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Post by Reaver on Aug 16, 2015 11:18:43 GMT -4
id rather not vote for him if in the event he is lying and is a joker. id rather he get modkilled.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 16, 2015 11:45:58 GMT -4
That pretty much put a damper on the game as a whole. Being that less than half the players have checked in on day two, I'm not certain how much more active this game will be.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 16, 2015 11:57:33 GMT -4
agreed. its depressing.....im all for finishing the game tho. just cuz 1 asshole is mad doesnt mean the rest of the scum team have to be cheated
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Aug 16, 2015 13:29:08 GMT -4
Dude wants to be an asshole? Let him. Fuck him. Move on and finish the game.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 16, 2015 14:25:01 GMT -4
anyways, moving on.....b4 the day is cancelled due to modkill
we need more activity. ive seen kris, sally, kaji, arkia, and rebel all lurking in the backround wtf?
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Post by Speede on Aug 16, 2015 14:47:23 GMT -4
Reaver is clearly Unlynchable Unkillable Hated Townie. Which explains the 1 Less vote needed to lynch him. But apparently on top of him being unlynchable and unkillable he can also roleblock people and God knows how ever many other abilities the mod gave him to screw over the mafia. Yes I'm Mafia. I give up. I had specific abilities including a One-Shot Ninja Kill and a One-Shot Strongman kill. With the One-Shot Strongman Kill being SPECIFICALLY a kill that was supposed to go through regardless of any protections. But apparently being a roleblocker means that it's a type of protection that supercedes even a one-shot strongman kill that is SUPPOSED to break through protections. So riddle me this, Batman. Why the fuck am I given a Kill SPECIFICALLY meant to get around protections if the Mod is just going to create abilities for the town that GET AROUND the getting around protections? Hm? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense does it? Why not just let me have a normal kill that doesn't even set up an expectation of being a Strongman Kill if it WASN'T GOING TO GET PAST PROTECTIONS TO BEGIN WITH?! So not only is this a game of Mafia in which the town gets a townie that cannot be lynched no matter how anti-town they act, but they also cannot be killed no matter what ability the mafia uses AND they also get other special perks like roleblocks because gee making it so that the Mafia CANNOT KILL REAVER AT ALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES is just oh so fucking balanced and fair to all parties involved right? You might say "This is just a game" but I don't particularly enjoy being specifically screwed over as the new guy on the block making all of my apparent abilities useless. You might as well of just said "Fuck the newbie let's make him a Tree Stump for his ability". This game has soured my first actual social experience with you all as a whole and has thus ruined any chances of me wanting to even become a part of this community. So I'm out. I'm out of this game as Mafia. I'm out of this fed as a writer. Job me out, I don't care. I'm gone. Logging off. Not coming back even though I will have morbid curiosity to see how much shit I'd get for doing this so publicly to begin with, but no. I'm not a drama queen. When I say I'm done I'm done. You won't be hearing from me again. Next time you want to try some sort of "Mafia" revival, consult some outside Mafiascum judges or something to make sure your fucking set up is balanced. Because giving the town an unkillable, unlynchable, roleblocking super townie with God knows how many other abilities is THE quickest way to ENSURE the Mafia don't even stand a fucking chance. I don't blame Reaver. Not one bit. Hell if I had a completely immune role that made it so that I could do whatever the fuck I wanted and still be guaranteed cleared townie because nobody can even lynch me or kill me ANYWAY than you bet your ass I'd take full advantage of that and be as obnoxiously anti-town as possible. Hell, not like you can do anything about it anyway you CAN'T LYNCH HIM! What a bunch of fucking bullshit. Alright, this is at the very least a modkill and the end of the day phase. I am still deciding if we should even bother to continue the game right now. |
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Post by Reaver on Aug 16, 2015 15:35:26 GMT -4
like i said roy, y ruin things for the rest IF and only IF the rest of the people remain active
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Post by Kris on Aug 16, 2015 16:42:11 GMT -4
I'm sorry for not being active before this. I'm at that switch between second and third shift, so trying to find a minute to be coherent and contribute has been difficult. I was actually in the middle of working up a post when I reminded myself that I need to click the '5' and see what came of the drama queen's nonsense.
I say we continue the game, but it's your call Speede.
