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Post by Crusher Crenshaw on Aug 11, 2015 20:28:23 GMT -4
It has everything to do with the hear and now because you SAID you were going to share those insights as soon as Arkia and Rebel showed up. They BOTH have made a post after the fact and yet I don't even see so much as a list describing who you feel is town and scum out of who has posted thus far.
Why would you be purposefully witholding such basic information if you were gonna flip town? I can see why as scum because you don't want us analyzing your townie tells in case your scumpartners are there after you flip red.
Especially with you being at L-2, if you had ANY vested interest at all with helping us achieve a town victory, you should be sharing any information you can to steer us in the right direction. You probably aren't getting lynched in the next 24 hours before deadline but in case you do I'd LIKE to at least know who you considered town and scum upon your flip. Hell, a roleclaim might be prudent if you have important shit you can do in the night that would HELP us out so that maybe some protective roles could save you?
But so far you've just been bemoaning how disappointed you are in Kurt rather than actually trying to help us advance the game state in a way that is useful.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 11, 2015 21:06:01 GMT -4
It has everything to do with the hear and now because you SAID you were going to share those insights as soon as Arkia and Rebel showed up. They BOTH have made a post after the fact and yet I don't even see so much as a list describing who you feel is town and scum out of who has posted thus far. Why would you be purposefully witholding such basic information if you were gonna flip town? I can see why as scum because you don't want us analyzing your townie tells in case your scumpartners are there after you flip red. Especially with you being at L-2, if you had ANY vested interest at all with helping us achieve a town victory, you should be sharing any information you can to steer us in the right direction. You probably aren't getting lynched in the next 24 hours before deadline but in case you do I'd LIKE to at least know who you considered town and scum upon your flip. Hell, a roleclaim might be prudent if you have important shit you can do in the night that would HELP us out so that maybe some protective roles could save you? But so far you've just been bemoaning how disappointed you are in Kurt rather than actually trying to help us advance the game state in a way that is useful. have u seriously not been paying attention? i guess my posts mean nothing to u. not to mention i never said ANYTHING abbout having a vested intrest in rebel and arkia showing up other than them not lurking about in which they have. i have as much info as everybody else here aside from the scummy gameplay u and kurt have been showing. i dunno wat conclusions u been drawing but its clearly not a town motivated one. between u and kurt, we already found the majority of our anti town. i really dunno wat more to say to some guy who has really never played here in APW but piece of advice, jumping the gun like u have is usually a scum tell. day 1 and i already found 2. but only time will tell to be truly honest.
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Post by Crusher Crenshaw on Aug 11, 2015 21:13:39 GMT -4
It has everything to do with the hear and now because you SAID you were going to share those insights as soon as Arkia and Rebel showed up. They BOTH have made a post after the fact and yet I don't even see so much as a list describing who you feel is town and scum out of who has posted thus far. Why would you be purposefully witholding such basic information if you were gonna flip town? I can see why as scum because you don't want us analyzing your townie tells in case your scumpartners are there after you flip red. Especially with you being at L-2, if you had ANY vested interest at all with helping us achieve a town victory, you should be sharing any information you can to steer us in the right direction. You probably aren't getting lynched in the next 24 hours before deadline but in case you do I'd LIKE to at least know who you considered town and scum upon your flip. Hell, a roleclaim might be prudent if you have important shit you can do in the night that would HELP us out so that maybe some protective roles could save you? But so far you've just been bemoaning how disappointed you are in Kurt rather than actually trying to help us advance the game state in a way that is useful. have u seriously not been paying attention? i guess my posts mean nothing to u. not to mention i never said ANYTHING abbout having a vested intrest in rebel and arkia showing up other than them not lurking about in which they have. i have as much info as everybody else here aside from the scummy gameplay u and kurt have been showing. i dunno wat conclusions u been drawing but its clearly not a town motivated one. between u and kurt, we already found the majority of our anti town. i really dunno wat more to say to some guy who has really never played here in APW but piece of advice, jumping the gun like u have is usually a scum tell. day 1 and i already found 2. but only time will tell to be truly honest. So I see you're just content being a liar then. Ok. Don't promise to bring special "insights" into the game if you never actually intend to do so. While we're talking about "scumtells" flailing around trying to use appeals to emotions by trying to guilt trip Kurt out of voting for you is ALSO, a scumtell. Judging by the fact that you refuse to share any further information like you said you would and an apparent unwillingness to roleclaim to save yourself in that manner I think it's pretty clear you're scum. By all means, keep flailing. My vote is staying.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 11, 2015 22:02:19 GMT -4
