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Post by T-Marv on Apr 2, 2012 22:57:21 GMT -4
Is that you giving up? Can you tell us who your scum buddies are? vote: BrandenUm... Kris, Blade, and Michael Callahan LOL... Vote: Branden Harvey |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 2, 2012 23:27:36 GMT -4
I'm PRETTY sure the lynch was reached but I just want to make sure that it did. I know, I know, posting a vote after the lynch is reached is a poor play but I was gone all day.
Vote: Branden Harvey
The vote is pretty much because you gave up. You threw in the towel and that was what tipped my hand. Sure, you LIED about your role because you thought you were a lyncher, and you very well may be scum or third party anyways, but to give up? That right there is a sign that even if you are town, you aren't going to help us find scum.
That doesn't clear Kris though.
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 2, 2012 23:31:25 GMT -4
I guarantee you Kris is town. She and I have a connection in the game. I don't want to tell you what though.
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 2, 2012 23:31:59 GMT -4
EBWOP
Or rather, I can't tell you what.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 2, 2012 23:33:49 GMT -4
Hey, Doctor... if you wanna protect me tonight it would be very much appreciated.  |
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Post by Reaver on Apr 2, 2012 23:45:33 GMT -4
Phil Atken....because its part of my role...... VOTE: BrandenNOW its a lynch. plz do me a fav and double check the vote count and maybe my role will be understood. i also wanna state that Kris still isnt cleared, i really hope she can convince me otherwise. That being said, plz look close to my posts.
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Apr 3, 2012 0:50:12 GMT -4
Knuckles thought the same as I did after reading Branden's reaction. I think not only are Kris and Branden both scum but we have unknowingly watched their mates participate in their elimination. I do not reckon it's a good idea yet for me to point out who I believe are scum since I am hugely unfamiliar with everyone's game play, however, I do think several people are trying to give us the impression they are contributing in a way that would benefit the town.
Anyway, despite thinking Kris and Branden are scum, I am not confident enough to vote for either as this is still a big leap in the dark. Apparently Branden is quite strange with his gameplay and Kris' odd behavior is just that. Depending on the outcome of this lynch, I will know where to move from there.
And I'm afraid of giving away too much details of what I do at night because the wrong wordings may lead to my execution, but I tell you this out of faith that my fellow townies will give me the benefit of the doubt when sharing this intentionally vague information: I failed to do my job and I am ashamed. Hopefully I will be able to do it properly in night 2. And I very much intend to report regularly on my activities during the night.
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Post by SalTal on Apr 3, 2012 1:42:33 GMT -4
Reaver: Message received. @takagi: I reckon you're dead this next night phase.
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Apr 3, 2012 3:52:54 GMT -4
I'd like to see them scum try me! /puffs out chest.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Apr 3, 2012 5:12:26 GMT -4
With 10* votes, that is a lynch. I'll have a write-up for you shortly, though it is my birthday today so it's going to be questionable as to when. Everyone has the standard 24 hours to send in their night actions, although I might be a little flexible on this one because there's no guarantee that I'm waking up at 10AM tomorrow.
NO TALKING DURING NIGHT PHASE.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Apr 3, 2012 5:48:28 GMT -4
In an abandoned warehouse in Hungary, Dr. Ort-Meyer and Frantz Fuchs are having their first face to face meeting in sometime.
Dr. Ort-Meyer: Frantz, we have a problem. Your brother is becoming a liability.
Frantz Fuchs: What do you mean?
Dr. Ort-Meyer: I've been hearing strange mumblings about him. They unnerve me. Apparently he wants to bomb a GN summit?
Frantz Fuchs: So what? We have to take down those pseudo-democratic pigs in high office. It'll be a bloodbath of epic proportions.
Dr. Ort-Meyer: Talk of that stops now, Frantz. There is more at play than you can hope to imagine here. We have issues over in Hong Kong. They've sent out a Blue Lotus Emissary to try and negotiate with that stubborn bastard Lee Hong and he's being difficult about it to say the least. Senator Callahan and Ivan Zilvanovich are dead and it's nothing to do with us. We can't allow your reckless brother to make things anymore complicated than they already are.
Frantz Fuchs: I can't kill him though. I'll keep him under control.
Dr. Ort-Meyer: There is no choice involved here Frantz. It's either him, or both of you. I understand this is difficult for you Frantz so I've gone to the trouble of making this easier for you. Send him to Colombia, Pablo Ochoa has a feline friend who's hungry for flesh.
Visibly shaking, Frantz turns his back on the insane scientist and sinks with despair to his knees. Torn between his own life or both him and his brothers, he reluctantly drops his head knowing that fighting back is simply futile. It's an amazing dichotomy that he can live with killing and maiming hundreds of people through his life but killing his brother is a step too far for him.
