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Post by Reaver on Dec 14, 2011 17:03:47 GMT -4
i think his interest is not to get a fellow scum family member lynched. nobody has bothered to think outside the box on any of this. read my posts and its obvious how rite i am.
was funny is that she is 1 vote away from a lynch. had this been a different game of mafia, she would have been done already. u really wanna let a scum go free?
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Post by Reaver on Dec 14, 2011 17:09:01 GMT -4
ebwop....
wheres JC in all this?
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Post by Kurt on Dec 14, 2011 17:41:28 GMT -4
Now, onto Julius... Advocating a random lynch when it had no benefit to the town, only mafia.- Except...you know...she was right. Think about it like this: when town are in the majority, a randomly guessed lynch hurts them. When mafia are in the majority, who does a random lynch hurt? Them. It's a statistical advantage, not a scumtell. But, Arcadia never advocated for a "random" lynch. She just mentioned that the numbers meant we were more likely to lynch a scum...which is TRUE. I will only respond to this one counterargument because, unfortunately, it is the only one that has any argumentation in it, and this is fallacious too. At the time we knew of two mafia families, there were 13 players in the game, and it was assumed that there were no more than 3 mafioso in each family. I'm no maths boffin but this means no more than 6 mafioso, which leaves 7 townsfolk. Like I said, I'm no maths boffin, but how does a random lynch statistically favour the town when the mafia in the minority? Unless, of course, you are scum and you knew at that point there were more than two clan of scum. Hmmm..... One question for you Kurt - why is it necessary for you to make such a vociferous defense of another player in this game (at this stage)? She's a smart girl, she can take care of herself - do you have vested interest that needs protecting? Gee, I don’t know… maybe I knew because there were three families mentioned in the Night 1 write-up! *gasp* 1. “''We know you visited the Gambinos last night, Vincent. You thought you'd try to intimidate them. Push your weight around. Well, it didn't work on them and it sure as hell won't work on us... because you're there and I'm right here.'' 2. The Lucheese Family would crush them all. 3. Vincent ''Chin'' Giagante; Blade; Roleblocker of the Genovese Family. Because Blade was a roleblocker, that confirms that each family is 3, because there also need to be a Hitman/Godfather. My guess, which has been confirmed through L1's modnote, is that there started off with 9 scum, and 5 town... see it now? And you know why I'm defending Arcadia? Because I'm not going to follow blind logic and lynch someone because of it. You can call my reasoning fallacious, but you...and Knuckles...have done nothing but dismiss my arguments after I addressed yours. You two of you are looking really, really fishy right now in your blind voting, and arguments that amount to "I'm right, look at me!" This is a team game, and I'm not going to help the town shoot itself in the foot. |
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Post by Kurt on Dec 14, 2011 17:44:38 GMT -4
i think his interest is not to get a fellow scum family member lynched. nobody has bothered to think outside the box on any of this. read my posts and its obvious how rite i am. was funny is that she is 1 vote away from a lynch. had this been a different game of mafia, she would have been done already. u really wanna let a scum go free? Oh please. Nobody has bothered to think outside the box? More like no one is thinking for themselves. You're not right Knuckles...I debunked several of your theories that you're clinging to right now. Your response? "Read my posts, I'm right!" Yeah, no. You and Julius are just looking more suspicious by the minute. Why are you two so intent to lead a lynch off arguments that don't make any sense? |
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Post by Reaver on Dec 14, 2011 18:06:31 GMT -4
youve actually done nothing. i actions have PROVED she is scum yet u still refuse to believe it. that to me makes u scum as well. if im SO WRONG....y dont u finish her off? if for any reason im wrong then i will GLADLY push a vote on myself. prove me wrong by lynching her.