have u seriously not been paying attention? i guess my posts mean nothing to u. not to mention i never said ANYTHING abbout having a vested intrest in rebel and arkia showing up other than them not lurking about in which they have. i have as much info as everybody else here aside from the scummy gameplay u and kurt have been showing. i dunno wat conclusions u been drawing but its clearly not a town motivated one. between u and kurt, we already found the majority of our anti town. i really dunno wat more to say to some guy who has really never played here in APW but piece of advice, jumping the gun like u have is usually a scum tell. day 1 and i already found 2. but only time will tell to be truly honest. So I see you're just content being a liar then. Ok. Don't promise to bring special "insights" into the game if you never actually intend to do so. While we're talking about "scumtells" flailing around trying to use appeals to emotions by trying to guilt trip Kurt out of voting for you is ALSO, a scumtell. Judging by the fact that you refuse to share any further information like you said you would and an apparent unwillingness to roleclaim to save yourself in that manner I think it's pretty clear you're scum. By all means, keep flailing. My vote is staying. wat part of I DONT HAVE ANY MORE INFO OTHER THAN WAT I ALREADY POSTED did u not understand? oh wait let me share my cop info from last night phase......and the doctor protection i gave.....and the role block from last night to keep another townie from dying......ITS DAY 1. if i have to spell it out for u i will tho crusher... my first couple of posts were purposely BULLSHIT in order to see who would nibble the bait. both u, by constant "oh its u, oh its u" useless finger pointing and kurt by over extended defense of u, have taken the bait and were reeled in. then the constant 2v1 attacks to deface my calling u guys out is more proof that i hit the nail on the head. even now, i point out that u both have been "flailing" as u nicely put it with every post and u guys just post back at me with a basic, "nah uh its u, y dont u role claim to save urself...." as if im gonna be stupid enuff to make such a noob move and roleclaim only to be the first dead target night 1. although i AM a betting man as i told kurt. and it WOULD be interesting to see scum fail night 1.....i dunno im gonna have to really think about that but in the meantime. unvote
vote: crusherfor the simple fact that ur trying to get me to roleclaim so early on.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 11, 2015 22:09:22 GMT -4
ebwop
just for the record im off to bed for the night.....dont want people thinking that im ignoring anything
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Post by Crusher Crenshaw on Aug 12, 2015 1:11:19 GMT -4
So you vote for me...because I want you to save yourself...by either providing us with a list of tells and/or roleclaiming...
Have you ever played a game on Mafiascum before? It's pretty standard procedure for players for who are L-2 and L-1 to roleclaim. That's like the basics of the basics. If this is yet another issue "Oh we don't do that here" then I'm not interested in playing another Mafia game here because that's just Rule Fucking #1 about saving yourself as town.
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Post by Crusher Crenshaw on Aug 12, 2015 1:14:35 GMT -4
I also find it funny how you find both Kurt and I scumy but your attempted vote on Kurt gets zero traction so you jump onto me because I'm a viable lynch target for drawing the most attention to myself.
Talk about desperate scum. Keep flailing, it's entertaining to watch scum squirm.
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Post by Speede on Aug 12, 2015 2:12:30 GMT -4
Vote Count 1.2 Crusher Crenshaw: Reaver [1][L-4] Reaver: Crusher Crenshaw, Branden Harvey, Kurt [4][L-1] Rebel: Kaji Fireson [1][L-4] Not Voting: Rebel, Kris, SalTal, Arkia Fisk
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch. Deadline at 11:59pm eastern on Wednesday, August 12.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Aug 12, 2015 2:29:48 GMT -4
Crusher Crenshaw: Some mods prohibited blatant roleclaiming but allow hints. Some prohibited it until you are halfway to being lynched. I will point out for the party's benefit that the rules for this game state neither. (These trends were also from years and years ago, so again, take it with salt.) Also. MODERATORPlease verify that the vote count is correct. There is an apparent contradiction.
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Post by Speede on Aug 12, 2015 2:57:15 GMT -4
MODERATORPlease verify that the vote count is correct. There is an apparent contradiction. The Vote Count is now correct.