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Post by SalTal on Aug 16, 2015 18:32:50 GMT -4
Apologies for not being more active since the game resumed. If the game proceeds I'll be all over it.
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Aug 16, 2015 23:25:35 GMT -4
So, Speede, what was Crusher Shitshaw's role?
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Post by Reaver on Aug 17, 2015 0:28:26 GMT -4
i think he is still debating to cancel the game. regardless, he needs to mod killed. apw mafia games r hard when nobody including the mod wants to be active.
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Post by Speede on Aug 17, 2015 5:42:04 GMT -4
After much debate, I've decided that since the majority with whom I've communicated wish to continue, we can continue.
MODKILLED: Crusher Crenshaw - Lucius Malfoy - Deatheater-Aligned Loyal Servant (JOAT). His win condition has been redetermine do to that of a Survivor, and thus he has lost the game.
Day Two restarts NOW.
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
VC 2.0.1
Not voting: Everybody
Deadline is Saturday, August 22 at 12:00am eastern (which is slightly shorter than a full five days due to the fact that I will be away from Saturday morning through Sunday afternoon and would be unable to declare an end to the day otherwise)
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Post by Reaver on Aug 17, 2015 9:35:11 GMT -4
good call, now lets get some activity. who else did what?
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Post by Reaver on Aug 17, 2015 15:00:06 GMT -4
ok i have a theory as to y i didnt die last nite seeing as how it appears that crusher got bent out of shape at me NOT dying. Yes I'm Mafia. I give up. I had specific abilities including a One-Shot Ninja Kill and a One-Shot Strongman kill. With the One-Shot Strongman Kill being SPECIFICALLY a kill that was supposed to go through regardless of any protections. this leads me to believe i was the nite target and if he used his strong arm kill which it appears he tried, then the only other explanation is that i also got a doctor protect in which i TY heavily for. the strong arm may have gone through 1 protection but not possibly 2 i assume. this is what makes sense to me the most anyways... |
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Post by Kris on Aug 17, 2015 17:25:49 GMT -4
Maybe there was a doctor protecting you, but what I can say for sure is that Crusher was at the very least blocked by another party.
It made me giggle my ass off, how wrong he was.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 17, 2015 19:02:51 GMT -4
wat do u mean by wrong?
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Post by SalTal on Aug 18, 2015 5:32:55 GMT -4
Hey guys!
I FINALLY have some time to sit down and write something up substantive.
Wow, Crusher. What a real shame. Let’s remember, everyone, this is a game. Let’s not have another one of those meltdowns. It’s a shame, because I imagine the Mafia is in a tizzy now that it’s lost one third or half or a quarter (what did we ever decide on?) of their members. But still, fun should be our priority!
Now, onto the new Day 2.
I will throw my hand up for being the hammer. There’s nothing I can hide behind, I guess. But I did lay my logic out as to why. I stand by it only in as much as it seemed right at the time.
I don’t want to get all Reaver on you all, but knew that *if* something went wrong in lynching Reaver - ie. he had a significant power role - then we had a back-up who could replace him. So we would only be down a vanilla townie in my thinking. That was the only motive I didn’t write into that post.
I think Reaver has now detailed the previous night to the point that I am satisfied (for now) that he is Town. I don’t think anyone else has been cleared, right?
I know that if I were Mafia, I’d be freaking out about having lost Crusher and laying low. He seemed like the ‘spearhead’ for their accusations and I strongly feel that the rest of the Mafia was ‘hiding’ behind him. To that end, I think that if we’re going to sniff out a Mafia member right now, we want to look at the quiet ones: Rebel and Fisk would be priority 1 and 2 now. And after that, I’d say we look at who was semi-active through Day 1 and is quite quiet now in Day 2.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 18, 2015 8:57:33 GMT -4
we have too many lurkers around and i dunno if its cuz people r playing too safe or wat but its hurting the game.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Aug 18, 2015 10:23:43 GMT -4
Well, we're obviously back at square one- despite Crenshaw completely breaking down.
You can gladly check in to me - I did submit something for the first night phase but my result isn't necessarily helpful at this point. The only thing I can verify is that if Reaver wasn't the target on night one.
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Post by Kris on Aug 18, 2015 17:51:26 GMT -4
How many ways was Crusher wrong? Let us count the ways.
