MISFITS GAME THREAD [NOW PLAYING, DAY 5]

[C.J. Gates]

EWOP:

I'm not saying he did, because if he did that would suck, but it wouldn't just be...frustratingly comical if he did have a jailkeeper role and used it on Knuckles.

[President Jeff]

Apr 15, 2012 10:29:38 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

I'm shocked Knuckles hasn't come on to speak yet, so maybe Gubayama silenced Knuckles? Which would really suck because that's what we're all waiting for, really, to go forward with.

Knuckles hasn't been silence, he was the first to post in this day Phase. Knuckles just hasn't been online since late last night to post anything

[C.J. Gates]

Lol, I actually should have known he's posted since I actually responded to him in a post of my own.

Well, then...I'll throw this out there. Not to pull away from Knuckles, since he is our best lead, but does anyone have anything else to go off of from night actions?

[Jules]

Could you clarify something for me.

1. You said you haven't been active because L1 forgot to send you your role. Does this mean you didn't know your role throughout the whole of day 1? When exactly did you receive your role?

Your answer to this question should in turn clarify this statement

2.

Apr 15, 2012 9:21:18 GMT -4 Gubayama Takagi said:

Now, I noticed that another question came into play. "How did no one die last night?" Very interesting, indeed. Personally, I think the town was successful in whatever they did, but I suspect some are thinking my inactivity has something to do with it. Actually, no, it doesn't. If anything, I was involved in last night's activity, and I successfully silenced a player.

[Jules]

EBWOP

How negligent of me. That post above is directed at Gubayama.

[Gubayama Takagi]

No, he sent it to me sometime during Day 1. However, there was a full day or so I didn't visit the site, so when I did discover it, it was during the beginning hours of the night phase. So I just did my thing and ta-da, that's how I came to be.

[C.J. Gates]

So would it be correct to assume that you didn't visit the site from when the game started to when you returned to see your role but it was night one? I'm just thinking that if you were around when the game started but didn't get a role, you probably would have sent a PM to Level One asking why you hadn't gotten a role while others had and were playing...

[Reaver]

i go to sleep and wake up to this shit! LOL WOW.....(slept about 9 hrs or so)

first off.....i wanna see wat PROOF noble has that says im a "biter" and y his info is so "truthful" to everybody else and nobody has questioned it. not only that, kris was the first to accept this (not so much sally) and immediately jumped on the chance to point fingers.

doesnt anybody else feel this is suspect?

second....can L-O confirm his mistake with GUB? (too lazy to type that sorry man) pretty coincidental that he wasnt mod killed but maybe L-O can shine some lite here.

finally.....as far as my actions last nite, they were inconclusive since i was "unsuccessful" if people can take the hint. so thats y i dunno where noble got the "biting" thing from. sounds like to me that somebody is role fishing. could it be that noble wasnt the only person who targeted me?

and y the hell would i, of all people, be anybody's target on nite 1? since when am i a strong enuff player to be considered that much of a threat? LOL im flattered really but i think its "coincidental" that im thrown under the bus like this by 2 people and the rest try and figure things out instead wouldnt u agree?

i refuse to point fingers until we got ALL the info from people who havnt checked in on day 2. and y would it matter if i was the first to post on day 2 or not? again, this sounds fishy to me that i would be attacked for being first to say anything.

[Gubayama Takagi]

Apr 15, 2012 11:06:29 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

So would it be correct to assume

Yes, basically.

[Jules]

Apr 15, 2012 11:24:12 GMT -4 Reaver said:

i go to sleep and wake up to this shit! LOL WOW.....(slept about 9 hrs or so)

first off.....i wanna see wat PROOF noble has that says im a "biter" and y his info is so "truthful" to everybody else and nobody has questioned it. not only that, kris was the first to accept this (not so much sally) and immediately jumped on the chance to point fingers.

doesnt anybody else feel this is suspect?

second....can L-O confirm his mistake with GUB? (too lazy to type that sorry man) pretty coincidental that he wasnt mod killed but maybe L-O can shine some lite here.

finally.....as far as my actions last nite, they were inconclusive since i was "unsuccessful" if people can take the hint. so thats y i dunno where noble got the "biting" thing from. sounds like to me that somebody is role fishing. could it be that noble wasnt the only person who targeted me?

and y the hell would i, of all people, be anybody's target on nite 1? since when am i a strong enuff player to be considered that much of a threat? LOL im flattered really but i think its "coincidental" that im thrown under the bus like this by 2 people and the rest try and figure things out instead wouldnt u agree?

i refuse to point fingers until we got ALL the info from people who havnt checked in on day 2. and y would it matter if i was the first to post on day 2 or not? again, this sounds fishy to me that i would be attacked for being first to say anything.