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In the dense, tropical jungles of Colombia, Pablo Ochoa, Fritz Fuchs and an armed entourage are patrolling through a clearing.
Pablo Ochoa: If you keep going this way hombre, you will find a little village with some fine young chocha that'll manage your every desire. Give them one from me eh?
Fritz Fuchs: Danke, Ochoa. I'll be sure to. I'll be back.
Or will he? Ochoa and his entourage head back the way they came while Fritz continues armed with a gun through to the next clearing. Out of nowhere, Jungle God tears out of the foliage like a yellow bullet and pounces on the unaware Fritz. The poor Austrian didn't stand a chance. Tearing his throat out, blood spurts over the foliage and soon nothing remains of the poor Austrian.
DEAD: Day 2, Branden Harvey, Fritz Fuchs, Syndicate Sibling[/color]
NIGHT PHASE IS NOW IN SESSION.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Apr 4, 2012 5:34:52 GMT -4
HITMAN: MAFIA
LOOSE ENDS
NIGHT TWO
”Hello 47, Diana here. Your client was absolutely delighted to learn that your hit on Ivan Zilvanovich was a sterling success and already his people are working on a price and a place for Arkadij Jegorov. However, there's a more pressing issue at hand. It turns out you weren't as discrete at the Kuga as we'd hoped. You were in fact spotted by Lee Hong's personal bodyguard, Zun. We need you to take him out before he leaves back for Hong Kong. Otherwise he will inform the rest of The Syndicate of your presence. Hurry 47, you don't have time to waste.
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At Rotterdam International Airport, Zun is currently washing his hands in a bathroom sink only to catch 47's reflection behind him. The enraged titan whirls around in fear only to find Agent 47's trademark silenced Silverballers out.
Zun: You bastard.
Agent 47: You're an asset. You need eliminating.
With a bullet between his eyes, the brute of a man falls and smashes into the mirror and sink behind him. His blood smears on the glass as he sinks lower and lower to a heap on the floor. He didn't stand a chance.
DEAD: Gubayama, Zun, Syndicate Bodyguard (NIGHT 2)
A New Day Phase Has Begun..
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Post by Michael Callahan on Apr 4, 2012 5:35:20 GMT -4
Let Day 3 commence...
ALIVE PLAYERS:
1. Atken
2. Blade
3. Chaz Dillinger
4. CJ Gates
5. James V
6. Julius Farquhar
7. Kris
8. Knuckles
9. Level One
10. President Jeff
11. Sally Talfourd
12. T-Marv
DEAD PLAYERS:
1. Michael Callahan, Sen. Michael Callahan, Syndicate Governor (NIGHT X)
2. Kurt Noble, Ivan Zilvanovich, Syndicate Thief (NIGHT 1)
3. Branden Harvey, Fritz Fuchs, Syndicaate Sibling (DAY TWO)
4. Gubayama Takagi, Zun, Syndicate Bodyguard (NIGHT TWO)
Day 3 will officially close at 10:00AM GMT on 7th of April, 2012 (72 hours). With twelve players left standing, it takes seven to lynch.
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Post by SalTal on Apr 4, 2012 5:58:14 GMT -4
Called Takagi's death. He gave away way enough information to tell us that he was either the doctor or a bodyguard. I'm guessing he protected L1, as requested - so I imagine you've used up a life, Level!
Anyway, I was expecting Kris' death as per the terms of a sibling's link. I mean, unless it was modified. What's also usual is that it's a town and a scum linked.
Based on the fact that Kris *didn't* did, I'm not so prepared to throw a vote on her as being scum because the progression is unusual. But I'm keeping it in mind.
Anyway, what information does everyone else have?
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Post by Phil Atken on Apr 4, 2012 8:06:02 GMT -4
Sorry for completely missing the past few days. Ended up being a bit ill, think I must've ate something bad when I was watching Mania so sadly online mafia wasn't a priority. Going to try and catch up now.
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 4, 2012 8:15:25 GMT -4
Wow... Got no clue what to make of my role!
If there is an investigator out there, one that is sane... somebody needs to check out Blade tonight to see if my reading was correct or not.
I have a bunch of one shots, but as my flavor alludes too and my night 1 results allude too, they can't exactly be trusted too much....and apparently they are random. To avoid killing the town tonight, I think I'm just not gonna send in an action unless I'm sure the person is Scum.
Now, on to Kris....
