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Post by Blade on Jan 9, 2012 6:21:38 GMT -4
Seriously?!?!? WTF guys? You open the day with those comments and expect to take the game seriosuly. You have nothing to add to the game apart from a silly morning post after a whole day phase and a night phase? Seriously, If I could vote for both of you I would. FoS Aspen and Alex |
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Post by Kurt on Jan 9, 2012 9:09:45 GMT -4
While I'm not as vehement about it as Blade, I do have to agree that those posts do just seem like were made to be made.
It's not surprising that L1 was taken out for Night 1. He's often the most vocal player in the game, and it's clear that the scum team doesn't want a vocal cast of players for this game. Thankfully, we don't have to fret as much because Yarmouth got modkilled, but we won't get so lucky with the others.
Now, based off day 1, the most obvious choice for a lynch would be Tmarv, especially since he admitted that he basically infofished Blade, and then got a bit snippy with Rhonda for doing the same thing. It's contradictory behavior like that that sets off a flag...but it's too early to label Tmarv based off that.
FoS: Tmarv
Oh, and I'm going to reread the write-up when I get back from school. Lets see if Kaji left us any clues about the night.
More from me later.
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Post by Jules on Jan 9, 2012 9:23:46 GMT -4
It's not surprising that L1 was taken out for Night 1. He's often the most vocal player in the game, and it's clear that the scum team doesn't want a vocal cast of players for this game. I thought similarly based on L-1's recent Mafia player of the year award. I'm curious, and please correct me if I am on the wrong track, does there exist a role that is scum but appears as mafia. I'm not role-fishing here, but simply asking whether anyone knows of such a role existing. I ask because we have a 'rogue detective' killing people and appearing in red, but detectives are usually town, right? (I've done a brief search on google but cannot find anything concrete). Or is this 'rogue detective' merely something that is part of the Persona 4 game and has no relevance to any specific role-type in this mafia game? |
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Post by Blade on Jan 9, 2012 9:28:13 GMT -4
It's not surprising that L1 was taken out for Night 1. He's often the most vocal player in the game, and it's clear that the scum team doesn't want a vocal cast of players for this game. I thought similarly based on L-1's recent Mafia player of the year award. I'm curious, and please correct me if I am on the wrong track, does there exist a role that is scum but appears as mafia. I'm not role-fishing here, but simply asking whether anyone knows of such a role existing. I ask because we have a 'rogue detective' killing people and appearing in red, but detectives are usually town, right? (I've done a brief search on google but cannot find anything concrete). Or is this 'rogue detective' merely something that is part of the Persona 4 game and has no relevance to any specific role-type in this mafia game? Do you mean a town role that appears as scum? If so, yes a miller would explain that. A townie that shows up as scum upon investigation. As far as a "rogue detective" goes. Investigation roles (cop/detective) can run for both Mafia and town |
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Post by Blade on Jan 9, 2012 9:30:01 GMT -4
Or a there could be a mafia framer who makes someone who is town look like scum.
May I ask, without fishing, are these just questions of curiosity?
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Post by Jules on Jan 9, 2012 9:36:23 GMT -4
Do you mean a town role that appears as scum? Sorry, I meant being scum that may show up as town (initially). I should have proof read. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Post by Jules on Jan 9, 2012 9:40:01 GMT -4
Or a there could be a mafia framer who makes someone who is town look like scum. May I ask, without fishing, are these just questions of curiosity? Pure 100% curiosity. |
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 9, 2012 10:57:31 GMT -4
While I'm not as vehement about it as Blade, I do have to agree that those posts do just seem like were made to be made. It's not surprising that L1 was taken out for Night 1. He's often the most vocal player in the game, and it's clear that the scum team doesn't want a vocal cast of players for this game. Thankfully, we don't have to fret as much because Yarmouth got modkilled, but we won't get so lucky with the others. Now, based off day 1, the most obvious choice for a lynch would be Tmarv, especially since he admitted that he basically infofished Blade, and then got a bit snippy with Rhonda for doing the same thing. It's contradictory behavior like that that sets off a flag...but it's too early to label Tmarv based off that. FoS: Tmarv Oh, and I'm going to reread the write-up when I get back from school. Lets see if Kaji left us any clues about the night. More from me later. I info fished... mostly as a joke because we were given Blade's alignment and the "target" on his back. I however did not role fish... That's what Vixen did and that's what I was calling her out for. Also, I don't see how I am the OBVIOUS choice... 1. I was not the only one fishing. 2. It was day one...I hate day one because there is literally nothing to go on and basically a wasted day most of the time. Also, I agree that the random "good morning" shit was a little bit fishy... But it could be the product of new players? (I don't know if they've actually ever played before or not) I'm not gonna hammer them right away for it... but I will ask them to at least make some sort of attempt to add something for the day, and do it quick. |
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Post by Blade on Jan 9, 2012 11:07:26 GMT -4
yes they have played before
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 9, 2012 12:51:14 GMT -4
Well at least we went 1-for-1?