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Post by SalTal on Aug 12, 2015 3:48:52 GMT -4
I’ve been tossing up whether to vote Reaver or not for the past few hours. I admit, I wasn’t able to contribute to the back-and-forth that’s been happening, primarily because of our regrettable time differences. Kurt’s logic and thinking is much like mine, and I hesitated voting for Reaver until Kurt threw one down as well. I usually go by trends in posting (both in terms of content and frequency) for judging people on their day phases. So I look at Reaver and what do I see: He’s late to check in (the day after starting by my clock), and when he checks in it’s a real ‘nothing’ post. The kind of post that someone throws in to not draw attention later on in the game. Importantly, Reaver’s first post was AFTER the Crusher suspicion had begun. And what did it do? It added more fuel to the suspicion of Crusher. It stoked the fire. Now, if Crusher turns out to be Reaver’s Mafia partner, Reaver will have some cover saying “AHHA! I suspected him all along - I must be town.” Similarly, if Crusher turns out to be one of us Towns, and Reaver is Mafia, he will be able to say “Dang! Sorry guys! I was wrong just like you all were - plus, I only suspected him, I didn’t even really vote for him!” That’s the line of thinking I imagine was going on when it looked like Crusher was heading towards an easy Day 1 lynch. However, not long after that Kurt comes on and expresses how he isn’t buying into this Crusher suspicion. Kurt really summed up my thinking to that point, and I think that’s pretty clear. And, for my thinking, I think the Crusher suspicion is starting to die off when that happens. I think most people are more concerned with looking at inactive people. But then comes Reaver again (some 15 posts later) and attempts to RESTART the Crusher suspicion, and throwing out a whole lot of nothingness in his posts. Crusher had clearly established himself as a certain style player. It doesn’t clear him, but the idea that his style reflected Mafia … the discussion (I felt) had moved on from “Crusher’s style = Mafia” - especially given the fact that he’s kept up the same style through the height of that suspicion and now that he’s not so much under the microscope. Then Kurt comes in with his second defence of Crusher and begins to overtly suspect Reaver. He’s the first to really lay that out there as a theory. Now at this point, we see the big shift in trends in Reaver. He is very defensive in tone BUT he also starts posting a whole heap more! His content is much more defensive and as soon as HIS suspicion comes up he progressively begins to accuse: Crusher (for the third time) Rebel Arkia Kurt Back to Crusher This, I’m afraid, is called scrambling. I tend to see it when people are panicking and are trying to grab on to anything to keep them afloat. It’s not an only-scum tell, but it’s a contributing factor to my thinking. In the same posts he begins to promise a whole lot more than he delivers. He says that he has a plan … that he has EWC Mafia knowledge … that we don’t understand what he’s doing … exaggeration on the verge of ridicule about the previous night’s “info” (yes, I know that it was a joke, but in my world that’s mud-slinging and an attempt to muddy the water and ‘character assassinate’ anyone who disagrees with you, thus trying to draw in everyone to be suspect, rather than get yourself out of it) … a whole heap of stuff that just reeks of desperation. He says we’re trying to get him to role claim and cites that as a reason to vote for Crusher? And then, the big one - the cover-up: my first couple of posts were purposely BULLSHIT in order to see who would nibble the bait. If you thought you could slip that in and get away with it, I’m sorry but I have to object to it. It’s an attempt to get rid of suspicion. It’s ret-con. It’s trying to say “Hey, I did some suspect stuff before, but guys! I meant to do that! It’s all part of my plan!” That’s horrible game play, saying that you wanted us to suspect you because that would tell us who the Mafia is? Kurt plays great here to keep Reaver active and to keep the suspicion alive on Reaver until we can come to a conclusion. I have come to mine. Due to the scrambling, due to the character assassination, due to the significant shift in tone and trends, the cover-up, I’m left with no real alternative and believe that you’re part of the Mafia. Vote: ReaverI know I’m the hammer, and that;s why I spelled out my reasoning now rather than ‘after the fact’ (which would look guilty as heck!).
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Post by Speede on Aug 12, 2015 4:01:44 GMT -4
No more posting, please. Sally's vote is hammer. I will edit this post shortly to reflect what has happened.
