Heroes Mafia [Day 7]

[Kid Dynamo]

Overall, you're not exactly grasping at straws with your back-peddling, but you are drawing more attention to your current predicament than you are attempting to sweep it away, especially when you keep making references to your possibility of being a townie and having the Mafia gun you down.

I'm quite curious about this, I must admit.

At this point, shutting up would be a bigger red flag than continuing to talk. The ship has sailed on me being a smooth operator in this iteration of the game, and that's just how it is.

I hope I'm not a bigger target than anyone else, but that's the nature of the beast right? One of us doesn't wake up tomorrow. If we do nothing, there is no chance to take down a scumbag. Even waiting until Day 2 is us trading "the potential for evidence" for one of the townspeople. How is that a reasonable and fair trade?

I'll be the first to admit that I will probably never be able to look at one of you and say "Yep, he's scum; 100%!" Every vote we make is an educated guess based on not enough information. So why exactly do we customarily wait until AFTER we start getting mowed down by the bad guys to fight back the only way we can?

And, I'll say it again, because - assuming I'm not secretly the best bullcrapper on the planet - I'm in it for the town to win. You think I'm the most likely scumbag, then lynch me, but a no-vote means the scum get one step closer to winning while the town did absolutely nothing to stop it.

At this point, I don't expect to live through the day/night one way or the other, and that sucks, but I'm not going to sit around and wait to die. I'll sleep on it and cast my vote, and I highly suggest that the rest of you do the same.

[Blade]

Mohinder: Man is a narcissistic species by nature. We have colonized the four corners of our tiny planet. But we are not the pinnacle of so-called evolution. That honor belongs to the lowly cockroach. Capable of living for months without food. Remaining alive headless for weeks at a time. Resistant to radiation. If God has indeed created Himself in His own image, then I submit to you that God is a cockroach.

Vote count:


1 - Knuckles [Jeff]
2 - Noble [Metro, Bacon]
3 - Phil Atken [T-marv, JamesV, Biggs]
2 - T-Marv [Level One, Phil Atken]
2 - Dynamo [Kris, Rebel]


Not Voting
[Dynamo, Farquhar, CJ, Knuckles, Hometown Heroes, Matt Slater, Noble]


With 17 alive its 9 to Lynch


Deadline is at 12PM EST roughly 10 hours from now.


Mod Notes:

1. Metro failed to Unvote before voting for Bacon.
2. Please lets keep the name calling out of this game. Sure I can see some banter, but the name calling needs to become redundant.

[Level-Two]

Well, I figure I'd lend my two sense before there's enough ammunition fired at Kid Dynamo for scum to eventually bandwagon a vote on him here. In my opinion; he reeks of a first time town player. Of course there's always curve balls and it COULD be game-play but that's far less likely.

He's already said FAR too much FAR too early and if he was scum I'd like to think he'd have a somewhat of a competent scum team with him that would tell him to STFU before he got his ass lynched.

It doesn't seem like he's been guided or coached by anyone at all and it's been two days.

Now apart of me wanted to just sit back and see who decides to make the most of an opportunity like this but I'm convinced that if this continues he'll be lynched by day two because he doesn't really know what he's doing and I see first time townie written all over him.

As for lynches; there's nothing I can really get behind at this point; not to mention day one's almost done. I thought it would be Atkins but Terry Marvin's votes going to Atkins and simply then meaning Atkins is scum or third party seems to cheap and easy to me. Though, I think it's ridiculous to assume someone is controlling T-Marv's vote every time he votes; maybe a scum player got to choose who to do it to once the game started and can do so at the start of every day phase? Seems more likely, if a day phase is involved; I've run games on here and that's how I'd do it.

Regardless, day one is largely sucess. There's many leads and many stand outs today that make the night actions process a bit easier for the town.

Doctor *cough* protect me. ;D

[Level-Two]

EWOP: I forgot to unvote: Terry Marvin

[Phil Atken]

unvote

So yeah, as I thought, it's Marvin's vote that's been buggered around with. I don't we're going to see the full picture with it today though. If indeed there is a full picture.

I could keep slap fighting with James but that's not going to get us anywhere at the moment. He can either try and provide evidence of this flip-flopping defensiveness if he wishes but he knows he has nothing to back it up. Or is the defensiveness the normal "if someone replies to a charge against them, no matter the lack of merit, it's defensiveness". It's also pretty rich moaning about metagaming when your first defense of my suspicion on you was "haven't you played with me before?". Still evidence of what you're saying actually being true and not "because I said so" would be lovely.

Also "don't be an idiot" isn't calling you an idiot, it's a colloquial usage for "think things through, you're smarter than that". You're explosion was p. idiotic though.

