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Post by Blade on Nov 14, 2011 11:05:41 GMT -4
I just need a number and I have scum. But not everyone will tell the truth
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 14, 2011 11:27:57 GMT -4
Why would others get notes saying you are an apprentice? A better question is, who the hell got these notes? I got one, I just don't know why it would be sent to me. I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to paint the target on my back for night time. It came last night just before James came out claiming that he got Knuckles' name as scum. Said that one of the apprentices was among us and had James' name highlighted in red. And Blade, what number are you waiting for? Everyone has mentioned one except you...
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 14, 2011 11:28:14 GMT -4
Gates, others were notified because I used my action. Remember when I said there were consequences for me using my one-shot ability? That was one of the consequences. Surprised nobody said anything. It might just be some BS though but that was the second thing that happened other than me becoming basically a miller.
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 11:28:15 GMT -4
I just need a number and I have scum. But not everyone will tell the truth Speaking of numbers, you are still the only one who hasn't bothered sharing your note. I know I've read quite a few posts asking you to confirm the list. Can you?
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 14, 2011 11:36:08 GMT -4
I don't think the alphabetical thing is where it's at, Arcadia. If my interpretation of what I've kind of figured out is right, then it's not, anyways. But I won't be able to tell until (hopefully) tomorrow if I survive.
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Post by Kurt on Nov 14, 2011 11:47:01 GMT -4
***Note: Please do NOT edit your posts for any reason. This is your warning Atkens***If you're good at anticipating the human mind, it leaves nothing to chance. ~-Jigsaw~ Vote List:C.J. Gates - 1 (Pence Weatherlight) Blade - 1 (Arcadia) Knuckles -2 (JamesV, Lester "L1" Only) JamesV - 3 (Knuckles, President Jeff, CJ Gates) Day 2 Ends at 11 AM EST, November 15th. (24 Hours Remain) With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to be tested.
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 12:05:45 GMT -4
Our votes are a little split down the middle.
unvote
I don't really know where to go from here. But the JamesV/knuckles train seems like the one to jump on, if I could pick a side.
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 14, 2011 12:06:21 GMT -4
I really don't like this ''After the fact'' bullshit that's been going on in this game. CJ, you should've just came out with it from the start.
Still, I'm mainly confused as to why didn't we establish there were going to be notes sent around the first post in? It would have made your case (JamesV) to lynch Knuckles a lot more stronger.
So, we establish;
A) JamesV turns into a miller after his role is used. B) There are apparently notes that CJ confirmed; stating that JamesV is one of the apprentices.
Playing devil advocates here; JamesV's already suspiciously timed role has just added another twist. It seems that if Knuckles does end up flipping town; he'll have an option C to explain it.
Is there anything else we should know about you while we're at it?
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 12:07:45 GMT -4
You know what? James has pretty much told us his role....At 4 votes, roleclaiming is allowed and I want to here what knuckles has to say. So
vote: knuckles
let's here it, dude.
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 12:09:10 GMT -4
EWOP
Hear* ....twice.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 14, 2011 12:12:38 GMT -4
Yeah I should have, but I didn't want to paint the target on me by coming out of the blue with a note. I tried to make my case for him without the note, but it still seems like people are believing James and thinking Knuckles is the best lynch.
I'll weigh in more after work.
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 12:16:39 GMT -4
I don't necessarily think knuckles is the best lynch, but I'm trying to afford him the opportunity to explain his role and perhaps prove himself town or other by voting at more than half. I can retract later.
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Post by Blade on Nov 14, 2011 12:30:41 GMT -4
Notice how my vote didnt show? yeah I am cleared.
Ok, arcadia, everyone has given a number, please show me a list of the numbers people have claimed?
1) 2) etc
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Post by Reaver on Nov 14, 2011 13:00:36 GMT -4
actually, he was only at 3 votes when he is "claiming" his so called role. if it takes 7 to lynch then by that logic, he is definately not half way. since he didnt get mod killed for "claiming", then that should show that he is lying about this whole thing rite? hasnt he been doing this before any of his votes?
unlike him, im going to hold off on a role claim a lil longer. i dont need to be mod killed.
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 14:50:17 GMT -4
Okay, Blade, here's the list so far that we were looking for numbers on. It's been alphabetized, and originally, everyone thought that it seemed to correllate, though it looks like now som people are rethinking that, however I still think it makes sense this way.
1. Arcadia - #1 2. CJ - #2 3. James -#3 4. JC -#4 5. Jesse Nunez -#5 6. Johnny Rebel -#6 7. Kaji -#7 8. Knuckles -#8 9. Level One -#13 10. Nathaniel Havok (Blade) - 11.Pence Weatherlight -#10 12. Phil Atkens -#11 13. President Jeff -#12
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 14:51:59 GMT -4
What kind of role would make Blade's vote for L-1 not show up?
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Post by Nick Watson on Nov 14, 2011 14:58:10 GMT -4
Actually, I hate to tell you guys, but after coming home after work, and looking at the inbox...I too received a message about JamesV. I know this is going to put the largest possible bulls eye on the back of my head, but we need to be clear here that JamesV has revealed himself to be scum. However...this could be all a "Test", meaning this could actually be us going out on a limb only to get rid of a town. I'm going to unvote and wait...something is weird about all this to me, but I just can't put my damn finger on it!
