SAW Mafia Game Thread

[C.J. Gates]

Nov 8, 2011 0:01:43 GMT -4 Phil Atken said:

Flavour of the game is not the game, roles and actions of people is the game. We could all be playing "Dirk Strongjaw: Moon Ranger Mafia" and it wouldn't matter a jot whether people considered it a masterpiece of cinematic genius or not, it would not be linked to their role and it would not be linked to how they were playing.

I'd agree with this. Doesn't matter what the theme is if you want to play or not.

As an aside, Kaji...I know it was a joke vote, but how does JC get your vote for voting promptly...after like 4 other people lol

[C.J. Gates]

EBWOP

for posting promptly, not voting promptly...

[Phil Atken]

As an aside, Dirk Strongjaw: Moon Ranger is gonna be my Overdrive character.

[Kaji Fireson]

It's not because of his behavior compared to other people's behavior, it's because of his behavior compared to his behavior in past games.

Also, people that aren't Ceej...yeah, everything's fair game.

Also, Arcadia...I think that we should. Maybe not until tomorrow (in game), but a little while. See where everyone stands.

[Level-Two]

Atkins pretty much hit the nail on the head here about all this nonsense. A part of me enjoys the action early on but another part tells me this bickering is just one big distraction and won't get us anywhere if it continues. Assuming you both are town just STFU because the last thing we need is a day one mislynch.

[Michael Jennings]

Nov 8, 2011 0:12:00 GMT -4 Kaji Fireson said:

It's not because of his behavior compared to other people's behavior, it's because of his behavior compared to his behavior in past games.

FINALLY somebody sees my whole point. JC never is like this in games. He almost always is not one of the more talkative players in games until the mid-point of the game. He's a lot more active than normal in this game hence my point about this being about game. People can think what they want but the fact is I'm playing the game whether you want to see it or not.

Nov 7, 2011 23:55:38 GMT -4 Jesse Nuñez™ said:

Well to me playing a game that has something to do with SAW when you do not like the movies at all is pretty fishy. Why play the game then? Unless your motive is to kill us off cause thats the only way where you can get off on and have fun.

I'm leaning toward you being Jigsaw just for this post. That last sentence reeks of someone trying to manipulate people into forming a bandwagon. If I was scum, I'd be doing exactly what you did in this post more specifically the bolded part. Right now you're number one on my suspects list just for this post alone.

To answer your query I play mafia to play mafia. I've played games in themes I've hated before and openly ripped them in games just like this. I call it like I see it and that's just another example of me doing just that.

Nov 8, 2011 0:19:08 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Atkins pretty much hit the nail on the head here about all this nonsense. A part of me enjoys the action early on but another part tells me this bickering is just one big distraction and won't get us anywhere if it continues. Assuming you both are town just STFU because the last thing we need is a day one mislynch.

Going to agree with the bolded part. As far as distractions I can see what you're saying there but we're only what, less than 12 hours into the game. Better now than day two or three. The people I'm looking at are the ones trying to hide behind my argument with JC and sneak to the background so nobody suspects them.

[Michael Jennings]

EBWOP

I'm leaning toward you being Jigsaw or one of his associates just for this post.

[C.J. Gates]

Nov 8, 2011 0:49:37 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

EBWOP

I'm leaning toward you being Jigsaw or one of his associates just for this post.

I'm pretty sure Noble is Jigsaw as the moderator, and all the mafia in this game as his associates...not saying the point doesn't work, just stating that there is no active Jigsaw (according to the rules post).

[Michael Jennings]

Ah, ok. Well then associate then. That one comment by him sticks out to me out of everything said thus far on here since the argument started.

[Phil Atken]

You do have a point there, to push a case that stupid in a sincere manner does stand out.

[Reaver]

i have to admit, i love how well this game already has come along. im going to hold off a lil and see what else develops before making any hasty interpretations.

[Nick Watson]

Got my role.

Anyway, been out for a bit, and didn't realize we started this up. So lets get rolling shall we? Any clue as to who we are looking at as the scum this game around?

[jc]

Actually, james, I believe kaji is talking about the fact that I was one of the early posters, because lately games have started over the weekend so I don't check in until a day or two have already passed. In regards to your comment about my activity though, if I don't see anything worth commenting about I won't. I'm not an aggresive player liked you, and prefer to let the game part out and watch and learn how others post.

Now like I said before, your posts seem to be a tad bit on the defensive side. Going by past games play likes you claim to be doing with me, then I would have to lam toward you being scum because you normally part an aggresive game but hardly ever over react. And in my opinion, that is what you are doing here.

[Arcadia]

This is a stupid argument. We're locked in a mansion and we're all gonna die if we don't work as a group and think as a group and you two are already pointing fingers and drawing lines in the sand. STFU and think about what we have in common, because it obviously isn't play styles. Or whether we liked SAW or not. How about if no one wants to share their notes right off due to trust, we throw out a few questions to see if any of us can figure out what we have in common?

