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Post by Buckson Gooch on Aug 3, 2013 20:29:55 GMT -4
Now to Gooch, I have one simple direct question. Since you've admitted to trying to kill me, I would like to know what convinced you to pull a 'Matt Stone' on a town player? I thought you were scum. I was wrong. I'm glad it didn't go through. I think one of the above hit the nail on the head. The scum are pointing fingers at each other, whoever was recruited is still playing their same game. This is completely confusing now.
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Post by Lord Raab on Aug 3, 2013 20:58:37 GMT -4
Fair enough Pepsi. I'm just a horrible mafia player that even confused the hell out of everyone let alone me. I'm stupid. Nothing more I can say with that.
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Post by Jules on Aug 3, 2013 21:01:10 GMT -4
I don't buy The Goocher's joat claim and that bomb claim just adds weight to my suspicion. Perfect way to try and stall a lynch.
Raab mistake looks suspecious. Not sure that could error could be made. Looks to me like a play to try and cover Kash who may be lying about his role, this I meant chaos line a quick retreat after that was pointed out. This could be recruiter and recruit.
I am also intrigued by Sally's comment about James and it may indicate she has reason to suspect it.
Right now it's either Gooch or Raab for me.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 3, 2013 21:29:26 GMT -4
Jennings, why haven't you included yourself each time you're said 'the most likely recruits'? They tried to kill me night one. If I was recruited it would've happened then.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 3, 2013 21:40:50 GMT -4
No. My info is not related to the write up, which I largely consider to be flavor. The only thing that is definitive about this is that the kill failed as nobody was killed last night. Good to know. My character is one of the two possible targets in the write up (which should narrow down who I am) and I'm thinking I was their target. This tells me the mafia has someone experienced who is trying to get out the big time targets. Right now I'm looking at experienced players for the mafia. To refresh your memories. Also Gooch correctly concluded a long time ago I was bulletproof which I'm surprised was forgotten. Plus my comments about the doc protecting Sally and not me should've given that away anyway considering I said it at least three times in this game. Night One write-up and lack of a kill that night basically should tell everyone that scum would target someone other than me because of the kill not going through night one. Now the question that needs to be asked is who would scum target other than me? I'm going by highest priority targets left as far as most logical targets which is how Sally's name came to mind since L-O is gone.
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Post by Victor Hades on Aug 3, 2013 21:55:28 GMT -4
IF and thats a big IF Gooch is town (which im really still debating, honestly) next to you Jennings thats all I can think of. Sal possibly but thats a shot in the dark and a risk I dont feel comfortable taking just yet.
The only two I'm left looking at now voting for is either going to be Raab or Gooch as of right now. This way we can keep the ball rolling with good leads, not to mention forgetting someone repeatedly admitting to bulletproof kind of sticks out for me. So Jennings I totally agree with you there.
My next question now is-who's it gonna be?
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Post by Chaos Stryke on Aug 3, 2013 21:56:03 GMT -4
Gooch, I get the part that you thought I was scum, but I'm looking for the reasoning behind it.
What did I do, or what did someone else say that made you think, 'Stryke is scum and I'm going to kill him this night phase'? Can you answer that for me please, because honestly, until you do, I'm going to think you're scum or third party who took a shot, missed, and is scrambling for cover.
Town members cannot afford to make mistakes about quick judging people at this point in the game and either that's what you did or you're lying about being town. I don't see what other explanation there is.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 3, 2013 22:01:41 GMT -4
Right now it seems as if there's multiple people lying. IF and it's a BIG IF Raab is telling the truth, then Kash is lying about being a PGO. That right now is the one thing standing out to me.
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Post by Victor Hades on Aug 3, 2013 23:11:02 GMT -4
Agreed.
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Post by Pepsi on Aug 3, 2013 23:23:37 GMT -4
Right now it seems as if there's multiple people lying. IF and it's a BIG IF Raab is telling the truth, then Kash is lying about being a PGO. That right now is the one thing standing out to me. To me it seems more likely that Raab is lying. Besides Raab already said she didn't actually check into Kash, so that to me doesn't seem to even be in play. If Raab is telling the truth that means Stryke is town since that is the one she claims she checked into. I personally am leaning towards Raab being scum, or 3rd party at this point.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 3, 2013 23:27:15 GMT -4
I said Stryke was town before she posted that too which adds to the comment by Raab being suspicious. Right now leaning Raab giving what I've seen.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 3, 2013 23:34:13 GMT -4
Due to evidence that could incriminate me...I'm a town JOAT. The reason I bring this out now is to explain if anyone saw what I did last night. I used my 1x Night Kill on Chaos last night. It came back as unsuccessful. I wasn't roleblocked. This could mean different things, he could be the bulletproof godfather, a commuter, or the doctor could've protected him, but regardless it didn't show up in the write up at all. I thought that Chaos was scum and went for it. It was a risky play, but I thought worth it and ended up not being anything. My first night I used a 1x Bulletproof. That's how Level One was able to track me and see that I didn't do anything. I was killed night one in a CRW game a while back and didn't want that to happen again.I was silenced in day two by Knuckles. I watched Michael Jennings with my 1x Watcher. The 3rd party tried to kill him, but he did not die. I noticed that because...well...he isn't dead. That is why you will see me ask if he is the bulletproof townie. I saw that they unsuccessfully attempted to kill him.
