WKRP in Cincinnati Mafia: NIGHT FOUR

[Kurt]

Sept 24, 2012 17:01:07 GMT -4 Michael Callahan said:

3 Killers, 7 of us left.

I've formed some interesting opinions on who might just be scum but I'm playing my hand close to my chest for now.

We're not at danger zone but we will be if we lynch one of our own. With our cop and doctor gone I imagine we don't have any investigative roles left.

Knuckles seems to be prime suspect for his erratic beahviour and while I'd ordinarily not consider there to be enough substantiative evidence at hand to justify his lynching, my gut (which is very substantial ) and his behaviour tells me that he might just be our man.

So with that in mind;

Vote: Knuckles

This post is sending an unusual message to me. I'm not sure why you would "play your hand close to your chest" when we have almost nothing to go off of. There's no doctor left to protect you, unless there's another protector (in this small a game, eh), so holding out on an opinion when we're even struggling for activity doesn't sit well with me. I understand you might have a night action building a case, but why even single yourself out like? We are in a danger zone, if you haven't noticed the distinct lack of momentum circulating through the game.

Also, you dropped 3 killers pretty distinctly...but 4/12 is 33%. It's still manageable, especially if the town is power-heavy.

But, onto the real issue at hand: Knuckles. His dead silence is just way too uncharacteristic to me; but I'm toying with the possibility he was silenced. Even though we didn't see a silence on Day 2, it's possible it was either a one-shot, or that the killer/silencer miscommunicated and targeted the same person. The problem is that this isn't an issue I want to wait on Day 4 to see; we're already hemorrhaging momentum and don't have anything significant to run on.

I'm gonna wait until the morning to see if...

1. Knuckles posts.
2. Anyone counters TJ on winning the trivia.
3. More opinions.

[T-Marv]

Vote: Knuckles.

Sure, it'd be nice to wait for knucks to speak, but we're getting WAY too close to a no lynch and I don't think we can afford it. Knucks is a great lynch. His play is scummy, he's been quiet this day phase....and I think his lynch will provide us with some good information (will explain later)

[C.J. Gates]

I know there is a roleblocker out there because I was blocked night one. Doesn't help much considering I don't know who it was, but if we're taking TJ's note at face value that he was given a one shot block, that means that there were potentially two roleblocker types out there last night.

Or he's lying, but I can't say that with any proof.

[Kurt]

Sept 25, 2012 0:13:38 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

I know there is a roleblocker out there because I was blocked night one. Doesn't help much considering I don't know who it was, but if we're taking TJ's note at face value that he was given a one shot block, that means that there were potentially two roleblocker types out there last night.

Or he's lying, but I can't say that with any proof.

Hold the phone.

Why did you not say this earlier?

[C.J. Gates]

I don't know. I guess I didn't think it was going to make a difference if I said I was blocked night one or not. I mean, I don't exactly know who blocked me so, to me, all I know if that I was blocked. With TJ saying he had a one shot roleblock ability, I figured I'd bring it to light since it became more pertinent now then it did when it first happened.

Does it suddenly give you insight into who scum is, Kurt?

[President Jeff]

Ok, this is interesting

CJ, if you we're Roleblocked Night 1, then according to Blade, so was he.

Anyways, Knuckles has been online, isn't posting after we've questioned him, which like someone said, is unusal.

Vote: Knuckles

[Kurt]

Sept 25, 2012 1:06:33 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

I don't know. I guess I didn't think it was going to make a difference if I said I was blocked night one or not. I mean, I don't exactly know who blocked me so, to me, all I know if that I was blocked. With TJ saying he had a one shot roleblock ability, I figured I'd bring it to light since it became more pertinent now then it did when it first happened.

Does it suddenly give you insight into who scum is, Kurt?

It doesn't, but it sets the precedent what role types are in the game. We've had two days worth of roleblocks, although with no one counter-claiming TJ, I'm assuming his was one-shot. We've heard evidence of both an RBer and a misdirector, so when day 4 starts, we know to start compiling a record of who could be what based off what we know.

Anyway, I don't want this day to be a waste, and I'm not going to be much today, so I'll put down on my vote for the person who I feel is the most suspicious/whose lynch gives us the most game insight.

Vote: Knuckles

[C.J. Gates]

Sept 25, 2012 6:05:21 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

Ok, this is interesting

CJ, if you we're Roleblocked Night 1, then according to Blade, so was he.

