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Post by SalTal on Mar 31, 2012 7:04:53 GMT -4
Yeah, I'm not much of a fan of the 'check ins'. But, people are busy and so long as they are at least keeping us posted.
That said, I bet one scum has used it as an excuse at least because of the amount of people doing it.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Mar 31, 2012 8:41:09 GMT -4
 "Where's the jade figurine?" - Agent 47 1-President Jeff (Kurt Noble) 1-Branden Young (President Jeff) 1-CJ Gates (Blade) NOT VOTING: Atken, Branden Harvey, Chaz Dillinger, CJ Gates, Gubayama, James V, Julius Farquhar, Kris, Knuckles, Level One, Sally Talfourd, T-Marv |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Mar 31, 2012 9:15:41 GMT -4
I'd have to agree with Blade (well up until he voted me that is lol), this has definitely been a lackluster day one. I thought it might pick up after Farq started talking about characters but then it fizzled and all we've been getting is activity posts. There is no doubt that scum are just sitting back and enjoying the silence while they formulate some sort of plan.
The worst part is, there are too many "inactive" types, so I can't really throw a gut shot vote out and hope to build something.
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Post by brandenharvey on Mar 31, 2012 11:15:53 GMT -4
People are inactive because they don't know what to say with nothing to go on.
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 31, 2012 12:39:49 GMT -4
People are inactive because they don't know what to say with nothing to go on. Bingo. I personally don't know the flavour of the game and I have nothing to offer. The chances of actually nailing scum to the wall is slim to none on day one. Night actions will pick things up and we'll truly see who's ''active'' or not. |
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Post by President Jeff on Mar 31, 2012 12:43:43 GMT -4
Like everyone else, I got nothing to add.
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Post by Reaver on Mar 31, 2012 12:57:30 GMT -4
ok so thisll be my 1 post for the day so i guess i should say something constructive.
i try to think of who hasnt been scum yet and is at some point due sooner or later. (if that helps) if we r gonna weed anybody out on day 1 (which is unlikely) then we need to see who is A) inactive, B) putting their foot in their mouths, C) hasnt been scum in all these games.
it may not be the best way to check but its a start. think of it like a corner puzzle piece. now im far from being decent at this and im certainly not god playing this game but is it possible that some people's posts r limited? i dont really know much about the hitman game but i think the moniker of 3 scum, 1 3rd party and 11 town might be about right.
hopefully people will REALLY LOOK HARD into EACH POST to see who is who.
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Post by Reaver on Mar 31, 2012 12:58:06 GMT -4
ebwop....
.....good, not god........
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Post by T-Marv on Mar 31, 2012 13:17:50 GMT -4
I think going after those who haven't been scum is a really rough idea. Sure, it's a decent place to start to prod people, but it's no reason to vote.
If that were the case, when was the last time you were Scum Knucks?
Also, look at the Pres Jeff argument. Every game we say "he's due to be scum" and every game we're wrong. The fact that the roles are random means everyone has the same chance to be scum.
That being said, I like that you brought this up cause maybe it'll add a little fire to the debate.
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Post by Kris on Mar 31, 2012 15:04:18 GMT -4
There's no logic whatsoever in going after the idea of focusing on people that haven't been mafia in the past. It's just like going after inactivity on day one-- idiotic to the extreme since it's such a broad spectrum, and bringing it up is something that I personally find to be a little suspicious since it is a tactic that has been proven to not work all that well in the past.
Beyond that, though, there's not much more that I can add beyond agreeing that four non-town (in whatever capacity, be they third party or mafia) makes sense to me. I haven't played the Hitman games in many years, so I'm not as familiar with the setting as I was in the last game.
Man, if only someone would run an Atlus RPG-based Mafia game that I could actually play... I'd be able to contribute a lot more off of the flavor, perhaps too much so.