I didn't use an action the next night. I have a few actions left, but for today, I'm using my day phase 1x Bomb. So, if you want to hammer a vote on me, someone is coming along and you'll kill me and lose a townie (b/c I'm sure the 3rd party or scum aren't dumb enough to drop a hammer). I have a great night action for tonight and another day action if we get that far. Past that, I have no information. I have no idea who would be recruited. Out of everyone left, I think there are benefits to recruit them, I just know that it wasn't me who was recruited. I was almost killed night one yet you said you used a 1x Bulletproof. I was the kill target night one going by the write up. If third party tried to kill me and you watched me who is it that you see try to kill me night two? That doesn't make any sense. FOS: GoochYour response will determine if I vote for you or for Raab btw.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Aug 3, 2013 23:42:04 GMT -4
FOS: Raab
I wondered how he'd have targeted me and not died himself. Totally suspect to me. Outside of the obvious "Cool" factor that myself and Logan share there is no slip up mistake of saying Jason Kash against Chaos Stryke. Not even remotely close. Maybe it is a mistake but an honest mistake? Ehhh more like a Scum or 3rd Party to me. More like someone helped push you along. Does this mean Logan is cleared though? Do we buy into that regardless of the slip up either way? I'd say Raab and Gooch are our two best picks for lynch right now.
Sally brought up some good points as usual but I'm going to vote either Gooch or Raab this time so I'll go with the majority on either.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 3, 2013 23:45:24 GMT -4
Evening. It's dinner time at the Corleone house, and all of the members of the family are in attendance. It's a rule that no business is discussed at the dinner table (after all, Sicilians are known for loving their food!), but one can't help but notice a little bit of tension in the room. Carlo: “Hey look, Sonny, Tommy, I'd like to talk to you maybe after dinner. I could be doing a lot more for the family.” Sonny: “We don't discuss business at the table.” Meanwhile, Clemenza and Michael are in the kitchen, preparing pasta and sauce. Suddenly, gunshots are fired through the window. Everyone gets down, and when the gunfire finally stops, the Corleones assess the damage. However, one member of the family does not get up. Fredo: “Tom!”Indeed, Tom Hagen, the family's lawyer, consigliere, and adopted son, caught a bullet in the head, and was killed instantly. DEAD: Tom Hagen – Speede – Town Roleblocker--- The next morning, Don Vito Corleone is in the garden, playing with his grandson, Anthony. DEAD: Don Vito Corleone – Papapancho – Town JOATMOD NOTE: Due to inactivity, Logan Alexander/Chaos Stryke has replaced Johnny Rebel. PLAYER LIST 1) KJE 2) Jennings 3) Stone 4) L-1 5) Pepsi 6) Reaver 7) SalTal 8) Jules 9) Kash 10) Hades 11) Evan Envi/AKA Drake 12) Raab 13) Gooch 14) Chaos Stryke With 14 players alive, it takes EIGHT votes for a lynch. Day three begins NOW, and will end at 9:30 a.m. Eastern time on SUNDAY, JULY 28. Here is the night two write up. There were two kills that night. So how was I targeted for a kill by third party again? That makes no sense given there were two kills and neither target was me. Hmmmm...makes me wonder just how a magical third kill attempt would be happening with two already going down. One was Stone and EVERY OTHER NIGHT there's only been one. Gooch, I think you're lying. I also think Raab is lying but my gut is telling me Gooch is most likely to be lying out of the two. Vote: Gooch
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Post by Pepsi on Aug 3, 2013 23:46:45 GMT -4
FOS: RaabI wondered how he'd have targeted me and not died himself. Totally suspect to me. Outside of the obvious "Cool" factor that myself and Logan share there is no slip up mistake of saying Jason Kash against Chaos Stryke. Not even remotely close. Maybe it is a mistake but an honest mistake? Ehhh more like a Scum or 3rd Party to me. More like someone helped push you along. Does this mean Logan is cleared though? Do we buy into that regardless of the slip up either way? I'd say Raab and Gooch are our two best picks for lynch right now. Sally brought up some good points as usual but I'm going to vote either Gooch or Raab this time so I'll go with the majority on either. James also cleared Stryke. As James pointed out that is likely why Raab switched from you to Stryke when she was called on the PGO thing.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 4, 2013 0:00:51 GMT -4
Gooch and Raab are both likely anti-town in my opinion. If either is town given what I've seen this day phase I'll be shocked.
