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Post by Jules on Jul 10, 2012 8:26:19 GMT -4
I believe it's A.C. Smith
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Post by Lord Raab on Jul 10, 2012 8:48:02 GMT -4
This sounds like a dumb question but what does F.O.S stand for?
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 10, 2012 9:13:09 GMT -4
If you're gonna get all pissy at someone playing around, then you may as well go back to day one and get angry at everyone that put forth joke votes, or for anyone that was kidding around. You mean kind of like this? So by that logic, joke-voting without any evidence at all is SMARTER than publicly saying I want to wait a night and see what evidence we as a town can gather? By no means am I trying to create a shitstorm or accuse anyone of anything, but if that's the logic towns around here have been using, then it's no wonder the town's lost at least the last four games in a row (dating back to Misfits, which was my first here in APW). If me saying I want to wait around and see what information we as a town can gather before making important decisions gets me bashed for wanting to play safe and not massively screw up out of the gate, then so be it. But I want to put an end to the town's losing streak in these games, and anyone reading more into my no-lynch than that is making a big mistake. What do I need to do to convince you guys I'm town? For five pages now, I've insisted that everything I'm doing is to try to make the town actually win this game. And I mean that sincerely. Name what, exactly, I can do to get people off my back that's within the rules of the game, and I'll do it. I have a night role that could prove extremely useful to the town. Given the strict rules Callahan put out about character claiming/hinting, that's all I can really say. If saying that means I get night-killed by the bad guys, so be it. Better to go down in a blaze of glory than to die at the hands of a bad lynch.
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Post by [ManiC] on Jul 10, 2012 9:32:04 GMT -4
This sounds like a dumb question but what does F.O.S stand for? Finger of Suspicion. It has no real significance other than to suggest who you're watching closely/suspicious of etc.
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Post by Lord Raab on Jul 10, 2012 10:01:45 GMT -4
Thank you.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 10, 2012 11:01:24 GMT -4
"Get cocky cause you finally won and you'll deserve the harsh discipline you'll get." - Nina VOTE COUNT:Bacon- 1 (Captain Metro) A.C. Smith- 1 (Blade)
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Post by Jules on Jul 10, 2012 11:03:52 GMT -4
If you're gonna get all pissy at someone playing around, then you may as well go back to day one and get angry at everyone that put forth joke votes, or for anyone that was kidding around. You mean kind of like this? So by that logic, joke-voting without any evidence at all is SMARTER than publicly saying I want to wait a night and see what evidence we as a town can gather? By no means am I trying to create a shitstorm or accuse anyone of anything, but if that's the logic towns around here have been using, then it's no wonder the town's lost at least the last four games in a row (dating back to Misfits, which was my first here in APW). If me saying I want to wait around and see what information we as a town can gather before making important decisions gets me bashed for wanting to play safe and not massively screw up out of the gate, then so be it. But I want to put an end to the town's losing streak in these games, and anyone reading more into my no-lynch than that is making a big mistake. What do I need to do to convince you guys I'm town? For five pages now, I've insisted that everything I'm doing is to try to make the town actually win this game. And I mean that sincerely. Name what, exactly, I can do to get people off my back that's within the rules of the game, and I'll do it. I have a night role that could prove extremely useful to the town. Given the strict rules Callahan put out about character claiming/hinting, that's all I can really say. If saying that means I get night-killed by the bad guys, so be it. Better to go down in a blaze of glory than to die at the hands of a bad lynch. The thing is, A.C., apart from Blade nobody is saying you are scum, just that some aspects of your play are scummy. There is a significant difference. You're getting a bit paranoid and ultra-defensive here, and for the record, insisting you are town doesn't clear you in any way; on the contrary, it's likely to incline people towards the opposite. Nobody is asking you to role-claim, so I don't know where that came from. At the moment, I've got some scummy vibes off some of the stuff you've said, but not strong enough for me to say I think you're anti-town. If you are town though, you need to stop over-reacting (you have one vote against you) because this behaviour is just going to feed any paranoia among the town, and if you are town last thing we need is a mislynch.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 10, 2012 11:33:26 GMT -4
At the moment, I've got some scummy vibes off some of the stuff you've said, but not strong enough for me to say I think you're anti-town. If you are town though, you need to stop over-reacting (you have one vote against you) because this behaviour is just going to feed any paranoia among the town, and if you are town last thing we need is a mislynch. The over-reacting is one of the things that has me looking at AC as well. I'm just not sold enough to put a vote on him. Blade did bring about a good point that it seemed like AC was waiting for someone to make the first move before he jumped on the wagon, though it could have also been a mis-worded "I want to see what night action information there is". The only other thing about AC that I've caught was his claim to want to play more aggressive (I think it was AC anyways). Seems like a nice out if he is scum. "I might seem scummy, but that's because I want to be aggressive in getting lynches!". I might be reading into it too much, though.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 10, 2012 11:40:27 GMT -4
Quick deviation from the discussion: Callahan, when is the voting deadline?
