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Post by Kaji Fireson on Sept 22, 2011 16:30:35 GMT -4
James kicked the can, huh? Well, I think asp has a point in that the mafia is trying to throw blame where it shouldn't be, but that's hardly a brilliant deduction; that's the whole point of a mafia, isn't it?
Still, he might have a point, so I'll need to go back and read up on what James had been saying before he got killed. Expect me back tonight with a vote.
As for his role, I did some research since I'm new and not familiar with roles, and it seems he would only have gotten a kill if he'd been lynched. Being killed in the night does not trigger his special ability.
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Post by Kurt on Sept 22, 2011 17:22:15 GMT -4
Just a quick update since Havok has mentioned me a bit: School's been kicking my ass, so I haven't been as active so far. That'll change today, and I'll have an in-depth post up later.
Havok, I've only had one post since I last posted here (not counting one I made a minute ago). So believe me if you want, but my overall inactivity tells the story.
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Post by Kurt on Sept 22, 2011 17:41:54 GMT -4
EBWOP
Actually was on a bit last night to post my RP, but I think that was it.
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Post by brandenharvey on Sept 22, 2011 19:33:35 GMT -4
I know you're a grad school student so I'm inclined to believe you.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Sept 22, 2011 20:32:57 GMT -4
It's not just about the limited activity. Again I say re-read from page one. People these days, can't seem to follow direction, yo...
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Post by C.J. Gates on Sept 22, 2011 23:31:41 GMT -4
I'm inclined to believe that Noble hasn't really had the time to post. I mean, you're point is that he just stopped posting after you accused him...and that it doesn't factor in inactivity. He very well could be scum but for now I'll let Noble pass and keep my eye on him. Also Nate, since you're new and I'm sure someone will bring it up.. Maybe you need to re-read page one where the rules are (just giving you a hard time lol)
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Post by brandenharvey on Sept 22, 2011 23:51:41 GMT -4
Havok, your reasoning makes no sense.
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Post by Reaver on Sept 23, 2011 0:33:06 GMT -4
my vote stays the same....
Branden Harvey
reason: just based off of what was and has been said since day 1, he has a gun and an itchy trigger finger for jeff and has been pushing for it like no other. it sounds to me that trying to push the envelope this fast must be a way for him to get a quick kill. i still have suspicions for havok just cuz :-p but for now my vote stands.
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Post by Kurt on Sept 23, 2011 0:51:14 GMT -4
I just took Havok's advice and read from page one to get caught up...and here's what I'm getting, in summary form...
I tried to introduce my numbers theory to get conversation going, which it did. You thought I was planting false numbers, so you suspected me (based off your gut). I was inactive on the boards because...well, I'm a college student. I was almost late on my RP and my match. Pretty much every post since you first voted me (I even saw the one where you edited out the vote because it was night), you've been bringing the point back up that you think I'm scum because I'm inactive.
This is going to be a busy weekend for me, but I'll do better to remain active. If you have some kind of investigative role, go ahead and use it on me. I'll happily answer any concerns on the next day of play.
Now, just some things I'm thinking...
- Rebel is town. We typically don't see PR's go to scum players, and even if he is Kash/Branden, neither of them have shown up in the scum players mentioned in the listings. If my original theory of 4 holds water, then one of those characters could be whoever Rebel is acting out, but we won't know it until we see it. Until then, I think we can lean more towards Rebel being town. He's kind of of playing like Biggs did last game.
- I agree with CJ...Blade's kind of hit or miss as far as getting a read. He was hugely inactive when I played scum with him, but every game is different. FOS: Blade
- Honestly (and this is just from my personal experience...), watch people that say "I'm going to wait for further info before voting!" It's one of those phrases that passes as an acceptable post (assuming you add nothing new in the same post), and lets you hop on the lynch wagon later on with little suspicion. We're definitely not going to get reliable night info until at least tomorrow, so today's another blind playing day...kind of like this whole thing with Harvey and Jeff...
I think they're both town. Seriously, they're averting sooooo much attention to themselves. I'm not partaking on a lynch on either of them, because I don't think it's the right play at all.
Seriously, we always lynch the most OBVIOUS person, and it NEVER works. We can do better than that.
Anyone see another player egging on a current event, but not really adding any new insight in the game or said event? Yeah...that's them. That's your scum.
(Hey, longest post! You know what that means)!
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Post by SalTal on Sept 23, 2011 2:57:28 GMT -4
You know, I wasn't really sure who else might be scumming it up, but Kurt's post on Havok is pretty good. Now it would be too obvious for Havok to actually be the Havok in the scenario, so he might well be Sally. Or some other scum that hasn't been named yet. I mean, Havok has been pretty hard on Kurt, even with Kurt having a pretty legit excuse.
