APW MAFIA GAME THREAD

[brandenharvey]

I get your point, ASP. But I'm not sure I bite.

[asp]

Okay, so I finally decided to read what Blade said. And to be honest, the entire game is full of people that are teaming up to accuse people. And the reason I first voted for Jeff was because James was talking about everyone distracting eachother, and I figured the faster we got rid of Jeff, the faster we could get on to voting for actual suspicious people. Later, I decided that wasn't a really good strategy, and so I started looking at people who weren't talking, and I saw that there was 4 votes for someone who wasn't talking, so I decided to just get rid of the waste that wasn't really playing, and maybe getting lucky with hanging a mafia player.

[Blade]

No, the entire game isnt full of people trying to team up.

I made a statement as to why you (asp) and Branden had a hard on for Jeff. It was simple.

The fact that you only decided to read my post when questioned.

Okay, so I finally decided to read what Blade said

Your words not mine.

That makes me UBER suspicious of you, now more than Branden.

unvote

vote: asp

[Level-Two]

Asp, please bold ''unvote'' the next time you change your vote. It makes it easier to see who's voting for who and who's switching what vote. Thanks.

Current vote count

4: JC (Sally Talfourd, CJ Gates, Pence, asp)
2: President Jeff (Branden Harvey, Kaji)
1: Branden Harvey (Knuckles)
1: Kurt Noble (Nathaniel Havok)
1: asp (Blade)

Not voting: JC, Johnny Rebel, Kurt Noble, President Jeff

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

[brandenharvey]

L1, I won't be on again until tomorrow night. Don't modkill me.

[Johnny Rebel]

Sept 23, 2011 20:13:17 GMT -4 asp said:

Okay, so I finally decided to read what Blade said. And to be honest, the entire game is full of people that are teaming up to accuse people. And the reason I first voted for Jeff was because James was talking about everyone distracting eachother, and I figured the faster we got rid of Jeff, the faster we could get on to voting for actual suspicious people. Later, I decided that wasn't a really good strategy, and so I started looking at people who weren't talking, and I saw that there was 4 votes for someone who wasn't talking, so I decided to just get rid of the waste that wasn't really playing, and maybe getting lucky with hanging a mafia player.

This bold part is the most suspicious of anything that has been said so far, don't you think? Why would we get rid of someone just for the sake of it? It sounds like to me that you are just grasping at straws and bring to get anyone lynched, doesn't it? Hey, why is everything so hazy? Can I take a nap now?

VOTE: ASP



*Edited to include vote.

[asp]

Ha, I can't wait to see the look on Joe's legs when you guys kill me.

[C.J. Gates]

Sept 23, 2011 21:48:26 GMT -4 asp said:

Ha, I can't wait to see the look on Joe's legs when you guys kill me.

So quick to give up? You have 2 votes against you, yet you're talking like it's a foregone conclusion that you are going to die.

[SalTal]

We need to come to an agreement on a lynch today. If we don't, the day has been useless. No new info has come out (thanks role-people!) and so we are still stumbling around in the dark.

We got to five votes on JC (right?), but we're now at four. He's still got the most votes, which makes him the nearest to lynching. It's interesting that he hasn't come out to defend himself. That, to me, seems to indicate that he's just inactive/detained rather than actually trying to be a low-lying scum.

Which leaves us with a problem: Do we vote him out because he's not helping or do we turn our attention to the next most lynch-able (that being ASP or Jeff - though I don't consider Jeff to be scum)?

On one hand, because we don't have any new information it might be better to go on the inactive purely because they aren't contributing anything. It takes away a distraction for the role-people. They don't have to investigate him down the track, and the vote count doesn't stay artificially high (I say 'artificially' because if we don't lynch someone, it's one extra player in the game, and that means seven to lynch again next round, rather than six).

However, it seems that he might not be scum (again, based on the fact that he's not actually defending himself as of now). I mean, I'd say with 80% confidence that he's town now. So we're probably lynching a townie.

Now, this is going to be flip-floppy but (I feel) in line with what I've brought to this game. But I really feel we need to lynch someone today based on the best reasoning (because we really don't have evidence).

Unvote: JC

If the people remaining with JC stay and it gets one or two votes away from JC ending up lynched that I'll get back on him. But, as we need to go with the next lynch-able and with the best reason ...