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Post by Kurt on Mar 31, 2012 15:22:20 GMT -4
People are inactive because they don't know what to say with nothing to go on. Bingo. I personally don't know the flavour of the game and I have nothing to offer. The chances of actually nailing scum to the wall is slim to none on day one. Night actions will pick things up and we'll truly see who's ''active'' or not. Last game, the Godfather was T-2 votes from getting lynched on Day 1. In Heroes Mafia, Phil Atken had a few votes going for him before the day ended. I'm not saying that we'll get someone Day 1, but at least noting people's behavior is helpful. This general apathy and "Obligatory Day 1 post" without commenting on really anything isn't helpful. I don't know the flavor either, but I can at least comment try and talk/debunk ideas. As for the "go after people that have not formerly been scum"...it's not good play. Every Mafia game is independent of the last game, so theoretically, someone could go 100 games and never be Mafia. Doesn't make them any more or less suspicious. If we go by that mindframe...Knuckles would definitely be on the list of possible suspects, having been Mafia...once? |
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Post by Michael Callahan on Mar 31, 2012 17:01:29 GMT -4
DAY 1 ends without a lynch! (Yay!)
You have 24 hours to send me your night actions either VIA PM or QuickTopic. At 22:00PM, April 1st, a write-up will be posted and a new day will begin.
NO TALKING DURING NIGHT TIME.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Apr 1, 2012 17:04:39 GMT -4
HITMAN MAFIA
NIGHT 1
CLOWNING AROUND
”Hello 47, Diana here. We have a new assignment for you, which our client promises to be the first of many if this is a success. Our client wants you to assassinate a Kazakh gunrunner by the name of Arkadij Jegorov, a ruthless weapons smuggler with a take no prisoners attitude. However, finding him has proven difficult. The aggregate aim of our client is to dismantle his illegal operations and prevent him from quote, “arming dissidents”. So instead of taking out Jegorov, we're sending you after his right hand man... There'll be more details waiting for you when you land in Rotterdam. … Good luck, 47.
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It's late night in the dank, morose inner-city areas of Rotterdam, Holland. Yet still people are thriving like bacteria through the veins of Holland's second favourite city in their Friday night blood lust for some action. The winding streets of the city carry with the wind the raw stench of piss and disdain for progress, a sort of air of futility for any real future. This was a hopeless place built on the foundations of broken dreams and sin. It was here that our agent had been sent.
Tonight's festivities had offered a decidedly more morbid alternative to the usual drinking and fighting in the form of the Sykdom Freak Show at the maggot infested, rotting wooden corpse of the Kuga Theatre. One of the oldest buildings in the area, this derelict husk had been the breeding ground of many an evil deed if local lore were to be believed. It was a terrifying place indeed, but for one night only it would used as a venue for a macabre sense of merriment. A makeshift museum for the ghastly ugly and bizarre, poor people who'd done nothing in life to deserve the cruelty of their masters but be born different.
It was the last night of the show and the final preparations were under way ensuring this one was the most unforgettable one yet. For Ivan Zilvanovich and his group of armed mercenaries who's sole job was to protect him, it'd been a remarkably rewarding tour of one of the most horrific places in Europe. For his “performers” on the other hand, his starved, caged, captive rag-tag army of freak performers it had been nothing short of misery. Ivan Zilvanovich did not care and neither did the hard paying customers who were none the wiser as to the extent of the cruelty these poor backwards people suffered. It was a cruel world indeed.
Ivan's warped concept of a good time involved marijuana, alcohol, the misery of his freaks and for the first time in a long time, surprisingly high ticket sales for his show. Beyond the facadé of his “entertainment” endeavour though lay the true purpose of his “tour”. Ivan Zilvanovich was a gun runner and a damn good one at that. He'd made an absolute killing in Rotterdam, selling an arsenal's worth of explosives to a local biker fraternity who's leaders minds were almost as warped as his. The money he'd made and the downtime he'd enjoyed in the home of the largest seaport in Europe had made it a very pleasant stay indeed.
Passing the time as he waited for the final show to start, Ivan was mindlessly chattering away with his employer Arkadij Jegorov who was more than pleased to here of the success of this business trip.
Arkadij Jegorov: You mean to tell me that you sold all the C4's and the petrol bombs?
Ivan Zilvanovich: Every last one of them Jegorov, the Rotterdam Fire were eager to buy our merchandise. When are we collecting our next supply?
Arkadij Jegorov: I should have more munitions ready for you to collect during the Turkey show my brother. Have you heard anything from that idiot Pablo Ochoa?