Then again, this is your first game, isn't it Havok? You might be suffering from Hart-itis with this. But going so hard on Kurt has you paired with Pence for my mind.
JC not getting mod killed was a bit weird. The first game post appeared on the 16th and then his first post was the 19th. I'm all for busy weekends and that, but that nothing from him? And Lester didn't boot his ass? I don't know - maybe he held off for a reason? You're a veteran of this game, right JC?
Blade is too inactive for my liking. I know he's a bsuy guy and all, but he's not helping by being inactive.
Overall, I want to vote for all of these people, but I'd better throw a vote down sooner or later to at least prove a point ...
Vote: JC
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Post by brandenharvey on Sept 23, 2011 3:36:35 GMT -4
I actually think JC may have been kidnapped or something. That's why he wasn't modkilled.
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Post by Blade on Sept 23, 2011 6:07:25 GMT -4
I am being too inactive for my liking; so let me see what I can add.
Day one was day one. Branden pointing his penis at Jeff again waiting for everyone to bite. Seriously, this get old after a while.
Well from night 1, we know for sure that there are at least 3 scum members. I find it odd that L-1 has revealed this to us. Are there 3 or are there more? Usually the mod will keep one in his back pocket as a surprise, but we know for sure there is
Sally Havok Biggs
Anymore and I see it being over powering to the town.
Day 2; Asp jumps straight in with a vote. Nothing more to it apart from "Who is distracting us?" Then votes for Jeff. Simply a ploy to try and get him eliminated straight off the bat? or he has something?
2 posts in and Harvey jumps straight back on Jeff. Are Asp and Harvey trying to work together? If they are its a stupid way after only 3 posts.
Asp once again tries to use James as cover because James voted for him day 1 and died, then the scum must have tried to frame him right?
Branden still has a hard on for Jeff.
All in all, I think Asp and Branden could eb trying to work together; and If i go by asps reasoning then lets get rid of the distractions.
vote: Branden Harvey
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Sept 23, 2011 8:34:24 GMT -4
Okay so I said I'd vote last night and never did. My apologies, I was trying to work on a match for Equinox.
I took this time before work to read back through the thread, and while I have a few suspects in mind, one in particular stands out due to his contradictory words and actions. He wants Branden gone, then he doesn't want him gone. He thinks Branden is never any help, but then he never votes for him. While it is possible his role prevents him from voting until someone is up for lynching, his words have still been contradictory, and I find it hilarious that he has flip-flopped while railing on Branden for flip-flopping.
And by hilarious I mean dangerous.
Vote: President Jeff
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Post by C.J. Gates on Sept 23, 2011 10:03:49 GMT -4
JC not getting mod killed was a bit weird. The first game post appeared on the 16th and then his first post was the 19th. I'm all for busy weekends and that, but that nothing from him? And Lester didn't boot his ass? I don't know - maybe he held off for a reason? You're a veteran of this game, right JC? This is the same thought I had with Blade. Neither were posting every 24 hours, and neither got mod killed. The rules do say that they will get prodded and if they don't post 24 hours after that they will be mod killed so I can only assume they both got prodded, posted, and then didn't post again that day. Though obviously someone held up the night actions (or a bunch of somones from Lester's mod post earlier this day) so one of JC or Blade could also be town. I'll keep my eye on Blade and VOTE: JCKurt has a point as well. Pence is, in most games, the worse for not really giving any new information, and just kind of repeating what's gone on and very rarely voting. I've also got my FOS on ASP, mainly because he started hammering Kurt because he mentioned how many Mafia there were. Havok piggybacked that, but I find it difficult to vote him without solid proof. I do find it funny how day one, people were willing to see the Harvey/Jeff debate as typical day one, and no one figured to vote for them, but day two everyone changes and sees them as a threat...
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Post by brandenharvey on Sept 23, 2011 10:06:43 GMT -4
I usually change my vote for Jeff after a few hours because it's usually a joke. It was a joke at first with this one as well. But then I began to believe he id legitimatly scum.
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Post by Blade on Sept 23, 2011 10:16:30 GMT -4
I usually change my vote for Jeff after a few hours because it's usually a joke. It was a joke at first with this one as well. But then I began to believe he id legitimatly scum. Whats he done to make you think that?
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Post by Level-Two on Sept 23, 2011 10:17:54 GMT -4
Current vote count
3: President Jeff (Asp, Branden Harvey, Kaji) 2: JC (Sally Talfourd, CJ Gates) 2: Branden Harvey (Knuckles, Blade) 1: Kurt Noble (Nathaniel Havok)
Not voting: Pence, JC, Johnny Rebel, Kurt Noble, President Jeff
With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.
