to you. To do that would be to roleclaim. Easy as. Unless your asking why, in that case night 1 the people I picked were random. Hardly any information to go on, so I just picked. |
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 30, 2011 11:41:56 GMT -4
And he avoids it... AGAIN folks!
Did you use your night action last night? If so, who did you use it on? That is all I am asking you for. Complicated, no?
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 30, 2011 11:54:25 GMT -4
Aktens has a legitimate point, one I've made earlier about not hinting at anything because it puts a target on your back. I was talking about roleblocking abilities when I said it, Atkens is talking about a night abilities. What if he has an investigative role and says he was looking into your background? Oh, look, town cop. What a great target!! No one jumped on me when I said the same thing about not letting possible scum in on my role, so why are you and Jeff jumping on him now? Something doesn't seem right about this suddenly.
Unvote: Knuckles
Vote: President Jeff
I went for Jeff and not L1 because L1 may be pushing for something here, but he has yet to actually vote for the guy. Jeff took a logical argument and called it scummy as quick as possible.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 30, 2011 12:00:44 GMT -4
Really Arcadia, on my Birthday you go and do that  ;D Go check out the my first post of the day, it should clear me as town since its because of me everyone voted for Kaji I find it funny that as soon as I point out the people who didn't vote out Kaji could be scum, Atkens is first to quickly say something like "People who point that out are scum" Really? To me, people who say that are scum and want the target off them. I think Knuckles and Atkens are both scum right now, which is why Atkens didn't vote for Knuckles to kill him off when he had a chance. But right now, I'm pushing for Atkens cause he seems the skummiest to me |
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Post by Kurt on Oct 30, 2011 12:05:05 GMT -4
Anyone besides me notice that Jeff hinted at being the Lamp?
"Also if anyone is "Bright" enough, you can figure out that it was because of me that everyone lynched Kaji"
Here are the players that did no visiting on Night 1:
Me
Jeff
Sally
L1
Arcadia
- I'm not the lamp, so I have no need to pretend to be.
- Sally was the confirmed Fan.
That leaves the Lamp was being either L1, Arcadia, or Jeff. Jeff has claimed it... either you want to call bullshit on it?
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 30, 2011 12:06:52 GMT -4
I saw your post, I got the hint, I just don't like the tone of this last argument whatsoever, ESPECIALLY because I made the SAME EXACT POINT and atken is making now earlier. I'm not saying that I'm not still suspicious of him, but he seems alot less suspicious than he did before you jumped on him. I've got time to change my vote all I want. We haven't reached a lynch yet and we've all got alot to consider.
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