Ivan Zilvanovich: No. I haven't heard from him in two months. He's probably still playing with that oversized cat in his fort, haha.
Arkadij Jegorov:[/B] Well keep up the good work my friend, I'm starting to remember why I hired you in the first place. I'll make sure to put a good word in for you with Dr. Ort-Meyer.
Ivan Zilvanovich: Thanks. I have to go now, my show is starting soon!
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Six hours later and soon the show was building towards its magnificent crescendo. The locals had enjoyed a thoroughly twisted night of ogling at the deformed and even a live sex show. Such was the no-holds barred of this bizarre carnival. Now though, it was time for the finalé. On opposite sides of the building, thirty feet in the air were two theatre boxes with a tightrope tied to one balcony from the other. Underneath the rope where the area immediately around the front of the stage used to be, there was nothing but jagged chunks of wood and a scattering of rusty nails. Years of moisture from a leak in the roof had caused the floorboards to collapse on itself, leaving a death trap waiting to happen for anyone who didn't have incredible stage dive capabilities.
Did Ivan care though? No. He'd survived plenty of suicide attempts before and the act he was about to perform was one he'd mastered in his ten years in the freak show. This was the act that Ivan was born to do and had done a multitude of times in the build up to tonight, the final show in Rotterdam. Peeking round the curtains from his box, Ivan snatched a glimpse at a distracted audience. Enamoured completely with a ghastly wretch of a man who'd been starved anorexic and been born with two faces. He noted to himself that Zun, Lee Hong's personal bodyguard was occupying three seats in the fourth row. He didn't have time to think about why though because it was almost time for him to go...
Announcer: And now, for our final act... our own ringmaster, Ivan the Terrible will cross this thin.. THIN tight rope with fire poi!
The eerie old lights that had illuminated the building so far were killed emphatically. Ivan took one final look at the crowd, seeing half the crowd reach out for cameras and camcorders. He didn't know why, but he had this feeling in his gut that what he was about to do was not the best idea he'd ever had. The carnie simply dismissed it as stage jitters and took his first step onto the balcony. Pulling a lighter from his pocket, he ignited both his poi casting a brilliant bright red flame around his presence. Making his way across the ropes now, he demonstrated his amazing abilities twirling his poi and stepping across the razor thin tightrope as a dim spotlight illuminated the way for him. Little did he know that the steps he was taking... would be his last.
A keen eye from the crowd silently watches...
SNAP
Ivan's heart nearly leapt out of his mouth as he felt the rope slack beneath his feet. He kicked his legs and flailed desperately but to no avail. He was falling. His eyes went wide in stark terror as he fell fifty feet from his tight rope in the sky into an abyss of jagged spikes and nails. No matter how much he flailed his legs to delay the inevitable, it was no use. His harrowing screams echoed through the hollow wooden walls of the old Kuga Theatre as he fell right onto a stake that plunged straight through his stomach and out the other side. Dropping his fire poi, the petrolleum flames started licking and biting at the wood and soon the entire pit beneath him was ablaze. Hot flames started licking at Ivan's flesh as he ended his life, skewered like a cocktail sausasge and cooking away while throwing up his own life fluids into the flames.
It was a grizzly way to die.
The sight of Ivan lighting up on a stake like an old wooden torch lead to the crowds screeching and scattering like terrified bats. Zun stood and stared looking desperately to find any possible causes for Ivan's untimely, but well definitely not undeserved death. The only thing he saw was a bald man leaving the venue calmly with a distinct barcode tattoo on the back of his skull. Boards in the ceiling started to crash down and so Zun quickly made his escape from the theatre.[/color]. [/i]
DEAD: Night 1, Kurt Noble, Ivan Zilvanovich, Syndicate Thief
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Post by Michael Callahan on Apr 1, 2012 17:06:14 GMT -4
Let Day 2 commence...