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Post by Jules on Dec 14, 2011 18:15:19 GMT -4
Gee, I don’t know… maybe I knew because there were three families mentioned in the Night 1 write-up! *gasp* 1. “''We know you visited the Gambinos last night, Vincent. You thought you'd try to intimidate them. Push your weight around. Well, it didn't work on them and it sure as hell won't work on us... because you're there and I'm right here.'' 2. The Lucheese Family would crush them all. 3. Vincent ''Chin'' Giagante; Blade; Roleblocker of the Genovese Family. Because Blade was a roleblocker, that confirms that each family is 3, because there also need to be a Hitman/Godfather. My guess, which has been confirmed through L1's modnote, is that there started off with 9 scum, and 5 town... see it now? And you know why I'm defending Arcadia? Because I'm not going to follow blind logic and lynch someone because of it. You can call my reasoning fallacious, but you...and Knuckles...have done nothing but dismiss my arguments after I addressed yours. You two of you are looking really, really fishy right now in your blind voting, and arguments that amount to "I'm right, look at me!" This is a team game, and I'm not going to help the town shoot itself in the foot. How odd that nobody mentioned this after the write-up and everyone was talking about two families. It seems everybody overlooked the reference to three families because nobody mentioned it and it was a shock to everyone when Harvey made the claim, a claim that got him lynched rightly. But now, conveniently, you knew this all along? Noble your ad hominem arguments prove nothing, they only attempt to deflect the focus away from you, Arcadia and your little scum family. I'm only concerned with facts, and the facts are Arcadia's behavior has been scummy all along, so she needs to go. It's just a shame there is so much poison still in this game that we upstanding townsfolk cannot expel it. |
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Post by Arcadia on Dec 14, 2011 18:16:21 GMT -4
You haven't proven anything Knuckles. And now you switch tactics again by challenging Noble, like it's a dare.
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Post by Arcadia on Dec 14, 2011 18:20:47 GMT -4
Kurt already said he was blocked by Branden on Day 1. Why are you ignoring everything?
Vote: Farquar
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Post by Arcadia on Dec 14, 2011 18:21:51 GMT -4
EWOP: Sorry, I spelled your name wrong. Didn't mean to.
Vote: Farquhar
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Post by Jules on Dec 14, 2011 18:33:25 GMT -4
Of course, that was convenient. I guess that will remain one of those undiscoverable what ifs.
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Post by Kurt on Dec 14, 2011 19:04:32 GMT -4
youve actually done nothing. i actions have PROVED she is scum yet u still refuse to believe it. that to me makes u scum as well. if im SO WRONG....y dont u finish her off? if for any reason im wrong then i will GLADLY push a vote on myself. prove me wrong by lynching her. You haven't proven anything Knuckles. You made subjective statements that haven't held any water through deductive reasoning. You literally have refuted nothing I stated, and continue to reiterate the exact same argument of "I'm right." All I'm asking you to do is back up your statements. You haven't. Gee, I don’t know… maybe I knew because there were three families mentioned in the Night 1 write-up! *gasp* 1. “''We know you visited the Gambinos last night, Vincent. You thought you'd try to intimidate them. Push your weight around. Well, it didn't work on them and it sure as hell won't work on us... because you're there and I'm right here.'' 2. The Lucheese Family would crush them all. 3. Vincent ''Chin'' Giagante; Blade; Roleblocker of the Genovese Family. Because Blade was a roleblocker, that confirms that each family is 3, because there also need to be a Hitman/Godfather. My guess, which has been confirmed through L1's modnote, is that there started off with 9 scum, and 5 town... see it now? And you know why I'm defending Arcadia? Because I'm not going to follow blind logic and lynch someone because of it. You can call my reasoning fallacious, but you...and Knuckles...have done nothing but dismiss my arguments after I addressed yours. You two of you are looking really, really fishy right now in your blind voting, and arguments that amount to "I'm right, look at me!" This is a team game, and I'm not going to help the town shoot itself in the foot. How odd that nobody mentioned this after the write-up and everyone was talking about two families. It seems everybody overlooked the reference to three families because nobody mentioned it and it was a shock to everyone when Harvey made the claim, a claim that got him lynched rightly. But now, conveniently, you knew this all along? Noble your ad hominem arguments prove nothing, they only attempt to deflect the focus away from you, Arcadia and your little scum family. I'm only concerned with facts, and the facts are Arcadia's behavior has been scummy all along, so she needs to go. It's just a shame there is so much poison still in this game that we upstanding townsfolk cannot expel it. Why are you choosing to ignore facts then? I already stated I was roleblocked/silence by Harvey for Day 2. I said it before any of this arguing started. But hey, let me go a step further. Let's assume Harvey used his ability Night 1 (because why wouldn't he?). Lets list all the players, in order, who posted on Day 2. Knuckles Kaji Rebel Arcadia James JC Phil Pence CJ Havok JF That leaves Harvey (who deleted a lot of his posts) and me. I was the only person that didn't post Day 2. I wasn't modkilled, prodded, or anything of the sort. I was silenced. You two keep ignoring information and regurgitating the same statements. Go ahead. |
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Post by Kurt on Dec 14, 2011 19:12:28 GMT -4
And for the record, I don't believe I've made attacks on anyone's character, besides figuratively calling them blind. I'm just frustrated that the town is listening to logic that doesn't make any sense, not backing up those statements, and then ignoring common sense that's laid down right in front of them.