He said there was a roleblocker or misdirector and then ended that same post by saying he didn't get anything because he was misdirected. However, that's also right before he spoke to AC Smith and got himself replaced.

[A.C. Smith]

VOTE COUNT:

Knuckles (5): CJ Gates, The Senator, T-Marv, President Jeff, Kurt Noble

Day three ends tonight at 9:30 p.m., approximately 12 hours from now.

[Michael Jennings]

Vote: Knuckles

He's had PLENTY of time to respond and I don't want a no lynch. We need to do something and right now this is the only option. Getting my vote in since I'll be at work until the end of the deadline.

[A.C. Smith]

That's a LYNCH as of JamesV's post. I will have a recap up later this afternoon (but before I leave for work at around 3ish Eastern time). For now, no more talking.

[A.C. Smith]

Our scene opens today in one of the back rooms of WKRP's studio. Venus Flytrap, a former teacher and the station's evening DJ, sits in the studio with a gang member, a son of an old friend who asked Venus for a favor. Venus, real name Gordon Simms, is happy to oblige, and proceeds to convince the young man that there is value in education.



The duo exits the room and leaves the studio. The younger man goes into his mother's car, which speeds away. Venus smiles and goes to his automobile, opening the door, sitting down, and turning the key.

BOOM!!!

The car suddenly explodes, and goes up in flames. It's clear that Clean Up Radio Broadcasting has struck again, this time taking one of Cincinnati's most recognizable DJ's.

DEAD: Venus Flytrap, Knuckles, Townie role-blocker

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That concludes Day Three. Please send me your night actions by 6 p.m. Eastern time Wednesday night (I have a field hockey game to cover at 4, hence the slightly-longer night period).

[A.C. Smith]

Have a game recap and an RP to write. Will post the night three recap either tonight or, at the absolute latest, tomorrow morning.

[A.C. Smith]

Our scene opens today as Andy Travis, program director at WKRP, walks to his office at the studio. He opens the door, and his eyebrows go up his forehead when he sees a familiar face.

Andy: “Norris? Norris Breeze?!”

He does the slap-and-wrap with Norris Breeze as he comes into the picture. Breeze is wearing an old suit, and is also happy to see the man who gave him his first job in radio.

Andy: “What’re you doing here?”

Norris: “I’ve been hired to take a look at the station by upper management.”

Andy: “Mama Carlson? Geez. I mean, before Johnny and Venus died, there were some things that happened that I regret. You know, we gave away $5,000 once in a contest we thought nobody could win.”



Norris: “Geez. Anyway, you’ve got nothing to worry about. I came to see you anyhow. I’m a consultant, and I wanted to see if you’d subscribe to my service.”

Suddenly, Andy’s face grows cold, and a knowing look comes over him.

Andy: “THERE it is. We don’t use a service, Norris. You want the truth? The jocks program the music.”

Norris: “Andy, nobody programs their own stuff anymore.”

Andy: “We do. And that’s the way it’s gonna stay. I have to go.”

Andy speed-walks out of his office. He leaves the building, and we see him walking to his car. However, he’s followed by a car with three people in it. As it gets closer, we see that the people are Dr. Bob Halyers, Wayne R. Coe, and Bob “Boogie” Barnett.

Andy tries to run the final few strides to his car, but the automobile is gunned to a high rate of speed, and…

BOOM!

The car speeds off in a cloud of dust, leaving the program director lifeless in a heap of his own blood in the parking lot.

DEAD: Andy Travis, President Jeff, Program Director/Role-gifter

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With eight alive, it takes FIVE votes for a lynch.

Day four begins NOW, and will end at 9 p.m. Eastern time on Saturday night.

[C.J. Gates]

The fact that the game isn't over means, to me, that we're dealing with 3 scum.

With that said, last night I had a one-shot ability to use and used it to find out that Kurt Noble is 100% guilty.

Vote: Kurt Noble

I know I led us to Knuckles which probably has a few of you questioning me, but we needed something and he seemed likely to be scum at the time. However this time I am 100% certain that Noble is scum.

[T-Marv]

This is BULLSHIT! There's a misdirector in this game to? COME ON!

i tried to watch Pres Jeff last night, got misdirected to Callahan.

[Kurt]

Sept 26, 2012 21:42:00 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

The fact that the game isn't over means, to me, that we're dealing with 3 scum.

With that said, last night I had a one-shot ability to use and used it to find out that Kurt Noble is 100% guilty.