Vote: ASP

... for the reasons outlined previously. With that said, I am relying mainly on Blade here, as he's actually made the case for ASP. If ASP gets lynched and turns up dead, I'm leaning heavily towards Blade (though ASP might just be new at all this as well and Blade has misread him).

[asp]

lol, no I was watching Family Guy when I read that I got a second vote. I just wanted to lighten the mood because I felt it was getting a little too tense around here.

I just don't want to go and be like, "But I'm not mafia!" Because that's what a mafia person would say. On the other hand, that's exactly what a non-mafia person would say also.

[asp]

Correction, 3rd vote.

[SalTal]

What you might want to do, ASP, is put together a case against someone that is suspicious to you (and it would help if they had votes on them - just saying). For example:

Jeff: Has seemed to be flip-floppy on Branden (who was hard on him). He might have left him alive for day two purely because it would be too obvious that Jeff killed him in the first night. He hasn't voted at all - which is probably a role-based thing ... but it could be him pretending to have a role. He also seems scummy in that he is being very active but not necessarily helpful; ie. he has been putting together a case against Branden over and over again which could be cover for scum associates to do their thing.

Put something together to convince everyone that voting for someone else is a better alternative than voting for you. You can say you're not scum, but the best thing to do is make everyone/enough people to prevent enough votes getting on you think that someone else is scummy.

[jc]

Yes Sally, I have played this game before, but I wouldn't necessarily call myself a veteran. To be honest though, I don't know what that has to do with me not being mod killed. I also don't know why I wasn't, or why you think that not getting mod killed would make me scum. What I can tell you is that everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that the deadline for night actions was extended and Lester said that only one person sent one in. Now, with a group this size I'm pretty sure we are not all vanilla.

So that being said, and since everyone keeps asking what information people have, I will admit to not turning in my action on time. I will also admit that I used it on James to see if he visited anyone and he didn't.

It's all the info I have but it really doesn't help much since he got killed.

[Reaver]

ill go on record of saying sorry as well sally, i really wasnt sure how it was gonna go down. this next nite i promise to fix that.

also.....

lets be honest, we need to get this shit going cuz time is running out and getting us to agree on who to vote for is just taking more time away from figuring out who the scum/scums really is/are. if ya noticed the most on who has been saying what, it seems to me that suspicions belong to harvey, rebel, asp thus far. (just my opinion) look at all the confusion and smoke screens they have caused. my vote stands.

[SalTal]

Sept 24, 2011 0:52:49 GMT -4 jc said:

To be honest though, I don't know what that has to do with me not being mod killed.

It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being modkilled, but, rather, a gameplay. A person more experienced in the game would be able to keep a level head long enough to not have to check in on the game obsessively (like new people do), and would be able to commit to that style of play.

I also don't know why I wasn't, or why you think that not getting mod killed would make me scum.

Perhaps you checked into a QT thread? Perhaps you've being doing all your talking there and, through that, Lester knew that you were active. Then he didn't need to modkill you? He knew you were active.

But I'm over all that. I (largely) believe that you're town and that your allusion to a role is most likely legit.

[Kaji Fireson]

Note: THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL LIST. I'm just posting it for my sake to keep up with who's voting what.

3: JC (CJ Gates, Pence, asp)
3: asp (Blade, Rebel, Sally)
2: President Jeff (Branden Harvey, Kaji)
1: Branden Harvey (Knuckles)
1: Kurt Noble (Nathaniel Havok)

Not voting: JC, Kurt, Jeff

Deadline is tonight at nine, or whenever Lester gets on to call things. We have twelve hours (or so) to decide whether we're lynching JC, Asp, or someone else. We don't have a clear cut winner, however, Jeff's actions since day 2 dawned have convinced me that he is not scum, or if scum, at least not the scummiest of the scum. I agree that we need a day two lynch, and of Asp and JC, who do you pick? Inactive not helping, or active and suspicious? JC seems to be coming around, so...

Unvote: Jeff

Vote: Asp

[asp]

Well I personally still think the suspicious people are the one's that aren't talking much, and when they do, they talk about how I am suspicious. And to be honest, to people who have played the game a lot, I might be suspicious, but I really don't know how to look suspicious since this is my first time playing. But I know what's going on, since everything is focused on me, the mafia players are now totally blended in with the townies.
I think the smart thing to do would be to look at who stopped talking when things started getting heated up. I know Noble would probably talk about how busy it is in school, or other mafia players would talk about how they haven't been around because of work. But all of us have to do these kinds of things and still stay active. And I still think it's suspicious that JC has around as many votes as I do, and he hasn't defended himself at all yet.