Have any of you been to jail?

[Michael Jennings]

So I'm being aggressive and you're leaning toward me being scum, right JC? On the CWC game where I was scum MVP I did the total opposite of that so your explanation about how I could be scum is faulty just for that reason alone. Also there is a difference between aggressive and defensive. I am being aggressive, bottom line.

[Reaver]

since ur being so aggressive then james, ya got anything that might be helpful this early? does anybody for that matter? any info to hel us find the scum would most definitely be useful. then again i guess its too early to say?

[Kaji Fireson]

Why is it that I seem to be the only one reading Arcadia's posts? It's almost as if she's invisible to everyone else.

On the subject of notes, I could have sworn I said this in my other post, but I left a few words out apparently, so I'll reiterate that while I think sharing the notes is a good idea, we should wait until closer to deadline to see how things play out. On the subject of jail, no, I have not been to jail.

[Arcadia]

Thanks, Kaji. I appreciate you trying.

[jc]

Your right, james, there is a difference between aggresive and defensive. Thing is you being aggressive is not why I think you are scum. I think you are scum because of the easy you over reacted to a comment that was merely an observation of the game, and something you find yourself having trouble to let go of because then it would bee even more obvious that you were being defensive.

Your only way out of the hole you dug yourself is to continue to come after me to show the others you are indeed being aggressive. But you still continue to defend yourself with every post. Bringing up a game at cwc as proof of how you play as scum. Thing is, this isn't that game, and why I said your past game pay would less me to belief you are scum since it had changed. Would be kind of obvious what your alignment was if you played every game the same depending on your role.

As far as arcadia goes. Though it does not say it, jail time coulda have been possible. I don't think noble would make what we had in common that obvious though. He wants us to think, and in order to do that we ned to discuss more than just what we may out may not have in common, because the scum could always just side with the majority to blend in.

You need to dig deeper, focus on where you started not where you are now.

[President Jeff]

Right now, I don't know what to think. There's really nothing to go on as who could be scum. The back and forth between JC and James makes me feel like Stephan Hart is back playing the game.

Has everyone who signed up checked in yet?

[Michael Jennings]

JC, the fact is I only play this aggressive when I'm town. That's whole point you're missing. If I was scum would I be coming out this aggressively? Hell no. That would the dumbest game move in the history of mafia. Instead I'd be sitting back like a few people are doing and let everyone else go at it. The people who are avoiding the attention are the ones I'm looking at, namely Nunez who I mentionned earlier. Also JC you've played games with me enough to know how I play and every time I've been this aggressive I've been town. EVERY TIME. I could provide references, links, and whatnot but you'd probably deflect everything back onto me like you're doing now. Right now I'm really suspicious of your motives just for those reasons.

Knuckles, the people who are being quiet or are trying to avoid joining in with all the chatter are the ones I'm looking at. Already mentionned one name. Atken has been making sarcastic posts so he might be another one to look at. Arcadia asking if anyone can help

To answer Arcadia's question no, I have not been to jail.

[C.J. Gates]

If neither of you are laying down votes on each other, I think the argument can be dropped for now, and maybe revisited if something comes up...if that makes any sense. It's providing too much of a cover for the scum to hang under.

And yes, Arcadia, I have.

[Reaver]

u mean the game or IRL gates?

[President Jeff]

I haven't been to jail Arcadia

[Phil Atken]

Hold up. why are we willingly giving information to Arcadia?

[Phil Atken]

Also Varga, I'd hardly call pointing out how useless it is to argue about whether liking SAW or not is a scum tell being sarcastic.

[C.J. Gates]

Nov 8, 2011 20:50:53 GMT -4 Phil Atken said:

Hold up. why are we willingly giving information to Arcadia?

Well, we have to work together to find the apprentices, so she was trying to find the possible similarities. It's always possible she is scum, though scum already knows whos town, so the only thing they could do would be to find out the power roles.

And you're also assuming that people are giving the real information...

[Phil Atken]

To be honest, I think right now our roles should be played close to our chest. Yes, we have to work together but right now the way Arcadia keeps pushing about the notes and tries to tease out answers seems suspect. I'd say certainly information in the notes must be tied to her role. Now that could be town, or it could be scum.

Now yes, scum know who town is but we don't know their powers beyond that. I'd say right now in terms of what we have to go on Arcadia and Nunez have both caught my attention. Nunez for his terrible Varga case in what was looking like an early day bandwagon and Arcadia for reasons stated.

[President Jeff]

I never saw any SAW movies. What does being jail have to do with anything?

[Phil Atken]

I've never seen it either. I'm just basing this on general information hunting in a Mafia game.