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Post by Jules on Dec 14, 2011 19:27:06 GMT -4
youve actually done nothing. i actions have PROVED she is scum yet u still refuse to believe it. that to me makes u scum as well. if im SO WRONG....y dont u finish her off? if for any reason im wrong then i will GLADLY push a vote on myself. prove me wrong by lynching her. You haven't proven anything Knuckles. You made subjective statements that haven't held any water through deductive reasoning. You literally have refuted nothing I stated, and continue to reiterate the exact same argument of "I'm right." All I'm asking you to do is back up your statements. You haven't. How odd that nobody mentioned this after the write-up and everyone was talking about two families. It seems everybody overlooked the reference to three families because nobody mentioned it and it was a shock to everyone when Harvey made the claim, a claim that got him lynched rightly. But now, conveniently, you knew this all along? Noble your ad hominem arguments prove nothing, they only attempt to deflect the focus away from you, Arcadia and your little scum family. I'm only concerned with facts, and the facts are Arcadia's behavior has been scummy all along, so she needs to go. It's just a shame there is so much poison still in this game that we upstanding townsfolk cannot expel it. Why are you choosing to ignore facts then? I already stated I was roleblocked/silence by Harvey for Day 2. I said it before any of this arguing started. But hey, let me go a step further. Let's assume Harvey used his ability Night 1 (because why wouldn't he?). Lets list all the players, in order, who posted on Day 2. Knuckles Kaji Rebel Arcadia James JC Phil Pence CJ Havok JF That leaves Harvey (who deleted a lot of his posts) and me. I was the only person that didn't post Day 2. I wasn't modkilled, prodded, or anything of the sort. I was silenced. You two keep ignoring information and regurgitating the same statements. Go ahead.[/quote] I'm not sure what you are trying to prove Noble - that you were silenced? I accept that, I can read your post about that for myself. I simply overlooked it - an error on my part. Of course you can claim that you knew all but couldn't say anything, and how could anybody disprove that? It is probably even nonsensical to even ask if you knew that, since it could never be verified either way. Anyway, this is all a bit of a digression, which is probably your aim: take the focus from the issue at hand (Arcadia's guilt) and try and instigate some pointless debate about whether or not you knew there were three mafia families all along. All of this hurts the reasoning against Arcadia no less, and you haven't provided any deductive reasoning to the contrary, just a bunch of objections such 'its an old lead, why pursue it', 'you're acting very shifty', 'you're using blind logic' (please give me an example). I will give you a demonstration, however, of why the lynching argument is rationally plausible (if not deductively sound, considering such proofs are unlikely in this game without the kind of brain fart issued by Harvey). Arcadia made her post about any carrying out any sort of lynching before Harvey's fatal slip about three families. NOBODY had even thrown out as the thinnest of suppositions the possibility of three families (it's shame you were absent because you could have enlightened us all and avoided all of this discussion). Anyway, her reasoning was that we know there are more mafia than normal (i.e. under the belief at the time of two families), which means two families being double one, it is twice as likely we would lynch a scum. She makes no reasoning about it being statistical more probable that a mafioso would be lynched than a town (e.g. 62% chance of Mafia, 38% chance of town), but just a greater probability of hitting a mafia (not sure the %, but its not in favour of town like the above stat is because the assumption is two families of three). She made no indication of any knowledge of there being three families, in fact she displayed shock after Harvey came out with it, therefore her 'statistical reasoning' was not based on the notion that the game had three families, but based on the notion that there was more mafia than usual. This difference is huge statistically, and she must have meant the former (given that she at no point hinted at three families and to displayed shock when this was revealed - probably a rouse and further adds to the evidence because it was a falsehood), therefore you claim that her reasoning was sound is a total fallacy. There is no blind logic here, just cold hard facts and rational extrapolation. Arcadia is scum, and from your defense of her I infer you are too, and I would bet my dearest townie existence on that. |
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Post by Nick Watson on Dec 14, 2011 20:09:24 GMT -4
Vote: Arcadia
I'm going with my gut, after reading over several things, and watching closely...I have decided to vote with my gut. Last night the town lost someone big and now...well now, I'm going to put my vote toward Arcadia as I already had my suspicions earlier.