Crikey Knuckles, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something? Feeling a bit vulnerable and defensive there, mate?

As far as I am aware nobody is pointing any fingers, a few of us are asking questions but there hasn't even been a FoS laid down, nevermind a sniff of a vote.

That said, this post is raising a few alarms in my head. It's way too defensive when nobody has pointed the finger at you. You've tried to discredit Noble looking at you, if he did, by playing yourself down. That isn't a refutation of the information, just some empty rhetoric. Not to mention a fair bit of finger pointing yourself (deflection tactic maybe). The 'inconclusive' claim I'm intrigued about and it seems this will be the main point of conflict going forward (I'm always suspicious when someone who feels under pressure plays the 'inconclusive' card). On top of all of that you are usually one of the most aggressive players in the game, so this sudden caution seems odd to me.

It's still early and there is still plenty of time and plenty of info to be passed on, but atm this post has most piqued my interest.

[Jules]

Apr 15, 2012 11:38:08 GMT -4 Gubayama Takagi said:

Apr 15, 2012 11:06:29 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

So would it be correct to assume

Yes, basically.

What the heck is this?

Maybe I am being dim here, but any chance you could be a little less vague with your posts. Are you trying to be flippant here, or are you responding to C.J.'s question in full?

If the latter, for the benefit of stickler's of clarity such as myself, please quote it in full so I know exactly what you are referring to.

[Kurt]

Apr 15, 2012 11:24:12 GMT -4 Reaver said:

i go to sleep and wake up to this shit! LOL WOW.....(slept about 9 hrs or so)

first off.....i wanna see wat PROOF noble has that says im a "biter" and y his info is so "truthful" to everybody else and nobody has questioned it. not only that, kris was the first to accept this (not so much sally) and immediately jumped on the chance to point fingers.

doesnt anybody else feel this is suspect?

second....can L-O confirm his mistake with GUB? (too lazy to type that sorry man) pretty coincidental that he wasnt mod killed but maybe L-O can shine some lite here.

finally.....as far as my actions last nite, they were inconclusive since i was "unsuccessful" if people can take the hint. so thats y i dunno where noble got the "biting" thing from. sounds like to me that somebody is role fishing. could it be that noble wasnt the only person who targeted me?

and y the hell would i, of all people, be anybody's target on nite 1? since when am i a strong enuff player to be considered that much of a threat? LOL im flattered really but i think its "coincidental" that im thrown under the bus like this by 2 people and the rest try and figure things out instead wouldnt u agree?

i refuse to point fingers until we got ALL the info from people who havnt checked in on day 2. and y would it matter if i was the first to post on day 2 or not? again, this sounds fishy to me that i would be attacked for being first to say anything.

Oh Knuckles...you make me smile.

First off, I can't show you "proof." Quoting PM's isn't allowed, so I suppose you're asking for someone to back up what I'm saying, which is highly unlikely after only 1 night of play. But, the write-up clearly reflects someone biting someone else. That proof enough for you?

I never called you dangerous or labeled you as Mafia/third-party. I asked you to explain your ability of being able to bite someone. No one has laid down a vote at your expense, and instead have just asked you to explain...and instead, you've gone into "this is suspicious" mode. Seems like you've got something to hide Knuckles...

And since roles are totally random, don't give me that "I'm not a threat" explanation. Anyone can be a threat...just so happens I chose to watch you and got lucky.

Literally no one had accused you of anything...but now that you're throwing up red flags, diverting attention and instantly trying to quell my information as false, you're looking awfully sweaty right now.

Tell you what Knuckles, I'm going to sweeten the pot. I'm going to tell the town who you successfully bit, because even if for some reason if got bus driven or something of the sort, I got a clear name of who was bitten. Didn't want to play that card just yet because I had to see just how much they were worth protecting. Apparently... a lot.

Knuckles bit Blade. I watched him do it last night (that enough of a claim for you?)

First I believe we should handle you... then we can handle Blade. I'll happily retract my vote if new info arises, but hey...I'm sure you'll accept that right off the bat, right?

Vote: Knuckles

Oh, and doctor/bodygurd definitely needs to protect me tonight.

[Gubayama Takagi]

Apr 15, 2012 11:44:46 GMT -4 Jules said:

What the heck is this? are you responding to C.J.'s question in full?

Yes, pretty much. I don't care for quoting entire posts. Sorry if it baffles you.