Vote: Kurt Noble

I know I led us to Knuckles which probably has a few of you questioning me, but we needed something and he seemed likely to be scum at the time. However this time I am 100% certain that Noble is scum.

Oh, now this is good.

It's Day 4, we have had virtually no information, and are in a lynch-lose after you led us to a mislynch. I was curious of Knuckles's silence, but you seemed intent to start the vote on him well before we'd even gotten to that train of thought. So, now you have information.

Except...

Sept 23, 2012 11:52:08 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

I didn't get anything because my role doesn't give me results like that. I have one, but it doesn't exactly help in finding scum.

Your role doesn't give you results, but you have one. The funny thing is that I know exactly what your explanation is going to be, but you didn't word it that way originally. It's telling.

Not gonna lie bud, let me tell you what this looks like: You cause a mislynch, get a NK (RBer is now dead- who could stop you?), and the game's over.

So, explain CJ.

[C.J. Gates]

Of course you won't believe it, Kurt. I never expected you to.

We had no information last day phase. NOTHING. The game has been stalling and we were going to end up in another situation like we were day one and two with nothing done. I rolled the dice and voted Knuckles. Others were waiting for Knuckles to speak, but he never did and remained silent and then they voted. I might have cast the first vote on him, but I'd like to think that those other 4 or 5 that followed me were more damning to him than me. There was plenty of time for them to find other targets but they all followed. I admit that it was a poor move but we needed to do something.

With that said, my role is a role that gives me no results. I am not lying about that, just like I am not lying that I had a ONE SHOT role LAST night. Not night two. Night three. If I had the one shot on night two I would have used it night two. So when I said that I got nothing night two, that's because I didn't because my actual role itself isn't going to come up with any results. I had the one shot ability and I used it on you, Kurt, and you came back 100% guilty. No ifs, ands or buts.

I'm assuming no one will listen to my information, but I hope that people do. I hope that they can at least forgive the mislynch of Knuckles and help take out an actual scummer so that we don't lose. With 8 left, 3 of them scum, is we mislynch a townie today then we will draw and the mafia wins.

I am giving you a mafia 100%. Kurt Noble is scum.

[Kurt]

Sept 26, 2012 23:40:35 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

Of course you won't believe it, Kurt. I never expected you to.

We had no information last day phase. NOTHING. The game has been stalling and we were going to end up in another situation like we were day one and two with nothing done. I rolled the dice and voted Knuckles. Others were waiting for Knuckles to speak, but he never did and remained silent and then they voted. I might have cast the first vote on him, but I'd like to think that those other 4 or 5 that followed me were more damning to him than me. There was plenty of time for them to find other targets but they all followed. I admit that it was a poor move but we needed to do something.

Listen, I don't blame you for playing off you gut...except I don't think that's actually what you did now that I'm examining all the evidence. However, it is funny you throw the weight of the blame to everyone else while hiding under "Yeah, it was a poor move, but you guys followed!" I fucked up too, but I'm owning up to my poor play without painting it as everyone else's fault.

With that said, my role is a role that gives me no results. I am not lying about that, just like I am not lying that I had a ONE SHOT role LAST night. Not night two. Night three. If I had the one shot on night two I would have used it night two. So when I said that I got nothing night two, that's because I didn't because my actual role itself isn't going to come up with any results. I had the one shot ability and I used it on you, Kurt, and you came back 100% guilty. No ifs, ands or buts.

Here's where I think you're bullshitting, and I'm going to give you evidence for it too.

Your role gives you no results; that's fine, you said it before. You now have a one-shot role, and I can make the connection.

The problem is that YOU didn't make the connection.

It's subtle, but saying "Jeff gave me a one-shot xxx power and I used it" would make this lie more believable; but you haven't said that. You're trying not get caught up in too complex of a lie, but why would you?

Because I believe you're an x-shot silencer.

Here's why I believe that:

You are role-blocked Night 1, but unlike Blade, fail to mentioned it; your rationale was "I don't know." I think you wanted to hide that you'd used your night action attempt, so you don't bring it up until it was more convenient. It's never unusual to hide being role-blocked, so why do it?

Night 2 rolls around, and you silence Knuckles...who tries to communicate with us through the dislike function (my guess is AC Smith told him not to do that). You wait until it gets picked up on, and then vote first to get it going; we follow you, and get the mislynch.