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Post by Kurt on Dec 14, 2011 20:33:01 GMT -4
You haven't proven anything Knuckles. You made subjective statements that haven't held any water through deductive reasoning. You literally have refuted nothing I stated, and continue to reiterate the exact same argument of "I'm right." All I'm asking you to do is back up your statements. You haven't. How odd that nobody mentioned this after the write-up and everyone was talking about two families. It seems everybody overlooked the reference to three families because nobody mentioned it and it was a shock to everyone when Harvey made the claim, a claim that got him lynched rightly. But now, conveniently, you knew this all along? Noble your ad hominem arguments prove nothing, they only attempt to deflect the focus away from you, Arcadia and your little scum family. I'm only concerned with facts, and the facts are Arcadia's behavior has been scummy all along, so she needs to go. It's just a shame there is so much poison still in this game that we upstanding townsfolk cannot expel it. Why are you choosing to ignore facts then? I already stated I was roleblocked/silence by Harvey for Day 2. I said it before any of this arguing started. But hey, let me go a step further. Let's assume Harvey used his ability Night 1 (because why wouldn't he?). Lets list all the players, in order, who posted on Day 2. Knuckles Kaji Rebel Arcadia James JC Phil Pence CJ Havok JF That leaves Harvey (who deleted a lot of his posts) and me. I was the only person that didn't post Day 2. I wasn't modkilled, prodded, or anything of the sort. I was silenced. You two keep ignoring information and regurgitating the same statements. Go ahead. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove Noble - that you were silenced? I accept that, I can read your post about that for myself. I simply overlooked it - an error on my part. Of course you can claim that you knew all but couldn't say anything, and how could anybody disprove that? It is probably even nonsensical to even ask if you knew that, since it could never be verified either way. Anyway, this is all a bit of a digression, which is probably your aim: take the focus from the issue at hand (Arcadia's guilt) and try and instigate some pointless debate about whether or not you knew there were three mafia families all along. All of this hurts the reasoning against Arcadia no less, and you haven't provided any deductive reasoning to the contrary, just a bunch of objections such 'its an old lead, why pursue it', 'you're acting very shifty', 'you're using blind logic' (please give me an example). I will give you a demonstration, however, of why the lynching argument is rationally plausible (if not deductively sound, considering such proofs are unlikely in this game without the kind of brain fart issued by Harvey). Arcadia made her post about any carrying out any sort of lynching before Harvey's fatal slip about three families. NOBODY had even thrown out as the thinnest of suppositions the possibility of three families (it's shame you were absent because you could have enlightened us all and avoided all of this discussion). Anyway, her reasoning was that we know there are more mafia than normal (i.e. under the belief at the time of two families), which means two families being double one, it is twice as likely we would lynch a scum. She makes no reasoning about it being statistical more probable that a mafioso would be lynched than a town (e.g. 62% chance of Mafia, 38% chance of town), but just a greater probability of hitting a mafia (not sure the %, but its not in favour of town like the above stat is because the assumption is two families of three). She made no indication of any knowledge of there being three families, in fact she displayed shock after Harvey came out with it, therefore her 'statistical reasoning' was not based on the notion that the game had three families, but based on the notion that there was more mafia than usual. This difference is huge statistically, and she must have meant the former (given that she at no point hinted at three families and to displayed shock when this was revealed - probably a rouse and further adds to the evidence because it was a falsehood), therefore you claim that her reasoning was sound is a total fallacy. There is no blind logic here, just cold hard facts and rational extrapolation. Arcadia is scum, and from your defense of her I infer you are too, and I would bet my dearest townie existence on that.[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There's only one argument here, so I'm going to refute that one, even though it's useless at this point. Don't confuse what she said with what I said....SHE said it was more likely that we would lynch a scum than a normal game. I said it was more likely that with a blind vote, we would lynch a mafia over a townie. You're putting my words into her mouth, and that's not at all what she said. I just agreed with the part that we were more likely to lynch a scum than normal, and then added in my point about the 9-5 split. I guess we'll see what happens now though. |