[Reaver]

how was that overly defensive when i laughed it off? that doesnt make sense to me...

i thought i was pretty fair in my reasoning and i certainly didnt point fingers. i just dont appreciate being attacked for posting first is all. i play aggressively because (like my character) even if i sacrifice myself to help the town then i win. i dont care if im lynched as long as it furthers the town. if anybody wants to check me (if thats possible) that can but i dont have the ability to bite anybody. again, i refuse to throw a vote on anybody until we get more info from those who havnt shown up yet.

but at least i was able to make noble smile (mission accomplished)

[Reaver]

ebwop...

"they can" not "that can"

[Jules]

In light of my last post and Noble's most recent.

Vote: Knuckles

It's a definite lead now and Noble is too experienced a player of this game to lie about something like this, knowing that if Knuckles flips town he will have hung himself in the process.

[Smash INC]

Derailment incoming since Kurt just hit a GOLDMINE assuming his info is solid, I have no reason to believe it isn't considering Knuckles' reaction and the way Kurt handled today.

But voting Knuckles now is a bad idea considering what happened in the night.

I've quoted the relevant part.

Apr 14, 2012 18:31:26 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Shannon: Sorry, I hate to have to do this but...

Shannon goes to bite her victim who looks squarely in her eyes.

Rachel: You don't need to behave like this. You could be so much better.

Suddenly, Shannon's bloodlust comes to an end as she dismounts her prey and helps her up to her feet.

Shannon: I'm sorry about that – I don't know what got into me.

Rachel smiles innocently.

Rachel: Have you ever been to church?

If we are to assume Knuckles is the zombie/biter, he chose the CULT RECRUITER on the first night!

Blade is FAR more dangerous as a recruiter than Knuckles as a recruitee and this would drop the cult quick and easy before they have a chance to recruit again.

Vote: Blade

[Nathaniel Havok]

Just read every post to catch up... The only observations I have right now, are about the game, and knuckles. Glad no one is dead yet, but knuckles seems to be getting a little jittery with accusations being thrown his way. Sounded like a combination of being called out, and no night kill. But that could just be an observation, and not actually fact. As far as my role goes, I have absolutely zero to offer this game. No actions whatsoever. So I'm just sitting back and will continue to watch.

[Reaver]

Apr 15, 2012 9:21:18 GMT -4 Gubayama Takagi said:

Role confirmed, L-1

Well, this certainly is strange. So, as I read in several posts, some are wondering how I managed to dodge posting my confirmation post without getting either replaced or mod-killed. As crazy as it sounds, L-1 apparently forgot to send me my role. Or, rather, he thought he did, but when he checked his outbox, he saw he never sent me one at all. Which is why I've been quiet all this time. But then, he did send me my role, but when I discovered it, we already began the first night phase. So here I am just barely confirming my role.

Now, I noticed that another question came into play. "How did no one die last night?" Very interesting, indeed. Personally, I think the town was successful in whatever they did, but I suspect some are thinking my inactivity has something to do with it. Actually, no, it doesn't. If anything, I was involved in last night's activity, and I successfully silenced a player.

I would drop more knowledge but if the last game taught me anything, never say too much without certainty of benefiting the town. My removal did not benefit anyone, nor would it here.

this just sounds way too convenient to me. people r throwing me under the bus when this has been ur first post. wheres L-O?

[C.J. Gates]

Gub - Can't be bothered to quote full posts, makes me kind of laugh, since it's one button you have to hit.

Knuckles - No one is pointing at you for posting first. Noble mentioned you had bitten someone and we were all waiting to hear from you. No votes were thrown on you, just people wanting to hear from you since that was pretty much the only thing we had from the night. The fact that you got defensive because people were waiting for you to speak is what's raising red flags. At least for me it is.

The interesting bit is what Saint added. Though, I'm curious...if Noble says that Knuckles successfully bit Blade and if we are assuming Blade is Rachel...then how come the bite didn't work as Noble said it did? How come the recruitment of Knuckles happened and the bite didn't, per the write up?

[Kurt]

Apr 15, 2012 12:30:26 GMT -4 Reaver said:

how was that overly defensive when i laughed it off? that doesnt make sense to me...

i thought i was pretty fair in my reasoning and i certainly didnt point fingers. i just dont appreciate being attacked for posting first is all. i play aggressively because (like my character) even if i sacrifice myself to help the town then i win. i dont care if im lynched as long as it furthers the town. if anybody wants to check me (if thats possible) that can but i dont have the ability to bite anybody. again, i refuse to throw a vote on anybody until we get more info from those who havnt shown up yet.

but at least i was able to make noble smile (mission accomplished)

You threw some suspicion at Gubayama's feet to detract from your own heat. And literally no one attacked you for posting first... if you look at it, we were trying to figure out who was silenced, and CJ mentioned you, forgetting that you had already posted. That literally was it.