[asp]

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure if I'm allowed to share this piece of information, but I think I better get it out there before something tragic happens to me lol.

Harvey posted on a QT that I'm a apart of, and then deleted it, and he said that he posted it on the wrong QT board. I'm not sure what it was about, but it was sensitive enough for him to delete it. Anywho, just wanted to share that before tonight incase I get voted for.

[SalTal]

Unvote: ASP

Because of what he just posted.

Now I'm plum out of prime suspects. I'm back to thinking Pence now.

[Nick Watson]

Well with that tid-bit of information from JC, I do believe that I can more than likely see that he is not a scum, and because of his post he is not truly inactive anymore...so! That means that I'm going to have to look a bit more and as I can truly see where some people are coming from, I'm going to go ahead, and send out a vote. Bare with me folks because flippity floppiting is going to reign supreme for the final hours of this day!

Unvote: JC

Vote: ASP

This latest post from ASP is sort of...weird. I mean can we really trust his information at all? I'm leaning toward "no" because there is no way that we can find out he is telling the truth at all, which is quite sad. Plus, this just another rumor, and more than likely just him trying to throw us off his own scummy scent. Plus all of the other points about ASP so far have been rather solid, so why not get this lynch out of the way? If he is a town, we have done goofed, and if he is scum then we have taken our first step to victory. So...for now my vote will stand with ASP until he actually releases something of merit instead of saying: "Well Branden deleted something on a QT forum!" and then hoping everyone believes him.

[Nick Watson]

Are you really going to believe that Sally? That is extremely flippty floppity of you! I mean, for all we could of known he could have been talking about bacon and just thought it was the "Bacon QT forum", but I guess that is just your opinion...we will see what happens with this lynch (because we honestly need one by tonight). Oh and if Branden deleted a message wouldn't that make him the prime suspect? Or am I to put you as his accomplice? Hmm? I got my eyes on you Sally...even when you think you are alone...I'm there with a foot massager and a back scratcher.

[Kurt]

Sept 24, 2011 9:52:17 GMT -4 asp said:

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure if I'm allowed to share this piece of information, but I think I better get it out there before something tragic happens to me lol.

Harvey posted on a QT that I'm a apart of, and then deleted it, and he said that he posted it on the wrong QT board. I'm not sure what it was about, but it was sensitive enough for him to delete it. Anywho, just wanted to share that before tonight incase I get voted for.

Does this throw up enormous red flags for anyone else?

Let's look at roles have typically have QT's...

- Mafia
- 2nd Mafia
- Third Party (cult, etc.)
- Mason perhaps?

If I'm forgetting one, someone please let me know.

Any of the first 3 pretty much earns you a lynch. The only thing about you being a mason is that no one is coming to your defense saying "Hey, through night info, I know he's town!" If you had Mason buddies, wouldn't one of them do so? Unless it was James, but he wasn't a Mason...

You can't roleclaim, so I don't expect you to... but man, it's just weird to me that you voted Jeff at first, and then when the vote started gravitating towards JC, you hoped on the lynch wagon for JC just because he's been quiet. I'm not saying that's it's suspicious you voted for him, but voting for him just because's he's quiet, and the opportunity presented itself, screams scum to me.

In my very first mafia game, want to know what my strategy was? Take out the quiet ones. It's like a free strategy because really, who's going to oppose it? Everyone plays the game differently, but that's a strategy I always liked using when I've played scum.

You can't at first want to eliminate the distractions (Jeff), and then eliminate someone who isn't a distraction (JC) without drawing attention to yourself.

"And I saw that there was 4 votes for someone who wasn't talking, so I decided to just get rid of the waste that wasn't really playing, and maybe getting lucky with hanging a mafia player."

I also kind of did that to L1 last game when I was a traitor, just to increase the lynch wagon. Like I said, different player...same strategy.

Harvey also has some splanin' to do, but I'm expecting a "I don't know what he's talking about!" Depending on ASP's actual alignment, I guess we'll see if that holds water. I've got suspicions, based on my qualities of scum players, of who's scum, but I'll save them for the next day phase. Let's see how people compose themselves in the final few hours.

Because I feel ASP is using too many easy scum strategies, and hopping on the lynch wagon without adding really anything new to the agon, he gets my vote.