1) I'm highly entertained at how he assumed Reaver was permanently lynchproof instead of it being a one shot. Considering the people that could be... I think I know which character Reaver is, and I'm not so sure it's He Who Shall Not Be Named for one very simple reason. He's not the only character that comes back from the dead. Another character-- Harry--came back precisely once, which makes more sense than ol' Voldy who rose again and again and again if I remember right.
2) Crusher also assumed that he was given the quote-unquote short end of the stick when, by the sounds of things? He actually had a very strong-sounding character, not to mention how his role was picked at random like the rest of us. No, no-- he was having a tantrum becaaaause... his strongman kill didn't go through. Why?
2) He never considered the idea of how many layers of protection, for lack of a better word, he would be able to break through. My guess is that he never asked, or even considered the idea of there being more than one role block...to which I know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that there was for one very simple reason.
4) Not only was Reaver roleblocking/jailkeeping, but so was someone else-- and that someone else targeted Crusher. I know that for a fact.
5) Crusher's whiny self was also wrong about the quality of our OOC scene as a whole and also about not being a drama queen, but that's not so much relevant to the game so much as it is relevant to him being a dingus.
Does that explain things?
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Post by Reaver on Aug 18, 2015 18:04:48 GMT -4
i think u nailed it kris.....completely  being unkillable for x-amount of turns would make it WAY overpowered since this is only a game of 9 originally. now if it was 20? then yes id agree with that. |
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Aug 18, 2015 20:10:44 GMT -4
Let's stop focusing on Crusher and focus on the rest of the scum. I'll start with:
Vote: Rebel
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Aug 18, 2015 20:55:54 GMT -4
Let's stop focusing on Crusher and focus on the rest of the scum. I'll start with: Vote: RebelReasoning? |
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Post by Reaver on Aug 19, 2015 0:42:37 GMT -4
im gonna give branden til tomorrow b4 we go any further...
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Aug 19, 2015 8:29:09 GMT -4
I just have a feeling, like I did about Crusher.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Aug 19, 2015 8:46:18 GMT -4
I just have a feeling, like I did about Crusher. You sure it isn't just gas? The reason I posted was because the game had just started and I felt I had to post and say SOMETHING. So I read the posts and felt Kaji's post was the most agreeable and stated that because, as I said, I felt I needed to say something. I think it's funny that you're voting for me based on a simple comment.Vote: CrusherI find it odd that you leaped on Crenshaw earlier when he voted for you after a simple comment. Aren't you doing the same thing here? Voting for me because of a quick gut feeling? |
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Post by Reaver on Aug 19, 2015 14:42:28 GMT -4
I just have a feeling, like I did about Crusher. You sure it isn't just gas? The reason I posted was because the game had just started and I felt I had to post and say SOMETHING. So I read the posts and felt Kaji's post was the most agreeable and stated that because, as I said, I felt I needed to say something. I think it's funny that you're voting for me based on a simple comment.Vote: CrusherI find it odd that you leaped on Crenshaw earlier when he voted for you after a simple comment. Aren't you doing the same thing here? Voting for me because of a quick gut feeling? well, in all fairness, crusher was a little TOO suspecting of other people and to finish it off......he WAS scum. so are u in turn trying to defend crusher? based on the last comment, im just gonna Vote: Rebelthis seems logical to me. |
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Aug 19, 2015 17:09:29 GMT -4
I'm not trying to defend Crusher - there is nothing to defend. The guy was a madman and folded when things didn't go his way in a game. I'm simply stating out the fallacies in Branden's logic in voting for me when he called out Crusher for doing the exact same thing?
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Post by Reaver on Aug 20, 2015 0:02:15 GMT -4
but his fallacies lead him to a scum member who outed himself. so essentially he was right. is he right a second time?
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Post by Kris on Aug 20, 2015 0:53:05 GMT -4
I'm not willing to lay down a vote on J-Reb just yet. If anything, I find it telling that Reaver is following Branden's 'gut feeling' when that first time success is something that Branden essentially blundered onto. A broken clock is right twice a day, but I'm not willing to throw a vote down without more information.
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being unkillable for x-amount of turns would make it WAY overpowered since this is only a game of 9 originally. now if it was 20? then yes id agree with that.