Vote Count 1.FINAL Crusher Crenshaw: Reaver [1][L-4] Reaver: Crusher Crenshaw, Branden Harvey, Kurt, SalTal [5][L-0] Rebel: Kaji Fireson [1][L-4] Not Voting: Rebel, Kris, Arkia Fisk
Before the banquet was even over, gossip was flooding from table to table, and it didn't take long before people were getting worried about the possibility that the Deatheaters were already inside the castle. Several people drew suspicion, but people thought they had the opportunity to take care of a possible Deatheater and protect themselves. They cast their spells u til he was bloodied and battered, and a loud echo of "Avada Kedavra" rang through the halls before they all went to bed and left him to die.
However, their spells proved ineffective, and the one they had chosen to dispose of managed to stand again, and slowly made his way to bed in hopes that the same fate wouldn't befall him the next day.
The lynch has failed.
It is now Night One.
Deadline to submit night actions (since I probably won't be around Friday morning to do them until such a point anyway) is Friday, August 14 at 12:00pm (noon) Eastern.
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Post by Speede on Aug 14, 2015 17:43:36 GMT -4
I am extending the deadline until 11:59pm eastern tonight, approximately 6 hours from now.
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Post by Speede on Aug 15, 2015 2:17:17 GMT -4
As everyone went to bed, several seemed to be worried about the threat of the Deatheaters. However, as they awoke for breakfast and Assembled in the Great Hall to eat, they didn't see anyone missing, or anything out of place, though it was obvious some students might have gone without sleep. They began their meal, talking amongst themselves.
Nobody died night one. Day Two begins Now.
Vote Count 2.0
Not Voting: Rebel, Kris, Reaver, Harvey, Kurt, Kaji, SalTal, Crusher, Arkia Fisk
With 9 Alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Day Two will end on Thursday, August 20 at 3:00am eastern.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Aug 15, 2015 3:40:41 GMT -4
Hm. Interesting. Well, this is the part of the show where night role people start popping up. What have you got peeps?
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Post by Kurt on Aug 15, 2015 7:47:18 GMT -4
Let's talk about the previous day. It appears that one of two things happened to prevent Knuckles from being lynched.
1. He has an x-shot or similar lynchproof ability. 2. Someone intervened in his lynch with an ability.
If it's the former, I can only recall one character that can escape death in the HP universe - Voldemort, through the Horcruxes. Not sure how heavily Speede is leaning on the theme here.
If the latter is true, then we'll see if that information arises.
We may also be looking at a secret voter, given what happened with the vote count yesterday.
As for the lack of a nightkill, either our roleblocker or doctor is doing their job - or the Mafia did not send in a kill. I'm leaning towards their train of thought, given that the night deadline had to be extended.
I don't see any reason to drift away from yesterday's lynch on Knuckles unless new information pushes us in another direction.
More from me later.
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Aug 15, 2015 8:30:55 GMT -4
I think the Mafia didn't send in a kill, due to the fact that Speede extended the deadline, probably trying to get a kill sent in. That tells me that one of the inactives is Mafia. I'm leanig towards Ariska.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 15, 2015 9:50:15 GMT -4
I think the Mafia didn't send in a kill, due to the fact that Speede extended the deadline, probably trying to get a kill sent in. That tells me that one of the inactives is Mafia. I'm leanig towards Ariska. except both arkia and rebel have both been online which makes it all more awkward. could be a tactic to keep the heat on me. Let's talk about the previous day. It appears that one of two things happened to prevent Knuckles from being lynched. 1. He has an x-shot or similar lynchproof ability. 2. Someone intervened in his lynch with an ability. If it's the former, I can only recall one character that can escape death in the HP universe - Voldemort, through the Horcruxes. Not sure how heavily Speede is leaning on the theme here. If the latter is true, then we'll see if that information arises. We may also be looking at a secret voter, given what happened with the vote count yesterday. As for the lack of a nightkill, either our roleblocker or doctor is doing their job - or the Mafia did not send in a kill. I'm leaning towards their train of thought, given that the night deadline had to be extended. I don't see any reason to drift away from yesterday's lynch on Knuckles unless new information pushes us in another direction. More from me later. WOW..... first off, wouldnt voldemort be the gf in this game? him being lynch proof even 1 shot or x-shot would certainly be a lil over powering in this game ESPECIALLY for 9 people. i totally get wat ur saying and it may fit the flavor but to me it seems too much for this particular game. second, theres a reason the lynch failed. thank you by the way (sarcasm) for lynching me in my sleep instead of listening to me. was a nice thing to wake up to....here i was thinking i was sitting at 3 votes and then see a sally vote and realized a double voter was also in place. (not secret voter) and then came to the conclusion of who is confirmed town. not gonna out them just yet but since they were the only person i could trust, i had to jail keep them, along with myself last night which is my guess as to WHY there was no kill. im willing to bet there was at least 2 scum on my vote and figured out who the double voter was just like i did and wanted to kill them. good thing i figured it out first.... your welcome. now that i gave that, id LOVE to hear wat kurt, sally and crusher did last night.....