Oh, and FOS: Gubayama

I have a hard time believing a role that allows someone to be silenced to be a town role. It certainly *does* disrupt information flow because what if you hit someone with an investigation role, and then they can't share their findings? Or worse...what if you had hit Knuckles...or hit Blade? We'd be sitting here twiddling our thumbs having to take a gut leap. I believe your claim about not getting your role...I just don't know that I believe where you really sit in this game. But, you aren't anywhere close to being the prime suspect for today, and anyone that tries to lynch you today over Knuckles or Blade is trying to stall the game, IMO.

I'm guessing, because of the role-claim rule, you can't tell us who you silenced since it's not investigative...but I'll do a headcount in a minute to check.

Apr 15, 2012 12:56:03 GMT -4 Smash INC said:

Derailment incoming since Kurt just hit a GOLDMINE assuming his info is solid, I have no reason to believe it isn't considering Knuckles' reaction and the way Kurt handled today.

But voting Knuckles now is a bad idea considering what happened in the night.

I've quoted the relevant part.

Apr 14, 2012 18:31:26 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Shannon: Sorry, I hate to have to do this but...

Shannon goes to bite her victim who looks squarely in her eyes.

Rachel: You don't need to behave like this. You could be so much better.

Suddenly, Shannon's bloodlust comes to an end as she dismounts her prey and helps her up to her feet.

Shannon: I'm sorry about that – I don't know what got into me.

Rachel smiles innocently.

Rachel: Have you ever been to church?

If we are to assume Knuckles is the zombie/biter, he chose the CULT RECRUITER on the first night!

Blade is FAR more dangerous as a recruiter than Knuckles as a recruitee and this would drop the cult quick and easy before they have a chance to recruit again.

Vote: Blade

See, I'm still a bit confused as to the extent they're both dangerous, probably because I've played very few games dealing with third parties. I do know that I got Blade's name after watching Knuckles though, so even if Knuckles got set-up, Blade's name was there.

I'm going to trust your judgment on this one.

Unvote

Vote: Blade

[Johnny Rebel]

I'm inclined to agree with Knuckles here. L1 has been the mod for several games here and doesn't just forget to give people their roles, especially after he was specific about how many roles he was trying to fill.

[Smash INC]

The culted retain danger depending on the flavour of the game.

I'm making the assumption that the flavour of your report was something along the lines of "Knuckles visited Blade to bite them."

As we've seen through the night results, Shannon (the only zombie role *1) visited Rachel (only confirmed cultist) which means Knuckles visited Blade as you say.

What Level's gone and confirmed is that either Blade visited Knuckles in RETURN or had a defensive ability that overrode Knuckles. Both options make Blade the cult recruiter.

Regardless of the game or flavour, the cult recruiter is a known and dangerous quantity. Knuckles as a culted wouldn't have the same powers and would effectively be cut off.

It'd also doubly-confirm you and allow us to focus on getting the mafia (who I can only assume ARE involved because of the rules).

*1 Shannon is the only named zombie within Misfits canon, there are the cheerleaders and the cat but I doubt that Level has gone for minor characters. Shannon was important to the series as a whole even before she appeared in the series for that one episode, the cheerleaders/cat weren't.

As a sidenote, Shannon wasn't a typical zombie in the sense that only those who survived an attack would turn into zombies rather than die and become one. I reckon the zombie role was more of a direct killer than an infector role because of this which lends credence to the cult overriding Knuckles' action.

[Blade]

Give me half an hour to catch up and I will check in properly because I dont like how my name is being thrown around here.

My role was successful, but it had nothing to do with knuckles (at least to my knowledge)

[Kurt]

Apr 15, 2012 13:57:38 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

The interesting bit is what Saint added. Though, I'm curious...if Noble says that Knuckles successfully bit Blade and if we are assuming Blade is Rachel...then how come the bite didn't work as Noble said it did? How come the recruitment of Knuckles happened and the bite didn't, per the write up?

See, that's what I'm wondering. I was told that Blade was successfully bitten, but the bite seems to interrupted in the write-up.

Question Knuckles: You said your night action did not succeed. Were you role-blocked? How do you know it failed if not?

Oh, and the following players have not checked in for Day 2:

Tmarv
JamesV
AC Smith
Jason Royce
Blade

So any one of them could have been silenced. But, it's still somewhat early in the day, so let's see who emerges.