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Post by Arcadia on Dec 14, 2011 20:38:24 GMT -4
well, this was fun while it lasted
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Post by Jules on Dec 14, 2011 20:47:11 GMT -4
Why are you choosing to ignore facts then? I already stated I was roleblocked/silence by Harvey for Day 2. I said it before any of this arguing started. But hey, let me go a step further. Let's assume Harvey used his ability Night 1 (because why wouldn't he?). Lets list all the players, in order, who posted on Day 2. Knuckles Kaji Rebel Arcadia James JC Phil Pence CJ Havok JF That leaves Harvey (who deleted a lot of his posts) and me. I was the only person that didn't post Day 2. I wasn't modkilled, prodded, or anything of the sort. I was silenced. You two keep ignoring information and regurgitating the same statements. Go ahead. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove Noble - that you were silenced? I accept that, I can read your post about that for myself. I simply overlooked it - an error on my part. Of course you can claim that you knew all but couldn't say anything, and how could anybody disprove that? It is probably even nonsensical to even ask if you knew that, since it could never be verified either way. Anyway, this is all a bit of a digression, which is probably your aim: take the focus from the issue at hand (Arcadia's guilt) and try and instigate some pointless debate about whether or not you knew there were three mafia families all along. All of this hurts the reasoning against Arcadia no less, and you haven't provided any deductive reasoning to the contrary, just a bunch of objections such 'its an old lead, why pursue it', 'you're acting very shifty', 'you're using blind logic' (please give me an example). I will give you a demonstration, however, of why the lynching argument is rationally plausible (if not deductively sound, considering such proofs are unlikely in this game without the kind of brain fart issued by Harvey). Arcadia made her post about any carrying out any sort of lynching before Harvey's fatal slip about three families. NOBODY had even thrown out as the thinnest of suppositions the possibility of three families (it's shame you were absent because you could have enlightened us all and avoided all of this discussion). Anyway, her reasoning was that we know there are more mafia than normal (i.e. under the belief at the time of two families), which means two families being double one, it is twice as likely we would lynch a scum. She makes no reasoning about it being statistical more probable that a mafioso would be lynched than a town (e.g. 62% chance of Mafia, 38% chance of town), but just a greater probability of hitting a mafia (not sure the %, but its not in favour of town like the above stat is because the assumption is two families of three). She made no indication of any knowledge of there being three families, in fact she displayed shock after Harvey came out with it, therefore her 'statistical reasoning' was not based on the notion that the game had three families, but based on the notion that there was more mafia than usual. This difference is huge statistically, and she must have meant the former (given that she at no point hinted at three families and to displayed shock when this was revealed - probably a rouse and further adds to the evidence because it was a falsehood), therefore you claim that her reasoning was sound is a total fallacy. There is no blind logic here, just cold hard facts and rational extrapolation. Arcadia is scum, and from your defense of her I infer you are too, and I would bet my dearest townie existence on that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There's only one argument here, so I'm going to refute that one, even though it's useless at this point. Don't confuse what she said with what I said....SHE said it was more likely that we would lynch a scum than a normal game. I said it was more likely that with a blind vote, we would lynch a mafia over a townie. You're putting my words into her mouth, and that's not at all what she said. I just agreed with the part that we were more likely to lynch a scum than normal, and then added in my point about the 9-5 split. I guess we'll see what happens now though.