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Post by Pepsi on Aug 4, 2013 0:12:02 GMT -4
Gooch and Raab are both likely anti-town in my opinion. If either is town given what I've seen this day phase I'll be shocked. Agreed. I already stated my skepticism about Gooch's JOAT claim. I think the bomb comment was a comment of desperation though I suspect there will be some nervousness about being the hammer on a Gooch lynch which is why I feel Raab would be the safer bet. I am not really buying her I'm dumb and that's why I said Kash instead of Chaos crap. That being said, I am willing to throw down a Gooch vote. If no one wants to hammer we may need to switch to Raab. Either way I think we hit an anti-town. Vote: Gooch
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Post by Lord Raab on Aug 4, 2013 2:49:01 GMT -4
All I'm saying is that I'm not scum at all especially that my characters name wasn't in the write up. Sure I made a hell of a stupid costy mistake but I blame that on my inexperience on this game and role. Fine if you don't buy with what I said but it's the truth. Either way it would be a big mistake for town if I was lynched.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 4, 2013 2:58:56 GMT -4
...Raab, you have no votes on you and are not even close to being lynched. This is just making you look like more of a suspect.
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Post by SalTal on Aug 4, 2013 4:06:10 GMT -4
Vote: Gooch
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Post by SalTal on Aug 4, 2013 4:08:34 GMT -4
Bah. That looks scummy. Ill share some info: Watchef Jules last night. He was not recruited.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 4, 2013 4:18:41 GMT -4
So we know it's not you, Jules, me, or Stryke. That helps out a lot and narrows down the suspect list.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 4, 2013 4:20:03 GMT -4
Unless someone is lying, the only people left are Pepsi, Raab, and Hades. It'd have to be one of them.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Aug 4, 2013 4:20:46 GMT -4
EBWOP
And Kash but considering he's a PGO that's highly unlikely.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Aug 4, 2013 7:35:29 GMT -4
Wow, can't a guy catch some sleep without people slamming votes against him? I'm not surprised by who is voting for me because whenever someone does they are quick to jump on the bandwagon EVERY time. It's like whoever starts a vote against me is guaranteed a Pepsi and Sally vote, too. You two have been hounding me for days with NO evidence. One of you, if not both of you now, is anti-town.
Jennings, the only time we've seen a 3rd party kill attempt show up in a write up is when it's successful, for some reason Smith is keeping them out. I know the result I got. You were targeted for a kill. You didn't die.
For some reason kill attempts aren't all showing up in the write-ups because I tried to kill Chaos last night, wasn't successful, and my green name didn't show up anywhere.
I have "activated" the bomb. It sure is brave for some of you guys to throw a vote on me and then say, "good luck to whoever the hammer is." Yeah, if someone does drop the hammer, I hope you're 3rd party or scum so at least I'll take someone with me..but what will happen it will probably be someone who is town (because the bandwagoners are already dropping their votes in.) Two townies will be gone and the game will be all but over...as a matter of fact, how about Sally or Pepsi drop that hammer on me...
I'll go ahead and start this. Vote: Raab
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Post by Lord Raab on Aug 4, 2013 8:21:41 GMT -4
I don't understand this but if you all think Kash is scum then why isn't he getting any votes? That's certainly a question to answer.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Aug 4, 2013 9:03:56 GMT -4
VOTE COUNT
Gooch: 3 (Jennings, Pepsi, SalTal) Raab: 1 (Gooch)
Again, with nine alive, it takes FIVE votes for a lynch.
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Post by Victor Hades on Aug 4, 2013 10:44:56 GMT -4
Sorry I'm late guys, best friend's bachelor party last night.
To start-with the evidence presented I'm going to go ahead and go with my original thoughts from earlier as Jennings basically cleared it up with the previous information showing Gooch's suspicion.
Jennings, Sal, and Stryke, are clear to me. Kash obviously was the PGO. I think Gooch's comment about the bomb sounds more scummy now-so that sort of empowers my next vote.
Just seems like an anti-town/3rd party kind of move.
Vote: Raab
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Post by Victor Hades on Aug 4, 2013 10:46:58 GMT -4
EBWOP
F%_@& me my fiance confused me and had me distracted. sorry wrong vote.
unvote
Vote: Gooch
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Aug 4, 2013 12:03:19 GMT -4
Welp, Hades, you had it right.
You should've voted for Raab.
So now it takes one more vote for me to hang...and the hammer goes with me.
See you in the dead QT.
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