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Post by Kurt on Aug 15, 2015 15:59:50 GMT -4
So, if I read that correctly...
You're saying you figured out who the doublevoter is, have decided they're town, used a jailkeeper abiity on them, but are refusing to divulge any further.
Okie dokie.
One thing that I do find curious is that Harvey is not on that list - leading me to believe that you're saying that he is the doublevoter and the person you jailkept - or he was omitted from your list for some unknown reason.
That sound about right?
I'm playing this game as straight as I can, so here, I'll entertain you: I have no night action. Happy now?
Going to wait for the rest of the game to check-in before proceeding forward.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 15, 2015 16:33:23 GMT -4
So, if I read that correctly... You're saying you figured out who the doublevoter is, have decided they're town, used a jailkeeper abiity on them, but are refusing to divulge any further. Okie dokie. One thing that I do find curious is that Harvey is not on that list - leading me to believe that you're saying that he is the doublevoter and the person you jailkept - or he was omitted from your list for some unknown reason. That sound about right? I'm playing this game as straight as I can, so here, I'll entertain you: I have no night action. Happy now? Going to wait for the rest of the game to check-in before proceeding forward. yes i am ty
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Post by Kurt on Aug 15, 2015 16:42:02 GMT -4
So, if I read that correctly... You're saying you figured out who the doublevoter is, have decided they're town, used a jailkeeper abiity on them, but are refusing to divulge any further. Okie dokie. One thing that I do find curious is that Harvey is not on that list - leading me to believe that you're saying that he is the doublevoter and the person you jailkept - or he was omitted from your list for some unknown reason. That sound about right? I'm playing this game as straight as I can, so here, I'll entertain you: I have no night action. Happy now? Going to wait for the rest of the game to check-in before proceeding forward. yes i am ty You're going to have to clarify what part of my post your "yes" is referring to.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 15, 2015 17:40:17 GMT -4
was saying yes to all of it up to and including the "happy now"
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Aug 16, 2015 0:17:34 GMT -4
I'm not a double voter. I have no night actions either. But I'm not quite vanilla.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 16, 2015 0:55:12 GMT -4
looking back, the double vote didnt pop up until crusher and kurt votes showed up. i thought it might have been harvey with his double comment which lead a few people to believe he was. I understand what you're saying. I, however, don't believe that that's what you're doing. Honest to God, lynch me and two town will be dead. Three, if you count the scum kill. But I can almost guarentee that Crusher will be scum, if you lynch him. In fact, if he doesn't, go ahead and lynch me tomorrow. so u can see why. am i safe in assuming this was why crusher was originally pushing the harvey lynch? cuz u no something about his "soft claim"? here is the facts, i jail kept harvey last night thinking he was the DV in the assumption he might be the first target but it also came with me as also being "untargetable" in case i was the scum target. and now the write up has this: As everyone went to bed, several seemed to be worried about the threat of the Deatheaters. However, as they awoke for breakfast and Assembled in the Great Hall to eat, they didn't see anyone missing, or anything out of place, though it was obvious some students might have gone without sleep. They began their meal, talking amongst themselves.Nobody died night one. Day Two begins Now.Vote Count 2.0Not Voting: Rebel, Kris, Reaver, Harvey, Kurt, Kaji, SalTal, Crusher, Arkia Fisk With 9 Alive, it takes 5 to lynch.Day Two will end on Thursday, August 20 at 3:00am eastern. which to me means, either he WAS the target and i was able to block it..... or i was the target and it was blocked successfully.... or my action prevented harvey from killing. id like some serious thoughts on this. i cant get lucky on this twice in a row.