[/quote] Nice ignoratio elenchi you've inserted there Kurt. My whole argument is about what ARCADIA SAID AND DID, not about you, since Arcadia is the person I want lynched. I'm not arguing against any reasoning you put forward NOW (given we now have the facts about the number of families) to try and justify what Arcadia said THEN (when the consensus was ignorance about the true number of mafia). I'm concerned only with the reasoning Arcadia used THEN to justify what she said/proposed THEN. Reasoning which was either a) based on fallacy, or b) betrayed the fact Arcadia knew more than the rest of us. My argument with you, Kurt, is simply that your attempts to refute this argument either miss the point or are irrelevant, since what you knew, because you were silenced, has no bearing on Arcadia's reasoning (which was supposed to based on the ignorance we assumed everyone had at the time). Anyway, I agree with you on one thing, it has become pointless because I don't think this lynch is going to happen. I will henceforth pass this day over in silence... |
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Post by Jules on Dec 14, 2011 20:49:02 GMT -4
EBWOP You can ignore my last post. I have this terrible habit of not checking every post in the thread. I saw Noble's, dived in and after posting saw Pence's vote. Now I know what you mean by it being pointless.  |
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Post by Level-Two on Dec 14, 2011 20:58:28 GMT -4
False alarm.
Votes to lynch:
farq, knucks, pence, james, kaji
It takes 6 votes to lynch.
Day continues, less then an hour.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Dec 14, 2011 22:11:15 GMT -4
Wait, what? Your post where Havok was night killed says it takes five to lynch. What changed?
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Post by Arcadia on Dec 14, 2011 23:29:27 GMT -4
....I'm still alive? huh. Interesting plot development.
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Post by Kurt on Dec 14, 2011 23:31:09 GMT -4
I guess we just have to wait for L1 on this one, ha.
It looks like all the votes are there, so no one appears to be voteless.
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Post by Level-Two on Dec 15, 2011 0:21:17 GMT -4
Wait, what? Your post where Havok was night killed says it takes five to lynch. What changed? You're correct, sorry sir! An oversight on my behalf. The lynch has occurred. Night has fallen. Write up coming soon! |
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Post by Level-Two on Dec 15, 2011 22:56:48 GMT -4
We find ourselves in a large warehouse. John ''The Teflon Don'' Gotti smokes a cigar as his two main men Peter ''One Eye'' Gotti and Sammy ''The Bull'' Gravano stand to his left and right weilding pistols. John Gotti grins as he puffs out a ball of smoke.
''Where the hell is the merchandise?'' John Gotti asks. Seconds later, three bodies are tossed out infront of him by the hands of Gambino street thugs. The three men are mid level soldiers for the Genovese Family. Their hands are tied behind their backs and duct tape is taped around their mouths. Each one of them are forced to their knees as John Gotti begins to pace back and forth infront of them.
''You know, it's a shame we didn't meet sooner. If we did, I assure you this all could have been avoided! I mean each and everyone of you could have found yourself with a real family. A well oiled death machine that simply can't be stopped. But as my father used say, not all of us can be winners... and you my freinds will find this out the hard way...'' he says.
John Gotti stops and pauses; he looks back at Peter Gotti and Sammy Gravano, laughing hysterically as the three Genovese thugs prepare for their execution in silence.
''You will find out the hard way, as long as you continue to be stubborn men and refuse to help the Gambinos out...'' John Gotti says as he puts out his cigar on the forehead of one of the men, who lets out a painful groan through his duct taped mouth.
