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Post by Kurt on Jan 19, 2012 15:07:54 GMT -4
While we can afford a mislynch, I don't think it's a smart idea to kill off an assumed town player to check them, especially since we're already narrowing down the list of suspects through other means.
Let's wait for two things before making a group decision:
- Julius to unveil a name (because something isn't sitting right with me about the fact that Rebel claimed the secret vote and NO ONE has challenged it).
- Aspen to...actually speak. She has the right to defend herself, so let's see if she will.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 15:09:59 GMT -4
Oh, I don't blame you and I'm not trying to bring it up to be an ass. Just...we don't have much to go on.
The only avenues we have are Aspen because of Noble blocking her two nights in a row with no night kill, or TMarv for the guilty read on the Godfather.
The only reason why I brought you back around was because of you saying that we were 1 or 2 votes from lynching Rebel when we were 5.
The only other one people aren't sure on is Vixen.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 15:10:33 GMT -4
I'm assuming he knows who the double voter is, because he is the double voter. If that's the case, then I can verify that the double voter is 100% town because CJ is 100% town. |
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 19, 2012 15:16:28 GMT -4
EBWOP Has anyone actually investigated/looked at Blade at night? Something about that last post is sending flares up for me right now. I assumed that would be a waste of a night action. I'm thinking his asignment of townie was true. Here's what I know: Town: Kurt Noble Blade T-Marv Suspect: C. J. Gates Phil Atken JC Rhonda Vixen Farquhar Aspen Chaud I think I know who Atken is, and if I'm right he's town wich leaves CJ, JC, Vixen, Farquhar, and Aspen Blade - WTF do I have to do to prove myself to you? Obviously Kaji is playing wih the role that GF's dont give off a false positive. Unless you honestly believe that I am mafia and had my GF killed off and therefore gave my team a less chance to win the game? Night 1 - myself night 2 - James V, got rb'd which noble confirmed AFTER I came out with this info Night 3 - rebel Night 4 - noble What more do you want to know, seriously. YOu've been after me all game and you've been wrong all game. Do some real scum hunting and go after a real target... I've laid 5 of them out for you above. |
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Post by Kurt on Jan 19, 2012 15:26:43 GMT -4
Oh, point proven CJ. I'm wrong on Aspen being the doublevoter then. But, humor me for a second.
Why did Rebel claim to have your role (because you did vote out Alex C then with a secret vote, which he said he did)...but you voted him after without saying anything? You didn't say anything to the means of "I know that's a lie. I know you're not the secret-voter."
Why would Rebel claim a specific role that was sure to backfire?
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Post by Blade on Jan 19, 2012 15:27:55 GMT -4
Like I sad TM a hunch that I cant let go off, I *THOUGHT* Rebel had more votes on the no lynch day.
Atken/Aspen/Farquar are at the top of my list. Atken/Farquar mainly because this is the first game they have played and arent really contributing apart from activity posts (Atken more so than FQ)
Could be though that they are really just unsure as how to give any information they have without giving too much away
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 19, 2012 15:35:21 GMT -4
Oh, point proven CJ. I'm wrong on Aspen being the doublevoter then. But, humor me for a second. Why did Rebel claim to have your role (because you did vote out Alex C then with a secret vote, which he said he did)...but you voted him after without saying anything? You didn't say anything to the means of "I know that's a lie. I know you're not the secret-voter." Why would Rebel claim a specific role that was sure to backfire? I couldn't tell you why Rebel claimed it. The only thing I can think of, was because the double voter thing was out there it was something people were looking for. And since it's a typically pro-town role, he might have figured he could get away with it. Why didn't I say it was a flat out lie? Because I didn't need to. The lynch didn't seem to be stalling and I figured I'd hold off on revealing it until later when we could possibly catch another scum trying to claim it as their own role. Was it the best? No, I probably should have mentioned it after Rebel claimed it. Why did Rebel do it? Last ditch effort? |
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Post by Jules on Jan 19, 2012 19:28:24 GMT -4
The only avenues we have are Aspen because of Noble blocking her two nights in a row with no night kill, or TMarv for the guilty read on the Godfather. I'm willing to give T-Marv the benefit of the doubt atm because he did come through on the GF, but I have a nagging suspicion due to him and Rebel voting so close together for Alex. Could just be a coincidence, I guess we'll see. Aspen's sudden disappearance reeks of resignation. She is my chief suspect right now. Could be though that they are really just unsure as how to give any information they have without giving too much away I've provided the information I have when and where it has been relevant/necessary to do so. You find it if you look for it. |
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Post by Rhonda Vixen on Jan 19, 2012 22:14:48 GMT -4
I believe Rebel claim to be the Double Vote to take the blame off of Aspen and now with her been very quiet. I still standing behind my vote for her.