I'm with L-1, KD just strikes me as a easy/lazy case on a new player. Could easily see scum using that case to jump up on but no one who has pushed that direction has struck me as any worse than the rest of them.

Going to go where I feel strongest gut.

vote: Knuckles

Any case I make on James today will be viewed as a continued slap fight no matter the validity or not (please keep in mind his focus without any actual facts amounted when I voted for him without stating a reason). Bacon's joke bandwagoning is more likely again just new player fitting in than scum for the moment, although it would be nice to hear from him.

Knuckles has just kinda lazed about James explosion, pointing at the car crash and going "look see" without adding much of merit. He's already attempting to throw focus on a narrow few people with little reason. It's all very smart play as scum.

[Kid Dynamo]

vote: Phil Atken

I followed your implicit advice and looked for the scum tell that was the most subtle.

However to me it's you. Both of us incited a riot during Day 1, but I have not really felt satisfied by your attempts to explain yourself.

Even in this post, you essentially blame JamesV instead of simply explaining your logic. When you DO explain your logic, it's to vote for someone who simply put won't earn the votes.

Maybe I'm overthinking but, if hypothetically you and Knucks are BOTH scum, the smart play would be to deflect your heat onto him, resulting in just enough sway to prevent you from being lynched.

In other words, at this point in the day, me and you are the only ones who have behaved in a way as to inspire a lynch mob. I'm betting a vote for the 15 others would equate to a non-vote.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Geddy Lee

[C.J. Gates]

Feb 3, 2012 2:54:37 GMT -4 Kid Dynamo said:

I'll be the first to admit that I will probably never be able to look at one of you and say "Yep, he's scum; 100%!" Every vote we make is an educated guess based on not enough information. So why exactly do we customarily wait until AFTER we start getting mowed down by the bad guys to fight back the only way we can.

I guess some people customarily wait until after so that night actions can be used the first night to help gather some intel so that we can eventually look at someone and say that they are 100% scum.

I'm not saying that a no lynch is the best idea, I just don't see it happening with 3 hours left. If I would have placed a vote last night, it would have been on you Dynamo, but I'm starting to see you more as an inexperienced first time player then scum.

[T-Marv]

I'm not gonna vote you Dynamo cause I honestly don't see you as scum, just innexperianced. But you SERIOUSLY have to stop jumping your vote around. You're not helping and it's just getting confusing.

Also, just because There is no lynch on day one DOES NOT Mean it was a wasted day. There is plenty of information going in to tonight and I think it will be a very VERY productive night

[Michael Jennings]

Feb 3, 2012 4:42:58 GMT -4 Phil Atken said:

unvote

So yeah, as I thought, it's Marvin's vote that's been buggered around with. I don't we're going to see the full picture with it today though. If indeed there is a full picture.

I could keep slap fighting with James but that's not going to get us anywhere at the moment. He can either try and provide evidence of this flip-flopping defensiveness if he wishes but he knows he has nothing to back it up. Or is the defensiveness the normal "if someone replies to a charge against them, no matter the lack of merit, it's defensiveness". It's also pretty rich moaning about metagaming when your first defense of my suspicion on you was "haven't you played with me before?". Still evidence of what you're saying actually being true and not "because I said so" would be lovely.

Also "don't be an idiot" isn't calling you an idiot, it's a colloquial usage for "think things through, you're smarter than that". You're explosion was p. idiotic though.

Oh look, more condescending commentaries from Atken. Not surprised at all since you've been whining this entire day phase. Even without the sarcasm and constant arguing you are still easily the top suspect. First off you changed votes about five times. Second you got defensive when confronted. Third you tried to play it off like a joke afterwardds which of course it isnt. Fourth you started metagaming and yet while you talked about another game my response was "haven't younplayed with me before?" Because if you did we wouldn't be arguing over my playstyle and you would know that I play more aggressively when town hence your entire point would be destroyed. As for evidence I want everyone to look at every post made by Atken. You will find at least one red flag or suspicious comment in every (or almost every) post. My vote will not be changing. I'm pretty much convinced he's eityher scum or third party at this point.

[Blade]

Eden: Well, this is macaroni and cheese. It's what Americans eat when they want to commit suicide slowly.

Vote count:


2 - Knuckles [Jeff, Atken]
2 - Noble [Metro, Bacon]
4 - Phil Atken [T-marv, JamesV, Biggs, Dynamo]
2 - Dynamo [Kris, Rebel]


Not Voting
[Farquhar, CJ, Knuckles, Hometown Heroes, Matt Slater, Noble, Level One]


With 17 alive its 9 to Lynch


Deadline is at 12PM EST roughly 1 hour 10 minites from now.