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Post by Blade on Jul 10, 2012 11:41:42 GMT -4
I believe it's A.C. SmithCorrect, have a cookie. Still felt like calling him Slater though, y'know from saved by the bell. Nice how Kris and Bacon also copied me
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Post by Metrodamus on Jul 10, 2012 12:28:38 GMT -4
I believe it's A.C. SmithCorrect, have a cookie. Still felt like calling him Slater though, y'know from saved by the bell. Nice how Kris and Bacon also copied me I think I was first but that's besides the point. I don't see AC as scum at the moment as his back is way to far up the wall. If he was scum it would've been far easier to do what Bacon has done.
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Post by Blade on Jul 10, 2012 12:46:32 GMT -4
Ok Metro, you win that one. You can be first... Anyway... Here is why I find AC smythe a bad cookie... (Part from me already saying he is stiiting on the fence way too much waiting to follow a bandwagon. Play with your head and not with your heart.) and merely said I wouldn't have been shocked if someone used a powerful town role on Bacon during night one. I can say with certainty that I was not one of those people; I just figured someone else would have. If you're looking for ulterior motives, none exist. I have a night role that could prove extremely useful to the town. Given the strict rules Callahan put out about character claiming/hinting, that's all I can really say. If saying that means I get night-killed by the bad guys, so be it. Better to go down in a blaze of glory than to die at the hands of a bad lynch. So you are either lying through your teeth about having an awesome role, because If you had one that was extremely useful, you would have used it on bacon... unless you are a cop. And T-Marv, how exactly was I fishing? That's the second time you've tried to cast me in a certain light (you did day one as well). Trust me, I can guarantee you that I am NOT the third-party. I'm waiting to see if anyone has anything solid on Bacon before we move forward. While I'm not letting Gub entirely off the hook yet, I find it hard to believe that Bacon wasn't the target of a night action during the first race period. There is your answer in your own post. You are waiting for someone to out their information/role, therefore you are role fishing. Smythe, Are you a Lyncher? Do you have to lynch Bacon? I am getting that vibe from you, but you clearly state you are not 3rd party, so that makes you town or scum right? If you really had a role that could prove useful, you would have used it on Bacon yourself (unless you are a cop like I already stated)
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 10, 2012 13:46:43 GMT -4
So you are either lying through your teeth about having an awesome role, because If you had one that was extremely useful, you would have used it on bacon. Unless I had other suspicions on night one, which I did. The only reason I even mentioned Bacon was because, while I was arguing with Gub (whose silence over the last day and a half is getting more deafening by the hour, by the way), Metro had cast a vote and there was other discussion abounding. What I was trying to say was that I was waiting to see if others had useful information about Bacon from night actions before casting a vote, because it was highly possible that someone did. In short, Gates was right in saying that I mis-worded, "I want to see what night action information there is." This is not meant to be defensive/paranoid/whatever you want to call it. It's meant to be logical. Enough defending myself for the moment; let's talk about the voting. If Gub doesn't come back within the next several hours, it makes the possibility of him laying low until the dust settles from our earlier spat very likely. He hasn't helped the town at all since his, "If we press on any further, you or I should be considered distractors," statement, and he may have decided to back away once he saw that I was under some fire by Blade (and others). Maybe it's just the way he plays, but my eyebrows shot straight up once Day 2 started, and they haven't come down yet. F.O.S.: Gub
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Post by T-Marv on Jul 10, 2012 18:54:34 GMT -4
sorry for the bit of silence.
