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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 13, 2011 22:18:09 GMT -4
So Pence, Lester, Atken and Jeff all don't add up based off of that list. No way there are four mafia.
My number is #2.
It fits, but I think with those four, it's unlikely that it's alphabetical, unless JC and Blade don't have a number at all and are therefore our scum...
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 13, 2011 22:18:20 GMT -4
I thought the #10 he got was from his night action I'm still confused as to why he'd just get one number by using a night action. That would be entirely useless role, IMO.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 13, 2011 22:22:41 GMT -4
The only thing that would make sense would be that he was able to steal someone else's note. But even then, that doesn't make too much sense in a role.
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 13, 2011 22:27:44 GMT -4
1, he never said it was a night action 2, if Atken and Jeff are really numbers 11 and 12 respectively then it does work 3, L-1 is the only on off so far if the count skips Blade
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 13, 2011 22:44:05 GMT -4
I agree with what Gates said. My number is 3 and I was thinking that it was the number of mafia or related to knuckles since he was #3 on the list but now I'm thinking it's something else related to the game. Going to revisit this. Maybe the clues are not the alpahebtical numbers but the numbers of the player's list after the sign ups. Those are two different lists of numbers. Just a thought.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 13, 2011 22:45:12 GMT -4
Not to play devil's advocate here, but I assume you're bumping Jeff and Atken up because you think Blade is scum and therefore has no number. Are we working with the fact that scum has no number? JC hasn't come out with one and if he is scum (could there really only be one scum in a game like this) then everyone before JC would rise up one more number and throw everything off again.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 13, 2011 22:45:16 GMT -4
I'm talking about the clues. Maybe some of them lead to apprentices and others lead to players who can help find them.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 13, 2011 22:45:52 GMT -4
I agree with what Gates said. My number is 3 and I was thinking that it was the number of mafia or related to knuckles since he was #3 on the list but now I'm thinking it's something else related to the game. Going to revisit this. Maybe the clues are not the alpahebtical numbers but the numbers of the player's list after the sign ups. Those are two different lists of numbers. Just a thought. I thought so too and had something figured out, but then Lester's number threw it all off.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 13, 2011 22:49:13 GMT -4
Going to revisit this. Maybe the clues are not the alpahebtical numbers but the numbers of the player's list after the sign ups. Those are two different lists of numbers. Just a thought. I thought so too and had something figured out, but then Lester's number threw it all off. I'm thinking all of this alphabetical talk is throwing us off. Basically I think it's a red herring and all of this is going to lead us nowhere.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Nov 13, 2011 22:56:26 GMT -4
I thought so too and had something figured out, but then Lester's number threw it all off. I'm thinking all of this alphabetical talk is throwing us off. Basically I think it's a red herring and all of this is going to lead us nowhere. I'm not so sure how it's throwing us off? It makes the most logical sense. . .we just need to figure out how it affects us and use it to our advantage. All but a few are accounted for at this point and should at least help us go in a direction rather than standing around and twiddling our thumbs until the deadline and where mafia can strike again. If we don't make some kind of move, we're going to be down 0-2 and have nothing more to show for it.
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Post by Phil Atken on Nov 13, 2011 23:04:12 GMT -4
As for the "slip", my post clearly says that alphabetical order doesn't work, which it would if I was twelve. It was a brain fart between my list place and my actual number that flipped in my mind when I made the post.
Also, may not vote again today but I still really dislike Nunez's posting beyond the general number chitterchat.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 13, 2011 23:12:55 GMT -4
I decided to make a game move and used my one shot ability to net us a scummer so there would not be another no lynch. My ability gives me the name of a scum player with a few side effects that will hamper me the rest of the game but right now WE NEED a scum lynch. Going with what I just found out since my role is accurate.
Vote: Knuckles
This is the only time I can use this ability and the scum know what I've done so I'm expecting them to come after me. Trust on this. I used my ability to get a name of one apprentice and the name I got back was knuckles. This will eliminate one of the scum players for sure and if Knuckles does not come up as a scum player upon lynching I will gladly be lynched the next day phase. We need a scum lynch and that was the best course of action to get one IMO.
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Post by Reaver on Nov 13, 2011 23:29:35 GMT -4
huh? ur joking rite?
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 13, 2011 23:35:48 GMT -4
Nope. The information I received basically says you're the secret apprentice and I'm going by what I know. I wouldn't put myself out there unless I was certain the information was correct.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 13, 2011 23:45:13 GMT -4
That just seems somewhat random. What kind of role would allow you to find the name of one of the scum? I may not have played in many mafia games but I've seen a lot, and a day phase that allows that to happen? Seems off.
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Post by Reaver on Nov 13, 2011 23:51:35 GMT -4
very....it seems to me like ur fishing. why would anybody use an ability that would hurt them?
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Post by Kurt on Nov 13, 2011 23:52:29 GMT -4
"Good doesn't lead to good nor bad to bad. People steal, don't get caught. Live the good life. Others lie, cheat and get elected. Some people stop to help a stranded motorist and get taken out by a speeding semi. There's no accounting for it. How you play the cards you're dealt, that's all that matters. "~-Jigsaw~ Vote List:C.J. Gates - 1 (Pence Weatherlight) Blade - 1 (Arcadia) Knuckles - 1 (JamesV) Day 2 Ends at 11 AM EST, November 15th. (36 Hours Remain) With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to be tested.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 13, 2011 23:58:35 GMT -4
I would. Basically I'm a miller now. My action allows me to at any time, I repeat ANY TIME ask for the name of one apprentice. As a consequence of this I now come up guilty when investigated and I can only use the ability once so basically I'm vanilla action wise the rest of the game. It is my goal to convince you that my information is correct in order to help further the town in the game. Not going to say any more than that because it could constitute roleclaiming.