Vote: ASP

[Kurt]

And I don't think JC was mod-killed...because Mods don't want to kill players. Two games ago, JD went like four days without a single post and didn't get killed. I just think L1 doesn't really want to kill anyone, as to not interrupt the flow of the game.

I mean, I wouldn't in his situation.

[Reaver]

i agree with noble, ASP has been suspect for me as well and even tho i still feel harvey is scum, so is ASP so im changing my vote.

unvote: Harvey

vote: ASP

[C.J. Gates]

Unvote

Vote: ASP

Your QT message didn't sit well with me. I had my suspicions of you earlier, and now I'm leaning more toward you being scum. I don't know if the thing with Harvey just happened (or happened at all) but it's interesting how you didn't send it until after Sally told you to defend yourself, and after you had already posted to defend yourself. And for the record, JC DID defend himself, albeit, his defense still doesn't clear him one hundred percent in my books. I think it just makes him look less scummy then you do, ASP.

I guess if we lynch ASP we can at least get a feel for what/who Branden is. If this QT thing happened (which Branden will probably deny), and ASP turns up 3rd party/scum/mason, we can kind of figure what Harvey MIGHT be from that.

[President Jeff]

So ASP says Branden posted in his QT saying he posted in the wrong one. So maybe ASP and Branden are connected some how with their roles, or Branden is scum, or they're both scum.

I dunno, that kind of info is weird to me. If those two are sharing the same QT, why would ASP throw Branden under the bus like that. Not sure if its possiable, but can one player be involved in 2 QT's in 1 game. Hasn't been done yet here. I dunno, just seems weird to me. I still think Branden could be scum, just would have liked to hear Branden's responce to this before killing off ASP, but with him saying he's not around today and I think theres enough votes on ASP for a Lynch, guess we'll have to wait till the next day to find out

[Level-Two]

Current vote count

6: asp (Blade, Kaji, Pence, Kurt Noble, Knuckles, CJ Gates)
1: JC (asp)
1: President Jeff (Branden Harvey)
1: Kurt Noble (Nathaniel Havok)

Not voting: JC, Johnny Rebel, President Jeff, Sally Talfourd

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

[President Jeff]

ah fuck it

Vote: ASP

[Level-Two]

That's it. A lynch has been reached. Write up coming soon. No more talking.

[Level-Two]

Chapter three: As strong as your weakest link

The ruthless attack on Level-One sent shockwaves throughout the APW and it's mega stars. Some of the biggest names in the buisness were now marked targets. Heeding Level-One's words already far too late; the good guys of the APW amassed and formed their super group to combat Sally Talfourd and her minions.

APW President Jeff stood in the middle of the ring, surrounded by his brigade built overnight. They stood on guard protecting their president as he continued a motivational speech.

President Jeff: The APW has come along way and I am not going to let some brat erase all my hardwork by leading a team of misfits to destroy my company! Last week, they took out Level-One and are now threatening to take out more of this brands top stars...

President Jeff clinches his teeth.

President Jeff: This means we have to strike back! All you guys out here have taken a stand against Sally Talfourd; however there are people in the back who haven't. People in the back who plan on skating by; because they aren't assumed to be a target. People like... Branden Harvey. Harvey, get your ass out here right now!

Seconds later, Branden Harvey walks on out receiving a mixed reaction from the crowd. Confused, Branden Harvey makes his way down the ramp, receiving several dirty looks from his APW family. He enters the ring and immediately begins to talk things over with the boss.

President Jeff: Branden, you may not be a main-eventer here but that doesn't mean you can skate by around here! In fact, we're going to make an example out of you!

Branden Harvey: What why?

Branden Harvey looks around the ring, as several APW mega start to pile inside the ring.

President Jeff: I'm sorry, Branden—through you we will send a message to everyone in the APW that they are either with us or against us and with the enemy... Sally Talfourd!

Before Branden Harvey knows it, he's jumped by his once fellow freinds. They beat him until he was bloodied and bruised; and left to rot as tied his twisted body with the ring ropes. It was a brutal display, one that sent shockwaves through the wrestling community. The war was on; at the price of a mere jobber—but with his blood, the line in the sand had been drawn.

Dead day two (lynched): Branden Harvey- ASP- Jobber Face

This is now the night. You have until 6:00 PM EST, Sunday to get me in your night roles. That's 24 hours. Good luck.