''How do you help us out you ask?'' John ''The Teflon Don'' Gotti mocked. ''Well, you turn you back on your family and you become honourary members of the Gambino Crime Syndicate...''
John Gotti looks at the three men who don't object. He smiles as he nods his head up and down.
''Perfect. As I understand it, you three were planning a bank robbery alongside your Don; Giuseppe Morello...'' John Gotti starts. ''Your initation is simple; you follow through with the bank robbery and bring the funds to me but most importantly...'' John Gotti says with a pause...
''You make sure Giuseppe Morello does not make it out that bank alive!''
Meanwhile...
Donnie Brasco is aruging with FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover.
''You can't do this!'' Donne Brasco demands. ''This shit reeks as a set up, you're going to get our units killed!''
J. Edgar Hoover sighs. ''You're out of your goddamned mind, Brasco. The Mafia maybe smart and well planned but they aren't this smart. This is the real deal. We have a bullet proof lead!''
''It's a set up, I'm telling you!'' Donnie Brasco argues.
''Well, I'm sorry but you have little say around here anymore. It was your inactions that had Project Zero ultimately assassinated.'' J. Edgar Hoover says sharply.
Donnie Brasco stood up in a roar.
''He was in your custody when it happened!'' Donnie Brasco said... before the door swung open seconds later as the cheif of police walked in.
''Sir, our targets are at the bank!''
''Excuse me...'' J. Edgar Hoover said as he stood up and shoved his way past Donnie Brasco. ''We have some criminals to bust...''
AT THE BANK
Guiseppe ''Peter The Clutch Hand'' Morello holds a gun to the bank mangers head as his foot soliders raid the safe making out with millions of dollars.
''Hurry the fuck up!'' Guiseppe Morello urged his men as they hustled themselves towards him. Guiseppe Morello nails the bank manager across the face with the butt of the gun rendering him unconcious. ''Let's go!''
Guiseppe Morello turns his back on his foot soliders and heads for the door but realizes they didn't follow. The three foot soliders looked at each-other and shook their heads side to side... they couldn't do it. They couldn't take out their don. ''What the fuck are you guys doing? Let's go!'' Guiseppe Morello once again urged on.
The three foot soldiers pointed to the objects wrapped around their ankles; bombs. Guiseppe Morello looked at his men wild eyed as he immediately turns and runs but trips over his own feet. He scrambles to his knees and reaches for the door and realizes the cops have already been tipped off.
''Who the fuck put you up to this!?'' Guiseppe Morello yells back to his soliders.
''The Gambino Familly'' one of the soliders speak up. ''They kidnapped us, strapped us with these bombs... they wanted us to kill you but we can't do it, boss...''
''I appreciate your loyalty...'' Guiseppe Morello says. ''I guess this is where it all ends one way or the other, huh?
''Go'' another solider urges. ''We're no fools. The Gambinos are planning to kill us three all along...''
''No!'' Guiseppe Morello shouts defiantly. ''I'm not letting those bastards take me alive. If the Genovese Family is going to go down... we will go down together...''
Giuseppe Morello grabs a machine gun as he marches over to his men with bombs strapped to his ankle. His three soldiers all reach into their holsters and pull out their hand guns as they bide their time for an ambush... after hours of failed negoiations the S.W.A.T team makes their way into the bank to take out the armed mafia gang but most of them are met with heavy gunfire inside and fall dead from their fatal wounds...
John Gotti watching the event from a hotel across the screen lights up a cigar as he admires the hetic scenery below.
''Those Genovese have more fight in them then I initially thought... but I am afraid it's still not enough.'' John Gotti pulls out a phone and presses a single button as he watches the entire bank be blown to shreds; a fireball shooting up into the sky, as police seriens roar in the distance.
''A beautiful day, isn't it?'' John Gotti says softly.
Dead day 4 (lynched): Guiseppe ''Petter the clutch hand'' Morello- Arcadia- Hitman/Don of the Genovese Family.
The night has begun. You have until 9:00 PM EST Friday to send me your night actions.
Please be aware that the MAFIA is in a KATOL phase... which stands for Kill a Townie or lose.