IT seems like everybody is kinda firing at AC smith from all cylinders and it's not hard to see why. First he went hard core after Gub and then Bacon and seems to be unable to come up with a good reason why any of this happened. He just seems shady to me. Not a reason to cast a vote maybe, but still a reason to wonder.
I'm a little disconcerned by Gub's absence as of late. Maybe he's busy, or maybe he's laying low at the behest of his scum buddies. But I don' think he's scum at all based on his play being consistant with former games.
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Post by jasonandrews on Jul 10, 2012 20:46:09 GMT -4
Correct, have a cookie. Still felt like calling him Slater though, y'know from saved by the bell. Nice how Kris and Bacon also copied me I think I was first but that's besides the point. I don't see AC as scum at the moment as his back is way to far up the wall. If he was scum it would've been far easier to do what Bacon has done. You really are pushing me to be scum aren't you? You haven't let off since day one especially since i haven't given anyone the reason for me being scum.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 10, 2012 21:13:46 GMT -4
To be fair, Bacon, you haven't given a reason anyone a reason that you are town either. Your aggressive-defensive stance doesn't really stop any suspicion either, just like last game where you cost us the town the game because of your head scratching play both during the day and during the night, but the day is what kept suspicion on you despite you being cleared was your aggressive play whenever you were suspected of foul play.
Only difference is this time there's nothing stopping people to lean toward you telling the truth. All we have is you're scum vs your play, but like i said, unless something that comes out that points to ANYONE as scum, I'm for a no lynch the way the numbers play out.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 10, 2012 21:28:46 GMT -4
Vote: Gub
After being one of the most vocal players the first part of the day phase, he suddenly goes radio silent for two days after cryptically saying, "If we continue, we'll be viewed as distractors?" Awful convenient timing.
Maybe he's just busy, maybe he's got better things to do. But I had scum vibes from him before he dropped off the face of the earth, and even after giving him every opportunity to chime in on the discussions we've been having, he stayed silent. There's too much here for me not to cast that vote.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jul 10, 2012 22:06:57 GMT -4
He's been silent because he hasn't been on since Sunday night. Kinda hard to talk when you're not on the board right? Also, So you are either lying through your teeth about having an awesome role, because If you had one that was extremely useful, you would have used it on bacon. Unless I had other suspicions on night one, which I did. So, did you get anything good Mr. Extremely Useful? Don't be a tease.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 10, 2012 22:19:20 GMT -4
So, did you get anything good Mr. Extremely Useful? Don't be a tease. Potentially, yes. And regarding his not signing in: It's a valid point, but he hasn't posted an RP in over a month. It's much easier to not sign in here when you don't have an active character to handle. All he's missing out on is this thread, which, for purposes of the "lay low" strategy I outlined earlier, makes perfect sense.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 10, 2012 22:43:58 GMT -4
Tossing Gub under the bus, when it very-well could be IRL... Take me, for instance. I've just been trying to stay afloat for reasons already known (no needing in airing my dirty laundry once again). My head is finally a bit cleaer, at least, I'm learning to accept this whole deal. So I'm able to jump back in, and I find you A.C. Slater, to be a bit... Oh, Saved by the Bell is on... I'll get back to you in a bit.
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Ha, that damn Zack Morris!
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Okay, I'm back. Zack wrecked the principals car, it was pretty funny. Anywhom, I find you to be a bit scetchy. It seems like Gub is your only way to throw the heat off of you, and you're beating a dead horse in my opinion. Many have tried, many have failed. It's an old trick, and I'm really not buying it.