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Post by Phil Atken on Nov 14, 2011 0:00:09 GMT -4
Remember my early game lyncher theory.
I think it may be tied to numbers.
I think Varga just found the number he was meant to lynch.
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Post by Phil Atken on Nov 14, 2011 0:01:26 GMT -4
EWOP
Didn't see Varga's post.
A miller role would make sense to be fair to JamesyV.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 14, 2011 0:07:40 GMT -4
How do we know that James isn't just leading a lynch on a townie to further his own agenda? He says he's a miller now, so even if we had the means to investigate, he'd come up town and we'd have to believe him.
Basically, it leaves us with a few options.
1. We lynch Knuckles on the back of James and hope that he's not lying. If Knuckles comes up town, then we have James to lynch. If Knuckles is scum then I guess we can believe James.
2. We go with someone like Blade who many people are suspecting. He's also one of the ones that hasn't given his info on the number he received, although at this point, it would be easy for a scum to hide amongst the numbers anyways.
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 0:13:42 GMT -4
If JamesV is correct, he's probably dying tonight
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 14, 2011 0:14:27 GMT -4
That just seems somewhat random. What kind of role would allow you to find the name of one of the scum? I may not have played in many mafia games but I've seen a lot, and a day phase that allows that to happen? Seems off. I was thinking the same thing to be honest. Usually, I'd expect this sort of thing during a night phase. However, we have literally NOTHING else to go on. JamesV has claimed he caught Knuckles red handed. I'd be a lot more skeptical if we were getting down to the wire and mafia was in a position where they needed a lynch but it's so early, that we have much more to gain if we just take the risk and vote to lynch. These are the types of night actions I was waiting for. Plus, JamesV putting his neck on the line seems like quite the guarantee to me. Vote: Knuckles
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 0:14:29 GMT -4
If he is incorrect and we lynch Knuckles, he would die tomorrow
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Post by Reaver on Nov 14, 2011 0:17:19 GMT -4
If we go by alaphbetical Order in who's playing and matching it to a number, it looks something like this 1. Arcadia 2. CJ 3. James V 4. JC 5. Jesse Nunez 6. Johnny Rebel 7. Kaji 8. Knuckles 9. Level One 10. Nathaniel Havok (Blade) 11.Pence Weatherlight 12. Phil Atkens 13. President Jeff I find this very interesting for 2 reasons. 1. Kaji number was 7 and he falls at #7 on my list 2. James V said he was #3 and falls #3 on my list. I find it funny that u “suddenly” got a note or “used ur 1 shot ability” and somehow got me. According to jeff, me being number 8 alone proves me to be town but I guarantee that if checked that I would definitely come up town. Im willing to bet james that if somebody checked u out that u wouldn’t….. Since day 1 u were very defensive or “aggressive” as u so put it and this entire day phase u been really pushing for a lynch. Now he is amazingly calm? Is it me or is that scummy? …..let me ask, has anybody else gotten something stating that I am scum? Or maybe info that HE is scum? U have been wishy washy since the beginning james. Funny how things work out and looking at the day 1 write up, somebody here is THE LIAR and if im correct….ITS YOU!! VOTE: JamesV
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 14, 2011 0:20:48 GMT -4
Knuckles...Because you are #8, I don't think that completely clears you as town. We haven't found a link to say that the numbers clear anyone.
Also, if he is The Liar, which I don't think is the case, then he would be town.
Right now I'm debating throwing my vote on Knuckles (we'll at least either get a scum in Knuckles or get a scum in James the next day), James (for the obvious randomness of his sudden role/scum finder), and Blade. In that order.
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Post by jc on Nov 14, 2011 0:26:42 GMT -4
Okay. We need to know blades number, havoks number, and l1s number. That is where it gets jumbled because I am 4. After 8 somewhere is when it gets jumbled.
Also, is phil 12 as well as jeff?
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 14, 2011 0:28:26 GMT -4
Blade replaced Havok, and hasn't said his number.
Level One said he's #13.
Phil said he's #11.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 14, 2011 0:37:10 GMT -4
SAW Mafia\ Player List:1. Johnny Rebel 2. Arcadia 3. Knuckles4. Kaji Fireson 5. Nathaniel Havok 6. Pence Weatherlight 7. President Jeff 8. Lester "L1" Only 9, Jesse Nunez 10. C.J. Gates 11. JC 12. JamesV 13. Phil Atken Day 1 Ends at 3 PM EST, November 10th. (72 Hours Remain) With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to be tested.
*ROLES ARE BEING SENT OUT NOW. DO NOT POST UNTIL YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOURS* Knuckles, you forgot about this list conveniently. You blew up at me in that last post so that tells me I'm probably dead on with my info. You are the secret apprentice and my original theory was proven correct with the information I received. I know I'm a dead man walking right now but WE NEED to lynch an apprentice. Also Gates is on the right track with something relates to all of this. Also Knuckles you said I am the Liar, correct? Then you just slipped and said that I AM A TOWN PLAYER. So basically you're voting for someone that has a town role in your mind? Big mistake. That's a major slip if I ever saw one.
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Post by jc on Nov 14, 2011 0:49:05 GMT -4
I replied to a post on page 10 or 11 because that is the page my phone said we are on.
For the record, this list is supposed to help us find one of the apprentices, not all. Just because your number lines up doesn't mean you are town. It just means that you are not three one that particular clue points at.
Right now, blade seems like the logical lynch for this day phase. It would be easy for him to come out and claim to be number 9 now even if he doesn't have a number with everything that has ben revealed, but he said he had info but never said anything. L1 is obviously the slot where things got jumbled, but the fact that he drew unlucky number 13 makes me think he may be town.
vote: blade
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