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Post by Level-Two on Dec 17, 2011 2:31:02 GMT -4
J. Edgar Hoover is behind a desk sitting across from the one and only, Tony Montana. Tony Montana casually sits back in his chair, sweat pouring down his face as he curses under his breath.
''I don't have time for this shit! I have places to go, people to see... women to fuck!'' Tony Montana yells out in aggrivation.
''Come on, Tony...'' J. Edgar Hoover sighs. ''I know you know more then you're letting on. You can take this guy down and save this city.''
''Do I look like a fucking super hero to you?'' Tony Montana responds with distain in his voice. ''As far as I'm concerned, you can go fuck yourself. I'm here because we cut a deal and it's going to keep me a free man. I could care less about what happens to you or any other one of these fucks. This world is a big place, Mr. Hoover... but there still isn't enough room for us all.''
''I need to know everything!'' J. Hoover pressed on.
''There's a lot of things you can call me but a snitch isn't one of them.'' Tony Montana states firmly as he leans forward. ''How about you call in those three fucks who are always sitting in on theose meetings? They know a hell lot more then I do...''
''And how do you know that?'' J. Edgar Hoover asks.
''Cause I can see it in their eyes'' Tony Montana confidently responded.
''Really?'' J. Edgar Hoover inquired. ''Then tell me what you see in mine?''
''Weakeness'' came Tony Montana's response.
HOURS LATER
We see John ''The Teflon Don'' Gotti on the phone with his hitman Peter ''One Eyed'' Gotti.
''My freind, we have a problem.'' John Gotti says as he fiddles with a snow globe. ''Sammy's trial is coming up and I know those rats in the FBI are going to do whatever it takes to ensure he doesn't beat the wrap...''
''What do you want me to do about it?'' Peter Gotti asks.
''Kill them...'' John Gotti says as he lets the snow globe fall out of his hands and break open onto the floor below. ''The Gambino Family must remain strong, we need to strike fear in the hearts of them all....'' John Gotti says as he walks over to a table with several newspaper clippings laid out in-front of him.
''So, how do you think we should take care of him boss?'' Peter Gotti once again asks, looking for orders.
''We're dealing with more then one here...'' John Gotti says, as he scans each newspaper clip. In each one of them, he spots three familar faces in the backround of the photos. ''These fuckers have been watching us every step of the way, they have the eye witness accounts to take us all down, I cannot have this.''
John Gotti ponders the thought.
''I want you to make it look like an accident. No gun. No weapons. Nothing...'' John Gotti says with a laugh. ''... but word has it, they all have a drinking problem...''
Three days later, the innocents were found dead.
Their vehicle was driven off a bridge into the freezing water below. Days later, after they removed the car from the lake they determined that no fowl play was involved; after finding an two empty six packs in the trunk of their car.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Dead night four: The Innocents- Farquhar- Town Watchers
The day has begun. The day four phase will end at 11:59 PM EST Monday
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Goodluck!
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Dec 17, 2011 8:56:27 GMT -4
Well now.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Dec 17, 2011 8:57:28 GMT -4
EBWOP
I don't see a count, but by my count, there are seven of us left, so that means 4 to lynch, yes?
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Post by Reaver on Dec 17, 2011 15:50:14 GMT -4
holy fucking ass crackers......
well that totally blows. let me get my shit situated and then ill comment.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Dec 17, 2011 22:23:17 GMT -4
Well apparently Knuckles fell asleep trying to get his shit situated, so I'll start.
Vote: Noble
Why? Quite simple. He spent a lot of time and energy defending Arcadia, who flipped scum. Pretty cut and dry as far as I can tell.
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jc
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Post by jc on Dec 17, 2011 22:51:57 GMT -4
Got a new job and haven't been around to post, sorry about that. Anyway, I want to go back and look through all the dead, because Arcadia was the Don/hitman of the Genovese family. Branden mentioned three families and three mafia per team, which has kind of been proven already. Before I go voting for Noble because he was protecting Arcadia I want to make sure there is a chance they were mafia together.
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