voted:Aspen
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Jan 19, 2012 22:35:30 GMT -4
Vote Count: Aspen Chaud: 2 Votes ( 4 more to lynch) Not Voting: - Kurt Noble
- Phil Atken
- Blade
- T-Marv
- C.J. Gates
- Farquhar
- Aspen Chaud
Deadline for Day Five is Saturday, January 21st at 8:59 PM Eastern Standard Time (Roughly 47 hours from now) |
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Post by Kurt on Jan 19, 2012 23:55:27 GMT -4
I believe Rebel claim to be the Double Vote to take the blame off of Aspen and now with her been very quiet. I still standing behind my vote for her. voted:AspenThat was my theory, but CJ debunked it. Aspen has logged onto the boards in the last 24 hours, but hasn't responded to the thread. Maybe she feels she's sunk, maybe she's busy, whatever. I think we should continue our discussions, and give her 24 hours to see if she responds to a prod. If she doesn't, she takes the lynch. She's really the only major unknown variable at the moment. |
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 20, 2012 0:08:16 GMT -4
Blade, silly man. You know this isn't my first game. Or are you saying it's my first with a low profile?
I think the fact that no-one has actually claimed double voter and whoever is the double voter has tried to avoid the issue means that this time round it's not a town role.
When Rebel claimed it, if the double voter was town I could easily see them counter-claim to fully show him to be mafia. No one did. So it would lead logically to the belief that Rebel made the claim to protect a fellow mafia team mate. So considering the options, that'd be Aspen in my opinion.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 20, 2012 0:23:02 GMT -4
Blade, silly man. You know this isn't my first game. Or are you saying it's my first with a low profile? I think the fact that no-one has actually claimed double voter and whoever is the double voter has tried to avoid the issue means that this time round it's not a town role. When Rebel claimed it, if the double voter was town I could easily see them counter-claim to fully show him to be mafia. No one did. So it would lead logically to the belief that Rebel made the claim to protect a fellow mafia team mate. So considering the options, that'd be Aspen in my opinion. It's been claimed. It's a 100% town role. |
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 20, 2012 2:48:26 GMT -4
Did I zone out?
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 20, 2012 2:50:00 GMT -4
Yes I did.
Oh if you say it's 100% town then...
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 20, 2012 3:00:36 GMT -4
Eh, looking over it.
Vote: Aspen
Farquhar's behaviour with the "knowing the double voter thing" strikes me as odd. Noble is investigated as town for the moment. Gates action as double voter are a little dicey but really I can't get around the roadblocks.
Now if Aspen is town, then I know why the night kills didn't happen, which in turn confirm that Blade and Marv are who they say they are.
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 20, 2012 9:37:04 GMT -4
Vote: AspenOH NO! I'm hopping on the bandwaggon, better lynch me.  But seriously, Aspens on again off again behavior is fishy. And since Rebel bit the bullet, it seems like she's resigned. I'm happy with an Aspen lynch even if she's town.