[T-Marv]

Unvote

I'm interested, I want to know!!!!

Vote: Phil Atken

Purely experimental.

[Blade]

Mohinder Suresh: Some individuals, it is true, are more special. This is natural selection. It begins as a single individual born or hatched like every other member of their species. Anonymous. Seemingly ordinary. Except they're not. They carry inside them the genetic code that will take their species to the next evolutionary rung. It's destiny.

Deadline...


Final Vote Count:


2 - Knuckles [Jeff, Atken]
2 - Noble [Metro, Bacon]
3 - Phil Atken [JamesV, Biggs, Dynamo]
2 - Dynamo [Kris, Rebel]
1 - Level One [T-Marv]


Not Voting
[Farquhar, CJ, Knuckles, Hometown Heroes, Matt Slater, Noble, Level One]



No Lynch has been made as we head into the night phase.

Deadline to get your night actions into me if you have any is Saturday February 4th 12PM EST


If I receive them all early I may start the next phase sooner, and remember, no talking at night

[Blade]

Around 2 and a half hours to get night actions in.

I think im going out, so expect next day phase to start around 1pm EST

[Blade]

Somewhere in Tokyo, Japan


Ando Masahashi: But Hiro, I don't understand. You say you are special, but you have no proof. I say we just kick back and play video games while we are at work.

Hiro Nakamura: Ando, You have to have faith.

With that said, Hiro closes his eyes tightly and starts to shake. ando stands by him and laughs.

Ando Masahashi: See Hiro, I told you...

A flash of light and Hiro disappears from the office leaving Ando shocked.

Ando Masahashi: Hiro? Hiro? Come back, quit playing, I believe you...


____________________


Somewhere in Los Angles, CA

Matt Parkman is at home with his Wife Janice Parkman. Infront of them laid out on the table are a selection of takeaway menus.

Matt Parkman: So what are we having tonight? Pizza or Chinese?

Janice Parkman: Its your call dear...

"Although I am sure your fat ass will eat anything put infront of you"

Matt Parkman: Sorry, what did you say?

Janice Parkman: Oh nothing dear, you choose..

Janice gets up from the sofa and heads into the bedroom when there is a knock at the door.

Matt Parkman: I guess I'll get it..

Matt gets up and heads to the door looking through the peep hole to see nothing. He reaches down and turns the handle opening the door. A figure stands infront of him.

Matt Parkman: and what do you want? I havent ordered food yet.

The figure approaches him knocking him to the floor.

Man: Oh, you have everything I need...


The rest can just be for your imagination, but it wasn't nice. Matt Parkman was found the next day with his head sliced open.


____________________


Somewhere in Clayton, NY


Hiro Nakamura: Woah!! Where am I?

Hiro pats himself down as he has arrived somewhere after travelling through space and time. He is behind some Bushes when he sees a few figures lurking by a house.

A commotion is made as Phil Atken is bundled out of the house and into a Van...





Night 1:

Dead
Knuckles - Matt Parkman - Lie Detector
Special Power: Telepathy, Precognition

[Blade]

Mohinder Suresh: We all imagine ourselves the agents of our destiny, capable of determining our own fate. But have we truly any choice in when we rise? Or when we fall? Or does a force larger than ourselves bid us our direction? Is it evolution that takes us by the hand? Does science point our way? Or is it God who intervenes, keeping us safe?

Day 2 Begins

ALIVE -

1. Bacon
2. Noble
3. L-1
4. Rebel
6. CJ
7. Kris
8. Farquhar
9. Hometown Heroes
10. T-Marv
11. Jeff
12. JamesV
13. Dynamo
14. Atken
15. Biggs
16. Captain Metro
17. Matt Slater


16 alive - 9 to lynch



Deadline is at 1PM EST on Tuesday 7th February 2012

[President Jeff]

So with Level One still alive, does this mean he's scum? ;D

[Michael Jennings]

Is it just me or does it appear as if Atken was kidnapped? If that's the case then whomever Hiro is probably knows who did it.

[Kid Dynamo]

What would that mean for a guy to be kidnapped?

Also, Knuckles was killed by a man who was colored white, not red; and Atken was white also. Does that mean third party players or am I overthinking?

Finally, Knucks was killed in Sylar fashion, does that mean his killer now has precognition?

[Kurt]

Feb 4, 2012 14:29:53 GMT -4 Kid Dynamo said:

What would that mean for a guy to be kidnapped?

Also, Knuckles was killed by a man who was colored white, not red; and Atken was white also. Does that mean third party players or am I overthinking?