ALIVE PLAYERS:
1. Atken
2. Blade
3. Branden Harvey
4. Chaz Dillinger
5. CJ Gates
6. Gubayama
7. James V
8. Julius Farquhar
9. Kris
10. Knuckles
11. Level One
12. President Jeff
13. Sally Talfourd
14. T-Marv
DEAD PLAYERS:
1. Michael Callahan, Sen. Michael Callahan, Syndicate Governor (NIGHT X)
2. Kurt Noble, Ivan Zilvanovich, Syndicate Thief (NIGHT 1)
Day 2 will officially close at 22:00PM on 4th of April, 2012 at 10PM GMT (72 hours). With fourteen players left standing, it takes eight to lynch.
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Post by Jules on Apr 1, 2012 17:16:51 GMT -4
Well, it seems like my hypothesis about the flavour alignment was correct.
Noble dead...suggests someone on the mafia who has played enough games here to know who the key players are. But then that doesn't give us a short list of suspects.
I used my night power successfully, but it didn't yield any useful information other than the person I targeted didn't do anything last night.
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Post by Jules on Apr 1, 2012 17:18:39 GMT -4
EBWOP
I should clarify, my target didn't perform an action last night.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 1, 2012 17:23:50 GMT -4
I'd agree with you, Farq. He was one of the ones pushing for day one activity/activity in general, so I'd wager that the mafia took him out to get rid of an active/smart player.
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Kris
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Post by Kris on Apr 1, 2012 17:40:55 GMT -4
Considering how well Noble played in the lone other Mafia game I've played, it's no surprise that he got taken out... although that might be something we can go off of in the future. We should keep an eye on the other people that play well and see if they get taken out in similar fashion, and perhaps see which stronger players remain alive instead of being taken out?
...it makes sense in my head, I swear.
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Apr 1, 2012 18:13:10 GMT -4
I don't think watching our allies be struck down one-by-one until a pattern is formed to act is a good idea. Noble's, evidently one of the more thoughtful players, elimination tells me any similar veteran of this game may be next, and his role may be crucial to our survival.
This isn't me pushing for a lynch. This is me suggesting we interrogate or somehow make the time we have useful before the next night phase.
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 1, 2012 19:14:14 GMT -4
Kris visited Noble last night.
Vote: Kris
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 1, 2012 19:39:16 GMT -4
Noble was definitely a big loss as he pretty much led the town the last couple games. There's definitely a veteran feel about things during the night phase. So either the GF is a experienced player or somebody on the mafia is and is doing a great job of leading them.
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 1, 2012 19:40:17 GMT -4
Kris Visited Noble? Is she the only one who visited noble Branden? Can you confirm that?
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 1, 2012 19:48:28 GMT -4
He's the only person she visited. I don't know if anyone else did.
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Kris
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Post by Kris on Apr 1, 2012 21:59:56 GMT -4
I didn't visit anyone, Branden, because I don't have any night abilities with which to visit anyone with. You're lying through your teeth right now, and I'm not about to just lay down and let it happen.
The question, though, is why you're lying about me.
It's fairly obvious that you've got something to gain from it... and I think I know exactly what it is. I had a fairly solid game of it the last time I played-- a damned good run for a rookie according to more than a couple people-- so it stands to reason that I would also potentially be a target. Get the townies to do your work for you and that leaves the field wide open for someone else to be taken out at the next night phase.
Now, with that being said, there's two reasons that you would lie; one being that you are incredibly stupid, something that has been proven time and time again in how poorly you've played in the past... or you're scum.
Consider it a compliment that I'm voting on account of the latter.
Vote: Branden Harvey
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 1, 2012 22:53:57 GMT -4
I guess people will see who they believe.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 1, 2012 23:18:13 GMT -4
Ooolahlah, action on day two. Much like I anticipated. I will too chime in and say Kurt Noble was a big loss (equipped with his awesome role by the way) so the Mafia is obviously led or has a vet or two on their side.
FOS: Kris
The only reason why it's not a vote is because the day phase just started and we haven't yet heard any other leads but you can pretty much consider this a vote if nothing else comes about really fucking soon. Kris's response to Branden Harvey reeks like a scummer caught on night one and is just absolutely livid about it.
Two flaws I see in your angry post is that you have already drawn up a motive of why Branden Harvey would lie about you. I think if Harvey was scum and you were a player they really needed gone right now, they would have killed you yesterday.