The scum taking out Lester makes sense because he's always vocal in games. Though the fact that they wouldn't have taken out the only town confirmed role has me scratching my head (though maybe I'm overthinking his actual target). If the on Blade target IS as big as everyone keeps hinting at, wouldn't it have made more sense to see him die night one? It's a good thing he didn't, since Blade is one of the more seasoned veterans of the game around these parts.
The two random good mornings were a bit off putting. Definitely raises suspicion in their general direction.
I don't believe L1 had anyone pointing fingers at him day one did he? Not that it's usually a viable route to take, but it's always a possibility to start with...
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Post by Kurt on Jan 9, 2012 17:38:29 GMT -4
Well at least we went 1-for-1? The scum taking out Lester makes sense because he's always vocal in games. Though the fact that they wouldn't have taken out the only town confirmed role has me scratching my head (though maybe I'm overthinking his actual target). If the on Blade target IS as big as everyone keeps hinting at, wouldn't it have made more sense to see him die night one? It's a good thing he didn't, since Blade is one of the more seasoned veterans of the game around these parts. The two random good mornings were a bit off putting. Definitely raises suspicion in their general direction. I don't believe L1 had anyone pointing fingers at him day one did he? Not that it's usually a viable route to take, but it's always a possibility to start with... I don't think they targeted Blade because he would have been a liable candidate for doctor protection for night #1. In the case of a doctor, why not protect the only town player to keep them in the game? So, instead, the scum decided to pick off a power player. If he is going to get hit, my guess it'll be later on in the game when the focus isn't still clearly on him...but the doctor out there (assuming there is one), needs to keep Blade alive so we're not back at square one. |
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Post by jc on Jan 9, 2012 17:42:19 GMT -4
Not surprised scum went after L1 so early, but do have to say they have to have someone experienced on the team if not all of them. Hence why they went with L1 instead of a "confirmed" town role in Blade, considering Blade would more than likely be watched or protected.
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Post by Alex Castellanos on Jan 9, 2012 22:05:45 GMT -4
Oh lordy, basically, I have very little to offer right now. I posted that, and I didn't expect Aspen to follow up with me, and I didn't expect everyone to have a minor finger pointing fit because of it... whoops? I've played before, but Aspen in all seriousness has not. Her pairing up with me is probably because we are fedheads together, but she has been otherwise worthless to any conversation, and I think that her replying to me might be a naive sheep in a flock thing, but it also could be a way to remain active without really doing anything. So, I'll join in on the FOS: Aspen. Dearest Aspen, if you really are just lost, don't follow me, because it doesn't do any of us any favors in the long run. Not surprised scum went after L1 so early, but do have to say they have to have someone experienced on the team if not all of them. Is L-1 active on any interfed communities where other people play mafia? I had no idea this guy was a mafia player of the year, so I'd assume that only APW people would really know that. Hence why they went with L1 instead of a "confirmed" town role in Blade, considering Blade would more than likely be watched or protected. Of course, that's the only person we know is town so far. I think the question of "is there a role that shows up as town, but is actually scum" should be looked into more though. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 10, 2012 0:04:06 GMT -4
Of course, that's the only person we know is town so far. I think the question of "is there a role that shows up as town, but is actually scum" should be looked into more though. Wasn't that already answered as a Miller? |
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Post by Kurt on Jan 10, 2012 0:20:43 GMT -4
A miller fits that category, although that's usually only relevant in an investigation.
If it's a Miller-like role that's out in the open, it's possible Kaji just made up the role to add layers to the game, which he's entitled to do...but something about confirming it just seems odd to me. I understand planting deception in people's heads (like I believe he did with the K mention), but outright confirming it screams honesty.
There's not really anything else to analyze AC because its Blade's word versus...err....paranoia. It's a dead point, so I don't see any reason to red it further unless additional info comes up.
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Post by Jimmy Helmsley on Jan 10, 2012 0:23:55 GMT -4
Sorry about being inactive, I am on my phone and won't have internet till tomorrow. Will make a larger post when it won't take 20 minutes to write it.
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Post by Alex Castellanos on Jan 10, 2012 1:32:40 GMT -4
Of course, that's the only person we know is town so far. I think the question of "is there a role that shows up as town, but is actually scum" should be looked into more though. Wasn't that already answered as a Miller? I'm nearly certain that a Miller is a regular townie who always looks like scum. For some reason I can't get off of that, and I'm sorry if I'm dragging us down, but it is a hunch that I can't get rid of. An inverse Miller doesn't seem so crazy to me, and if nothing surprising happens during the night, Blade gets my vote tomorrow. FOS: Blade... and the promise of a vote soon. |
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Post by Aspen Chaud on Jan 10, 2012 1:44:00 GMT -4
Yeah I am not a Mafia vet, all the times I've played I spose it wasn't as serious. I've never played one with as many sub plots as this one thus I don't have much to say. I can't imagine it would be fair to say he is confirmed Town yet change it later on. So I'll lean towards not voting for Blade just simply on I have my doubts they'd have some sort of Trick.