Finally, Knucks was killed in Sylar fashion, does that mean his killer now has precognition?

Being kidnapped means we won't hear from him today. I'm curious as to why his actual name, and not his character name was used though.

We haven't seen any red names yet, so I'm wondering the role white names play. Wasn't Linderman in white earlier? Parkman's wife was also in white, but I don't remember her being overly important in the first season (only one I've seen). Something about these white names, in addition to the Mafia we haven't seen yet isn't sitting well with me.

[Kid Dynamo]

The obvious question is: does white = scum?

[President Jeff]

I find it odd that Scum killed Knuckles. Not saying he's a bad player, but I expected a stronger player like James V, Tmarv or Level One to get killed.

[Hometown Heroes]

Or Mafia didn't send in their actions in time that could be it also? I found it strange with the "white" for names. Never saw that before.

[President Jeff]

If Mafia (The Godfather) didn't send their votes in in time, there would have been no kill

[Kurt]

Feb 4, 2012 15:33:30 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

If Mafia (The Godfather) didn't send their votes in in time, there would have been no kill

Could lean towards a more inactive godfather or a roleblocker having stopped the kill. The latter we just need to wait for if it did happen. It would be huge to knock out the Godfather this early if we have viable information like that.

Also, the only thing about the white names is that the rules says mafia are in red. So, we just haven't seen them yet unless the rules are mistaken.

[Kris]

White names are usually used to denote non-factor characters... but why would Atken be white? He's a player in the game--

Hm, maybe his name was white so as to not give away his alignment, either way. It's an interesting development to keep in mind.

As for who was responsible for the night kill... I think that Sylar was responsible for that, and that my earlier theory of Sylar being a third party that wrecks the day of all involved is correct. If that's the case, then that also explains why his name (or lack thereof) was white since his status as an independent party would surely be something worth hiding since I think it's pretty clear that no one wants him around to be killing people.

[Michael Jennings]

Feb 4, 2012 15:25:49 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

I find it odd that Scum killed Knuckles. Not saying he's a bad player, but I expected a stronger player like James V, Tmarv or Level One to get killed.

I think they did that to keep myself and Atken at each other's throats.

As for the inactive godfather theory we need to look at who has been not as active in the game as possible persons of interests as far as that goes.

[Michael Jennings]

Feb 4, 2012 15:19:05 GMT -4 Kid Dynamo said:

The obvious question is: does white = scum?

In this case, I'm leaning toward a yes. It is a possibility considering the town player's names are in green.

[Johnny Rebel]

I went back and looked through the thread to try and find anything to tie scum with a Knuckles kill and the only thing I found that looked remotely scummy was a little tiff between Knuckles and TMarv... C.J. Gates mentioned TMarv's funky voting twist and this was Knuckles' reply:

Feb 1, 2012 13:13:59 GMT -4 Reaver said:

thats what i was thinking....

u got 1 chant marv, wats up?

Not enough to warrant a vote at this point but I'm definitely FoS'ing TMarv at this point. The whacky vote thing was one thing but then to see Knuckles turn up dead after the comment posted above...

As far as the inactive theory goes, you could pin that on one of two people, IMO. Bacon and Chris Hart have both been sporadic, specifically with Bacon throwing up votes without any explanation.

This is going to be a very interesting game.

[T-Marv]

Yeah, I'm going to kill Knuckles after he called me out like that? First... the vote thing wasn'tmy fault at all, i've figured out what the deal was though....lmao, see below.

Here's what I know....

Peter Petreli is a Vote Stealer...and yesterday he stole my vote. There is a possibility that Peter is Scum, but I'm not sure.

Nikki Sanders is a protector.... and visited me last night (thank you btw)

What does this add to the game? not much, but PEter is the reason my vote was stolen, and peter used it on me day one.... but he fucked up!

Sylar is MOST LIKELY a serial killer. There is also a possibility that the SC has a kill on odd days and the mafia on evens. This is how I've run a lot of my games and MAY be how Blade is running his, but I don't know for sure.

I have a theory...and it's a wild one but here it goes.

My vote was stolen yesterday... this is CONFIRMED btw. And then, knuckles dies which could easily be pointed back to me since he and i chirped back and forth a little yesterday. It appears to me that the mafia is trying to frame me.

That is why L1, myself or James V or any other strong player wasn't killed.... That and scum is most likely one of those players as well.

[Kid Dynamo]

I don't think Knucks pointed enough at you or anyone (cept MAYBE Phil) to warrant death.

I thinkmore logical is the scum have a seer that knew Knucks' power and wanted it gone.