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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 19, 2012 0:25:22 GMT -4
Maybe they tried to kill the cop and somehow that was stopped somehow.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 19, 2012 0:27:25 GMT -4
Also it'd probably just be helpful to see what Marvin's previous results were and indeed if anything was discovered last night.
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Post by jc on Jan 19, 2012 0:27:49 GMT -4
Thing is, noble is basing his suspicion of aspen on him blocking her nigh phase before last. But she want the gf so he didn't stop the kill. Airtime else may have. Interested in whether tmarv has anything for us. He already outed hiss role, so he should have info to clear peopled so we can nrrowe down suspects.
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Post by Kurt on Jan 19, 2012 0:31:07 GMT -4
I think we'll have a little better vantage point when Tmarv comes in. He did serve us Rebel on a silver platter, so I have no doubt he's a town player.
Not making a kill doesn't make sense to me, since with Tmarv being able to investigate, and me interfering with a possible kill, we can slim down the list with every possible day. It's a risky strategy this late in the game.
Oh, and I need to amend an earlier statement of mine. I thought the Day 1 write-up had 3 mafia names in it, when it really only had 2. That does leave the possibility of 1 or 2 more mafia, although I do believe there's only 1 left.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 0:33:23 GMT -4
As for my information, here's what I got from my last two nights..... I am not Crazy I was (most likely) roleblocked I can only assume thats night 1 and night 2, and then night 3 he looked at Rebel (I'd assume since he came out and said Rebel was 100%) scum. And yes, I realize it's not fool proof. There was no kill night 3, and if TMarv would have investigated, he would have got a innocent on the Godfather, wouldn't he have? |
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Post by Kurt on Jan 19, 2012 0:34:37 GMT -4
Thing is, noble is basing his suspicion of aspen on him blocking her nigh phase before last. But she want the gf so he didn't stop the kill. Airtime else may have. Interested in whether tmarv has anything for us. He already outed hiss role, so he should have info to clear peopled so we can nrrowe down suspects. Read my original post this day phase. I used my night skill on her a second night in a row to see if a kill would be blocked. If she did get handed the GF role after Rebel's death, it would be blocked. Of the posted players so far (nearly everyone), no one has mentioned anything odd that might have thrown a wrench into things. Just playing a waiting game. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 0:34:48 GMT -4
EBWOP
Nevermind, there was a kill night 3. Though still, wouldn't the investigation read innocent on the Godfather?
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Post by Kurt on Jan 19, 2012 0:37:58 GMT -4
EBWOP Nevermind, there was a kill night 3. Though still, wouldn't the investigation read innocent on the Godfather? The night 3 kill was Jimmy's modkill. That's why I thought Aspen was the original GF, because there was no mafia nightkill when I blocked her. And the mod may have chosen not to make the Godfather investigation-proof. Up to Kaji I suppose. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 0:38:14 GMT -4
EBWOP AGAIN
Okay, I missed the mod note at the bottom of that night result, and the write up made it seem like it was scum that did it. My bad, carry on!
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 19, 2012 0:53:08 GMT -4
Noble is town 100% (sorry curt, something fishy stood out somehow) By the way, I just have to say about Rebel.... BOOYAH BABY! Phil, I'm listening even if no one else is. About the Rebel find. I would have assumed I would have got a town read on the godfather(but that's an optional rule so it may be different) The fact that Rebel was the gf kinda suprised me. The formula to winning is easy. Dr. protects me....I eventually find scum  Kidding actually. But I've got it narrowed down to CJ and Aspen i think. So I say we lynch one and I'll find out the other. |
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 19, 2012 3:45:11 GMT -4
Did you turn anything up night 1/night 2, even in terms of finding town?
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Post by Jules on Jan 19, 2012 6:33:00 GMT -4
Regarding the double voter, I've read this is usually a town role. Does that role appear as mafia in APW games?
In the event that anyone thinks this is suspicious, I know who the double voter is. I am not going to name that person yet. I need to be sure about whether this person needs protection or not, but I will name this person is necessary during this day phase. My suspicion is that this person is scum because this person has not answered the call to name themselves. Would this be correct, or wide of the mark?
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 19, 2012 9:33:49 GMT -4
Did you turn anything up night 1/night 2, even in terms of finding town? Already pretty much said this. Night One found out I wasn't insane. Night Two, my results were "inconclusive" cause either I was roleblocked or that's what happens when you investigate a guy who's about to die....aka JamesV. Night three...Rebel scum Night four Noble town |
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 19, 2012 9:37:37 GMT -4
Regarding the double voter, I've read this is usually a town role. Does that role appear as mafia in APW games? In the event that anyone thinks this is suspicious, I know who the double voter is. I am not going to name that person yet. I need to be sure about whether this person needs protection or not, but I will name this person is necessary during this day phase. My suspicion is that this person is scum because this person has not answered the call to name themselves. Would this be correct, or wide of the mark? I've seen games where the DV is scum(I've run games where the secret voter is scum) I'm pretty sure I know who it is too just from reading, but my guess is only fair if it's a DV. Are we convinced about that or is there still a possibility of a Secret Voter? |
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Post by jc on Jan 19, 2012 9:42:25 GMT -4
T-Marv - Why do you say you have it down to Aspen and CJ when you have only investigated Noble, Rebel, and yourself? Jules - There's no telling whether it would be a scum or town role, but that person cannot reveal themselves since it is against the rules to role claim. If that person was to come out and say that they are the double/secret voter they would be modkilled.