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Post by asp on Sept 23, 2011 12:26:02 GMT -4
I'm beginning to want to change my vote. The two most quiet people in the game are voting for the same person. And then we have another 3 people all grouped together 2: JC (Sally Talfourd, CJ Gates) It's looking quite odd to me now.
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Post by brandenharvey on Sept 23, 2011 17:05:25 GMT -4
Here's why, Blade: Okay, guys. I know I usually remove my vote for Jeff after a few hours but I'm not going to this time. I'll get to my reasoning in a minute. First, I want to talk about you guys saying I'm a weak player. Ask anyone that played DC Superhero Mafia with me over in CWC. Midas and I won MVP of that game. nd it was I who discovered, and voted for, the last scum. Last game I was a weak player simply because I was trying to go off my gut, which I had seen Midas do constantly and he is usually right. Basically, I was trying to play like someone else, but I was less successful at doing it. Now, as for keeping my vote on Jeff, he has been very aggressive in trying to get me lynched, even though I might be town. Then, whenever someone defended me, he went after them. Then, when he was called on it, he said he wanted a no lynch. He accuses me of being flip-floppy but it seems he is much more flip-floppy than I have ever been (except the one game where I was a jester and trying to get lynched). People, I believe Jeff is your scum. I still stand by that.
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Post by Nick Watson on Sept 23, 2011 17:06:24 GMT -4
Hmmm, I'm still on the fence for who to vote for. We really are running on rumors and not really facts, but I guess going with one's gut sometimes has to be done to get something to done and to be quite honest, we need to make a move before we have a similar scenario to the previous mafia game, so I will go ahead and vote...
Vote: JC
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Post by President Jeff on Sept 23, 2011 17:09:44 GMT -4
I still think Branden could be scum. The fact that he's deadset on taking me out and not even considering anyone else as scum, makes me think that he's using that as a distraction to the town to not Lynch him.
I'm assuming theres a cop role in this game, and since no one has stepped up with any info, I'm hoping someone investigated themselves last night and then the next night, investiages me to clear my name.
And I just hope if there is a cop role, that person did send in a night action last night
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Post by asp on Sept 23, 2011 17:12:03 GMT -4
Why would a cop investigate themselves?
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Post by President Jeff on Sept 23, 2011 17:22:27 GMT -4
To see if they are an Insane Cop. An Insane cop if given the wrong info when they investigate some. So lets say for example, your town and an insane cop investiages you, they will get info that your scum. If your an insane cop, you don't know it. The only way to know for sure is if you investigate yourself
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Post by brandenharvey on Sept 23, 2011 17:22:52 GMT -4
I'm not considering anyone else as scum? Kurt might very well be scum. I just think you're scum and, when you're taken out, I can focus on other scummers.
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Post by President Jeff on Sept 23, 2011 17:24:11 GMT -4
I'm not considering anyone else as scum? Kurt might very well be scum. I just think you're scum and, when you're taken out, I can focus on other scummers. And if I'm taken out, thats just one more less town member that the Mafia needs to worry about
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Post by asp on Sept 23, 2011 18:01:16 GMT -4
I think it's a good time to start making a decision. I haven't seen JC doing much in the game, so I'l throw my hat there. If JC ends up being a townie, I guess that would give us a clear picture on who the mafia players are.
VOTE: JC
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Post by Blade on Sept 23, 2011 18:38:17 GMT -4
I think it's a good time to start making a decision. I haven't seen JC doing much in the game, so I'l throw my hat there. If JC ends up being a townie, I guess that would give us a clear picture on who the mafia players are. VOTE: JC# Its ok, I understand. You make no attempt to defend what I said, which makes me further think that you and branden are on the same side
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Post by President Jeff on Sept 23, 2011 18:57:06 GMT -4
ASP, Blade makes a pretty good point. Both you and Branden we're gunning for me, and just as soon as your name gets mentioned as Scum with Branden, you change your vote and don't address Blade.
Very suspecious
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Post by brandenharvey on Sept 23, 2011 19:02:36 GMT -4
That was pretty suspicious, ASP.
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Post by asp on Sept 23, 2011 19:20:42 GMT -4
ASP, Blade makes a pretty good point. Both you and Branden we're gunning for me, and just as soon as your name gets mentioned as Scum with Branden, you change your vote and don't address Blade. Very suspecious I didn't see any post accusing me as scum. The latest thing I read was who everyone was voting for. And then I was looking at who was posting, and who hasn't been posting. I think it's suspicious that when JC gets 5 votes, all of a sudden Blade starts saying that I am suspicious though. Blade didn't care when JC had 4 or 3 votes, but now that JC only needs two more votes, everything is becoming more hectic.
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