Now here's the fun part: Jeff, the role-gifter, is killed night 3...but apparently was still able to hand out a power, despite being killed. Maybe AC doesn't have night kills suppress night actions, but I don't really care either way; the point is that Jeff is not here to counter-claim that he didn't give you a role. No here can say otherwise whether he did or not...just you and your word.

The problem is that you're not trust-worthy. You never explicitly say your one-shot is from Jeff. You've been vague about your normal role, and haven't claimed in order to avoid having to commit to a safeclaim. You led the lynch on Knuckles, but are now sitting in that middle-ground, self-depreciating defensive mode: "No one will probably listen to me, but my information is right" "I made a poor play, but it's more damning the rest of you followed it!"

Circumstantially, this rule is in here for a reason:

"6A. If you post when you are silenced (or if you post first before reading a message saying you were silenced), you have 10 minutes from the time your post was made to delete it without penalty. Mistakes happen, but they need to be rectified immediately. If you do not delete your post, you lose all powers for the following night phase, and will continue to be silenced for the next day phase as well. If you do it twice, you will be mod-killed."

Your plan to push a quick lynch on me didn't work because I just caught you.

I'm assuming no one will listen to my information, but I hope that people do. I hope that they can at least forgive the mislynch of Knuckles and help take out an actual scummer so that we don't lose. With 8 left, 3 of them scum, is we mislynch a townie today then we will draw and the mafia wins.

I am giving you a mafia 100%. Kurt Noble is scum.

The Mafia reminding us of the Lynch/lose scenario. How hilarious.

But I'm not going to vote for you yet...instead, let's see if everyone checks in. I said x-shot silencer because I don't think in a game this small it would be unlimited. If someone else doesn't check in, I'm 100% certain you're the silencer.

So let's see, shall we?

[C.J. Gates]

I'm not the silencer.

If I was 100% sure that my one shot deal came from Jeff, I would have said it. And while I probably could have assumed it given his role upon his death, it was never stated that it came from him. I didn't want to get too touchy because I didn't want to get mod-killed, but wait! That's another one of your weak limbs you're going to hold onto to try and get people to flip on me.

I don't know why you assume I'm the silencer. I can tell you exactly who I used me role on each night if you like, though it probably won't matter since you will continue to push this pointless lynch on me.

Night one I used my role on Terry Marvin, but was roleblocked so it never worked.
Night two I used my role on Level One.
Night three I used my given one shot on you and my own role on myself.

Like I said, my role doesn't give me any results guilty/non-guilty, but it does help the town. As much as you're hopping on all of this to try and get my lynched, Kurt, I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

After all, you would know that someone has been silenced, since you'd have spoken about it in your QT. And knowing that, you're probably going to wait until someone doesn't check in and then pin it all on me, aren't you? It's the only thing I can think of since you're 100% guilty. 150%. 200%. Whatever percent, you're guilty. Nailed to the wall.

I'm not the silencer. I'm town 100% and can help the town succeed. But I'll leave it at that for now and let others make up their mind. I'm sure this will all get picked apart though, right Noble? After all it's the best bet you have to try and weasel your way out of being caught red handed.

[C.J. Gates]

EWOP

Wanted to add that I used my own role on myself to make sure that my one-shot on Noble would be successful. It's the only real benefit it has.

[Chaos Stryke]

Question.

Night three I used my given one shot on you and my own role on myself.

What kind of abilities can you self target?
This way we can find out what role C.J. is.

[T-Marv]

I believe Gates. I was given a one shot role night 2 and didn't get to use it (cause I missed the night phase)

Vote: Noble

[Johnny Rebel]

We don't have anything else to go on, so, might as well jump on board. If we're being led astray, we at least know where to point the finger.

Vote: Kurt

[Chaos Stryke]

Wow... that seems a bit rash Marv and Rebel.

C.J. has given us a lot of information that cannot be confirmed and you're all jumping on it really, really quickly. That does sound way too scum like. Almost like you're hoping we all just jump in and railroad another person like Knuckles was.

[Johnny Rebel]

Sept 27, 2012 10:13:45 GMT -4 Chaos Stryke said:

Wow... that seems a bit rash Marv and Rebel.

C.J. has given us a lot of information that cannot be confirmed and you're all jumping on it really, really quickly. That does sound way too scum like. Almost like you're hoping we all just jump in and railroad another person like Knuckles was.

What else do we have to go on? This game is dragging and we can either sit back and allow it to end without even giving it a chance or we could follow the lead that somebody has.