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Post by T-Marv on Jan 20, 2012 9:37:33 GMT -4
also... if she's not scum... my ass needs some help tonight. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 20, 2012 10:17:38 GMT -4
Eh, looking over it. Vote: Aspen Farquhar's behaviour with the "knowing the double voter thing" strikes me as odd. Noble is investigated as town for the moment. Gates action as double voter are a little dicey but really I can't get around the roadblocks. Now if Aspen is town, then I know why the night kills didn't happen, which in turn confirm that Blade and Marv are who they say they are. I'm personally going to hold onto my vote for a bit, though was curious...Are you saying that if Aspen comes up scum, then we should be worried that Marv and Blade are lying about their roles? Just kind of curious why we would have to wait until she is lynched to here the theory on why the night kills didn't happen.... |
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Post by Kurt on Jan 20, 2012 10:34:30 GMT -4
Eh, looking over it. Vote: Aspen Farquhar's behaviour with the "knowing the double voter thing" strikes me as odd. Noble is investigated as town for the moment. Gates action as double voter are a little dicey but really I can't get around the roadblocks. Now if Aspen is town, then I know why the night kills didn't happen, which in turn confirm that Blade and Marv are who they say they are. You know you just questioned the validity of the roles/alignments of like half the players in the game, right? I especially like that I'm investigated as town "for the moment." Explain your Aspen theory about the kills. We're in no hurry. |
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 20, 2012 13:37:49 GMT -4
Eh, looking over it. Vote: Aspen Farquhar's behaviour with the "knowing the double voter thing" strikes me as odd. Noble is investigated as town for the moment. Gates action as double voter are a little dicey but really I can't get around the roadblocks. Now if Aspen is town, then I know why the night kills didn't happen, which in turn confirm that Blade and Marv are who they say they are. I'm personally going to hold onto my vote for a bit, though was curious...Are you saying that if Aspen comes up scum, then we should be worried that Marv and Blade are lying about their roles? Just kind of curious why we would have to wait until she is lynched to here the theory on why the night kills didn't happen.... Oh no, there's no flipside on that one. Merely that if Aspen wasn't roleblocked, another role stopped the kills and I know what happened. If Aspen is scum, it neither implicates or indicts either of the men in question. Noble: It was an implication, just tossing out things I considered. As I said none of them are particularly strong and indeed I wasn't making a case out of any. |
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Post by Blade on Jan 20, 2012 14:03:43 GMT -4
Wouldn't that info stop us from mislynching now though?
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 20, 2012 14:10:17 GMT -4
Not really no.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jan 20, 2012 14:16:03 GMT -4
That is to say there is nothing to say that either me or Noble stopped the kill in regards to what happened and why. Noble could have stopped Aspen through roleblocking or I could have stopped kills. If I stopped kills, Blade and Marvin were the night 3 and 4 targets respectively.
Hopefully you can figure out my role at this point.
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Post by Kurt on Jan 20, 2012 15:02:08 GMT -4
That is to say there is nothing to say that either me or Noble stopped the kill in regards to what happened and why. Noble could have stopped Aspen through roleblocking or I could have stopped kills. If I stopped kills, Blade and Marvin were the night 3 and 4 targets respectively. Hopefully you can figure out my role at this point. Okay, makes sense to me. Explains a couple of your posts from the last day. We're slowly putting the pieces of the puzzle together, but without Aspen's input, we're still pretty dark on certain issues. I'm giving her a few more hours before I lay down a vote. |
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Post by Blade on Jan 20, 2012 15:39:04 GMT -4
That is to say there is nothing to say that either me or Noble stopped the kill in regards to what happened and why. Noble could have stopped Aspen through roleblocking or I could have stopped kills. If I stopped kills, Blade and Marvin were the night 3 and 4 targets respectively. Hopefully you can figure out my role at this point. Ok, I get it buggs bunny. Well, I dont see aspen showing up at all, but we have plenty of time regarding the deadline, My vote will go for her, but I will wait, I think she is at L-2 |
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Jan 20, 2012 17:06:31 GMT -4
Vote Count: Aspen Chaud: 4 Votes ( 2 more to lynch) - Rhonda Vixen
- JC
- Phil Atken
- T-Marv
Not Voting: - Kurt Noble
- Blade
- C.J. Gates
- Farquhar
- Aspen Chaud
Deadline for Day Five is Saturday, January 21st at 8:59 PM Eastern Standard Time (Roughly 29 hours from now) |
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Post by Kurt on Jan 20, 2012 23:54:10 GMT -4
Kept my word. It's been 24 hours, and nothing.
Vote: Aspen
Hopefully, this ends the game!
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jan 21, 2012 1:16:52 GMT -4
I was hoping she would say something to help figure out the whole thing, but perhaps not. Maybe it was as people said that she went dark after losing Rebel and being the last mafioso standing.
Vote: Aspen
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Jan 21, 2012 1:37:42 GMT -4
That is a lynch, ladies and gents. No more talking. I will get the write-up done sometime tomorrow, though, because I seriously think if I stay up five more minutes, my eyes are going to rebel against me.
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