If Branden was a Sibling... there's a good chance that Kris is Scum. I've seen many games where one sibling was mafia, one was town. However, with the flavor of this game, I am not 100% sure that's a fact.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 4, 2012 9:04:49 GMT -4
If Kris is Branden's sibling, meaning she would be Franz Fuchs (per Jules' list on page 3), why didn't she allude to it when the heat was on her? Or did I miss where she hinted at it? Or did she not know? Because Harvey seemed to know, saying he and her were connected, but she instead just called him out to be scum and was trying to throw him under the bus.
That's what doesn't add up to me.
Did anyone look into her last night? Or do anything that we have any sort of information to go off of? TMarv seems confused with his role so can't exactly trust his information to go for a lynch.
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 4, 2012 9:14:21 GMT -4
I am very confused with my role. Apearently, Callahan decided to have some fun with me or something. But if somebody can confirm my investigation on Blade then I'll at least know that my night actions are at least providing correct results, even if they don't do what I think they're gonna do.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 4, 2012 10:39:45 GMT -4
Called Takagi's death. He gave away way enough information to tell us that he was either the doctor or a bodyguard. I'm guessing he protected L1, as requested - so I imagine you've used up a life, Level! Anyway, I was expecting Kris' death as per the terms of a sibling's link. I mean, unless it was modified. What's also usual is that it's a town and a scum linked. Based on the fact that Kris *didn't* did, I'm not so prepared to throw a vote on her as being scum because the progression is unusual. But I'm keeping it in mind. Anyway, what information does everyone else have? Typically, the sibling would die when the other was killed, however that didn't happen. ALSO, I think the siblings usually have one mafia and one town among them or at least that's what I've read. If we look at this, coupled with Kris getting really defensive when Branden voted for her, and right now, she still seems like the best lynch. |
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 4, 2012 11:07:43 GMT -4
Perhaps it was a one sided kinda thing? I played a game where the Town sib knew about the mafia but not vice versa. And the town had to keep the other alive or he died as well.
Idk that this is the case, just pointing it out.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 4, 2012 11:54:28 GMT -4
Hm, very interesting. I don't feel too bad about losing Harvey, but Gubamaya seemed like he was going to bring something valuable to the game.
Siblings. The fact that the other one didn't die isn't really throwing me off as much as it should. The likeliness of two TOWN aligned siblings dying when killed is highly likely. The likeliness of one TOWN aligned sibling and one MAFIA aligned sibling dying once one of them is killed is less likely.
If the mafia was to kill Harvey, they'd also lose Kris assuming she's scum? I'm not saying it can't be done... but we only lost one town sibling. That is highly suspect and leads me to believe it's because both aren't town.
Vote: Kris
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Post by Phil Atken on Apr 4, 2012 14:03:30 GMT -4
The Kris thing is bizarre to me because as other have discussed, in a normal mafia set-up the siblings would know who each other are but there's nothing from Kris' reactions that would indicate that. I think before we go all lynch happy with Kris, we should hear from her because something isn't quite adding up here
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Post by Jules on Apr 4, 2012 14:13:11 GMT -4
I visited Kris last night. She didn't do anything, but that doesn't clear her as scum. She isn't hitman (or any role that has killing power) though, but then the write-up confirms that anyway (well if we can take Harvey's claim he was linked to Kris at face value. Given his behaviour I still have some semblance of doubt about that man's credibility).
Right now I don't have anything else to add. I'll take a look through things and when I have some time to ponder I may have more to add.
My FoS on Kris remains, but like Atken I am going to wait until she has her say, and we get all of the information gathered during the night.
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Kris
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Post by Kris on Apr 4, 2012 15:39:31 GMT -4
Are (Or would it be were since he's now dead, in-game? Not sure.) Branden and I connected?
Yes, although I didn't know it.
What I do know, though, is that his death has given me a one-shot ability that I need to point in the right direction to be beneficial, so... yeah. If someone could point me in the direction that y'all want me to go-- toward actual scum, since I stand by my assertion that I am town and the flavor will back me up on that, if you look closely enough--I'll make up for how I blew up on Branden.
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Post by Blade on Apr 4, 2012 16:42:06 GMT -4
The way I understand things is that if you two were lovers the other would die in the same or next phase. That is not the case.
A sibling connection is usually one town, one mafia.