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Post by Nick Watson on Nov 14, 2011 15:01:35 GMT -4
Unvote
Forgot something!
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Post by jc on Nov 14, 2011 15:28:53 GMT -4
Right now, I am more inclined to believe james for one reason... The tests.
Right before james comes out with his info, notes are sent out telling people he is scum. Now it looks like the test is for james to convince us all thar knuckles is scum with all of this damning evidence against him. The deck is stacked against james in this one, and I don't see why it would make sense for the mod to just send out random notes to people revealing a member of the mafia.
vote: knuckles
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 14, 2011 15:58:28 GMT -4
I think either way it works, we can deal with both of them unless the scum kills the other. If we lynch knuckles and hes scum, then we can safely assume James isn't for now. If we lynch James and he's town, then we can go safely knowing Knuckles probably isn't.
I still don't know if I buy what James is selling. His claim of miller came, I think, before he had the number of votes needed to claim safely, and he wasn't modkilled. Of course, that might be because his role changed, I guess? If that makes sense...
And Pence basically summed up my thoughts. I wanted to try and talk the case against James out to see if it made sense that I'd get a note saying his scum when he isn't. That was why I held off telling I got a note until now.
And I still don't believe alphabetical has something to do with it. As I said, I have a theory, but I want to wait until the next day to tell it because of the numbers. Want to see if the next 1 or 2 dead confirm it.
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Post by Reaver on Nov 14, 2011 16:06:25 GMT -4
all the more reason to suspect james. wat role would give him abilities during the day?
he claims to be the miller which makes no sense to me cuz..... cuz IM the miller....(i can now safely say that with out getting mod killed since i have more than half the lynch votes). wat ever he did that made him look at me would show up to him as scum anyways. y would this game have 2 millers? i swear to god im the miller i promise. if i have to give up both testicle to prove it ill gladly do it.
let me just ask u, how is it that he can claim his role with less than half of the lynch votes when the rules clearly state that if he does that he would get mod killed? he has YET to be killed proving that he is lying about me in order to push a lynch making him the scum.
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Post by President Jeff on Nov 14, 2011 16:26:57 GMT -4
I got the same note about James. I didn't want to say anything earlier cause it would look weird on my part of I randomly outed James like that, but since other people got the same note, I think its safe to say that we Lynch James
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Post by Arcadia on Nov 14, 2011 16:53:43 GMT -4
unvote
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 14, 2011 18:44:43 GMT -4
Knuckles, if you're a miller then WHY didn't you say it after I claimed to have a similar role? I never said specifically I was a miller. I said my role was similar to a miller. There's a difference. That's why I'm not modkilled. Does a miller have a one shot ability? No, I think not. In other words here's a synopsis of my role: I can ask for the name of one apprentice AT ANY TIME. I repeat AT ANY TIME for anyone who hasn't figured that part out yet. Secondly I become guilty when investigated. Thirdly, upon using my one shot action, several TOWN and SCUM players will be notified of my actions. That's it. That's my role in a nutshell. Did I EVER claim to be a Miller? No, I said it was LIKE a Miller role. Millers do not have any actions at all. Those are two different things entirely hence why I am still active in the game.
Jeff, I told you about the note, correct? Why would scum out themselves as scum? Does that make any sense? No, I think not. Only an idiot would do that and I'm not an idiot. I'm the one guy who actually did something and when I get lynched, which seemingly now I probably will, then maybe you guys will see the light about who's really lying in this entire scenario. I put myself on the line to net scum and it seems like it's all for nothing judging by what I've read on here.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 14, 2011 18:46:22 GMT -4
Right now, I am more inclined to believe james for one reason... The tests. Right before james comes out with his info, notes are sent out telling people he is scum. Now it looks like the test is for james to convince us all thar knuckles is scum with all of this damning evidence against him. The deck is stacked against james in this one, and I don't see why it would make sense for the mod to just send out random notes to people revealing a member of the mafia. vote: knuckles All you need to know about my role is in this post. Somebody gets it.
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Post by jc on Nov 14, 2011 18:46:54 GMT -4
unvote
One of them is lying. If anyone its at an actual pc, can they confirm deadline.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Nov 14, 2011 18:48:26 GMT -4
Deadline is at 11 AM Tomorrow Morning (EST)
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Post by President Jeff on Nov 14, 2011 18:51:19 GMT -4
Why would a few of us all get the same note saying james V is scum if its not true. Doesn't make sense to me
If we're gonna lynch someone, may as well be James and then see what happens
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Post by Reaver on Nov 14, 2011 19:00:23 GMT -4
wat part of mod kill did u not understand james? u may have gotten off with a technicality but i couldnt risk it. all i did was follow the rules of the games which is y i didnt say anything.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Nov 14, 2011 19:03:23 GMT -4
You couldn't risk it or you're lying about your role? I think you're lying about your role. I also have noticed that Jeff has been pushing for me to be voted out this entire time. Once I'm revealed to be town it should be easy to figure out what two players to look at. Bottom line is I got a note saying that you're the secret apprentice and I'm going with the info I got by using my one action in the game. No simpler way to put it than that.
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