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Post by Crusher Crenshaw on Aug 16, 2015 8:19:04 GMT -4
Reaver is clearly Unlynchable Unkillable Hated Townie. Which explains the 1 Less vote needed to lynch him. But apparently on top of him being unlynchable and unkillable he can also roleblock people and God knows how ever many other abilities the mod gave him to screw over the mafia.
Yes I'm Mafia. I give up. I had specific abilities including a One-Shot Ninja Kill and a One-Shot Strongman kill. With the One-Shot Strongman Kill being SPECIFICALLY a kill that was supposed to go through regardless of any protections.
But apparently being a roleblocker means that it's a type of protection that supercedes even a one-shot strongman kill that is SUPPOSED to break through protections.
So riddle me this, Batman. Why the fuck am I given a Kill SPECIFICALLY meant to get around protections if the Mod is just going to create abilities for the town that GET AROUND the getting around protections? Hm? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense does it? Why not just let me have a normal kill that doesn't even set up an expectation of being a Strongman Kill if it WASN'T GOING TO GET PAST PROTECTIONS TO BEGIN WITH?!
So not only is this a game of Mafia in which the town gets a townie that cannot be lynched no matter how anti-town they act, but they also cannot be killed no matter what ability the mafia uses AND they also get other special perks like roleblocks because gee making it so that the Mafia CANNOT KILL REAVER AT ALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES is just oh so fucking balanced and fair to all parties involved right?
You might say "This is just a game" but I don't particularly enjoy being specifically screwed over as the new guy on the block making all of my apparent abilities useless. You might as well of just said "Fuck the newbie let's make him a Tree Stump for his ability". This game has soured my first actual social experience with you all as a whole and has thus ruined any chances of me wanting to even become a part of this community.
So I'm out. I'm out of this game as Mafia. I'm out of this fed as a writer. Job me out, I don't care. I'm gone. Logging off. Not coming back even though I will have morbid curiosity to see how much shit I'd get for doing this so publicly to begin with, but no. I'm not a drama queen. When I say I'm done I'm done. You won't be hearing from me again.
Next time you want to try some sort of "Mafia" revival, consult some outside Mafiascum judges or something to make sure your fucking set up is balanced. Because giving the town an unkillable, unlynchable, roleblocking super townie with God knows how many other abilities is THE quickest way to ENSURE the Mafia don't even stand a fucking chance.
I don't blame Reaver. Not one bit. Hell if I had a completely immune role that made it so that I could do whatever the fuck I wanted and still be guaranteed cleared townie because nobody can even lynch me or kill me ANYWAY than you bet your ass I'd take full advantage of that and be as obnoxiously anti-town as possible. Hell, not like you can do anything about it anyway you CAN'T LYNCH HIM!
What a bunch of fucking bullshit.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 16, 2015 9:40:00 GMT -4
wow
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Post by Reaver on Aug 16, 2015 9:58:29 GMT -4
not sure of all the night actions that happened last night crusher but assuming ur right and speede mod kills u for being an ass like this, i just wanna point out that not only were u called out day 1 by others but i personally had u dead to rights; nailed it. and somehow u convinced others with the help of kurt (not sure yet if town or scum) to follow u and ur prolly gonna kick urself cuz that was arguably the ticket to the MVP at the end of game. sorry u had a bad time but for the record, u ARE wrong in ur assumption of my role.
good luck....
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Post by Kurt on Aug 16, 2015 10:21:11 GMT -4
not sure of all the night actions that happened last night crusher but assuming ur right and speede mod kills u for being an ass like this, i just wanna point out that not only were u called out day 1 by others but i personally had u dead to rights; nailed it. and somehow u convinced others with the help of kurt (not sure yet if town or scum) to follow u and ur prolly gonna kick urself cuz that was arguably the ticket to the MVP at the end of game. sorry u had a bad time but for the record, u ARE wrong in ur assumption of my role. good luck.... I'm going to ignore Crusher's outrage for a moment. Of the people on your bandwagon... Crusher was Mafia. Harvey has admitted not being the doublevoter. Sally's vote came after the votecount at 4. Me. Vote: Crusher
There you go.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 16, 2015 10:26:47 GMT -4
i got that, and to me clears u as town. as for harvey and sally? dont really know....but my action last nite was the right 1
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Aug 16, 2015 10:53:45 GMT -4
I guess that's that.
Vote: Crusher
What a dick.
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