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Post by Kurt on Jan 19, 2012 9:47:56 GMT -4
Noble is town 100% (sorry curt, something fishy stood out somehow) By the way, I just have to say about Rebel.... BOOYAH BABY! Phil, I'm listening even if no one else is. About the Rebel find. I would have assumed I would have got a town read on the godfather(but that's an optional rule so it may be different) The fact that Rebel was the gf kinda suprised me. The formula to winning is easy. Dr. protects me....I eventually find scum Kidding actually. But I've got it narrowed down to CJ and Aspen i think. So I say we lynch one and I'll find out the other. Ha, don't worry, I had my suspicions about you being the GF earlier, but resolved them after one of the earlier night phases. Guess we're even then, ha. And Julius, I'm very curious how you could name the person. While it's true that they can't outright say "I'm the doublevoter," there's ways they can get around it...like simply yelling us why they voted the way they did. No claim, simply spreading information like Tmarv and I have done. |
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 19, 2012 11:07:03 GMT -4
T-Marv - Why do you say you have it down to Aspen and CJ when you have only investigated Noble, Rebel, and yourself? Based on gameplay, and that's really it. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 11:34:52 GMT -4
But I've got it narrowed down to CJ and Aspen i think. So I say we lynch one and I'll find out the other. Well, I can assure you that I am town 100%. I don't know how much I can give away to assure you of that, but I will say that I have no night actions, and that what I do have is town. |
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Post by jc on Jan 19, 2012 12:16:11 GMT -4
With you clearing Noble, the only people I do not know about are Vixen and Aspen, though still weary of Blade.
If you say it is between Aspen and CJ then I can tell you that my vote would go to Aspen.
vote: Aspen
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Post by jc on Jan 19, 2012 12:17:06 GMT -4
Meant to say I can verify that the vote should go on Aspen.
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Post by Jules on Jan 19, 2012 12:48:14 GMT -4
Re: Double-voter. Thanks for clarification. And Julius, I'm very curious how you could name the person. While it's true that they can't outright say "I'm the doublevoter," there's ways they can get around it...like simply yelling us why they voted the way they did. No claim, simply spreading information like Tmarv and I have done. I don't quite follow you here Kurt. Why could I not name the person IF I thought they were scum and had some pretty reliable evidence to substantiate the claim? In light of such a circumstance, what would anything they said 'role-claiming' or otherwise have to do with it? Anyway, I think by the time we get to the next day phase it should be pretty evident to anyone with keen eyes who this person is and whether they are town or scum. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 13:03:26 GMT -4
Re: Double-voter. Thanks for clarification. I don't quite follow you here Kurt. Why could I not name the person IF I thought they were scum and had some pretty reliable evidence to substantiate the claim? In light of such a circumstance, what would anything they said 'role-claiming' or otherwise have to do with it? Anyway, I think by the time we get to the next day phase it should be pretty evident to anyone with keen eyes who this person is and whether they are town or scum. The double voter is town, 100%. |
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Post by Kurt on Jan 19, 2012 13:25:06 GMT -4
Julius, I'm not saying that you can't claim who the person is. You absolutely can. I'm saying that said person can't outright say "I'm the doublevoter."
If you name them, and they say "Well, I used my first vote on Alex C. because...." That's not roleclaiming. They're simply assuming the position that's been laid out.
I'm still interested in their name Julius. This hypothetical talk is throwing me off. You don't need to worry about them being targeted if they're town because if there's 1 scum left, they're already heavily outnumbered, so one more vote won't play too heavily into the scheme of things. I can only assume Tmarv or I are more blatant targets anyway.
And CJ...how do we know that for sure?
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Post by jc on Jan 19, 2012 13:31:55 GMT -4
I'm assuming he knows who the double voter is, because he is the double voter. If that's the case, then I can verify that the double voter is 100% town because CJ is 100% town.
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Post by Blade on Jan 19, 2012 14:31:04 GMT -4
I am going to come back round to this VOTE: RebelHe is 100% Mafia... a little birdy told me last night. T-marv said a little Birdy told him, he has claimed cop so I am guessing his role told him that.. However... J-Reb was the GF and would/should have shown up innocent on investigation. My gut is telling me that Marv has thrown him under the bus, because the previous day we were a vote or two off lynching Rebel and it didnt come around, the next day we would have been all over him anyway. I am uber suspicious of T marv still, and to think about it, he would *know* who is town. The only thing that is not selling me 100% on it is the fact that no one else has claimed cop. However, with the Tracker, watcher, vengeful townie dead CJ claiming double voter, Kurt claiming RBer 2 vanilla's 3/4 scum (2 dead) There is a possibility that there isn't a cop on the game. Long shot, but thats my trail of thought for today |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 14:43:56 GMT -4
My gut is telling me that Marv has thrown him under the bus, because the previous day we were a vote or two off lynching Rebel and it didnt come around, the next day we would have been all over him anyway. The previous day we were 5 votes off of lynching Rebel. The only ones that voted for Rebel that day, were you and me. Vote Count: Johnny Rebel: 2 Votes ( 5 More to Lynch) That was 4 hours before the end of the day, and no one voted between then and the write up/deadline. So while what you said might hold water if it actually happened, we were far off from a Rebel lynch considering we started on it late in that day because we had nothing else. |
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Post by jc on Jan 19, 2012 14:45:33 GMT -4
2 VANILLA'S?
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 14:47:21 GMT -4
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Has anyone actually investigated/looked at Blade at night? Something about that last post is sending flares up for me right now.
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Post by Blade on Jan 19, 2012 15:02:38 GMT -4
Yes Helmsley + 1 that I know of. There may be more |
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Post by Blade on Jan 19, 2012 15:03:32 GMT -4
EBWOP Has anyone actually investigated/looked at Blade at night? Something about that last post is sending flares up for me right now. I wish someone had, because this role is killing me, even JC is still wary of me. I'm not going down this route again, and to be honest, would rather get lynched just to prove it |
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Kidding actually. But I've got it narrowed down to CJ and Aspen i think. So I say we lynch one and I'll find out the other. 