[Reaver]

i was just simply told i was unsuccessful...i dunno wat else to say ya no?

(unrelated)

PS: check the occ i have good news for APW IM EXCITED!!

[Level-Two]

Mod note: I do not wish to interrupt the flow of the game in any way but since it addressed the mod of the game - Gubamaya's role did PM fail to send initially. It was re-sent to him well within the first hour of game play. That's all I can and will confirm in regards to that.

Simon Bellamy: I am going to kill Jesus.

Current vote count:

Blade: 2 (Keaton Saint, Kurt Noble)
Knuckles: 1 (Farquhar)

Not voting: 13 players

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

[Gubayama Takagi]

Apr 15, 2012 13:57:38 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

Gub

I never said I couldn't be bothered to do it. I said I didn't care for it. Oh well.

Anyway, L-1 didn't forget to send me my role. He thought he did but didn't. That was all. I'm sure he'll be happy to clarify with a mere, "yes"

And as far as this witch hunt goes, I will go along with voting Blade as well.

Vote: Blade

Here's hoping there isn't a swerve.

[Blade]

Are we actually looking for a Mafia?

There has yet to be a red name show up in any write up. Only purple, green and teal.

Brain, Rachel and Shannon have all been purple

Shannon started off as teal

Maybe we aren't looking for a mafia at all?

I just want to throw this out there: As there hasn't been a single red name in any write up ... is it possible there are only cults/third parties and no mafia?

And Sally has the same thought, nice.


^^ Personal thoughts from write ups

Apr 14, 2012 18:38:51 GMT -4 Reaver said:

NICE!! nobody is dead......

whoever did wat, GREAT JOB!! keep that shit up!

This post from Knuckles to open the day is full of over excitement, a little too much if you ask me.

Why do you need to declare your joy? Maybe to make it seem like you are town?

Knuckles bit Blade. I watched him do it last night (that enough of a claim for you?)

Really Noble, Really?

I didn't start off in a 3rd party role, and I definitely didn't get turned/bitten last night. I received one PM from L-1 confirming that my night action was successful on the person that I chose to use it on.

I am not 3rd party. I am not a cult recruit/leader and I not a Serial Killer. I am town.

Blade is FAR more dangerous as a recruiter than Knuckles as a recruitee and this would drop the cult quick and easy before they have a chance to recruit again.

Keaton, that would be the best thing to do if it were true, but you are so far off hitting the nail on the head its unbelievable.

See, I'm still a bit confused as to the extent they're both dangerous, probably because I've played very few games dealing with third parties. I do know that I got Blade's name after watching Knuckles though, so even if Knuckles got set-up, Blade's name was there.

I'm going to trust your judgment on this one.

Again Noble, Really? You are a much better player than this.

This is what you are saying...

Noble watched Knuckles supposedly bite me. My name appeared because you watched knuckles. So that would make me a cult recruit right? So you change your vote to me because Keaton says that off the info that I would be the cult recruiter/leader. That makes no sense whatsoever. I think you and Keaton have come up with this plan, quite possibly because the only way you think you can get me out of the game successfully is to get me lynched. Is this because you guys rolecopped me?

The funny thing is, I didnt even target Knuckles.

There would only be 2 reasons why my name would be associated with Knuckles

1) The guy i targetted is a Nexus
2) I was bus Driven

Since I was told that i was successful on the person that I chose to target, I am pretty sure neither of those happened.



So where I am coming from is that My character has failed to show up in ANY of the write ups as of yet.

The person i targeted has yet to check in to this day phase yet.

I believe there is a great possibility that Noble/Saint are working together, but I am not convinced of this yet.

And the fact that Gubby just came in and threw a 3rd vote on me draws even more suspicion.

[Smash INC]

I don't see how you can pair me with Kurt when my basis comes primarily from Level's night result more than anything else.

Yes Kurt "could" be lying but the way he's played today indicates that he is town, Knuckles also had a poor reaction which pushes more credit to a partnership between you and him.

The other option is that you're lying, which from the night result and Kurt's report would confirm you as the cult leader/recruiter. As far as I'm concerned there isn't much of a gamble on my current vote. The evidence is there and anything that isn't solid is strong enough to keep me convinced.

Kurt as a liar doesn't make sense to me and I can't justify it logically, you being a liar makes sense given what I believe from Kurt's report and the confirmed happenings from the night results.

The only thing that really brings it into question is that the biting is stated to be a failure in the night results whilst Kurt has explained that Knuckles actually succeeded unless I've read too much into it.