I really think Branden has set you up perfectly and his death has actually brought us some good
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 4, 2012 17:22:13 GMT -4
Called Takagi's death. He gave away way enough information to tell us that he was either the doctor or a bodyguard. I'm guessing he protected L1, as requested - so I imagine you've used up a life, Level! Anyway, I was expecting Kris' death as per the terms of a sibling's link. I mean, unless it was modified. What's also usual is that it's a town and a scum linked. Based on the fact that Kris *didn't* did, I'm not so prepared to throw a vote on her as being scum because the progression is unusual. But I'm keeping it in mind. Anyway, what information does everyone else have? Typically, the sibling would die when the other was killed, however that didn't happen. ALSO, I think the siblings usually have one mafia and one town among them or at least that's what I've read. If we look at this, coupled with Kris getting really defensive when Branden voted for her, and right now, she still seems like the best lynch. Alright something isn't adding up for me here. If they were connected then Kris would be dead now which means that either Kris isn't the sibling or it's a set up. I think there's a set up being done right now and Kris is the clear target of it hence I'm still in skeptic mode about this entire situation. Hm, very interesting. I don't feel too bad about losing Harvey, but Gubamaya seemed like he was going to bring something valuable to the game. Siblings. The fact that the other one didn't die isn't really throwing me off as much as it should. The likeliness of two TOWN aligned siblings dying when killed is highly likely. The likeliness of one TOWN aligned sibling and one MAFIA aligned sibling dying once one of them is killed is less likely. If the mafia was to kill Harvey, they'd also lose Kris assuming she's scum? I'm not saying it can't be done... but we only lost one town sibling. That is highly suspect and leads me to believe it's because both aren't town. Vote: KrisKris didn't do anything last night as stated by Jules which leads me to believe that Kris is most likely vanilla town and is telling the truth about the one-shot abilities. However L-1 pushing the lynch in this post is really setting off some alarm bells in me. It seems too convenient. Like I said I smell a set up and I firmly believe Kris to be town despite all of the evidence to the contrary. It's very unusual. Going to have to go back and look at everything but I do believe Kris is town. However right now I think we need to make a list of cleared players and go from there. |
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Post by Kris on Apr 4, 2012 17:34:19 GMT -4
Day three of living in Inaba... and already the American has found her favorite spot.
That's something I don't get myself, JamesV-- just why Lester's so desperate to lynch me. I mean, he always fiercely defends himself, right? And he's done so to similar levels as I did against Branden in the past, even in the face of "just one vote". When he does it, it's perfectly legitimate and should be believed, but when someone else does it? Why, they're scum and need to be lynched!
...except how I'm not scum, and no amount of posturing on anyone's part is going to change that.
Furthermore, the only "evidence" against me is a lie-- a lie which was confessed to!-- and me losing my temper in the face of said idiotic lie. I mean, if we're talking about past gameplay, me losing my cool is about the best proof of me being town that there is since if I were scum? I'd be laying low right now, contributing enough to seem credible without drawing too much attention to myself.
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Post by Blade on Apr 4, 2012 17:34:40 GMT -4
Typically, the sibling would die when the other was killed, however that didn't happen. ALSO, I think the siblings usually have one mafia and one town among them or at least that's what I've read. If we look at this, coupled with Kris getting really defensive when Branden voted for her, and right now, she still seems like the best lynch. Alright something isn't adding up for me here. If they were connected then Kris would be dead now which means that either Kris isn't the sibling or it's a set up. I think there's a set up being done right now and Kris is the clear target of it hence I'm still in skeptic mode about this entire situation. Not necessarily. The link that Jeff has for the newbie guide here is the flash one which is www.sitesled.com/members/mikeburnfire/mafiascum04.swfand to quote the sibling role "The siblings are comprised of one pro-mafia player and one pro-town player (usually a copy). If one of them dies, then the other commits suicide the following night" So unless this is an Uber modified role, kris claiming to have new found 1-shots doesnt make sense |
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Post by Kris on Apr 4, 2012 17:38:41 GMT -4
...ignore the top line. I wrote that post up in a Notepad file I thought I'd cleared, eheh. Looks like I didn't!
*unapologetic Persona 4 RPer*
<.<
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 4, 2012 17:39:17 GMT -4
Why is me voting for Kris suspicious?
Harvey said he's connected with Kris. He flipped Fritz. I looked at the flavour and Fritz has a brother Franz.
Harvey says he misred his role and thought he had to lynch Kris (thinking he was a lyncher) but was actually just his sibling in the game.
That's where he got Kris's name from. That has answered the question I've been asking all day phase.
What is this so called ''set up'' your speaking about? Harvey got his dumb ass lynched.
There is no question, Kris is Franz. Whether or not she's scum aligned or town aligned is the question and I explicitly have stated why I think she's scum aligned.
If Kris is town why didn't she die? And what would be the point of her role considering she acted as if she had no idea her and branden were related?
Farq's info is valid but not fool proof. Kris was a prime suspect yesterday and could have opted out not to use her power role if she had one.
Your defence of her has drawn suspicion in my eyes.
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