Secondly, there's no suspicion on Harvey. There's no benefit in him coming out and claiming you were caught visiting Noble. There's a good chance that if you're lynched and your NOT scum, he's next.
Third, it's fucking Branden Harvey. I give much credit if scum decided to trot him out to pull something like this off.
Lastly, you've resorted to even calling him stupid. Equipped with italics and bolded phrases in your angry post--which shows me, you're putting extra thought into your response posts.
As former scum, I can tell you that this is probably going to be a short game for you.
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Kris
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Post by Kris on Apr 1, 2012 23:29:00 GMT -4
I'm not livid because I'm scum, Lester. I'm livid because he's lying his ass off.
You honestly cannot tell me that you wouldn't be just as pissed off if he would've been dishonest about you-- and as for me 'drawing up a motive'? I'm trying to figure out why he'd be putting a bulls-eye in the middle of my back when I haven't done a damned thing to warrant it. And yes, yes I am going to call him stupid for pulling this shit because I want the same thing that every other townie wants-- to get the scum (and potential third party members) lynched so that we can win. And if you're going to find me, Miss Codes-As-She-Goes, suspicious for using italics and bold in my posts when I've always used code for emphasis? Then that's even flimsier than going after inactivity as suspicious on Day One.
Frankly, if he is town? Then he's just committed the equivalent of in-game suicide since I'm town, too-- and should more people buy into the bullshit he's slinging? Then you'll see it for yourself.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 1, 2012 23:36:11 GMT -4
I'm not livid because I'm scum, Lester. I'm livid because he's lying his ass off. You honestly cannot tell me that you wouldn't be just as pissed off if he would've been dishonest about you-- and as for me 'drawing up a motive'? I'm trying to figure out why he'd be putting a bulls-eye in the middle of my back when I haven't done a damned thing to warrant it. And yes, yes I am going to call him stupid for pulling this shit because I want the same thing that every other townie wants-- to get the scum (and potential third party members) lynched so that we can win. And if you're going to find me, Miss Codes-As-She-Goes, suspicious for using italics and bold in my posts when I've always used code for emphasis? Then that's even flimsier than going after inactivity as suspicious on Day One. All of us want to get scum, but not all of us would fly off the handle if we had a vote on us. And yes, that is what I'm calling it. I mean, if I had one vote on me, I'd try and pitch a case about it, which you did...albeit, a bit harshly (the whole insult thing, since no matter how you slice it, it's still an insult in the manner you posed it), and then when confronted on it, you got even MORE defensive. MORE then a townie would get if they only had ONE of, what, eight votes? And considering how there are a bunch of people who probably won't vote until closer to the deadline or until everyone has chimed in with potential night results... The way I look at it is this: Kris already mentioned how she's somewhat okay with sitting and seeing if there is a pattern in night kills. Sure, she probably didn't mean it that way, but that's how it seemed. Branden comes out with what he calls evidence. Kris fires back saying she's lying, and claiming she has no night action, and acts very, very defensive to people pointing the finger at her. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 1, 2012 23:37:50 GMT -4
EWOP
(Forgot to finish it off.)
To me, she seems like the best lynch for the day. The ONLY reason why my vote isn't on her right now, is because I want to wait a bit and see if anyone else has anything more concrete on anyone else.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 1, 2012 23:39:55 GMT -4
FOS: Kris
Nah, the coding thing was just an added caveat not meant to stand on it's own. The overall tone of your post however as I stated above was enough for me (along with Branden Harvey's info) to believe him over you.
This game is never 100% but I don't see any alternative explanations for his night result nor why Mafia would specifically target you. Maybe, my ego is overblown... but me, T-Marv, James-V, Blade, ect. ect. would be higher up in line for any frame ups and whatnot on the opening night of a game.
I don't think Harvey is lying because it doesn't make any sense. You on other hand? If you're scum & caught, then a mislynch and a night kill is the best thing that could happen for you from this situation.
And yes, I'd be angry if someone lied about me but this is a game and those insults usually come not when you're lied about but when you're caught. I've personally lost my cool on QT's before and got personal.
That's all I have to say to you. I'll wait to hear more info... but at this point, I think if we lynch you we'll hit godfather. Although, I'm sure it's in your best interest to disagree.
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