F.o.S.: A.C. Slater
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 10, 2012 22:44:37 GMT -4
EBWOP
Excuse my spelling errors. I've been at work all day, and just smoked my first bowl of the evening.
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Jul 11, 2012 4:06:17 GMT -4
I don't blame you for jumping on Gubayama because he does say some idiotic things at times and tries too hard to be 'unconventional' (I call it distracting), okay crown jewels, mate. black on black crime, fella.
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Jul 11, 2012 4:15:42 GMT -4
while I was arguing with Gub (whose silence over the last day and a half is getting more deafening by the hour, by the way), whyyy i ouugghttaa, anyway sorry about my absence. i was at universal studios AC, i don't really think you're scum, but christ are you chucking dirt at me as if you need me to be a person of interest. i need to read a few pages still but for the most part you are, to quote the Crown Jewels of MAFIA, overreacting.
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Jul 11, 2012 4:25:27 GMT -4
Vote: GubAfter being one of the most vocal players the first part of the day phase, he suddenly goes radio silent for two days after cryptically saying, "If we continue, we'll be viewed as distractors?" Awful convenient timing. this is amazing. nothing gets past you, eh? job well done, AC, you've dragged me out into the open and now i am finely gonna get my big comeuppance, yes? no, i'm not because you are pushing heavily for either bacon and/or me to be crucified over cheap gags! what did i say some odd pages back about relaxing some and loosening ties? huh!? anyway, i'm not going to vote for you yet because it wouldn't surprise me if you're just actually like this. you haven't done much to warrant my suspicion besides what's been stated already, however, you're sort of backing yourself into a corner, thus will likely react in an unintentionally much scummier way, i predict.
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Jul 11, 2012 4:36:53 GMT -4
AC is correct: i haven't rped here in sometime. there's not much reason for me to come check out APW except this thread, however, the game is important to me so i'm not dodging it. like i said a few posts earlier, i was at a theme park for most of today, so lol not really a great excuse but i don't need to excuse myself :s my not logging into the forums doesn't mean i'm automatically scummy, but whatever. most peeps so far trust me (Except crown jewels what have i done to you! well sure there's been times i've had a crack at you. could this be revenge a bad romance?) but, AC, after all this dirt you've thrown at my wonderfully Japanese face, I'm a bit wounded i think you're scummy. Vote: AC Smith really, if you're town, hurry up and convince me to unvote you because christ i've seen many APW games where the towns done goofed up.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 11, 2012 9:02:01 GMT -4
anyway, i'm not going to vote for you yet because it wouldn't surprise me if you're just actually like this. you haven't done much to warrant my suspicion besides what's been stated already, however, you're sort of backing yourself into a corner, thus will likely react in an unintentionally much scummier way, i predict. So, our of curiosity, what changed in the 11 minutes between when you said you weren't going to vote AC Smith to when you voted for him?
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 11, 2012 9:03:08 GMT -4
"You seem to have hurt your little bicycle. Oh, I feel so sorry for you." - Officer Eiskopf VOTE COUNT:Bacon- 1 (Captain Metro) A.C. Smith- 2 (Blade, Gubayama) Gubayama- 1 (A.C. Smith)
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 11, 2012 9:07:29 GMT -4
Gub: "A.C., I don't really think you're scum."
Gub, 21 minutes later: "Vote: A.C. Smith."
Hands down the scummiest post of this day phase, and adds more reason to why I, without hesitation, cast my vote and stand by it.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 11, 2012 9:21:45 GMT -4
EBWOP
Just a heads-up: If the rules on page one are accurate, it looks like we're looking at 4 p.m. today for the end of day two. Callahan, is this correct?
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jul 11, 2012 9:41:24 GMT -4
EBWOP Just a heads-up: If the rules on page one are accurate, it looks like we're looking at 4 p.m. today for the end of day two. Callahan, is this correct? Not entirely sure what time zone you're looking at but given that I started the Day Phase at 9PMGMT, I'll be finishing it in six hours and twenty minutes from now at 9PM tonight.
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