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Post by Blade on Jan 10, 2012 3:39:20 GMT -4
Wasn't that already answered as a Miller? I'm nearly certain that a Miller is a regular townie who always looks like scum. For some reason I can't get off of that, and I'm sorry if I'm dragging us down, but it is a hunch that I can't get rid of. An inverse Miller doesn't seem so crazy to me, and if nothing surprising happens during the night, Blade gets my vote tomorrow. FOS: Blade... and the promise of a vote soon. Its obvious why. The mod has come out and cleared me as town, I dont understand what is so hard to comprehend? |
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Post by Alex Castellanos on Jan 10, 2012 9:33:36 GMT -4
I said I'm done for the day on that subject. Your vote can stand, and I will either admit I was wrong, or go all in on this subject tomorrow.
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Post by Blade on Jan 10, 2012 9:45:07 GMT -4
What exactly is there to discuss on the subject?
It shows me as town. Mod says it is correct and not a mistake. Therefore I must be town, no confusion.
On a side note, can anyone shed any info on last night?
Not role fishing, and dont want anyone to out themselves, but again we have no info for a day 2 phase, So either everyone is really unlucky with their night actions, or this day phase is going to be more painful than the last
My 2 cents are that 2 out of 3 are scum (Alex Castellanos/Aspen Chaud/Tmarv)
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Post by Jules on Jan 10, 2012 9:50:30 GMT -4
I said I'm done for the day on that subject. Your vote can stand, and I will either admit I was wrong, or go all in on this subject tomorrow. Can I ask what you are referring to by 'day' and 'tommorrow'? Are we talking real time or game time? |
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Post by Blade on Jan 10, 2012 9:51:25 GMT -4
I assume game time
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 10, 2012 10:16:29 GMT -4
My 2 cents are that 2 out of 3 are scum (Alex Castellanos/Aspen Chaud/Tmarv) WTF? Really just for the simple fact that I info fished on day one? Jesus guys, have a chill pill. Doesn't everybody info fish? I.e. I know you said you weren't roll fishing, but how is that different from me asking if you had any info to share? Also... I thought this whole "Is blade Town or Mafia?" was taken care of already. I'm getting nothing but scum reads on Alex... don't really want to hop on the band waggon yet, but your explainations are fishy and full of holes. you keep going after Blade even though he's confirmed town. It's not right. and it's not helping our cause any. Also, i kinda have info...though it's really no use to anyone but me. But my info is that I will have better info tomorrow. (I realize that's criptic and all, but I'm trying not to role claim) |
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Jan 10, 2012 10:16:51 GMT -4
What I'm gathering from Alex is that he's saying if you keep your vote on me today, I'm going to make sure you regret it tomorrow.
This is an easy one folks.
VOTE: Alex Castellanos
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 10, 2012 10:22:05 GMT -4
Not surprised scum went after L1 so early, but do have to say they have to have someone experienced on the team if not all of them. Is L-1 active on any interfed communities where other people play mafia? I had no idea this guy was a mafia player of the year, so I'd assume that only APW people would really know that. THIS doesn't sit right with me! THis is screaming "I'm not an APW person, therefore I CANT be the killer" And to me that is way too defensive to start off the game with. I don't like it Vote: Alex Castellanos |
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Jan 10, 2012 11:22:23 GMT -4
Vote Count Alex Castellanos 4 Votes ( 4 more to lynch) - Blade
- Johnny Rebel
- T-Marv
Not Voting: - Kurt Noble
- C. J. Gates
- Phil Atken
- JamesV
- JC
- Jimmy Helmsley
- Alex Castellanos
- Rhonda Vixen
- Farquhar
- Aspen Chaud
Deadline is Wednesday, January 11th, at 8:59 PM Eastern (about 46 hours and change) Mod Note: The deadline on my previous post, revealing the night's death, says Tuesday the 11th, which is an error. The 11th is 3 days, and that is a Wednesday. My bad. |
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Post by Blade on Jan 10, 2012 12:29:33 GMT -4
My 2 cents are that 2 out of 3 are scum (Alex Castellanos/Aspen Chaud/Tmarv) WTF? Really just for the simple fact that I info fished on day one? Jesus guys, have a chill pill. Doesn't everybody info fish? I.e. I know you said you weren't roll fishing, but how is that different from me asking if you had any info to share? Also... I thought this whole "Is blade Town or Mafia?" was taken care of already. I'm getting nothing but scum reads on Alex... don't really want to hop on the band waggon yet, but your explainations are fishy and full of holes. you keep going after Blade even though he's confirmed town. It's not right. and it's not helping our cause any. Also, i kinda have info...though it's really no use to anyone but me. But my info is that I will have better info tomorrow. (I realize that's criptic and all, but I'm trying not to role claim) Call it a gut feeling, nothing else. And basically asking for some info is a call for some activity. I see your point, but now with about 30 hours until deadline and half the players MIA Hopefully someone can bring something and the doc (assuming we have one) can protect their ass. We cant go another game where we have no Lynches what so ever. Its also interesting to see a Hidden/secret voter in play now as well |
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Post by Jules on Jan 10, 2012 13:54:40 GMT -4
Its also interesting to see a Hidden/secret voter in play now as well How have you drawn this conclusion? |
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Post by Jules on Jan 10, 2012 14:00:13 GMT -4
EWOP: Ignore my question above, I know what you're talking about now.
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