If C.J's wrong about this, he'll be the next one gone. Why would he stick his neck on the line with his information unless he was positive that it was correct?

[C.J. Gates]

Sept 27, 2012 10:13:45 GMT -4 Chaos Stryke said:

Wow... that seems a bit rash Marv and Rebel.

C.J. has given us a lot of information that cannot be confirmed and you're all jumping on it really, really quickly. That does sound way too scum like. Almost like you're hoping we all just jump in and railroad another person like Knuckles was.

I made a bad suggestion on Knuckles because we had nothing to go on. People went with it, which was my bad for bringing it up, but we had nothing else.

There's no guessing this time, I am 100% positive Kurt is scum.

Though it might not even matter because if Kurt and company did end up silencing someone, then we won't get the 5 votes needed to lynch him anyways.

[Chaos Stryke]

What else do we have to go on? This game is dragging and we can either sit back and allow it to end without even giving it a chance or we could follow the lead that somebody has.

If C.J's wrong about this, he'll be the next one gone. Why would he stick his neck on the line with his information unless he was positive that it was correct?

No... if C.J. is wrong, again I might add, the game is effectively over.

We have time to consider the options. Whether we lynch someone now or in a day or two makes no difference. The hasty decision is the easier one to be wrong about.

I made a bad suggestion on Knuckles because we had nothing to go on. People went with it, which was my bad for bringing it up, but we had nothing else.

There's no guessing this time, I am 100% positive Kurt is scum.

Though it might not even matter because if Kurt and company did end up silencing someone, then we won't get the 5 votes needed to lynch him anyways.

I'm not faulting you on a bad decision. They happen. But after admitting to making one mistake you expect the town members to just shrug it off and follow you on another witch hunt?

You say you're not guessing, that you're 100% but how can everyone else be sure of that? You've already been wrong.

If Rebel and Marv are willing to follow you based on your word, which has already cost us one town member, I don't think it would be making much of a leap to say that you three are the scum in this game.

[Kurt]

Sept 27, 2012 10:39:15 GMT -4 Johnny Rebel said:

Sept 27, 2012 10:13:45 GMT -4 Chaos Stryke said:

Wow... that seems a bit rash Marv and Rebel.

C.J. has given us a lot of information that cannot be confirmed and you're all jumping on it really, really quickly. That does sound way too scum like. Almost like you're hoping we all just jump in and railroad another person like Knuckles was.

What else do we have to go on? This game is dragging and we can either sit back and allow it to end without even giving it a chance or we could follow the lead that somebody has.


If C.J's wrong about this, he'll be the next one gone. Why would he stick his neck on the line with his information unless he was positive that it was correct?

You seriously need to read my post. We're in a lynch lose situation. It doesn't matter after I'm lynched. The game will be over with a successful nightkill.

I can't believe no one is even waiting or analyzing the silencer scenario. You guys are so willing to believe CJ's point fresh off his leading the Knuckles lynch. It's baffling.

Also tmarv, scum can receive roles too since Jeff doesn't know who is who. Don't base your reasoning off of something so arbitrary.

[C.J. Gates]

Sept 27, 2012 10:55:56 GMT -4 Chaos Stryke said:

I'm not faulting you on a bad decision. They happen. But after admitting to making one mistake you expect the town members to just shrug it off and follow you on another witch hunt?

You say you're not guessing, that you're 100% but how can everyone else be sure of that? You've already been wrong.

If Rebel and Marv are willing to follow you based on your word, which has already cost us one town member, I don't think it would be making much of a leap to say that you three are the scum in this game.

If someone else has something to go off of, by all means, we can role with it. I know that I am 100% town, and I also know that there is no way short of getting myself modkilled that I can prove that and prove that my information is correct. All I can say is that I received a one shot investigative role and used it on Noble to find out he is guilty, and made sure to use my own role (which isn't anything investigative/silencing but helps make sure roles are successful) to make sure that I got a result.

The game will be over if we don't lynch scum, and Kurt is scum. If we don't lynch him, then we will lynch a townie (most likely, if we lynch anyone since it will probably either by Kurt or myself) and a nightkill will doom us. If we don't lynch anyone then a nightkill will doom us.

As far as a silenced player goes, Kurt, the more I think of it, the more I think you're full of it. If there was someone silenced, then we shouldn't even be playing since there's no way we can lynch scum if we only have 4 of the 5 needed votes.